How was life in Egypt and Africa in 600 AD in the Byzantine Empire?

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@Maiorianus_Sebastian
@Maiorianus_Sebastian 11 ай бұрын
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@bideni408
@bideni408 11 ай бұрын
Why i cant see your video "why the later romand wanted their empire to fall?" I saw your vid and was correct and havent any weird image or word. Now, Ytb ask me to give my ID card or credit card to sa my age. Its looks ideological thing.
@ArchBishopJunk
@ArchBishopJunk 11 ай бұрын
This is the type of video I didnt know I needed until it came
@fourshore502
@fourshore502 10 ай бұрын
this video came so hard into your eyes and ears... hnnnnghhhhh!!!!
@minoozolala
@minoozolala 10 ай бұрын
Huh?
@willymakeit5172
@willymakeit5172 10 ай бұрын
Me too, I’m almost nostalgic for it, which is strange.
@catnhat1117
@catnhat1117 8 ай бұрын
Indeed.
@literallynothinghere9089
@literallynothinghere9089 11 ай бұрын
I love the Pre Arab North Africa vibe since i played rome total war as a kid
@zakback9937
@zakback9937 11 ай бұрын
"pre Arab"
@joao.fenix1473
@joao.fenix1473 11 ай бұрын
@@zakback9937 Isnt it pre Arab?
@literallynothinghere9089
@literallynothinghere9089 11 ай бұрын
@@user-fd9di2fb8f Was Ahmed Ben Bella better than Houri Boumedien?
@craezee247
@craezee247 10 ай бұрын
you are not allowed to say pre-arab or pre-muslim, there was nothing before.
@zakback9937
@zakback9937 10 ай бұрын
@@craezee247 cope and seethe
@ericponce8740
@ericponce8740 11 ай бұрын
Questions: Was the Punic language still spoken in Carthage in 600 AD? And when did chariot races cease in Carthage and Rome?
@kesorangutan6170
@kesorangutan6170 11 ай бұрын
Rural folks probably spoke it alongside amazigh language. Urban folk most likely spoke "african romance" language which was very similar to sardinian. North africans spoke some form of latin until the 15th century then it went extinct.
@Challffz
@Challffz 11 ай бұрын
@@SanjayKumar-jd3bv multicultural in that context doesn't mean what you think it does, sanjay kumar google play card sir
@hia5235
@hia5235 11 ай бұрын
No it was long gone.
@doublem1975x
@doublem1975x 11 ай бұрын
Probably not considering the Romans turned Carthage into a ghost town. The original Carthage that was destroyed in 146bc and the Roman Carthage that was built 100 years later were very different.
@micha2909
@micha2909 11 ай бұрын
​@@user-fd9di2fb8fThank you. This seems to be the best explanation.
@conneranderson219
@conneranderson219 11 ай бұрын
Your channel is awesome man! Have you ever thought of doing some sort of alternate history of emperor Maurice if he survived? I feel like this is a super overlooked alternate timeline
@janostoth4315
@janostoth4315 11 ай бұрын
Yes, this channel is great, but it would be a bad idea, to create content with alternate history. That would decrease the worth and trustworthyness of the real history content. There could be another channel for such phantasy content, but no mixing of both !
@Litany_of_Fury
@Litany_of_Fury 11 ай бұрын
There are already alt history videos on this channel. Mainly about the emperor majorian.
@jamesgrey1227
@jamesgrey1227 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely love your channel. Keep up the magnificent work, you Romanian legend. Multumesc!🇷🇴🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@marcusott2973
@marcusott2973 11 ай бұрын
I am looking forward to watching this later, at the moment work beckons. For the algorithm.
@BFDT-4
@BFDT-4 11 ай бұрын
Clearly, the ruins now show it to be far more dusty, dirty and dry than it really was then, when people swept the streets in front of their houses, had plants and trees, and the finishings were all relatively brand new.
@MrLanguageFanatic
@MrLanguageFanatic 11 ай бұрын
A terrific channel. I have been watching it for a while but this is my first comment. În calitate de american, salut munca pe care o faceți. Continuați munca bună.
