👀 Make the Call: Basketball Officiating Deep Dive 🏀

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[@lt_dans__leggs573]

Play 1 was a definite foul on the defense. The Lead's responsible for secondary defenders on the drive that originated from the Trail.

[@RobertGee-e8o]

Play one is definitely a foul on The Defender as he went up and he went through the the play and committed a foul while the player falls down on the offensive player Falls on the Court

[@cptfwiffo]

Play one: with my collegue having the best view of the entire action, I would trust him. Calling it from a big distance, I wouldn't easily call it unless I saw pushes in the back where I as a trail had vision. I do FIBA, though, so the secondary would also be for the lead.

[@luisvillarroel5978]

Play 4 and play 5 are great to see on film. Thanks for play 4 and play 5 which are plays rarely seen or encountered. Thanks to your broadcast they are now etched in my mind and will prepare me better for that day which may happen in my game.

[@cptfwiffo]

play two: i wonder. Defender was legal, but he hopped forward. I *think* the offensive player was not in-flight yet, but that is how close it was.

[@darwinsanada8309]

Play #2 Block by defender

[@lt_dans__leggs573]

The defender in Play 2 is allowed to turn or "brace" for contact. The Trail should had had a whistle! Charge on the play!

[@jaredluczynski3301]

First thing I saw was an illegal screen or holding by what looks to be number 7 on play #1. I would think a charge on play #2.

[@darwinsanada8309]

Charge... defender had established LGP prior to contact...

[@vincentjack735]

2 and 3 are an either way call as i see it

[@tomlehman6701]

#3 - Obvious charge

[@jordanbritton4962]

Play #4: I thought there was contact on the left arm of the offensive player, causing him to miss the dunk (he seems to think so as well, as he's gesturing after the play that that's what happened). With no foul call, definitely a technical. Though, I'm sure he'd feel quite hard done-by if he was the one who got fouled, and assumed a whistle was about to be called, and then the sequence unfolded as it did, as in his mind the play should've been dead when he did this illegal act, and then he's the one hit with a technical.

[@lt_dans__leggs573]

Play 3 would have been a "No" call from me. I see a charge on the play. Did the official get a good "look" at the defender? We are always refereeing the defense and see the offense.

[@lt_dans__leggs573]

On Play 4 - why do we need a "conference" on a simple basket interface? Did one of them want "hanging on the rim"? I love that the crew decided that basket interference was the call. I know that it is a player technical, but I wouldn't have called it on this play, but that's my call.

[@BetterOfficials]

Well you're getting yourself into a predicament there because it's clearly not basket interference by rule and it is clearly a player technical foul by rule so setting aside one rule and applying another that is inappropriate is its own sticky wicket.

[@fromtheoutside]

Play #1: While I think the defender starts fairly straight, his big arm swing causes his momentum to veer into the shooter, and once he brings his arms down, he is no longer in his cylinder (FIBA), then he would be responsible for any contact. The bigger concern would be that both officials are watching the ball, and the trail is following and wandering with the ball and turning his back on half the court; if he just works the area between the 10-foot volleyball line, the 3-point arc, the sideline, and stays open to the play that would be better. Play #2: As I said in the live chat: just because he "turtles" doesn't make it a block. For those unfamiliar, "turtling" is a hockey term for those unwilling to fight, or for those who give up rather quickly. Play #3: Should have been a PCF, but the new trail made the call much more difficult because he wandered off the baseline watching the ball; just stay put in the corner and don't creep off the baseline. When he is surprised by the steal, he's now following the offensive player and there's no way the defender isn't going to look like she's the one moving forward. Play #4: This would just be basket interference for me in FIBA. Though, I am not sure how the officials didn't get the call correct🤔 Even when I officiated using NFHS in high school, we always knew this was a "T". Play #5: Possible basket interference if the ball is within the rim and touched by the defence, but if the ball was just on the rim, then it would be a legal play by #15 White to swipe it away. However, since the ball entered the basket when #15 attempted to knock it away, it would count as a 2-point field goal since the FT had ended once it touched the rim. In order to be considered goaltending a FT, a player must contact the ball before it touches the rim.

[@BetterOfficials]

I love "turtles". It is such an apt description!

