Why aren't you using DIN Rails for everything? | 3D Printer Test Bench

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@MsJellyfan
@MsJellyfan 3 жыл бұрын
In Germany we use them in many kinds of electrical installation (house / industrial) special click system mounting, there are all kinds of components and devices for it. They are called Hut Schienen ( hat rails ) because the profile looks like a hat (front view). Greetings from a kind automation technician in South Germany
@mbunds
@mbunds 3 жыл бұрын
Germany produces all of my favorite industrial control products. They cost more than domestic products, but it’s always worth the cost.
@MsJellyfan
@MsJellyfan 3 жыл бұрын
@@mbunds great to hear that from you. Thanks 👍 I know that, German stuff is also expensive for most of us in Germany, but if you want to trust in products, then use German or japanese stuff. They are also control Freaks, like us 😂
@mbunds
@mbunds 3 жыл бұрын
@@MsJellyfan I like them because they're "control freaks". You just can't go wrong with Siemens, Wago, Schneider, etc. Allen Bradley is OK, but they're really behind the times - FactoryTalk and RSlogix haven't changed much in decades, and in fact, seem to be falling behind. Allen Bradley, for one, now acts like Microsoft; always late to the party, always trying to copy features from the European, and particularly German industrial controls.
@marcelsimon6425
@marcelsimon6425 3 жыл бұрын
@@mbunds Schneider is france. I like their inverters, but for that Mitsubishi ist better. Mitsu is also a great alternative to Siemens In Case of PLC's.
@mfx1
@mfx1 3 жыл бұрын
They're often called "Top hat" rails in the UK as well.
@ARVash
@ARVash 3 жыл бұрын
There's such a wealth of older more standardized components and I am so glad you rediscovered this and shared it! Subscribed.
@deandeily9489
@deandeily9489 3 жыл бұрын
As somebody who has been building a CNC mill I am very familiar with how amazing DIN rails are! Yes, anything electrical - they are amazing! It's the aluminum extrusion of the electronics cabinet - modular, and cheap.
@coreymac2381
@coreymac2381 3 жыл бұрын
I have never used DIN rails. I can see how they can be very useful. Thanks for sharing.
@Skwisgar2322
@Skwisgar2322 3 жыл бұрын
As an engineer who designs control enclosures for water/wastewater plants my answer to your title is "i am" lol.
@rallen7660
@rallen7660 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using DIN rail (there are several variations to choose from) and Panduit for wire control for many years now in machine control systems. I'm currently working in aerospace industry making control consoles for test stands with 19" rack enclosures, with the back just covered with DIN rail mounted components. Many of the major suppliers offer their equipment in DIN modules for almost the same price.
@pablopeu
@pablopeu 3 жыл бұрын
DIN Rails are very common here in Argentina and what a coincidence, not many weeks ago I thought about using them like French cleats for storing tools at walls, didn't know there was such an ecosystem...! I'm glad.
@mrhfrc8470
@mrhfrc8470 3 жыл бұрын
You're cool dude. I think we would be best friends
@Animaniac-vd5st
@Animaniac-vd5st 3 жыл бұрын
DIN rails get developed before WW2 in Germany, and for some reason become common in Argentina after the war... pur coincidence.
@jyvben1520
@jyvben1520 3 жыл бұрын
like the french cleat idea, rail on the wall and rail on the container, just hook it on ... and for individual pieces print/make a "clip on" for the rail
@kingmasterlord
@kingmasterlord 3 жыл бұрын
well that just opened up a whole *branch* of types of ideas, I'll have to get back to you on that
@nachiketmhatre7411
@nachiketmhatre7411 3 жыл бұрын
I discovered that DIN rails could be used with 3D printers after getting into Voron DIY printers. Their official printed parts collection also has several DIN rail mounts for all the electronics. I use two sets of DIN rails to mount my PSU, mainboard, Raspberry Pi, SSR, and used terminal blocks to distribute all wiring underneath my custom 3D printer enclosure. The terminal blocks keep everything neat and you can use jumpers to consolidate common connections from the power source to devices. Absolutely convenient to create common ground connections for the PSU, bed, and printer/enclosure frames.