@user-zv6id8lb3m
@user-zv6id8lb3m 9 ай бұрын
Thank you from mainland Greece.
@kimberlyperrotis8962
@kimberlyperrotis8962 2 ай бұрын
Kalimera from a Greek American! ❤🇬🇷
@micha2909
@micha2909 11 ай бұрын
This channel is so great. Thank you for just another superb video! I have a question - you showed us that Roman lifestyle in Alexandria and Carthage survived all the way until the Arab conquest. But how did life change *after* the Arabs arrived? Not only did they bring a new religion, so not only pagan relics but even flourishing Christianity came under pressure. How fast did society change? Arab cities are famous for covered markets but not for large shopping streets. Arabs in the 7th century weren't very urban to begin with. How did this impact the cityscape? The Arabs also founded new cities like Fustat and Kairouan which soon eclipsed the old Roman metropolises. How fast did this decline happen?
@loodwich
@loodwich 11 ай бұрын
So, the Spanish cities had those structures until the late XIX century, with all the 'porticada' streets conserved in several cities.
@holyfreak8
@holyfreak8 11 ай бұрын
Great video man! Love this channel! Greetings from Argentina
@muscledavis5434
@muscledavis5434 11 ай бұрын
This channel is such a gem 💎
@chris-lk4ml
@chris-lk4ml 11 ай бұрын
Thats a really good one! A historical video in deep in one theme, no fiction, just facts. I really hope more people would like this foem of videos. Gracias marioanus! Thanks and vielen lieben dank!
@ZaKRo-bx7lp
@ZaKRo-bx7lp 11 ай бұрын
I have always wanted to know more on this subject, fascinating video
@Alex-hu8gj
@Alex-hu8gj 11 ай бұрын
Ancient Roman cities be should rebuilt
@Onezy05
@Onezy05 10 ай бұрын
I've always wanted to learn more about life in the different provinces!
@haditawbe9617
@haditawbe9617 11 ай бұрын
Amazing video as always, keep it up!!
@jonathanfarrell2378
@jonathanfarrell2378 11 ай бұрын
Fascinating! Thanks for posting!
@quentinvalentingualberrena8127
@quentinvalentingualberrena8127 9 ай бұрын
As for me, I am a fan of the Early Roman Empire. I would even say nostalgic.
@angusarmstrong6526
@angusarmstrong6526 11 ай бұрын
Loved this one
@theodore6288
@theodore6288 11 ай бұрын
Great video and a beautiful production pictures the sound the music the narration great overall
@dantrianon4248
@dantrianon4248 11 ай бұрын
Excellent video! I love it
@ralambosontiavina7372
@ralambosontiavina7372 9 ай бұрын
Always so interesting !
@konradzatonow5078
@konradzatonow5078 11 ай бұрын
sweet video! thanks !
@TaeSunWoo
@TaeSunWoo 3 ай бұрын
I love me some good Eastern Roman content ❤
@DistantLights
@DistantLights 10 ай бұрын
Fascinating topic
@shannondavis3686
@shannondavis3686 11 ай бұрын
I love this time period. But most channels skip from the 530’s or 550’s gothic wars, to the 700’s when the Muslim invasions entered Visigothic Hispania. I’ve been trying my hand at writing some Historical Fictions books based on this time period. And in my research the sources are few and far between for this period in Western Europe. If you get enough feedback on this video, perhaps a series based around the 600’s covering Western Europe and the connections the Successor Kingdoms of the west still had to Rome, and The Byzantine Roman Empire.
@RedWolf75
@RedWolf75 11 ай бұрын
Visigothic Hispania would be s good one. Per historical records, Gothic Spain had similar culture and style as Eastern Rome. The Visigoths maintained Roman style governance until the Arab invasion. Probably similar story with Frankish Gaul.
