Major Problem with my Honda Civic 10th Gen OIL DILUTION Fuel Mixing Issue, No Warranty Fix Recall

[@joshuaewalker]

Scotty Kilmer suggests to switch to the new ILSAC GF-6B 0W-16 oils for the Honda 1.5L turbocharged engines to fix the oil dilution problem. That's what I did in my 2018 EX Hatch. No more gas smell in my oil and I can go back to oil changes at 6,000 miles.

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll look into that oil right now 👍

[@Chris-db9vt]

@@Sals_Garage let us know if it fixed it 🙏

[@Sals_Garage]

@@Chris-db9vt I’ll make a follow up video on the next oil change. 👍

[@schulumberger]

Which video did Scotty say this in? Can you link pls

[@joshuaewalker]

@@schulumberger He actually mentions it in several videos. He hasn't made a specific video talking about just this subject specifically. It more or less comes up in his bonus questions and answers at the end of his regular videos. But whenever somebody mentions having the 1.5L turbo he says to switch to the 0W-16. Apparently the 2.0L turbos are fine and don't have the oil dilution problem that the 1.5L turbos do.

[@decdragon]

I did a recent oil change on my roommate's 2017 Civic and noticed the old oil had that gasoline smell to it. Didn't know that this was a common issue on Civics. Thank you for making this video.

[@Sals_Garage]

No problem! Keep up with the oil changes and you'll be fine.

[@MichaelCzajka]

It's a problem on a whole heap of cars... not just Honda's. Even older cars can experience it. Idling a lot also makes the problem worse. :-)

[@Sals_Garage]

@@MichaelCzajka good to know

[@josegarza7719]

@@MichaelCzajkait’s common in other turbo engines as well but with these Honda ones it’s above normal

[@txmoney]

My 2018 EXT (bought new) currently has 121,300 miles averaging 34.1 mpg. All stock. No mods. No oil dilution issues so far. However, I still change the oil/filter early and often...between 3,800-4,200 miles. I rarely take short trips. I drive about 60% highway miles. I only use top-tier fuel. Love my 10th gen. With my aggressive maintenance, I hope to get at least 300k miles without repair on the engine, transmission, or turbo. 🙏

[@Sals_Garage]

Nice job! Thanks for sharing 🙏

[@krzysztofkosmowski940]

hello sorry for my angelic writing by translator. my civic 1.5turbo cvt is 148,500km, change oil +/- every 10-12kkm. 30% motorway 30% city the rest is a quiet route 90-100 km / h. oil consumption, there is no problem of dilution, also although the oil smells slightly like gasoline, I also sweep it to drive 300,000-350,000 kilometers. question for you what gearbox do you have manual, cvt? how many times do you replace the spark plugs? how many times do you replace the gasoline filter? did you replace the accessory belt and the water pump, if so, at what mileage? greetings Honda user!

[@Sals_Garage]

@@krzysztofkosmowski940 we have CVT, have not done any of those maintenance yet but hopefully soon. Thanks for the comment!

[@MG_MARC_MG]

@@krzysztofkosmowski940 z tego co widzę to w USA często zgłaszają problemy z tym tematem. Mowa o mieszaniu się paliwa z olejem. Drugim problemem jest pompa oleju która ma wadę konstrukcyjną. W Europie czytałem o pojedynczych przypadkach związanych z dostawaniem się paliwa do oleju. Nie jest to duży proceder. Mam znajomego który pracuje w ASO hondy krezel mówił ze u nich nie mieli takiego przypadku. Stoję właśnie przed zakupem hr v z takim silnikiem i waham się. Nie widzę innej alternatywy w postaci innego pojazdu o podobnych gabarytach. A cvt nie chce znać. Tylko manual.

[@krzysztofkosmowski940]

@@MG_MARC_MG w USA jedni zgłaszają problemy drudzy mają po 200tys 300tys,kms nalotu u nich to chyba bardziej zależy kto gdzie mieszka od klimatu no i jakie dzienne trasy robi. Ogólnie sam silnik myślę że jest bardzo trwałą konstrukcją u mnie jest prawie 149tys km auto mam od nowości nie ma problemu z pobieraniem oleju nie przybywa go choć po przejechaniu 10tys zapach benzyny jest! Żeby tak nie wyglądało to słodko to bez problemów się nie obyło był wymieniany wtrysk już po 25tys gwarancja poduszka silnika po 125tys już po gwarancji 400€ chociaż po demontażu wyglądała jak nowa to stukała! Zbliża mi się duży przegląd i musiałem podjąć decyzję czy zmieniać auto na nowe czy zostaje nadal przy tym niestety względy finansowe zmusiły mnie do tego że muszę nim dalej jeździć decyzją zapadła chcem nim pokonać kolejne 150tys. Ja osobiście polecam ten napęd jest bardzo dynamiczny oraz potrafi być oszczędny zejście że spalaniem poniżej 5 litry w spokojnej trasie nie stanowi żadnego problemu! Bolączki mojego egzemplarza to zapewne choroby początku produkcji. Gdybym miał dzisiaj podjąć decyzję o zakupie auta z tym napędem nie wahałbym się. Do skrzyni cvt nie będę nikogo przekonywał bo jest to wybór indiwidualny mogę tylko napisać że jest bardzo dobra 30% pokonanej trasy robię w zakorkowanym mieście więc wybór był dla mnie oczywisty a na autostradzie nie mam do niej żadnych zarzutów, jest bardzo płynnie i auto dobrze ciągnie!