@anup92k
@anup92k 3 жыл бұрын
Hello from France ! In France, it is mainly used in houses electrical box (mines are white painted). I've printed some cases to be able to attach rail DIN foot to hide some DIY stuff in my electrical box. I've never thought about using this system to build something. Thanks for the idea !
@hullinstruments
@hullinstruments 3 жыл бұрын
The importance and usefulness of extruded aluminum can’t be understated. Din rail is great, but regular extruded aluminum structural material is also incredible. Just like the stuff a lot of 3-D printers are made from… It can be found exceptionally cheap especially if you can pick it up locally. You can find scrapyards, local hobbyists, or machine shops who throw that stuff away hundreds of pounds at a time. Ranging from short little 6 inch segments to over 6 feet long.
@samuelfaulkner4981
@samuelfaulkner4981 Жыл бұрын
those stands for the DIN rail are very cool
@leogray1091
@leogray1091 3 жыл бұрын
Great recommendation
@JohnTarbox
@JohnTarbox 3 жыл бұрын
Some really great ideas here! Thank you for making your models available. I have thought about using DIN rails but never got around to it. You have taken them way beyond anything I was thinking of. Time to order some.
@onecarwood
@onecarwood 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen these and never gave them a second thought. Love the test bench Idea.
@paulnolastname9422
@paulnolastname9422 3 жыл бұрын
Never thought about using them in this way. Thanks
@rpjames11
@rpjames11 3 жыл бұрын
This couldn't have come at a better time. I was trying to figure out how to hang some stackable bins and knew this existed but couldn't think of the rail name. Now I do and have some ordered. It's also going to be great for some other projects I have down the road.
@TheLouisEric
@TheLouisEric 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really useful set of suggestions !
@ronaldjensen2948
@ronaldjensen2948 3 жыл бұрын
Added a pack to my Amazon cart, thanks for the tip. I'm currently working on adding wind speed and direction sensors to an 8' garden windmill and need a way to mount everything...
@BretWrightSTUFF
@BretWrightSTUFF 3 жыл бұрын
Lol! Good video, just 3dprinted my own stand offs
@ronaldronald8819
@ronaldronald8819 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. I had have to mount a bunch of relays an some controllers It looks like din rail is the way to go. Thanks for the tip.
@MLFranklin
@MLFranklin 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool product. Useful information. Thanks!
@BenEBrady
@BenEBrady 3 жыл бұрын
The test bench is an awesome idea
@nachiketmhatre7411
@nachiketmhatre7411 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It can also be used for PC hardware benchmarking.
@joelcordier6762
@joelcordier6762 3 жыл бұрын
Huge topic, thanks for organisation and sharing. Keep on going.
@bratwizard
@bratwizard 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using them for years. Mostly for making control boxes and stuff, like for my CNC routers. I like your ideas for benchtop use. That's cool.
@dschaedler
@dschaedler 3 жыл бұрын
They are called 'Hutschiene' here in germany
@michaelmolter6180
@michaelmolter6180 3 жыл бұрын
In the industrial world, they always make quick bolt to steel or concrete mounts for sensors. The other similarly useful product is unistrut, but thats for bigger stuff.
@VictorGallagherCarvings
@VictorGallagherCarvings 2 жыл бұрын
You sold me on din rails. Now I am trying to figure out how to organize my printers electrical system using them.
@cperezotero
@cperezotero 3 жыл бұрын
I have them in my Voron 2.4 and they work awesome.
@dbryars
@dbryars 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips... very useful.
@90MichaelTaylor
@90MichaelTaylor 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the ideas, DIN rails look like a cheaper 20x20 square rail alternative
@TheRainHarvester
@TheRainHarvester 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought that's what the video was going to be about. That square rail is expensive. I'm making videos on inkjet printer parts for making a 3d printer.
@Inkling777
@Inkling777 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I may adapt them to mount a GPS etc. in my sailboat. It's a small one and car roll over easily. That'll keep that gear out of the water. Oh, and eBay has a wide selection of DIN rail gear.
@jensschroder8214
@jensschroder8214 Жыл бұрын
Where have we used DIN Rail for? Kitchen cabinets hung on the wall. In the dry wall, it only has support in the wooden beams. But the width and attachment point of the cabinets did not match. One DIN rail screwed to the wall and the kitchen cabinets on it... it fits
@chrisBruner
@chrisBruner 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. Very useful!