@shannondavis3686
@shannondavis3686 11 ай бұрын
@@RedWolf75 the Visigoths like The Burgundians, and Their Frankish Overlords continued Roman Law and Culture for their Romano-Gaulic, Romano/Iberic subjects. The Visigoths, adopted the Latin language as the “lingua Franca” of their kingdom and Court, and adopted many Roman Cultural Practices. And would have been seen as basically the successors of The Roman Empire in Hispania, but for their Arian Christianity. That was brought into direct rivalry with the Chalcedonic Christianity of The Empire. They had mostly converted by the tone of the Muslim invasions though. The Franks also heavily adopted Romano-Gaulic culture, and Latin was used as the language of the court. The franks guaranteed Romano-Gaulic population the rule of Roman Law. While the Germanic tribes each lived under the stipulations of their tribal laws. Alemmanic, Bavarian, Ripurian Frank from the Rhineland of Austrasia, or Eastern Frankia, the Salic law was held for the Salic Franks who came from the region nearest the sea in modern Belgium and Frisia, and the Gothic Laws for their Thuringian Gothic subjects as well as their Visigothic and Ostrogothic subjects who resided in Aquitaine and Provence. The various Frankish Kingdoms, Neustria, Burgundy (after 534) Austrasia, and later the region of Gascony and Aquitaine, were all guaranteed the law of their people no matter if you were a Roman in Austrasia, or an Austrasian Frank in Aquitaine. Not until the Carolingian era once the kings were demoted to figure heads did the church law take over and supersede Tribal Law.
@You.r.overdue
@You.r.overdue 11 ай бұрын
Most impressive video and I've seen many of yours.
@4TheWinQuinn
@4TheWinQuinn 11 ай бұрын
Maiorianus you should make a Twitter or something to show off these generated images, especially that thumbnail. They’re such a good visualisation of these little known periods I want to save them!
@MilledSteel
@MilledSteel 10 ай бұрын
Amazing history, well done
@HittokiriBatosai
@HittokiriBatosai 11 ай бұрын
You must be reading my mind. I was just thinking, life in Rome and Constantinople is well documented. I was wondering what life in other provinces was during the Roman Empire; Hispania, Africa, etc. I wonder how "Roman" they still felt after trouble started in the capital.
@rebeccabroberts4849
@rebeccabroberts4849 3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Maiorianus_Sebastian
@Maiorianus_Sebastian 3 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for your kind donation, I really appreciate it
@999mi999
@999mi999 11 ай бұрын
My man, i really enjoy your video, but i honestly think the thumbnails are one of the reasons you are getting less views than you deserve. And i don't mean the fact that they are AI generated, that's fine. It's just that images alone don't really have a focal point, so they pop out less. From what i've seen, videos that have text in their thumbnails usually do better. The channel Invicta is a good example of what i mean.
@toreq1127
@toreq1127 11 ай бұрын
tbh the fact that they are ai generated would repulse me if i didnt know how good this channel is
@sacredsteeler
@sacredsteeler 11 ай бұрын
Maybe it's just his refusal to move on his paganophile commentary in every...single...video. It got old long ago
@andreamarino6010
@andreamarino6010 10 ай бұрын
​@@sacredsteelerYeah noticed his hatred for christianity and his pagan larping ass. But i mean, romanboos are like that.
@wilmanuts9954
@wilmanuts9954 11 ай бұрын
Definitely going to check out Gordon Doherty’s work, thanks for the recommendation
@BonanzaRoad
@BonanzaRoad 11 ай бұрын
You are very knowledgeable and interesting. You should consider writing a book about the late Roman Empire…
@olivierswanepoel3225
@olivierswanepoel3225 11 ай бұрын
Here is a like and a comment 😄👍
@balasaashti3146
@balasaashti3146 11 ай бұрын
I'll have to take a look at those books. I'm learning to draw so I can hopefully one day make a story about the late roman period but set during the last rump state in the west.
@jensphiliphohmann1876
@jensphiliphohmann1876 11 ай бұрын
13:50f: _Bathing culture lasted for seven centuries._ Maybe even beyond. It may have influenced the Turkish bathing culture.
@iainsanders4775
@iainsanders4775 7 ай бұрын
As an adherent of Tungsten lighting - in a cool/cold climate - I'm sure that Rome would have been too. LED light (the main replacement) cannot show fully saturated purple! There would have been an Imperial Edict! Pity LED is taking over the film industry now..