[@ayayoutuber]

same, 70K mile 2017 civic sport, no dilution. always trip over 25-50 miles...no short trips. hot climate. switch to more dilute engine oil and it should block out the fuel during cold start and cold climate driving. I oil change at honda dealer every 5K miles so no idea what they are using now on civics.

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for sharing!

[@ImcaamYT]

I'm guessing it can also cause poor gas mileage? I bought a 2016 1.5t civic and though in highway I get around 45 mpg I barely get 24 in the city. I can smell the gas when I exit the car or when I smell the oil stick, bummer. Should I change my oil with a thicker one from now on and does the gf6 standard really help? Thanks everyone for sharing all the info 🙌

[@Sals_Garage]

Possibly it can cause poor mpg. Mine is not good either.

[@maximilianozamorategui2608]

My daughter has a 2015 and wants to upgrade with a 2019 but the 1.5 Turbo having this problem I think the 2.0 L Sport non Turbo will be a better safe choice. nice video, Hello from Vancouver Canada.

[@Sals_Garage]

The 2.0L engine is more reliable and still quick. Good luck with purchase 👍

[@gabrielgaribay2145]

All turbos have that problem. I had a 2016 Kia optima sx turbo I had a catch can and it was still getting oil dilution. Now I drive a 2020 honda civic sport 2.0L non turbo. I'll never get a car with a turbo again.

[@SarcasticComments23]

I would not be scared of this problem in the slightest

[@josegarza7719]

@@gabrielgaribay2145yes all turbos can do it but Hondas oil dilution is above normal

[@gabrielgaribay2145]

@josegarza7719 I agree I have oil dilution in my 2020 Honda civic sport. When I do my oil change I have my oil right at the full line, then I notice my oil level will rise. That's because Honda motors are direct Injection. I have a non turbo 2.0. My my oil level rises I take some of the old oil out and top it off with fresh oil but I might start doing my oil change every 3,000-4,000 miles instead of 5,000 miles. I use pennzoil ultra platinum full synthetic 0w20 and a wix XP oil filter.

[@filmmakerstudios]

This has been addressed on all models from the factory 2019 and beyond and prior years there was a recall that provided a software update and new AC parts free of charge plus an extended warranty for all affected vehicles. You should have Honda apply the fix to yours if the previous owner hasn’t. Also smelling the oil won’t provide an accurate reading of how badly diluted it is. You should send a sample to blackstone to see the actual percentage. Bare in mind a minute amount of bypass is normal because of how the engine works basically. On cold starts until the block warms up and the piston rings make a tight seal some drops may get by the cylinder walls. Driving the car for long enough after said cold start will evaporate the fuel from the oil pan.

[@Sals_Garage]

I know about that software update. Thanks for the info. As far as I know they program the engine to run warmer to evaporate any fluids that sneak into the oil. Sounds like a bandaid fix though. I’ll order a black stone analysis for the oil and update you all soon. Cheers

[@filmmakerstudios]

@@Sals_Garage with this issue aside this motor is solid sorry you’re having to still deal with it. Keep the content coming. Cheers

[@Sals_Garage]

@@filmmakerstudios will do thanks! Next up is Android head unit that is compatible with factory touring amp

[@carcez]

@@filmmakerstudios is there an article that backs this up? I can't find anything in the web.

[@filmmakerstudios]

@@carcez how Honda corporate handled this is public information. At least in the United States. You should be able to find records from an official source.

[@junixsk8]

I find it 1-2k miles a little too excessive, too soon. 3-4 i find it to be ideal. And always run the car in the morning before leaving to work, and that should be fine. Good tip on not reviewing it with cold engine, once on operating temps, you should be fine to "play"

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for the comment. We will change the oil every 3k miles to be safe. Take care!

[@carcez]

so the trick is to have the engine reached about operating temps?

[@Stormmaniac]

That's what I do to my 08 LX noticed this issue as well, but everywhere I drive is within a couple miles of me so I may have to take long drives every now and then to burn some of the gas out if this works?​@@Sals_Garage

[@Sals_Garage]

@@carcez yes, short trips are no good especially for this car.

[@timothylee2772]

​@@Sals_GarageWhat's the technical reasons why short trips often results in oil dilution for your turbo engine cars?

[@scottkramer481]

My wife has the 2016 EX-T and I have always changed the oil myself. I read about the dilution and decided to check for myself. I drained the oil and then added 3.7Qts with a new filter. I then emptied the used oil into an empty pennzoil gallon jug. I measured 4.2qts. This entire process was repeated after another 5000 miles and I got the exact same results. 4.2Qts of fluid came out of that engine. I called Honda and filed a claim. Long story short....I ended up at the Dealership where the claim to have reprogrammed the computer and then they changed the oil again. 5000 miles later, I changed the oil for the third time and measured the used fluid. Yep, 4.2qts again. Now I have to go back to the Dealership and have it done all over again. Meanwhile, my wife is driving around in a car with diluted oil. Oh, and I only have three more payments on the car.

