As always, extremely transparent in your approach to resolving this important issue and says a lot about the company when even despite several chances to make this right , they still haven’t. 🤷♂️
@paullee40422 жыл бұрын
As a former motorcycle parts store dealer i bought chrome swing arm pivot blocks that looked awesome but chrome started to bubble and peel after 5 months. Called them and first thing they asked was if the bike was an everyday use bike, they said their parts were best for show bikes not every day riding. returned all i had of theirs parts enough said !
@chrisburch95132 жыл бұрын
The majority of hot spots are between the cooling bores. The pads looked near new no property issues, they are still suitable for stock rotors. Conclusion; the Arlen Ness wave rotors were damaged during the machining process. The drill was not properly dressed and the part was not adequately cooled during machining. I would seek a refund.
@stuartberke58452 жыл бұрын
Definitely should get a refund. New rotors. Should not have warped. I don't think I would have ever considered a scalloped roter anyway.
@JBTexas2 жыл бұрын
Hands down those new rotors look 100 percent better! I’m not a gold fan! Sorry your going thought that issue with Arlen ness! Bad customer service turns me away no matter how good your product is! Hope you don’t have any issues with new set! Silver Back is looking like a stallion! Ride safe, god bless!
@Big88Country2 жыл бұрын
Man, I was just looking at buying an Arlen Ness big sucker, but after watching this, it AIN'T HAPPENIN!!! I am always looking to buy from companies that back their product 100%, but I guess they don't. What chaps my, you know what, is that they are completely ignoring you. That should never happen from a reputable company!! I'll go with DK Customs!!
@davedubeau91242 жыл бұрын
So glad to hear that you were able to resolve this issue. I was looking into the wave rotors for my new front wheel as well and after seeing this I’m all set.
@HOLYSHIFT2 жыл бұрын
Good video buddy. Nice and balanced review about the Sub- Par customer service you got ! I think you were more than fair with the company!
@robertmacdonald27352 жыл бұрын
Some companies don't get it John....after purchase service makes up a company's reputation as well...this will make me think twice on purchasing AN products...customer service is everything....even the respect of returning a phone call. Bike looks great....I like the dark rotors...everyone has the gold ones...
@rollinthrottle2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad to see you got the shake issue fixed. Anything that can upset the motorcycle is not good. I hate to hear your customer service issues. I can feel your pain with that especially with expensive purchases. Be safe!
@BlueLineHarleybyMiltonFig2 жыл бұрын
I agree John, the black color looks much better than the gold.
@garrysceppa75082 жыл бұрын
Thanks John I'm sorry for your brake issue thank god you didn't get hurt in the process. Last Saturday I drove my brand new bike home from the Harley dealer I had my wife follow . first thing she said to me about the bike was I couldn't see your lights in the back . I said I know they will be changed out ASAP with custom dynamics. My wife goes you would think with all the money you just dropped they would have better lighting .
@ridethepace60052 жыл бұрын
I just hit their marketing team with an email, as well as their channel and Facebook. Hope everyone else does too. Shit really burns me up when companies do this.
@painsrides36162 жыл бұрын
Happy you have functional front brakes.. I agree, its a much cleaner look with the new rotors 👍👍
@StanJaquish8 ай бұрын
I was thinking about purchasing the first ones with the gold center, but after watching hing your video's I changed my mind and purchased the same ones that you ended up with. One hundred in the rotor are warped and chattering. Toke them off and put the OEM rotors back on. Problem solved. Arlen Ness acted like they had no idea what I was talking about. Avoid their rotors completely.
@htownsgr8est1682 ай бұрын
I’m dealing with the same issue with those exact rotors. It caused my wheel bearing to fail on the trip home from Sturgis
@bmwdan34452 жыл бұрын
John, Personally i think the new rotors look way better!! I felt the gold ones make the bike look cheap. Very classy now! Glad you got it straighten out! Shit on the company for not reaching out to you! I hope they get an ear full from your subscribers by canceling orders. those marks on the rotors almost look like they were caused by heat, if you haven’t already I would definitely do a brake bleed of the front brakes.
@zion11262 жыл бұрын
John thanks for always being upfront about the products on the bike!!!
@Doomstrader2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a similar problem with their support. I was just nope that’s just how it is. That was a year ago and I’ve never used them again. Lots of options out there. I have to make a bike and breakfast in NJ it’s just a quick hop over from Long Island !
@richardeldon1322 жыл бұрын
Had a chance to buy the same as yours , But they were out of shock.They told me they had a milling problem.