@micha2909
@micha2909 11 ай бұрын
@maiorianus what is the source for these great pictures you use? The portraits of people in the bathhouse, on the forum, on the Mese street, in the ruined theater? Are these AI generated? Who made them? They are great!
@michaelgarcia2973
@michaelgarcia2973 11 ай бұрын
I just discovered and learned how to do a Cretan Rope Chairs today.
@carlosfilho3402
@carlosfilho3402 11 ай бұрын
It's A Magnificent Vídeo.
@willymakeit5172
@willymakeit5172 10 ай бұрын
I’m curious about the rise in the wearing of leggings or pants-like clothes. The climate cooled during the last part of the Roman period so it might have been a change in dress, just to keep warm. Do you have any information on how and why grain was no longer shipped from North Africa?
@kanaankanaan5522
@kanaankanaan5522 10 ай бұрын
Voice is very funny 🤣
@SurvivorIce
@SurvivorIce 11 ай бұрын
Its was better then what came after 640AD.
@user-mm7ox7jc8w
@user-mm7ox7jc8w 11 ай бұрын
Can you do a video about life in late Roman Greece?
@MH-ms1dg
@MH-ms1dg 11 ай бұрын
Where do those live pictures of people praying come from?
@davideghirelli5856
@davideghirelli5856 10 ай бұрын
Better than today
@realtourdreams9655
@realtourdreams9655 6 ай бұрын
You forget that Europe had statuary from the fall of the empire through the entirety of the medieval period. The reason why Greeks gravitated towards iconography was because statuary was reminiscent of idol worship in the Greco Roman period, while the West didn’t have these concerns. It wasn’t necessarily the Roman tradition of sculpting per se, but statues is Roman Catholic worship were consistent. Think about the sculptures of the churches in the merovingian and Carolingian, and ottonian. There was a robust statuary tradition in Spain as well in response to Islam. If you mean was that it was not Greco Roman marble sculpture, then, correct, that took quite some time to return, but statuary and use as a tradition never died out in the west.
@wesleywyndam-pryce4081
@wesleywyndam-pryce4081 9 ай бұрын
i would have loved to have been the governor of Egypt, I always wonder about the south of Egypt was it attacked by tribes ? Egypt always seems pretty peaceful in terms of roman provinces plus very wealthy
@johnquach8821
@johnquach8821 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Maybe a "Was/How was the Sultanate of Rum connected to Rome? And to the drink Rum?" (IIRC Rum was a corrupted version of Rome at least linguistically in that area?)
@aahil7586
@aahil7586 11 ай бұрын
Danm I swear who knows ? Maybe some Muslim dude admiring the Romans (Not the first time )
@ldubt4494
@ldubt4494 11 ай бұрын
I think they did want to replace the eastern roman empire but never managed to do so. Basically what the ottomans did later
@johnquach8821
@johnquach8821 11 ай бұрын
Ok thank you. @@user-fd9di2fb8f
@haroldlanceevans
@haroldlanceevans 10 ай бұрын
Serious reply. One, yes the word "Rum" in Sultanate of Rum meant "Rome". Two, the origins of the drink rum are not perfectly clear but it most likely originated in Caribbean colonies in the 1600s.
@a1b1Bantu
@a1b1Bantu 8 ай бұрын
In Barbados to be most precise..Mount Gay rum...the rum that invented Rum! 1703!
@fourshore502
@fourshore502 10 ай бұрын
im surprised that they didnt turn the colosseums into churches? wouldnt they be perfect for that? with some slight modifications obviously, such as a roof and altar.
@Emoboyjohnny
@Emoboyjohnny 11 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion 11 ай бұрын
If the Eastern Roman Empire collapsed instead of the Western Roman Empire, how will this impacted the history of Egypt? I mean, will this led to the rise of the new dynasty with the Head of State being the Pharaoh again or something?
@ldubt4494
@ldubt4494 11 ай бұрын
This would mean that the germans would have layed a greater Focus on the east. So maybe there would have been a germanic egyptian dynasty? The Sasanians probably also would set their eyes on this area as they wanted to ultimately rule over all old achaemenid lands.