[@Sals_Garage]

Thank you for sharing your story. I hope you can get the issue fixed soon. For a new car having big problems like this and the constant AC leaks, it’s been quite a headache to deal with. So far we have been driving with the dilution issue and just changing the oil more frequently without any issue yet 🤞

[@youtoobe169]

Carvana or vroom will give you big bucks for it.

[@markr.1984]

Holy cow! Reading some of these comments I find it hard to believe people aren't getting better gas mileage than they are reporting. I have the 2018 EXT manual 6 speed sedan and on a really hot summer day, I get as high as 48 mpg if I drive almost all interstate and over 200 miles. I'm talking Utah temps about 100F degrees and 80mph on the rural interstates, which is our rural speed limit. Of course in the winter the air density is thicker, taking more throttle to go the same speeds due to increased air resistance. So in the winter I only get about 39 to 42 mpg, depending on how gently I drive on the same interstate driving. I never drive pure city driving, at worse I'd call it mixed city/highway. Summer or winter mixed city/hwy I get around 34 to 37 mpg. The air density in that kind of driving matters far less since air resistance is negligible at slower than 50 mph speeds, so summer or winter temps don't matter much.

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for sharing 🙏

[@ALASBEATZ]

Seems like they had fixed the issue at the year of 2020. By rising a certain rpms on cold start and couple changes with the ECU. So far, it seems to be an issue still with these 1.5T engines. It does help but does NOT fix the issue.

[@Sals_Garage]

You’re right, the ECU update is not a fix, more like a bandaid. It also worsens MPG by making the engine run warmer. Still contemplating on updating or not 🤔

[@Humbletrader08]

its not, i have 2021 hatchback ex with 7000 miles on it, oil delution is so terrible

[@Sals_Garage]

@@Humbletrader08 damn, Honda seems to struggle with reliability this generation. The AC leaks, oil dilution, etc

[@jamesmedina2062]

@@Humbletrader08 once your engine is more fully broken-in you will have less problem. 3k OCI is good unless you take longer drives and then 4-5k not bad.

[@jamesmedina2062]

@@Sals_Garage the engine runs too cool and if you use NGK ruthenium plugs it should help with everything because its a better plug

[@Kagemusha320]

I have the 2018 FK7 and have had Zero issues with oil dilution. My hatch never had the dilution recall or any recalls attached to its VIN. The key it to not let your car idle to temp and to not rev high on cold engine. Do not take frequent short trips and if you do drive longer than 20 min atleast twice a week. I also change my oil every 4k-5k miles.

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for sharing, but I drive my Civic very safely during mornings to warm up properly. My daily commute to work is 1 hour each way (25 miles).

[@Kagemusha320]

@@Sals_Garage yeah idk then. you should't be having this issue with that long of a drive. what year is your Honda?

[@Sals_Garage]

@@Kagemusha320 2016 Civic Sedan Touring. First model year of 10th generation.

[@jedbriimc9879]

@@Sals_Garage what climate do you live in ??? Is it cold ?

[@Sals_Garage]

@@jedbriimc9879 California, weather here is very balanced.

[@johnfranklin5277]

Wow, that's just like water. No viscosity at all. Can't believe the engine doesn't seize, or have rod knock. Sad situation. I definitely wouldn't be driving that engine hard!! Good luck.

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for the comment. Yea it’s a hassle to change the oil so frequently but worth it for preventing engine damage.

[@johnfranklin5277]

@@Sals_Garage Honda should provide free oil changes to all turbo 1.5 engine owners every 2000 miles. Then they'd make sure to come up with a solution, or buy back all these cars. Its obvious they don't care about thier customers, but know so many people think they are awesome, they will sell cars no matter what.

[@Sals_Garage]

@@johnfranklin5277 I’m all for that idea 😆

[@foxtrot312]

"Rod"knock on overhead cam?

[@richsweeney1115]

These newer cars, and newer oils you can go to 5k on oil changes, with the right oil. 3 k mile oil changes aren't normal anymore though

[@Sals_Garage]

Good to know. Thanks 👍

[@johnfranklin5277]

Did you see how watery the oil is?????

[@bruceskousen5451]

@@johnfranklin5277the oil is “watery” because it’s 0-20, 0 weight at room temp.

[@noroar3258]

honda changed my oil in dec on my 2020 crv and the invoice breakdown shows they used 4 quarts ; not 3.7 as they were supposed to . so they are adding wrong amount of oil at the dealership from the get go already

[@Sals_Garage]

Probably. We do our own oil changes just to be sure.

[@luckyyu2004]

Its fine as long as you change the oil following the MM reminder. Fuel in the engine oil is normal because of the direct injection. I drove a 2017 Hatchback for 5 years. Amazing car. get 40mpg on the hwy

[@Sals_Garage]

Yea great car for sure! Just hate the unreliable AC that leaks a lot 😆

[@Joshua-i7l4i]

I just got a 2018 hatch exl at 17.4k miles… I hope no isses for mine too😢

[@TheHuckHD]

Redesigned 1.5 in the 2022 Civics made this an issue of the past. Make sure you run 91 octane this eliminates the oil dilution

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for the info 🙏

[@1stinlastout165]

Never had a problem in my 2018 ?

[@reggierizaev]

This a result of the direct injection, its not a problem. I have Honda Jazz GK5 with 1.5 naturally aspirated engine and it has the same oil dilution. It makes the oil as water , so i switched to 5W30 A3/B4 oil, and i am changing it every 5000km (3000miles) or 4-5 months. This way, even if the oil gets a bit thinner it will get as the recommended 0W20. I installed an oil catch can as well.