@TheJacklwilliams
@TheJacklwilliams 3 жыл бұрын
This was great! Subscribed! Can't wait to dig into the Makers Mashup vid library on here and see what other awesome ideas you've shared! THANK YOU!!!!
@ironspider5972
@ironspider5972 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@GrenPara
@GrenPara 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, great video thanks for making it. I do have a question for you which is what are the din rail parts called like the one that raises din rail so wires can go behind it?
@MakersMashup
@MakersMashup 2 жыл бұрын
It was just a wall mount for din rails.
@mikelaurie3850
@mikelaurie3850 3 жыл бұрын
Very good idea. Thanks for sharing
@vaclavblazek
@vaclavblazek 3 жыл бұрын
Me clicking on the video: “C’mon, man, DIN rail? That’s a piece of metal that goes in the electric box. Pfff” Me, few minutes in the video: “OH! Wait! That’s cool! Thanks, man!” Actually, the UniPi unit (PLC+RPi platform) snaps to a DIN rail and I’ve used one in a regular 19” rack. 50 cm piece of DIN rail (a 1 meter rail cut in half in my case) fits the rack perfectly.
@elcuriosopollo
@elcuriosopollo 2 жыл бұрын
Fantástic video!!
@buildcomics
@buildcomics 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see more people spreading the word. I have my models on prusa for tool holders.!
@chrisfisher3900
@chrisfisher3900 3 жыл бұрын
Will they hold akro bins? The little bins used for parts and such
@Antrim3d
@Antrim3d 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Good thoughts And presentation. Keep it up!
@johnthompson3605
@johnthompson3605 2 жыл бұрын
Din rails are for fastening cables to, because they are punched ,they are stressed and prone to warping , so if you want to maintain accuracy ,din rails are,not the way forward unless you like maintenance.
@johnnygilroy5213
@johnnygilroy5213 3 жыл бұрын
Sir ,You inspired me to redesign my artistic desk .Thank You:)
@deankq4adj125
@deankq4adj125 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Thanks for sharing.
@mrdovie47
@mrdovie47 3 жыл бұрын
I used to build Hot Engine test stands back in the 70's, DIN Rails all over in them.
@dano7448
@dano7448 3 жыл бұрын
DIN for the Win!
@lyechoonkhoo2891
@lyechoonkhoo2891 3 жыл бұрын
I love doing DIY, I din I yr projects are simple to do n functional, thks!
@Uzwel
@Uzwel 3 жыл бұрын
I work in industrial automation and we use it in 98% of professional panelling. Fuses holder, terminal block, industrial PLCs etc Use din as standards
@matekochkoch
@matekochkoch 3 жыл бұрын
Those rails are an industrial standard all over the world. There is a ton of stuff ready for use with them, they are cheap, easy to use, and really practical.
@RussellNelson
@RussellNelson 3 жыл бұрын
Plus you can mount your tools on them: www.thingiverse.com/thing:4888847
@cathyomalley2772
@cathyomalley2772 3 жыл бұрын
This fantastic, thanks.
@curtishorn1267
@curtishorn1267 3 жыл бұрын
Control Systems Engineers say "we are!". makers have more in common with controls engineers that most other disciplines IMO. That's why I"m both.
@fernwood
@fernwood 3 жыл бұрын
My desk indeed does look like that.
@Thekingmaker
@Thekingmaker 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly sir
@certified-forklifter
@certified-forklifter 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks
@luzerba
@luzerba 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing tool for makers. Thanks Rob for sharing this idea with us. Greetings!
@patrickmaartense7772
@patrickmaartense7772 3 жыл бұрын
wow that I never thought of this so cool indeed, amazon, has my order for a bunch of then
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 жыл бұрын
Boo, Amazon. Yay, DIN rails. :)
@MrTks1959
@MrTks1959 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I retired 16 years ago and have been getting back into electronics as a hobby and had never heard about DIN rails before. Thanks for the intro as to what they are and how they can be used. I've never been interested in 3D printing, but after watching your video I can see how it could help me take my own projects to the next level.
@MakersMashup
@MakersMashup 3 жыл бұрын
I can say that was 100% the reason I got into 3d printing. Being able to create enclosures and custom parts. It's life Changing.
@houssampedro96
@houssampedro96 2 жыл бұрын
What filament do you use ?
@lidarman2
@lidarman2 3 жыл бұрын
Funny is that I just found a huge stash of these at work. These and 80/20 or equivalent, anything can be made. Adult erector sets.
@onehumanwasted4228
@onehumanwasted4228 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Link for the braket from "Making Your Own DIN Rail Mounts" in 6:10 is missing. Could you please provide? Thanks
@onehumanwasted4228
@onehumanwasted4228 3 жыл бұрын
Found it www.thingiverse.com/thing:4853261
@MakersMashup
@MakersMashup 3 жыл бұрын
That should be in the thingiverse link with all of my din rail models.
@aaron-bieber
@aaron-bieber 3 жыл бұрын
1) Pegboard for life! 2) I have that exact heat gun! It's pretty great. 3) Really, pegboard for life.
@MakersMashup
@MakersMashup 3 жыл бұрын
It does work quite well. I use it often.
@RussellNelson
@RussellNelson 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like pegboard because the holders come off too easily. With my DIN rail tool holders, they are locked in left to right, and top to bottom. www.thingiverse.com/thing:4888847
@subodhawanasundera3957
@subodhawanasundera3957 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a great idea! Thanks heaps for sharing 😁 I can see the endless possibilities now, just brilliant!
@wickedprotos1937
@wickedprotos1937 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm.. voltmeter to DIN rail holder for Fluke etc :-)
@robotskirts
@robotskirts 3 жыл бұрын
Use wire duct for wire clean up. It's right there next to the DIN rail 😆
@OldCurmudgeon3DP
@OldCurmudgeon3DP 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone made an STL for the DIN clamp. For printers, I use direct mount w/ screws/nuts or slot the part into the profile. Could be handy for a CoreXY electronics package though.
@benvolio36
@benvolio36 3 жыл бұрын
Voron Design specs this as standard equipment. Great solution.
@BBMando69
@BBMando69 3 жыл бұрын
That was a good one Rob.
@FilmFactry
@FilmFactry 3 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend steel or Aluminum? I can see attaching one under my printer table, and be able to attach power strips, cable holders etc. Thanks.
@MakersMashup
@MakersMashup 3 жыл бұрын
Aluminum has worked well so I'll use that unless I need the rigidity of steel. But the Aluminum is fairly strong.
@nachiketmhatre7411
@nachiketmhatre7411 3 жыл бұрын
@@MakersMashup Steel ones are cheap over here compared to aluminium, so that can also be a deciding factor.
@matneu27
@matneu27 3 жыл бұрын
Still use them here in Germany on job site from time to time. Never thought on them to organize electronic components and cables with the help of my brain and the 3dprinter. Still designed my housings to screw it on a wall or wood board before. Anyway, every maker knows how fast installation setups change ;-) Thank you for the inspirations!
@user-xb5zu6zu7j
@user-xb5zu6zu7j 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@DiverDownFL
@DiverDownFL 3 жыл бұрын
I use a DIN rail in my full size R2 I am building for mounting my Raspberry Pi, ESCs and other components.
@gicknardner
@gicknardner 3 жыл бұрын
wow I just finished a project where this would have been perfect.
@ChristoffL
@ChristoffL 3 жыл бұрын
I've considered them for 3dprinting since I get in contact with din rail on a professional level. However, Ive never been able to find them (attractively) cheaper than 2020 extrusion profiles, which are basically the same as in providing a modular platform. You can make less or more the same standard part to click something on a 2020, 2040 etc. Most standard components provided for din rail I would also consider overkill should you use them for 3dp.
@TheTurmanDreams
@TheTurmanDreams 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make explain the lineal rail ?
@DoctorTelefono
@DoctorTelefono 3 жыл бұрын
I use these a lot at work, very handy!
@RichardBronosky
@RichardBronosky 3 жыл бұрын
I finally found the name of those things when I took a class to learn to program Allen Bradley PLCs for a client in 2002. I've loved them ever since.
@TheRainHarvester
@TheRainHarvester 3 жыл бұрын
I just saw these at home depot for $25 for ten feet. Is that a good price?
@MakersMashup
@MakersMashup 3 жыл бұрын
If it's truly DIN rail then yeah I would say that is a bargain. I'll have to look next time I'm there. Thanks for the heads up.
@RussellNelson
@RussellNelson 3 жыл бұрын
My local electric supply has 8 feet for $15.
@xxmyyoursxx123
@xxmyyoursxx123 3 жыл бұрын
Subbed
@tylersheehy3918
@tylersheehy3918 3 жыл бұрын
It also has automotive mod options
@BarioIDL
@BarioIDL Жыл бұрын
i'm working on a din linear rail and it's better than rods
@killerskincanoe
@killerskincanoe 3 жыл бұрын
I like this video
@hotends
@hotends 3 жыл бұрын
5:26 You called? (heard our name) haha
@parkSiSoo
@parkSiSoo 3 жыл бұрын
omg i love you
@joell439
@joell439 3 жыл бұрын
I guess I miss most parties too 👍🤪👍
@seth7407
@seth7407 3 жыл бұрын
Aren't DIN rails what erector sets made of
@MakersMashup
@MakersMashup 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. I used plenty of erector sets as a child. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erector_Set they are quite different. DIN rails and 2020 Extrusion are the erector sets for grown ups though. :)
@Ordog213
@Ordog213 3 жыл бұрын
DIN-Deutsche Industrie Norm It is nice to be german...from time to time.
@pointless1987
@pointless1987 3 жыл бұрын
fyi - DIN - Deutsches Institut für Normung de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN-Norm
@mrhfrc8470
@mrhfrc8470 3 жыл бұрын
TACTICAL DIN RAILS
@rondlh20
@rondlh20 3 жыл бұрын
Quite useful!. The AC wiring you show for the power supply is really unsafe...
@MakersMashup
@MakersMashup 3 жыл бұрын
Other than the fact that are exposed?
@adisharr
@adisharr 3 жыл бұрын
What's unsafe? The metal pins are for the AC input from a mating cord.
@rondlh20
@rondlh20 3 жыл бұрын
@@MakersMashup Yes, that's what I mean
@MakersMashup
@MakersMashup 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah then you're right. I'm a rebel. 110 is not that bad but I'm competent enough to keep my fingers out of the high voltage. 😁
@Numenor7
@Numenor7 3 жыл бұрын
DIN there DONE that :)
@MakersMashup
@MakersMashup 3 жыл бұрын
Very punny.
@Quadromodo
@Quadromodo 3 жыл бұрын
Why not just 3D print them?
@TheRainHarvester
@TheRainHarvester 3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha so true.
@adisharr
@adisharr 3 жыл бұрын
They would not be durable enough to print and they're very inexpensive.
@RussellNelson
@RussellNelson 3 жыл бұрын
@@adisharr The ones I'm printing seem durable enough to hold tools, and they lock in place nicely. www.thingiverse.com/thing:4888847
@xasmaniusvolk8416
@xasmaniusvolk8416 3 жыл бұрын
0:44 duuh it's a Norm - just like the ATX, mATX and all the other standards
@j.sawyer4946
@j.sawyer4946 3 жыл бұрын
They're French Cleats.
@RussellNelson
@RussellNelson 3 жыл бұрын
They're the metal shop equivalent of French Cleats, yes.
@PaulodeSouzaLima
@PaulodeSouzaLima 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, can you please enable the subtitles and automatic translations for God's sake!
@MakersMashup
@MakersMashup 3 жыл бұрын
I tried. YT for whatever reason did not auto-translate the video. I'm working on an alternative now. YT Usually puts the English in and I translate the rest manually.
@MakersMashup
@MakersMashup 3 жыл бұрын
Subtitles and languages should be there now.
@user_PsevdonimyEtoPolnyjOtstoj
@user_PsevdonimyEtoPolnyjOtstoj 3 жыл бұрын
Почему Ютуб предлагает видео на не понятном мне языке?
@muppetpaster
@muppetpaster 3 жыл бұрын
Literally used miles of the 🧐
@reubenkriegel7639
@reubenkriegel7639 3 жыл бұрын
Electricians be like: ...
@birlainternationalindia7911
@birlainternationalindia7911 2 жыл бұрын
I am manufacturer
@pappaflammyboi5799
@pappaflammyboi5799 3 жыл бұрын
And here I thought M-LOK rails on a firearm was unique technology...not!
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