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion 11 ай бұрын
@@ldubt4494 If something like the Coptic Revolution did not happen and the Sassanid Iranian Empire did not gain a foothold in Anatolia yet, of course.
@Argo123_.0
@Argo123_.0 11 ай бұрын
@@lerneanlionit will probably be the Persians who took over it. Christianity is entrenched there, and I doubt they would associate themselves with a pharaoh, so very likely that won’t happen
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion 11 ай бұрын
@@Argo123_.0 What I'm talking about is that if the Sassanid Iranians decided to commit for full war effort into Anatolia, the Copts will have a chance to regain Egypt as an independent nation with the Pharaoh as the secular ruler and the Patriarch of Egypt as the religious leader.
@Argo123_.0
@Argo123_.0 11 ай бұрын
@@lerneanlion ok
@aetu35
@aetu35 11 ай бұрын
play the video in 1.5x speed if you hate how slow he speaks
@ariebrons7976
@ariebrons7976 8 ай бұрын
Another thing worth noting is that one would find multiple written languages. Late Rome had officialy recognised Coptic as a language in 300 A.D according to both Wikipedia and a documentary I saw on the Coptic language*, and it remained in use untill the eighteenth century A.D Mountain Armenian (Not to be confused with Neo Aramaic Syriac) and possibly even Gothic where used in some capacity. It apears to me that the Roman administration became more lax in other languages being spoken. Since the Senate of Constantinople conveined in Greek instead of Latin, People invented new Greek based alphabets left and right (Coptic Gothic, M. Armenian & Cyrrilic) for said barbarian** languages. And the arguments presented by St. Cyrril to the pope in rome; All seem to confirm my hypothesis. (please correct me if I'm wrong, I want to become an expert Roman historian) *See Ten Minute Bible Hour's tour of a Coptic Church for more information. ** Barbarian as in Βαρβαρος meaning "Non Greco-Latin" *** see: the German documentary Life of St.Cyrril for more details.
@ariebrons7976
@ariebrons7976 8 ай бұрын
On your point of the "main streets replaceing the Fora as center of civil life" Was this done more for religious purposes? (so not to defile holy church grounds) Or for more practical reasons such as population decline; change of life style; climate; money; ETC
@arthurbriand2175
@arthurbriand2175 11 ай бұрын
How did the provinces of Egypt, North Africa and Syria react to the Arab Conquest ? What was the feeling of the people on these new invaders and religion?
@poki580
@poki580 11 ай бұрын
they welcomed them because they were promised religion tolerance lmao
@Supremor-tj9dv
@Supremor-tj9dv 11 ай бұрын
Right, the peoples of the Near East welcomed the Muslims thinking they would get a better religious deal than what they got from Constantinople. There were some heresies prevalent in that area like Monophysitism that the orthodoxy from Constantinople didn’t like and so the people were persecuted for them. Also remember the Muslims made their move right after the end of the 20 yr war with Persia that left the Eastern Roman Empire exhausted. It couldn’t effectively resist the Muslims militarily. Of course the religious tolerance promised by the Muslims was a lie to catch the locals unawares and minimize resistance to their rule. If you didn’t convert to Islam you were at best a third class citizen or at worst executed. Now by the time the Muslims got to Egypt and Africa the cat was out of the bag as far as religious tolerance gaslighting went and those local people fought to the bitter end as you can read about what happened in Alexandria and Carthage. Gulp!
@tylerellis9097
@tylerellis9097 11 ай бұрын
@@poki580North Africa West of Egypt was Latin Chalcedonian not Monophysite and thus resisted the Caliphates expansion for 50 years alongside the Berber kingdoms. And as the other comment pointed out while Egypt and Alexandria didn’t initially resist much due to it being unfeasible, Alexandria opened its gates to a reinforcement army from Constantinople that was sent to retake the province…and was punished for it brutally by the Arab governor when the Byzantine force lost.
@RedWolf75
@RedWolf75 11 ай бұрын
​@@Supremor-tj9dv It's why the East Romans and Berbers fought the Arabs for almost 50 years until the fall of Carthage in 698. They resisted hard because they saw what happened in Syria and Egypt
@RedWolf75
@RedWolf75 11 ай бұрын
​@@tylerellis9097 Its ironic that after that resistance, the Berbers would become shock troops for the Muslims.
@francisdupont1656
@francisdupont1656 11 ай бұрын
In the Roman empire*
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 11 ай бұрын
I had to speed up the video to 1.25. lol
@matheusTM87
@matheusTM87 11 ай бұрын
Eastern Roman history narrated by Arnold Schwarzenegger, the crossover no one expected!
@sethhatfield6293
@sethhatfield6293 11 ай бұрын
Not the biggest fan of the ai art because it makes every single human male look like a Calvin Klein model from 2023. I much prefer the old style of having simple paintings and illustrations
@cshelley5658
@cshelley5658 11 ай бұрын
It was probably sandy. Was the sand, course, rough and get everywhere? 😂
@kimberlyperrotis8962
@kimberlyperrotis8962 2 ай бұрын
🙂🙂🙂
@kanaankanaan5522
@kanaankanaan5522 10 ай бұрын
We lost our roman heritage after the Islamic conquered
@mohammedsaysrashid3587
@mohammedsaysrashid3587 11 ай бұрын
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@the3zoooz1
@the3zoooz1 11 ай бұрын
wrong there is no proof of that it was the romans
@edwardfranks5215
@edwardfranks5215 10 ай бұрын
pic Jerash 2:44
@fourshore502
@fourshore502 10 ай бұрын
that begging for patreon support in the middle of the video is really annoying. do it in the beginning or at the end instead.
@hia5235
@hia5235 11 ай бұрын
So the idea of "Main Street" comes from Rome? Very interesting!
@TonyFontaine1988
@TonyFontaine1988 11 ай бұрын
Are you sick? Your energy feels different. Can hear it in the voice
@user-lu4nr6mc9m
@user-lu4nr6mc9m 11 ай бұрын
Late Roman cities looked lame . Glory to classic antiquity !
@tommyvalenzuela7504
@tommyvalenzuela7504 11 ай бұрын
I don't think I care for all the AI generated single profile shots. There were just too many shots of some AI generated person just staring back at the viewer or standing with its back to us. So much so that it became distracting while watching this otherwise fascinating topic.
@orion9779
@orion9779 10 ай бұрын
"Promosm" 🙃
@reeyees50
@reeyees50 11 ай бұрын
Spoilers: IT WAS GOOD
@rishavkumar1250
@rishavkumar1250 11 ай бұрын
Christians seeth and call you Anti Xtian in the comments for simply stating facts yet you seem unaffected!!! Pls Continue ignoring them and pls continue making such informative videos
@deutschesvaterlandfankanal
@deutschesvaterlandfankanal 11 ай бұрын
Well,sorry that the orthodox we're persecuted in soviet russia,sorry that we couldn't even practice catholicism in china,sorry that our american schools hate us,sorry that we're being killed of in the places we started from(middle east,and sorry about the fact that we're being raped in europe😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻
@bideni408
@bideni408 11 ай бұрын
Why i cant see your video "why the later romand wanted their empire to fall?" I saw your vid and was correct and havent any weird image or word. Now, Ytb ask me to give my ID card or credit card to sa my age. Its looks ideological thing.
@OhioDan
@OhioDan 10 ай бұрын
It's probably just age restricted for some reason.
@josemuzquiz7146
@josemuzquiz7146 11 ай бұрын
How come you never talk about the Mexican Romans! And their contributions to Roman society.
@kimberlyperrotis8962
@kimberlyperrotis8962 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the book recommendations, I hope they’re on Audible.
@kimberlyperrotis8962
@kimberlyperrotis8962 2 ай бұрын
They are! And I got the first book free, great. It’s in my Audible library, ready to read. Listen, I should say! I have a bad back that requires me to do some bed-resting on my side everyday, and Audible has been a godsend to keep me happy while doing that, hands-free.
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