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for the advice 👍

[@douglasmichel1000]

Sal what year is your Civic ? I have 20K on my 2019 Accord LX that I purchased certified used a year ago. I am beginning to believe that the days of Honda lasting 300K are over. The emissions requirements given to manufacturers via our government is forcing them to deal with the impossible. No one is building cars as well as they did 20 years ago. I am 64 and have owned several Honda products over the years .

[@Sals_Garage]

I agree with you for sure. Our civic is 2016 with 90000 miles.

[@douglasmichel1000]

@@Sals_Garage Sal check if Honda extended the warranty to your vehicle. I have read about people getting new engines but we cannot believe everything that we hear. Best of luck. You have a really good channel and I just subscribed

[@Sals_Garage]

@@douglasmichel1000 thank you! Will check into it for sure.

[@1stinlastout165]

Regular oil change every 5000 to 6000 under normal use and fully sinthetic. I find if you check the dip stick by simply smelling it for any petrol I find will tell you to change, saying that my 2018 turbo as never had this issue as yet!

[@Sals_Garage]

Good to know. Thanks for sharing!

[@jedbriimc9879]

How many miles has it done??

[@1stinlastout165]

@@jedbriimc9879 38.000

[@jedbriimc9879]

@@1stinlastout165 kind of makes sense apparently the real problems start at about 60

[@1stinlastout165]

@@jedbriimc9879 only if oil changes aren't done within every 12 months,I think the biggest problems we have here is the E10 petrol for all makes of cars!

[@TheSmileyTek]

Just bought a 2019 Civic Si with 24K miles, noticed the oil level was high. Changed the oil and noticed the gas smell. What a bummer. At least I have Amsoil in there now. This is ridiculous. Very frustrating. Guess I'll drive it for 2 years and get rid of it. Should've did better research before buying it, I guess.

[@Sals_Garage]

I’m disappointed as well, but it is what it is. Just gotta change the oil more frequently.

[@danielsong1323]

i really love the turbo noise on the 1.5t. But I have the option to buy a 2.0 what should I do?

[@Sals_Garage]

They are both great! Tough to choose. Reliability is probably a bit better for the 2.0 and it has a better exhaust sound.

[@Trump985]

Is you thermostat stuck open? Gasoline should evaporate out of the oil in a short time once the oil temperature comes up. I’m wondering if your thermostat is stuck and your engine is never warming up fully? We used to add a gallon of gas to our diesels in the cold weather (-40F or worse) to thin out the oil. By the time the engine warmed up the gas had evaporated and the oil was back to full viscosity. Obviously with modern oils we don’t need to do this anymore.

[@Sals_Garage]

Possible, I’ll check it out soon.

[@dp01]

Does anyone know why Honda does not make this car with a 2.OL turbo charged engine so that it does not have this oil dilution problem?

[@Sals_Garage]

Good question.

[@jimwillingham8052]

If you have a 1.5 turbo engine in your Honda, sell it immediately. Once people find out about this problem, the car's price will plummet. Never buy a Honda with this engine, even if it is new. If people would just wake up and stop buying these cars with this engine, Honda would discontinue making this engine.

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Val_tini.]

Is it normal for EX-T w. 102k miles to only get 25mpg city driving? Changed spark plugs and cleaned MAF sensor with no progress.

[@Sals_Garage]

Yes, I get 29-30 mpg with mostly highway driving. 93k miles.

[@fald33]

Hi guys! I live in Brazil and haven't heard of this oil dilution problem here yet, only in USA and Europe, maybe it is not a BIG problem since we have warmer weather and only a small part of our territory (southern region) has an european-like weather. I have a few questions: 01. Are you guys aware of this oil dilution problem occurring in other Honda engines? The L15B DOHC naturally aspirated with direct injection is my biggest concern. Honda City and Honda HRV both use naturally aspirated L15B with direct injection here; L15B7 (turbo) equips Civic, HRV, CRV and Accord. Maybe this issue does not occur in Honda engines with indirect injection due to the lower pressure at which fuel is injected inside the combustion chamber. 02. Which oil does your Honda engine require? In Brazil all new Honda gasoline engines use 0W20 fully synthetic oil; is there any country where another oil grade is used? A few years ago 10W30 mineral oil was recommended for all Honda models.

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for sharing! Looking forward to more responses from others.

[@metzmatu8409]

Alternative to 0W20 is 5W30 for honda engine L15A & L15B as per user manual.

[@Sals_Garage]

@@metzmatu8409 good to know 👍

[@MichaelCzajka]

Ethanol fuels appear to make the fuel dilution problem worse e.g. It was only when my car started using E10 (10% ethanol) that the fuel dilution problem started. N.B. Stopping the E10 saw the fuel dilution decrease. Flushing the engine out with a product called "Ring Free" helped as well. Had exactly the same problem except worse (used E10 for longer) on my sister's car i.e. Started using oil despite the mechanic being unable to find a cause. Flushing out the engine stopped the oil use. We presume that the rings got gummed up. 🙂

[@Sals_Garage]

Good info. Thanks for sharing 🙏

[@MichaelCzajka]

Here's what we worked out happened: Burning ethanol creates oxidised byproducts. The oxidised byproducts polymerise into a sticky goo which gums up your engine. The rings in particular gum up and don't seal properly. That's why more fuel ends up in your sump and dilutes the oil. 🙂

[@Sals_Garage]

@@MichaelCzajka so Honda can’t seem to make reliable engines and AC for the 10th gen Civic sadly.