[@djsideeye564]

For me play 3 looked like a charge in real time, but I think when you slow it down the defender is still moving their body toward the shooter after the shooter goes airborne. Thoughts? My understanding is that movement into the path of an airborne shooter should be a block foul

[@cptfwiffo]

3rd play: interesting. In FIBA, it would be a violation, not a technical. But which violation? Probably illegal use of equipment.

[@kenneaderhiser7768]

Play 4: 14:44 When the ball contacts the ring a second time on outside of the ring, is there a possibility the crew ruled that basket interference before the technical as you have a player contacting the ring with ball also in contact with rim. It wasn’t just a straight missed dunk deflected off ring then reach. It was missed dunk, second touch of ball on ring gain advantage with reach. Splitting hairs, but could that have been the actual ruling?

[@BetterOfficials]

Word from the crew on this was they ruled it illegal and then were uncertain of the administration (goaltending a free throw vs just basket interference)

[@TreyThatGuy]

Play 1 is a blocking foul. The player tried going for the ball and in the process made contact with the player with his body.

[@rastiaf]

Is play 2 college game? Why officials wear college shirt?

[@BetterOfficials]

Across the country, different states and groups use all sorts of shirts for High School.

[@tomlehman6701]

#5 - what's the problem? Did the crew not adjudicate the play properly? They called a T, administered the shots and awarded the ball properly, no? BTW, are we completely sure the ball was still in the cylinder?

[@BetterOfficials]

The ruling should have been Basket Interference. No technical.

[@gregoneil9767]

How many points would you award for team A? 1 or 2?@@BetterOfficials

[@courierguygreg]

Basket Interference by the opponent on a 1 point try for goal? 1 point.@@gregoneil9767

[@BetterOfficials]

Basket Interference on a 1 point try for goal? 1 point!@@gregoneil9767

[@gregoneil9767]

Are we also awarding 3 points on basket interference on 3 point try for goals? @@BetterOfficials​

[@uglycouzin]

On play two the defender is moving toward the offensive player. He even does a little two footed hop to go toward the offensive player as he is in the upward shooting motion. Thoughts?

[@ReffyRef]

The rule isn't about upward shooting motion, it's about when the shooter becomes airborne. 23 definitely establishes a LGP before the shooter jumps. @betterofficials I am still ruling this a block ONLY because 23 falls back before the contact, causing the contact to occur on the shooters legs (penalized because this action can lead to injury). If 23 had held his ground, this is a charge by rule.

[@BetterOfficials]

Yup. But by NFHS rules, it is not upward shooting motion, but rather when the offensive player leaves the floor. Green 23 beats him to that.

[@bobp6164]

1st year official so be nice....:) In play one, if #23 is in a LGP why is this a block?

[@BetterOfficials]

Hi Bob! I believe you are referring to Play #2 where Green #23 turns to avoid. My point here is the actions of the defender here are legal by the letter of the rule, but in the real world, I would contend that this will virtually ALWAYS be called a block.

[@oscarlocklin5458]

Play 3 - 10:30: I have a travel before the first goal

[@AndrewLadnerRealEstate]

Agreed. Missed the little hop before 2 additional steps. Good catch Oscar.

[@ReffyRef]

Greg, for Play 4, I have a defensive basketball interference on black before the shooter plays the ball while hanging on the rim (FIBA rules). The shot blocker on the dunk attempt clearly contacts the net/mesh while the ball is in contact with the rim. In FIBA, this is a violation and the basket counts - is it the same with NFHS?

[@fromtheoutside]

If you slow it down, you can see when the defensive player contacts the mesh the ball is still in the shooter's hands for the dunk attempt, so basket interference can't apply yet. Also, I don't think it had much of an effect on the dunk attempt since the ball hit the far side of the rim and was moving away from the rim, which is what led to the offensive basket interference. So, it didn't prevent the ball from entering the basket either; however, if it did, then a late whistle wouldn't be a bad thing. Yes, the rule is the same for FIBA and NFHS.

[@tomlehman6701]

Should be basket interference on Black #1. He grabbed the net before all the other sheniagans

[@ReffyRef]

@@fromtheoutside Man, I looked at it in slow-mo and it is so close! Thanks for the reply