@innovationgroupofsouthflor47442 жыл бұрын
John, Try Lydall Racing Brakes they are the best. and the customer service is amazing. Ask for Chico he is the sale Manager I would send the arlen ness back
@tommiller87142 жыл бұрын
Root-cause analysis of wavy rotors failure (out of round, out of tolerance) purchased through Arlen Ness. Find it hard to believe (but not impossible) that manufacturing machining caused this, as one would believe that their Q.A. Inspection(s) would or should have caught it. Leaves a few other possibilities: how these were stacked, stored, etc. in a warehouse? Or an employee dropped them (somewhere in the process) and failed to report it? Pads? Doubtful that the Break-in/bedding process is culprit. No matter, the lack of Arlen Ness Industries to follow up with you is shocking. I for one would have thought they care about their reputation and customer service satisfaction; but apparently not, at least so far...not. I for one am holding off on any purchases from them until we know how they respond back to you for resolution. I have two Harleys ('21RGS & '22FXLRS) in my garage that I'm doing all sorts of mods & upgrades on, so I'll shop elsewhere for the time being. I'm confident that I'm not the only sub here that feels this way. Best of luck with them and I do hope they respond back soon. You've done more than your part reaching out to them.
@paullee40422 жыл бұрын
Black looks much better,nice n slick. Never been a gold fan
@frenchy1142 жыл бұрын
Looks good. Arlen Ness won’t see a dollar of mine.
@whatsbruin592 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Looks way better now. Best form of advertisement is word of mouth and it also works the other way so now people will stay away from Arlen Ness Everything happens for a reason. Hope to see you guys in Laconia 🏍👍
@cryptopope17722 жыл бұрын
John, kudos to you for trying again. The new rotors look great. Not a good look all the way around for Arlen Ness. Like the old saying goes "what comes around goes around". Love the channel and keep'em comin...
@01Lightning2 жыл бұрын
Ive been trying to get Arlen Ness to answer the phone for 2 months. Glad you got the issue resolved
@keithclever58102 жыл бұрын
John I like the black much better than the gold. This will be a much nicer look for Silverback. Good job, great video keep them coming man.
@eriklindholm65772 жыл бұрын
Yes this looks much better to me. Thank you for your content.
@ocglide25662 жыл бұрын
Arlen Ness is probably turning over in his grave very sad situation with them. I agree about Ciro I had an issue with one of by headlight bezel lights one side was not working. They had a replacement shipped that arrived in 2 days. Could not have been happier.
@freewheeler72322 жыл бұрын
I really like the gold Rotor insert at first but now that you have that one-on-one that really fits Silverback perfectly. Looks amazing.🤙
@lpete5312 жыл бұрын
Customer service is everything! I wouldn't have purchased a bolt from them. Hopefully the new rotors will be fine, the new rotors looks better for sure.
@jimchurchman26282 жыл бұрын
Gold center on original front rotors were an eye catcher that took your eye off all the other added beauty to the bike. New rotors are clean looking and clearly cool aftermarket so yo still have a lot better braking ability. Ride safe John!
@blackhawk24752 жыл бұрын
Glad you finally got the brake problem solved. Just wondering... You spoke only about the front rotors... Were your rear rotors also defective??? Ride safe!!!
@Wontonsoup3052 жыл бұрын
Lyndall all day n night pads and rotors
@ronsharleytwistedstella92002 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video because I was about to pull the trigger on a set from Arlen Ness
@michaelspaulding60882 жыл бұрын
I purchased the wave rotors from the same company as you did, but had not installed them yet.....After seeing your video I sent them back....Thanks for the heads up !
@garvinboyce29372 жыл бұрын
I love your detail feedback on product you tried and have experience with it’s much appreciated. Great video 👍🏽
@davidsizemore27452 жыл бұрын
Looks better than the old rotors.
@ODRM20222 жыл бұрын
John, can't believe your still using a JACK! Time you moved up to a Big Boy lift. If you park your bike on it theirs no extra room needed.
@johnbyrns21592 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about the ness product, but love the look of silver back,
@richardboggs2602 жыл бұрын
You are going to have more stopping power on the rotors that are not wave, because you have more of the brake pads contacting the rotor. I like the black parts over the gold parts of the old rotors. I think the gold was to much contrast on the front end
@rickykeaton92362 жыл бұрын
Black rotors look a lot better. The gold waved rotors looked like cheap trail bike rotors. The blue bike looks great except for the tag placement. It would look better centered under the finder.
@Jarvisbiker2 жыл бұрын
I had the same issue with my stock Road Glide Rotors, bad metallurgy is the culprit, issue with dealer because rotors were not warped but blue patches all around..............thanks for the information, its very helpful.................................JB..
@robertfagan88332 жыл бұрын
Thanks John for another informative video.. glad you got the new rotars I personally think they look better with silverbacks overall appearance .. very sad to hear about the customer service but glad your riding much safer now..
@purpleheartvet242 жыл бұрын
Bigger man Sir, I would have gone with another company!
@RoadGlider18392 жыл бұрын
Sad state of affairs with some of these companies not standing behind their products. Accountability for poor design and performance. Harley Pads a thumbs up!!
@terrymartinez62822 жыл бұрын
It’s sad when company doesn’t to back their product. Personally I wouldn’t of made another purchase from Arleen Ness. Good luck John. I like your reviews.
@timnevitt2993 Жыл бұрын
glad i watched this video because im looking for rotors because factory rotors suck and are warped after 8 months and 7000 miles
@jamesdunn35082 жыл бұрын
I so appreciate your videos and reviews. As I stated I had those rotors in red in my cart because I loved the look of yours. I was just waiting until I found a prodigy front wheel for my 2019 EGS. I will not be buying them now and thank you again for saving my the time ,frustration, & most important MONEY & SAFETY. Appreciate it brother
@steikio12 жыл бұрын
I'm 100% with you on the customer service.
@keithkohnke2 жыл бұрын
John, I just added the big brake rotors on my 2020 UL and now am going to pay even more attention to them based on your experience. Mine are like your new ones but wave. Ughh Keep us updated with these new rotors. Ride safe...
@rolandb.campos45352 жыл бұрын
Your new rotors looks good , maybe you ought to spray paint the bolts red or gold to give it a little color touch. Excellent video👍
@darkhorse19892 жыл бұрын
Man I don’t know how many times I’ve done that only ordering one and thinking it was a set. I your pain. I like the new rotors better I think. Great video
@joeshields89742 жыл бұрын
With the shortage of materials nowadays, the manufacturer is probably using whatever is available. Could be subpar chinesium or incorrect heat treating process.
@josephlofton4382 жыл бұрын
That baby is sweet. Rotors look better. Where in PA are yall having breakfast. Might stop by to see u guys
@dearslayer45242 жыл бұрын
Wow thats alot of money just thrown away they shouldve taken care of no problem ! Good luck on the new rotors .
@hdryderct2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always and very detailed about your experiences. I’d be extremely frustrated if I was in your situation and I think you handled it great. On the other end I’ll be sure not to buy anything from them ever give your customer services experience or lack of it I should say regardless if they finally reach out to you and fix the issue or not; you shouldn’t have had to wait even this long.
@smokeydk77122 жыл бұрын
will be interested to see after few miles for you to do that test with gauge to see if any change
@TimscoG19672 жыл бұрын
It looks much better without the gold, the black and metal fits the color of the bike better, JMO.
@TheRoadking19732 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear how Arlen Ness treated you bub. But I was looking at the front end of Silver Back, and brother that bike would look sick with a 18” or 21” Fat front tire. Just an idea 😉.
@edwardfaris85162 жыл бұрын
They lose in the end via bad publicity...we're all watching...
@davedubeau91242 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you Ronnie Deitch. Silverback would definitely look even better with new rims.
@chris_fxlrst2 жыл бұрын
Looks great man love how it came out ! Loving the street bob build as well !
@louisgiardina89182 жыл бұрын
Hey John I actually think they look much nicer the black in the middle matches perfectly 👍
@08StreetGlide2 жыл бұрын
So I was interested in the video, but what major issue are you having with your brakes....???
@robertdavis54952 жыл бұрын
I use stock Harley pads, in my opinion there the best for our bikes. They aren’t that expensive and they’re Brembo's to boot!
@twobeagles13655 ай бұрын
If I get any run around from any company that does not value great customer service , especially when you have spent alot of money on a certain component, they will never get another dollar from me and I will tell as many people as I can about them.
@Splitlanecycles6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. Had these in my cart with Drag Specialties. Looking elsewhere. Stat safe brother 🤙🏼
@chadbobby2 жыл бұрын
I'm saddened by this because I REALLY REALLY liked the Gold centers!!
@bobmaslan24012 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Is it possible that the rotor warped when it was bolted to the wheel?
@ciroctrider2 жыл бұрын
John, thanks for the honest video. Love the fact you’ll shoot it straight rather than sell a product. From the perspective of a guy in manufacturing, it appears that the batch of those rotors were heat treated or mchined the wrong way which warped them and made it harder in some spots and softer in other which is why there are burn marks.
@jimg.so.cal.10182 жыл бұрын
Great video John I looking to get some new rotors for the street glide and road glide and I’m going to follow your suggestion. Thank you
@a.r.o76972 жыл бұрын
Those rotors do look better than the ones with the gold carrier. It seems there may be a manufacturing problem with those oversized floating rotors if other people are having the same issue. I'm going with Galfer when I decide to make the switch.
@richkinney77512 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this video of your experience. I had the Arlen Ness wave rotors in my cart but had not yet pulled the trigger. I’l find another brand as I can’t risk having a problem and Arlen Ness telling me to kick rocks.