[@rogerhoke3103]

Basically the same problem that I have. Unfortunately no more Hondas for me in the way that they've handled this issue. This all started because of them using GDI injection instead of the multipoint FI

[@Sals_Garage]

Sorry to hear. What car do you think you will get next?

[@rogerhoke3103]

@@Sals_Garage Everything's too expensive. Just gotta hang on.

[@Sals_Garage]

@@rogerhoke3103 I understand

[@rogerhoke3103]

@@Sals_Garage Well it's hard to say Sal I wish we could go back to the days of the 2000 Honda's when everything was multi-point and you didn't have to worry about all of the issues that GDI brings along with rings sticking due to them now making them low tension on the oil control rings making cars burn oil prematurely I honestly think that it's planned obsolescence. What do you think would be the best thing to get if a person had to buy a new car now that wouldn't be subject to falling apart at 80,000 mi Thanks, Roger

[@Sals_Garage]

@@rogerhoke3103 totally agree. Thanks for sharing. 🙏 As for car recommendations I don’t really have that much knowledge of other cars to share my experience from. Hopefully others can chime in.

[@eliseypoo9]

“That stings the nostrils and smells like pure gasoline.” 😂😂

[@Sals_Garage]

😂 Anchorman FTW

[@ZElkin8]

even if you have oil dillution most of dealership wont do anything about it

[@Sals_Garage]

It’s unfortunate

[@vandanab4893]

Thanks for this info. Did an analysis a couple weeks ago and received an alert for elevated fuel dilution at 2.78%. Got a 2017 civic doing 43,500 miles. I live in a tropical country with temps ranging between 92-96F, have only used fuel with 95 octane and synthetic engine oils (5w30). Vehicle has been changed as recommended by the OEM. I think my problem is related to reduced commute. I'm only driving around 10 miles daily and the engine isn't reaching proper operating temperature. I sent my oil analysis report and heading into the dealership this week. Will be interesting to see how much oil is drained from the sump and hoping they won't charge me extra for some crazy fixes. Looks like I'll have to reduce my oil interval change out to fix the problem.

[@Sals_Garage]

Yes so far I have been changing oil more often and haven’t had issues yet 🤞

[@sunnohh]

Make sure the oil hits 201f or more, boils the water off

[@ulrichwillems6072]

Are you using a thicker oil or the recommended by Honda?

[@Sals_Garage]

Slightly thicker 5w20

[@uhhh684]

Where did you get that quart pan?

[@Sals_Garage]

amzn.to/3tvvm7h

[@crystalespinoza9519]

My 2019 crv ex took it twice and dealer said they fixed the issue but not, I have to change the oil when is 70% It's dark and strong gasoline smell

[@Sals_Garage]

Hope your problem is fixed for sure.

[@kg_1720]

Just do your oil changes more often, there is no fix to this issue, the cylinders are small enough and with a turbocharger and a direct injection fuel injection, this causes oil dilution, to fix this issue, an engine teardown is required, maybe replace the piston rings with something better in terms of separating fuel from oil. What I do is I just change my oil often like 3000-5000 km is enough to avoid severe wear. And Honda claims they fix the issue by making the cars idle higher, so when they recalled the cars, the Honda techs, all they did was just update the car’s computer (ECU) to make the engine idle higher on cold starts.

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for the detailed info 👍

[@drivewayhero]

Did you buy it before you knew about these issues or found out later about it? Would you buy it again if you could go back in time?

[@Sals_Garage]

Yes I bought it when under warranty three years ago. Since then the AC leaked twice and this issue shown up as well. Still love the car as a daily driver. 👍

[@FLYYGUYY]

This was a quick oil change is there anything else i would need to do after the oil change i have a 2020 civic and i think there sort of a reset on the odometer??

[@Sals_Garage]

We have a video on how to reset the odometer for oil changes here 👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWGsmolvYtprbpo

[@Tintoycar]

Do the European Civics also have this problem?

[@Sals_Garage]

Good question for the European owners, hopefully they can chime in. Good luck 👍

[@yousifghaz]

Actually there is no fix. Problem persists with the crv and civic even after the software update. I have Accord 2018 1.5t, honda did not included accrd with the fix. I just chnge the oil every 2000 to 2500 miles. Sometimes earlier. I am surprised how honda kept this faulty engine in their new generation honda cars.

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for sharing. That’s sad to hear.

[@raptorpome2577]

Have you tried adding liquid Molly engine flush ..... Then rev the engine to 2000 RPM for 15 minutes and then empty all the old oil out remove the old oil filter..... Then fit new oil filter and refill with New oil 0W16 then monitor it to see if it cures the problem

[@Sals_Garage]

I have not. Good tip, thx for sharing.

[@merope100]

Are these oil dilution issues only happening with Honda civics with the turbo engine? Are the lx models without a turbo having these issues?

[@Sals_Garage]

Yes just the turbo models.

[@cliffweinan3907]

Not much viscosity left in drained oil, at least you won't be having oil gel and sludge problems.

