The Tool We’ve Been Waiting For! BUT There’s a Catch...

[@MakeSomething]

I bought every woodworking ad I saw on Facebook kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKvZiph8pNasj6M

[@briannelson4122]

I've seen this before and I admit, when you did your video on buying fad tools ,I was hoping this was going to be one of them. So glad you evidentially found this, I was very curious if :1- it was real, 2- if it worked, and 3- if the build quality was there. Thanks for the answers! Thanks for doing this video, I'll be ordering this if for nothing else, just to play with it, as I cant afford a Festool just for kicks, and to see if I can find a use for it. I'm a retired carpenter and now just piddle around my shop/garage because I like it, not for a living.

[@MrMartinSchou]

While it is true that the tool is $200, it could easily be worth the expediency to just leave a router in the tool permanently for expediency. So add in ~$150 for that and you're still only at ~$350.

[@MD-en3zm]

Yeah, I expect to just leave it there. I’ll make my own floating tenons too, not too difficult to do and a good way to use up scrap. Plus then they’ll fit the existing bits I have (which are imperial and not metric). I have the DeWalt, which I’ll probably leave in it, as I have a bunch of routers (6 maybe?)

[@etubcsegg]

That was my first thought also, keep a router in it.

[@ipick4fun27]

I've seen many wood worker using simple tenon jig with palm router, straight bit and router bushing to cut the tenons. The tool makes it go faster. Jig requires clamping for every hole. But the jig is very simple to make. It can be done with scrap wood so practically $0. I think this tool is good for weekend wood worker who's not willing to pay for dominos.

[@luizpustiglione1269]

I did exactly that. I bought a cheaper router and 3D printed a sleeve to adapt the diameter of the non Dewalt router. I also printed spacers as he suggested Happy with the solution

[@CarlYota]

Plus $45 shipping so your at $400. Starting to get pricey for a “jig”. Of course if the router ever broke you could swap it out instead of bricking your whole tool. And you could take it out of the jig so it could work as another trim router if your project doesn’t require dominos. but $400 is still a lot of money.

[@JaySellers]

Sticking with my Dominos but this should make Festool consider lowering their price to be more competitive. They won’t 😂 but they should.

[@manup1931]

2024 is the expiration date of the patent

[@whitexeno]

@@manup1931 Good to know. I'll hold off another year then. Been wanting one badly.

[@espressomatic]

@@manup1931 Don't expect a rush of competitors as it's not their patent that's prevented similar products. Dominos in general are for KZbinrs. No one else uses them.

[@alexanderhuff8758]

They are only so well known BECAUSE they are so expensive. They wouldn't get all the same buzz if they were reasonably priced. Sometimes being the most expensive option gets you more sales than being just another budget option.

[@arayawoodworks]

Lol literally I said “they won’t” as I read this comment and the read the end 😂😂

[@sgsax]

Seems like a great option for *FLOATING TENONS*. Inexpensive and actually works pretty good. Always nice to see that. And I do love having options. Thanks for sharing!

[@KenFullman]

I've never used dominos in my woodwork, but I'm tempted to try *FLOATING TENONS*. Especially since I can now make *FLOATING TENONS* in my own workshop.

[@jmakes3745]

As somebody that has had a domino for the past couple of years, I have to say I'm really impressed by this little jig. There have been quite a few times I've wished I could cut custom width dominos or at heights that aren't on the domino's pre-set little step and it looks like it would be really easy to do with this and if you made a couple of jigs (see below) you would be able to make it a lot quicker to use. - To set the depth, make a piece of wood with a series of different depth holes in it. With the router off, simply plunge the bit into the desired depth hole, and then tighten the depth knob when it hits the bottom. - To set how high you want the cut to be on an edge, you could have a simple stepped packer that gets pushed in-between the red and silver pieces. