MAJOR change of direction for the Suburban Build... I changed my mind

[@CITYBORNDESERTBRED]

LT: ..for now we are gonna shelf the suburbalanche idea 52k subscribers: *Collective Exhale*

[@tysoncurrie7745]

Leave the Suburban the way it is, is my thoughts. Lots of people turn them into overlander vehicles and think it would be a better transformation for it then hacking it up to make it look like something it was never ment to be or look like because if you mess it up there no going back after its been cut up and ruined.

[@Dakattack98]

He could call it the Suburban bugout

[@johnnychingas5282]

Stretching the wheelbase and keeping it as a suburban would look bad ass 🤙

[@captndavie]

Avalanches are ugly. I have enjoyed your work so far on this suburban. Don't ruin it! An 80s suburban with an 80s blazer top would be cool though.

[@USSRairsoft]

I would love to see a twin turbo 454 suburban where it all fits under the hood! I'm glad you are not going to cut up the back of your suburban. Looks good as is!

[@apprenticefelix7740]

Vgt turbos

[@jamiburns1448]

Not feeling the avalanche , but solid axle with turbo big block (mud machine).

[@davidwright3390]

Staplton is a super good dude and I would love to see a mash up on burbans

[@dancornell4062]

Love the Suburban project! Please don't do the avalanche treatment to it. Really excited about the brake upgrade and turbo portion of the project.

[@helvetesfonster900]

I love the idea of putting a bunch of power into it and making into a sleeper. When I started building the 460 in my crew cab ford dually I had the same idea. I love that it's a completely unassuming platform, everyone who sees the truck is going to think it's an old slow work truck when in reality it's got a fairly healthy 460 under the hood that makes about twice the factory output now. I don't get me wrong it's it's no powerhouse but it pulls trailers like a monster and it's actually quick. Specifically with the suburban you could have a really nice 5 or 600 horsepower Big block in it and it would be perfectly streetable.

[@JA-no1qk]

LT. you're gonna love having a fast burb! I built two different GMT 900 Yukon XL 2500s with the 8.1. Raylar parts, built transmission, and they were absurd in all the right ways. Even with exhaust, it's absolute sleeper status; NOBODY ever expects a lightning fast burb.

[@prebuiltabyss881]

Can’t wait to see the gmt800 disk brake/knuckle swap

[@LawrenceTolman]

will be coming up probably in the next month

[@texan90]

I am planning to do this brake swap as well, but it's been shelved for the foreseeable future for me. In the mean time, I'm gonna convert to K3500 dually disks and calipers until I can come back to the 800 setup.

[@prebuiltabyss881]

@@texan90 Mine was a dually originally so I was going to stick with that for now but we’ll see what the swap is like and go from there

[@Joe_kickass25]

Love those suburbans that exact year was what we were running during the 98 ice storm up here in Ontario thing saved us pretty much

[@billkerksiek208]

I was never a fan of the Avalanche anyway, but I thought the project was cool and going to show some cool techniques. Still excited to see what ends up happening. If it were mine, I'd go ahead and solid axle swap the front end, probably with a Dana 60, then add a 4-6 inch lift and go for the turbo 454 build. Could end up being a capable daily driver with some off road capabilities. Of course, it's your truck, and your build. I'll be along for the ride either way.

[@CoastalAutoReactionCAR]

Looks great the way she is!

[@dwiktoworship]

I have 98 gmc w 454. I hate avalanche look that u showed in this video! But im excited to see what else you may come up with. Id like to see budget power and mpg upgrades for the novice DIYer. I bought this to tow my boat because I couldn't afford a truck. Now i am glad its so much more handy for family

[@dwiktoworship]

I can't stop driving it but gas is killing me... can you do easy upgrades to get more power and better mpg to bring it into the practical use?

[@dwiktoworship]

I bought a tuner hypertech only to find out its 91 octane only so i returned it. Now im just in limbo with an awesome suburban that gets 6mpg towing. I have heard if ECM flashes swaps etc tgat make 40-50hp and 40-50 tq that would be huge! Not sure if headers and CAI would make a difference.

[@dwiktoworship]

For the novice mechanic is there gains to be had without opening the engine installing a turbo but easier bolt on mods that produce verifiable gains? I want to see that. Feel free to reach out to me ill show you my beast i love it!

[@dwiktoworship]

I said 98 but its a 99 build date 8/98

[@dwiktoworship]

Love the chanel!

[@kolideoskope]

Glad to hear you're not going to hack it up! Speaking as someone whose head is filled with countless what-if ideas, sometimes you just gotta toss one back.

[@PetesPlaceGarage]

Keep it a Suburban. A Suburban is the handiest vehicle in the world, and the minute you make it not a Suburban, you will want another one. It is the ultimate family vehicle. Don't mess with a good thing.

[@rotaxtwin]

Can I get a Hallelujah!?

[@Bowtie_Mike7319]

I like the Suburban showdown idea with Mitchell! Two big block obs land yachts running down the quarter mile faster than they were ever intended to!

[@fredproctor6973]

I wouldn't do it, but that's me. I'd do the turbo deal.

[@SampsonAllen]

Keep it true and do a overland build

[@LawrenceTolman]

Regardless of what happens to the cab on this thing, its definitely gonna have some more power when its all said and done. Once the chassis and suspension is sorted out, its time to add more power!

[@phanto4]

if you really want to do the conversion use a tahoe, way shorter behind the wheel well

[@dalesmith2061]

It is Mitchell Stapleton not Chris.... Just to clear that up, love the video's keep up the good work..

[@phanto4]

@@dalesmith2061 ?

[@paulg.5075]

The Lingenfelters were a 9.9L that were originally destined for government use in the middle-east. Apparently the government never took delivery and few of these were left to collect dust. You should look into the California Highway Patrol supercharged 3/4ton Suburban special service units. From what I understand, there's a few still in use.

[@Waterskibug]

I'm on my 4th suburban. Love those vehicles. I went to an Excursion for a few years but ended up back with a suburban.

[@Ryanfantana]

No need to lengthen the wheel base, you only need to shorten it behind the rear wheels. Chop the whole back half between the rear doors and wheel wells then graft most of a short box bed onto the sub body. Shorten the frame behind the axle. Then clad the bottom half in plastic…

[@andy347495]

No avalanche please! They are fugley!

[@jeromeburrasca6710]

The answer is obvious. Prerunner + Overlander = Prelander Suburban!!!!! Make it so!!!!!

[@PaulsProTips]

Always thought you were trolling us with the Suburbalanch idea. From the moment you spoke about it, I was like LT is jumping the shark a little too fast in his new channel. Glad to hear you're considering focusing your energy on other things. You could always commission an artist to do a rendering you like and hang it on the wall.

[@TurboDog73TX]

I never cared for the Avalanches myself, so I'd be real hard pressed to put the effort into the conversion as You described. But... I'm 10,000% behind the idea of a nasty Turbo Big Block Suburban!! Do it!

[@williambob245]

I would watch the videos. I would never want to buy it or build it myself at all, but I will watch the videos when you do put it out.

[@grants.9120]

Sounds like a great collaboration opportunity with Kenin Tetz! If anyone can make a Suburbalanche look good it's him.

[@Chevelle_addict]

That's a clean burban. Love those things

[@kevenhiemie]

I'm not a fan of the Avalanches but I love your idea of building an old body style on. I agree that the placement of the rear axel makes it look Goofy.

[@kevenhiemie]

***one

[@sorenandersen2159]

I really hope you do the avalanche mod, you point out every detail of how to make things right way and looks and proportions are really key. If you don't do it nobody will. Thanks for all the great videos and all the detail. That's what makes your channel different and damn good. You are like Edd China in a way and he had the best show for years.

[@LawrenceTolman]

that's the biggest compliment I've had in a long time, thank you! I love Edd China's presentation style and his work

[@AP9311]

LT, I'm a fellow 99 gmc suburban with gmt400 platform with 350 block! I really hope you don't hack that real nice suburban! But i like the supercharger or turbo build!! That will change a lot in your beautiful truck!! I am looking forward to your detailed from drum to disk conversion! Like make links to where you get them and what models they were from etc, so I can document the process with mine. One another thing, if you get NBS master brake cylinder from 2002 to 2006 gmt800, and get BLF-26C part number for brass 9/16 inverted to 1/2 -20 inverted adapter that will greatly improve your breaking by 50%!! Thought I'd pass that to you :) love your videos so far, i enjoy them a lot! Many thumbs up!

[@charlesschneider7079]

Had a good friend that had a square-body Suburban with the 454 and he supercharged it. He used t tow his boat and his race trailer.

[@TheBeerBox80]

I like suburban's the way they are.

[@ryaneddy366]

I was thinking of doing this years a go.

[@teaguegearhart9851]

I like the change ideas. Great that you are ahead 5 steps. Some people would take the saw to it and cry themselves to sleep only after realizing the horror. Lol. Let’s get the turbo going. 🔥 🔥

[@PowerSportsQuebec]

OOooOOoF! Nah, not for me. These Burbs are getting VERY rare and I've been looking for one for ages! Don't! ;)

[@austinkelly2807]

Someone did one of these builds in Oregon, grafting the truck metal to a suburban. I cannot for the life of me say I liked it, and I'm happy that the world isn't getting another one at this time.

[@larryw5429]

Just buy a avalanche if you want one so bad lol! IMO I would throw some turbos at the suburban with some new paint nice wheels and tires..

[@scotttimpany2845]

I'm in NC and I swear I can hear misses Tolman screaming, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

[@larryspringsteen5662]

I saw a Bobbed Burban a few years ago. The guy chopped 17 inches off the back and joined it all back to look like factory. Shortened the departure angle. Slightly different way to chop up the sheet metal. He kept the rear glass just has a glass shop take 17 inches out of the side rear windows. Larry in El Paso

[@hulksta3223]

I hope you do it like the real Avalanches where the wall separating the cab from the bed actually folds down. Making the Avalanches AWESOME for the beach 👍🏽

[@robertfake6496]

I always wanted to see a Suburban Conversion (van) SUV. You know like the conversion vans, with extra high roofline, captains chairs and tv in the back with a mini-fridge or whatever. A luxury Suburban. Or with the high top make into a camper style conversion. I would be interested in either build.

[@Mr62biscayne]

If you just have to do the suburbalanche pickup a junker chassis and do it to see if it works. Me personally I wouldn't mess with this one. Definitely like the turbo idea.

[@dbrandon4528]

Good call

[@TBGaels32]

I’ve always loved the look of the 88-98 GM trucks (92-00 suburban K5) and I wouldn’t butcher this up. You could always try to find a king pin Dana 60 and pair it with a atlas adapter and keep the 241 tcase.

[@brainwashingdetergent4128]

If you move the wheels it will be sweet. Do it! Maybe get blazer bedsides that will settle distance to the rear measurements. Fill in the rest somehow and good luck buddy.

[@johnkropp3793]

I am not on board with the avalanche conversion idea. I am interested in the turb-urban!!! Let's get er done LT.

[@Hitman-ds1ei]

Ok now I'm passed, was really looking forward to the avalanche conversion as I am looking to do mine her in Australia

[@richardharvey8939]

Just watched Stapleton before your video. He moved to North Carolina and is going to road trip his obs from Pennsylvania to new shop. It’s been sitting for years. He has a 632 from blueprint engines to put in it.

[@Sonicdude10]

If you still wanna do the "burbalanche" idea then I suggest what you said. Move the axle back and maybe even get a wrecked blazer of that generation to use the rear section of the body from. The Fab Rats channel actually had one of these in their shop that was turned into a unibody sort of truck with a pickup rear firewall in place of the rear roof. IT would take a good bit of metal work but adding that extra 8 (or so) inches of wheelbase should help it have the look you want.

[@6.SlowSilverado]

Would love to see a face off between you and Chris it would be cool to see you make a liginfelter clone to

[@TRUCK_TECHNICIAN]

i have a gmt400 1999 crew cab dually short bed i think thats what you really need to be looking at

[@stevenbrowningsr1144]

Just another crew cab pickup? Convertible suburban? COOL!

[@coolHandLuke5150]

I agree. The wheel base needs to change for it to look right. If you are going to do it, on it right. If your not a sheet metal guy, find a nother change that you respect and do so trade work. You bulld them a turbski set up and they do sheet metal work for you. Its win win and great content

[@anthonysilva4410]

I've never been a fan of the Avalanche. I say keep it a suburban and build the drive train. Tons of upgraded available for the 454 and easy to make good power. Could even do a carb intake with a Holley Sniper EFI.

[@chevyguy8394]

I really look forward to how you build this Suburban. And I agree with your the avalanche conversation just looks odd.

[@benq.mechanical]

Giving it some time to re-evaluate is probably ok. Once its done, if it looks funny, it'll always look funny. It's still a sweet truck now. I'm personally interested in the performance upgrades a lot more!

[@johnbarker5009]

This is going to be a cool project.

[@LawrenceTolman]

I sure hope so

[@tommy-leerice8143]

Great video love the Suburban can't wait to see it turbocharged👍👍

[@xozindustries7451]

Can you find any L21 454’s from a Kodiak or Top Kick? They are forged lower ends and you can start making lots of power. I think the Burban would make a great over landing rig for your family to enjoy

[@joedominguez9052]

Solid axle .... turbo big block / camping rig

[@chrisgardner1431]

My buddy had a lingenfelter Tahoe. Was awesome for a year. Then the thing overheated all the time. The tune was off and it was breaking parts he couldn’t get left and right. Sold it for a loss. Sad story

[@JimmyZ408]

I have a 99 GMC Burb, did the GMT 800 front brake upgrade, running a Whipple side mount kit from the late 90's, 411 PCM, 36 Lb spider injectors, built small block (Not crazy) and now I'm installing a Alky meth injection system. I need a rear end with disc set up from an 05.

[@LawrenceTolman]

hey that sounds like a badass build! I wish they made a larger whipple for these trucks like they did on the Marine 454 engines...

[@benjaminland6693]

Opened youtube to look something up.. saw the thumbnail and said oh I got to see this😳🤣

[@thegdfp6447]

I have a 99 L29 2500 2wd that I'm taking the driveline from. It's in MI, but you can take what you want.

[@dalehall2993]

Skill level 10😎👊🏻

[@laryeyre5563]

Top of bedside to body line is 2.25 inch

[@billdursa4724]

Guy down on central NC did a square body conversion, looks pretty good.

[@cayschavez3117]

Love that you have this channel now been watching you since you first got on tv awesome builds brotha!

[@LawrenceTolman]

I appreciate that

[@meanmax9663]

I'm also looking forward to the GMT800 knuckle/spindle swap! I have wanted to do a C2500 GMT800 knuckle/spindle swap on my C2500 GMT400 Crewcab shortbed for a long time! Unit bearings, bigger better brakes and aftermarket lift style knuckle/spindle parts to lift my 2wd sounds like a win/win/win for me!

[@jbturbs]

I'd thank you very much to NOT cut into that Suburban in such a manner! As some guys have already mentioned, I'm looking forward to that 800 brake swap!

[@kevinjohnson9372]

If you do that for the sake of coolness make it a barn door tale gate. And u could do a cam swap with a 4barrel swap set up for blow threw and lay down respectable numbers

[@osrr6422]

A Turban! I like it.

[@brentclark3627]

I also like the idea, once you suggested extending wheel base

[@bradgeiser8032]

turburban sounds good ,turbos are much more dependable than when your burban came out. it may be best to make a smaller bed that is more in 'sync' with the rest of the build. if you need more bed space, build an off road trailer, the turburban sure can handle the load..!

[@1stAxelKain]

Keep it as a burb! haha. Interested to see how you consider going bout a turbo setup (mount it underneath, or in the engine bay somewhere) but I was considering ways to make a M112, or M122 Eaton work on mine. It's too bad the Whipple kits are essentially lore now. Love how you've been doing the upgrades most of us want to/are looking into! the updated brakes, axle upgrade, t-case swap, etc.

[@bradlyswisher5414]

Yeah I would love to Turbo my Suburban it is a 2001 8.1 3/4 ton and is awesome it has a lot of bottom end torque stock and I want to make it a badass machine

[@bonesaw55]

Suburban commando, boom perfect name

[@r.a.quattrocchigbn211]

The Avalanche conversion seems disproportionate as you mentioned, I’d love to see a twin turbo set up though. My buddy has been trying to convince me to set up my 99 K2500 that way! Can’t wait to get the muffler you installed on yours. Thank you so much for these burb videos!

[@RanouttaTalent]

I love this idea! I was panning a big power swap into my k2500 suburban..... then I realized the om606 makes too much stupid sense

[@joshpeck443]

I had the same idea and was hung up on the look. The thing about the oe avalanche is the plastic fairings that pull your eye back to the rear. Maybe try rendering it with those and see if you like it better?

[@briangreenlee181]

maybe not on this build, but what is the possibility of having a truck with a portal axles swap such as axles from either a Humvee or an aftermarket unit?

[@the_truck_farmer]

I like the name “Tuburban”! :)

[@TandD1w]

Would you be open to supercharging the engine? I'd like to see a compare and contrast between the two methods of boosting an engine.

[@LawrenceTolman]

For sure, in fact I’ve been eyeing a Procharger setup

[@pb3033]

LT, your idea is OK, I think that the Avalanche 'angle 'put on' plastic racer back' comes in a piece..so..it changes the stance immediately and with a little restomod effect I think I can visualize your idea. Not bad !

[@haroldsennett9688]

A screw blower would help all that weight get moving better than a snail.

[@safetyfirstintexas]

Cut the top tight to the back window and rear doors. Fold down to the floor and weld in. cut sheet to match the arch for both sides "D" style. Basically pull side and back glass. And cut everything at bottom glass standing seam. Cap open holes. Im a performance over purty guy.

[@kushintheblunt]

LT what if you shorten the rear behind the wheel instead of stretching the wheel base 👍

[@mauricecooper176]

Go to the junkyard and get all the plastic pieces off of the avalanche and use those it will help hide that Distance behind the axle

[@lukesewalt3430]

I agree an avalanche would be cool, but holy cow it would be a lot of work, because it is the wheel well placement that is off. I think it would be cool to chop the top a few inches and solid axle the front end.

[@wkeiter]

Bed is 2 inches above where taillight top lines up with body.

[@bigc7t]

I think it would look cool and unique. Definitely custom and one or maybe two of a kind....Also I think changing the color of it would make it look better ...Try making the render all blacked out , I bet it looks way better.

[@Tony_in_AZ]

Positive displacement boost ... Pro Charger type device.

[@williamlo2976]

I think you need to photoshop in the triangular piece to see what it will really look like. The Avalanches and EXTs needed them not only for looks but also structural integrity.

[@jasonbuffington8067]

turbo 454 SAS suburban. forget the avalanche

[@ethan5.56]

Would be cool if you could make the split doors into the tailgate

[@CountryMileGarage]

The rear wheel well location between your suburban and the avalanche is the same set the pictures side by side you'll see it. It's the extra plastic in the back that makes the avalanche look the way it looks. Personaly I think it's easier to buy a avalanche and swap engine tranny and front clip but that's me lol