[@Sals_Garage]

Yea, thanks for sharing 🙏

[@Max_ellis74]

It’s just because you have gdi which the 1.5 has. Just do your oil changes a lot and you’ll be fine

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks

[@WHJr-p1g]

Did you ever try switching to the new gf 6 oil? And if so did you go with 0w 16 gf b or stay with 0w 20 gf a?

[@Sals_Garage]

Haven’t tried it yet. Have a link? I’ll do it next oil change.

[@WHJr-p1g]

@@Sals_Garage unfortunately dont have a link. i have a 2016 ext coupe and am noticing some slight oil dillution. i started running shell vpower premium and doing my oil changes at 3000 miles. i really love the car and it does still drive like a dream even with the dillution issue. i have been researching it and a lot of people are switching to the gf 6 oil and claiming no issues. some use the 0w16 gf6b and others are using the 0w20gf6a oil and they both seem to be getting good rsults! im nervous going to the 0w16 so i think i am going to try the gf6a 0w20 pure synthetic from mobil !

[@Sals_Garage]

@@WHJr-p1g thanks for sharing. I’m gonna search for that oil soon.

[@arthurmiller8336]

What year cars are having the problem s

[@Sals_Garage]

2016-2021

[@adrianpavel9740]

what is a quart? in liters how much?

[@Sals_Garage]

1 quart is 0.95 liters.

[@zydomason]

@@Sals_Garage why do americans need to complicate everything so much?

[@Sals_Garage]

@@zydomason good question 😆 🤔

[@theunbroken7678]

I suggest a air / oil separater

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for the tip 👍

[@Humbletrader08]

bro im having an oil delution coz i live here in iowa andits winter now with my new civic 2021 and i have warranty, what are they gonna do about it? how can they fix it

[@Sals_Garage]

Sorry to hear that. I heard they update the ecu computer to fix the issue, but it seems like more of a band aid fix. Hope you can get it resolved

[@jamesmedina2062]

it all depends on how much (oil dilution). How much is it? How many miles on vehicle? What oil exactly?

[@bruceskousen5451]

@@handycap9815haha! I wouldn’t call it junk. There are 2018s with over 150,000 miles and zero engine/transmission problems. Toyota is moving to smaller engines with turbos and direct injectors too. They are also moving to CVT transmissions because of the government emissions mandates.

[@radudanieliacob2088]

Do thew 2019 civic still have this issue?

[@Sals_Garage]

Unfortunately yes, but you can get a software update for the ECU to supposedly fix it.

[@radudanieliacob2088]

@@Sals_Garage I'm in EU ..Austria to be more specific and there is a civic 2019 with only 22 k Km for sale at 17 k Euro...It is listed on honda website as authorized dealer and it is coming with some warranty and etc. But i am sceptical a little because is kinda low price and usually at deasler the cars arent cheap :)

[@Sals_Garage]

@@radudanieliacob2088 sounds like a good deal if it comes with warranty too.

[@stevanallen2824]

Anyone if the same problems arise with the 1.0 VTEC engine?

[@Sals_Garage]

Not sure 🤔

[@stevanallen2824]

@@Sals_Garage do you know if the 1.0 VTEC engine is any good on the honda civic?

[@Sals_Garage]

@@stevanallen2824 sorry not familiar with that one.

[@stevanallen2824]

@@Sals_Garage how can a 1.0 engine be any good for any car...🥴

[@Sals_Garage]

@@stevanallen2824 😆 I know right lol

[@JermsDNA]

Dang crazy I didn't know this type of thing happened.

[@Sals_Garage]

Yea crazy! Might be on the lookout for a new daily driver vehicle 😆

[@JermsDNA]

@@Sals_Garage OOooOh Abarth?

[@Sals_Garage]

@@JermsDNA we want one for sure! Just waiting for a good deal 😊

[@nood1ez]

i just noticed on my car too bro, what was the mileage on your car in this video and when did you start noticing it?

[@Sals_Garage]

60k miles. I am at 85k now

[@nood1ez]

@@Sals_Garage i see, i just hit 37k. I read down in the comments to try a ultra plus oil. Lets hope that works. Good luck man.

[@Sals_Garage]

@@nood1ez Good luck to you as well. I just change my oil more frequently.

[@johnrodriguez1145]

How would honda fix such a problem?

[@Sals_Garage]

Bandaid fix with software update.

[@anthonyaceespanola7009]

Hi I have a 2017 hatch back sport 1.5l and I didn’t know about this oil dilution problem till this last month when I brought my civic for a product update to a dealership after the update for some reason I would smell the raw fuel I didn’t really mind it till my car would act up and sounds like it was struggling and I did. My research about it found out about the oil dilution problems on civics and I went check my oil level it’s quite high. At this point what’s the best thing should I do? And the car has 90000km on it right now

[@Sals_Garage]

Have Honda update the software for the ECU to address the problem.

[@anthonyaceespanola7009]

@@Sals_Garage I’ve already got that done and after that all the symptoms got worse lol

[@Sals_Garage]

@@anthonyaceespanola7009 damn sorry to hear, at that point I would just change the oil more frequently and avoid short trips.

[@anthonyaceespanola7009]

Do I need to pre heat my car I live in Canada I usually just leave it running to warm up for about 15 mins then I would use it . Would u recommend running it on park to warm it up?

[@Sals_Garage]

@@anthonyaceespanola7009 not a bad idea

[@Kdubz_Auto_HVAC]

Its sad that Honda is really going downhill man with their reliability......ill never sell my 2008 fg2 its heavily modified and still running strong at 210k miles. Lots of preventative maintenance though.

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for sharing! Yea pretty bummed about Honda’s lack of support with common known issues too.

[@Kdubz_Auto_HVAC]

@@Sals_Garage i know! I was going to get one of the new Si's because power is so plentiful with small mods and a tune but the fuel dilution and direct injection sludge is just too much for me.

[@scrappydogfinance8434]

YOUR SUCH A NICE KID... BUT THE GAS IS BLOWING PAST YOUR PISTON RINGS AND ITS DUE TO THE DIRECT INJECTION FUEL SYSTEM... THE FUEL INJECTORS ARE BLOWING EXCESS FUEL INTO CYLINDERS AND WASHING OUT THE RINGS AND INTO THE OIL PAN

[@Sals_Garage]

Thx for the info

[@no-wing7229]

people that only knows to drive is affected with the oil thing. Gas premium every 5k miles change oil no excuses . shell rotella 0w-20 ..

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for sharing 🙏

[@digitalcamaraderie5685]

It is not problem with 2.0 engine honda civic 2016-2018?

[@Sals_Garage]

I have not heard of it since it’s probably because it’s naturally aspirated with no turbo.

[@phiNjustin]

D16 b18 k20 never had this issue

[@Sals_Garage]

You’re absolutely right. New design comes with new problems it seems

[@monkito69]

Is this fixed for the 11th gen 1.5 civics?

[@Sals_Garage]

That I don't know, but I hope they would have fixed it by now.

[@eduardolazalde8178]

My dude I change it every 2500 to 3000 miles with amsoil signature series. Fucking worth it. Expensive but ain't no headache tell you that much

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks bro! I’ll try that 👍

[@Iceekwm87]

Change the fuel injectors and fuel joint pipe.. that's what we do at honda...

[@Sals_Garage]

Good to know. Thanks 🙏

[@elelael1]

We thanks for the info bro...😀 But are you sure that make the problem away ??? What injectors must put and what fuel pipe ?? Thanks again for the info.... from Greece.

[@Maplecook]

Low tension piston rings, man. No thanks. I'm stickin' with my trusty D16A6.

[@Sals_Garage]

Good choice. Thanks for sharing 👍

[@Maplecook]

@@Sals_Garage 33 years, and counting. Barring theft or a crash, I'm never letting this car go.

[@Sals_Garage]

@@Maplecook wow, impressive 👏

[@jplc5889]

Hi, I'm from another country "Panama" and I saw your channel, my country is extremely hot and has a variable climate, "deeply tropical". I want to get a manual SI 2018 Coupe that has 14 km (I think it would be something more than 8000 miles) that is the same as yours, but that "oil dilution" thing is the first time I hear it and this is going to be my first Honda in life, I come from a Kia Picanto and a Hyundai Tucson, therefore I know ZERO about Honda and this calls my attention a lot. The questions -In hot climates the problem is the same? -Is it a good or bad engine? Greetings and I leave you my like and subscription.

[@Sals_Garage]

Hi! In hot climates you shouldn’t have to worry about this problem.

[@danielbellucci630]

is not a big issue, because is a high compression engine with cold weather gas by pass the cylinder on cold engine. , install a catch can and every oil change use 3 Qts of 0w-20 and 1 Qt of 5w 20. problem solve. only in the winter time

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for your input 👍

[@jamesmedina2062]

the gasoline also coats cylinders when cold.

[@Sals_Garage]

@@jamesmedina2062 interesting fact. Thanks 🙏

[@neonperry5365]

What is ur gas mileage my si is modified too and I can’t get above 26.9

[@Sals_Garage]

We average about 30 mpg with 80% freeway driving.

[@jackanderson2773]

I dumped my turbo si because the oil smelled of gas . My 07 was better in every way .

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for sharing! 🙏

[@jackanderson2773]

@@Sals_Garage Thanks Sal 👍

[@Sals_Garage]

@@jackanderson2773 Anytime!

[@SarcasticComments23]

Had this problem for 235,000 miles on a SI tuned and nothing has happened 😂 people over react.

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for sharing. Keep changing your oil frequently.

[@SarcasticComments23]

@@Sals_Garage I just wouldn’t worry about it.👍🏼

[@Sals_Garage]

@@SarcasticComments23 respect 👊

[@richsweeney1115]

I hate that most new cars are automatics ... different topic...but I wouldn't want a new Honda partially because of that

[@Sals_Garage]

I hear ya. The CVT is very boring. I wish I had the manual version.

[@richsweeney1115]

@@Sals_Garage butz I do love Honda, my wife's got an orange 09 fit sport 5 spd, it's got 200k on it right now , all its needed had been regular maintenance, and a cu couple wear and tear things, like tie rod ends and stabilizer links. Car runs and drives perfect , oh I had to replace the battery , in December and I think it was the original battery. I couldn't believe that little battery was 150 bucks at Walmart though. Crazy.

[@chrisnichter9895]

Love my 6sp 2015 Accord Sport.

[@Sals_Garage]

@@chrisnichter9895 I’m jealous of the 6 speed manual. The CVT is so boring 😆

[@chrisnichter9895]

@@Sals_Garage Lol they are fun! And super reliable!

[@Kagemusha320]

Also, Honda states that this car takes 4qts after an oil drain and filter replacement. so not sure where you're getting your 3.7qt data from. my FK7 has been consistent with close to 4qts with dipstick level at the perfect level, even after 5k miles. this oil dilution problem was only an issue for cold climates, such as areas where it snows, etc.

[@Sals_Garage]

The previous oil change before that was near 5 quarts. The oil has a strong smell of fuel as well. It is a very real issue that Honda is trying to bandaid with a software fix that makes the engine run hotter on purpose. Mix that with the unreliable AC system and It makes me not want to get another Honda again.

[@Kagemusha320]

@@Sals_Garage Its just weird that everyone else is having these issues with thier Hondas and I am not. My oil level is consistant, my oil never smelled or smells of gas, I've never had a gas smell in the cabin and my oil drains, when measured, are consistant. This almost leads me to belive it can also be a quality control issues from factory with the engines. My 2018 FK7 has had Zero recalls or TSBs. not even the faulty fuel pump recall that most FK7's and FK8's had. but only time will tell I guess. With that said though, I have adapted my habbits as much as possible to avoid the oil dilution issue, which honestly should not be a thing. And when I got my FK7 new I followed the break in period religiously. so idk.

[@Sals_Garage]

@@Kagemusha320 I’m very happy you haven’t had any issues so far. How about your AC? That one seems more common of a problem.

[@Kagemusha320]

@@Sals_Garage AC blows cold. Altohugh I've noticed the airflow is pretty weak on these FK7's. Although on really warm days it does take a couple minutes to blow really cold but that seems kind of ligical with a sun baked car. My fiances sedan however had a low AC charge from factory. The dealership determined this and charged her AC for free.

[@Sals_Garage]

@@Kagemusha320 thanks for sharing! 🙏

[@paulmalone1208]

Kia also same problem

[@Sals_Garage]

Hope you can fix it soon. Good luck 👍

[@paulmalone1208]

Regular oil change notting else

[@Sals_Garage]

@@paulmalone1208 good plan

[@nrich5127]

Do more research on the internet - I read somewhere - Start using non ethanol grade of gas + software upgrade from Honda dealer is supposed to solve this issue.

[@Sals_Garage]

Done those already, still same issue.

[@markr.1984]

I use almost all ethanol free gas but I still have the oil smelling like gas. I can only get ethanol free here in Utah at 87 octane at best. Would like 88 or 89 octane if I could get it.

[@NOMONEY2EAT]

That's why get a 2L not 1.5 garbage

[@Sals_Garage]

Sound advice.

[@jmed753]

Fuel and oil don't mix and any dilution will jeopardize the oils protective characteristics. This is why gdi is not meant to be reliable but rather more fuel efficient and meet stricter EPA regulations. It's the governments fault not honda lol. JP

[@Sals_Garage]

Good point 😆 thx for sharing.

[@uhhh684]

And that oil filter adapter lol

[@Sals_Garage]

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[@JesusIsLord7773]

Love your shirt 😂

[@Sals_Garage]

Salamat 😆

[@MichaelCzajka]

You can eliminate the risk of catastrophic engine failure by improving lubrication to the engine: Bond a lubricant to the metal of the engine #XcelPlus 🙂

[@Sals_Garage]

How so

[@ivdubgti]

Honda says this is normal operation. LOL

[@Sals_Garage]

LOL, of course they say that to their loyal customers

[@jamfoxs]

Like the shirt lol sucks about your Honda though. The L15B engine is not as good of a platform to do some serious modding based from what have seen so far

[@Sals_Garage]

Yea I have returned to stock for the mpg and reliability. Better for the CVT in the long term as well. It’s just a daily so we don’t need the extra power.

[@GF-mf7ml]

2017 Honda 1.5L owner be like

[@Sals_Garage]

Yessir

[@Fractal_blip]

Thats sad tbh.

[@Sals_Garage]

Yea 😢

[@Mabeylater293]

Sue Honda.

[@Sals_Garage]

Too much work, I’ll leave that to a lawyer 👍

[@shoryukensaucealtaccount7971]

👍🏼

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks for the comment Will. 👍

[@clgdswr]

You have no idea what your talking about, get ase certified before wasting my time

[@Sals_Garage]

Go on and explain it better if you can. I am just talking about my experience.

[@clgdswr]

@@Sals_Garage oil dilution is not a Honda issue,it's a GDI Issue and it's caused by ring blow by all things you missed with your comments, a ecu reflash which changes how the injector spray pattern is introduced into the cylinders can greatly reduce blow by,25 year master mechanic talking not a KZbinr diy douche

[@Sals_Garage]

@@clgdswr thanks for the explanation. You’re the one sounding like a douche btw 👍

[@clgdswr]

Sorry for the douche comment I was out of line and feel bad for that

[@Sals_Garage]

@@clgdswr thanks again for the feedback and info

[@CarlsGarage1]

very professional work Sal! Maybe time for M6

[@Sals_Garage]

Thanks Carl! M6 isn’t a good daily driver unfortunately 😆

[@domzcollesso9070]

I suspect you live in a cold country cause I live in Jamaica and don't really have that issue

[@Sals_Garage]

California, not too hot or cold