@jimkelley55782 жыл бұрын
Like the new rotors. Looks purposeful not glitzy. Better total look.😀
@DavidSmith-fw6uj2 жыл бұрын
GOOD Luck 🍀 on the Breaks I wonder where they were manufactured ❓ They may still grew ⬆️ up when they get hot 🥵 Love from DeKalb Mississippi USA 🇺🇸
@justinbaby20 Жыл бұрын
I have this same issue with the same rotors! I can't afford to purchase another set though, looks like I'll have to save my pennies! Wish arlen ness would recall them!
@jonnymac89252 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to lie, I've heard SO many people say they have had warping problems with 11.5, 11.8, 13, 14 inch rotors warping in a short period of time. I hate companies that aren't there for their customers. I certainly hope the second set didn't give you a hard time!
@jdmannino682 жыл бұрын
Hey John question when you go 14" router do you have to relocate the break calipers any extension needed it?? Thanks in advance 👌 great video!
@jdmannino682 жыл бұрын
@@CYCLEFANATIX cool good to know! Thanks again! 👍
@arthurcutaiar9994 Жыл бұрын
Router-rotor Break-brake. I felt like i was reading an issue of carpentry monthly.
@ejdtm2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the wave rotors had a bad batch of stainless steel.
@michaeleddy3162 жыл бұрын
I'm really curious if you have noticed this. it's only been a couple of week ago and I installed some new galfer rotors and I used those exact same arlen ness bolts that you used. 20 road glide special with the prodigy wheels. the conical washers that arlen ness uses would not allow my rotor to float at all. essentially tuned them into solid mount rotors. fortunately, galfer supplied some washers with the rotors that are the exact same oem wafer style. and now my rotors float like they should.
@gvaldezcurrie Жыл бұрын
Nice although Black bolts would be the kind
@775summit2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a rotor now how does it work
@billghostrider79397 ай бұрын
Been doing research last couple days to upgrade my brakes. I have seen numerous bad comments, stories about ness. I will not be buying anything from them.
@louisgoldfond63262 жыл бұрын
JB if weather permits are u and the crew going to Bikes and Breakfast tomorrow? Safe travels buddy
@HOLYSHIFT2 жыл бұрын
Hey Louis - weather looks bad - probably not gonna go. If weather surprises us and clears - I might show up! Don’t know about the rest of the guys…
@bigjohnq12 жыл бұрын
John thanks for the great information once again you're doing a great job. And just my personal opinion I think the 2nd set of motors look better on the bike than the 1st. Have a great day
@tomdabassis17762 жыл бұрын
Hey John. Unrelated question. Do you have the S1000rr? Just curious. Such a SICK bike! Cheers
@andrewmartinez28102 жыл бұрын
Bike looks way better with the second set .. I love the lights on the street bob . Are you planning to do the headlight on the street bob ?
@stevencorry57902 жыл бұрын
Think that customer service is bad....imagine spending 26,000 on a bike...a year later your salesman sends you a text to see how things are going....a week later you go to the dealership and he's too busy making sales to say hello.Yeah.....don't buy a bike at a Harley Dealer in Southern Kentucky.
@jacksonbush43212 жыл бұрын
This video right here just talked me out of purchasing anything from Arlen Ness. I literally have these same rotors in my shopping cart at Revzilla and just deleted them from the cart. If you can’t get customer service with all of the viewership you have, what’s little Joe Blow like me going to get? What a damn shame cause they look bad ass.
@glennsands46752 жыл бұрын
more in keeping with the rest of the bike . Looks great
@beans44912 жыл бұрын
Great video sir, love the channel, bike and content. Kind regards.
@robertgraves77742 жыл бұрын
Bought arlen ness rotors. Similar but the 13" . They have that pulse action on the brake lever as well. They have that wave style of cut. Very disappointing 😞
@chrisstar85082 жыл бұрын
hd brake pads are probably the best. every aftermarket brand I've used the pads always squeaked. hd pads dont.
@joesainato80512 жыл бұрын
I think it looks a lot better with the new rotors. The gold didn’t jive with the bike imo. The customer service really dropped the ball
@ruthann30302 жыл бұрын
What motorcycle jack do you use.
@tank73582 жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest, I liked the anodized gold, but not the wavy rotor. The new ones do look better. Curious, are you running oversized rims? (Been hearing a lot of guys doing 21 front , 18 rear?)
@Walt4502 жыл бұрын
john out of all those windshields you have ran do you like thst 9 inch the best.i run the 9 also but leaning on the 12 inch pro thx
@arthurcurtis63732 жыл бұрын
I am also having issues with mine as well. I dont get lever pulsation but I am getting a vibration at lower speeds that felt like a bad bearing. Changed the bearings and the issue is still there. Bummed
@Tcalz06 Жыл бұрын
any update on these rotors with some miles on them?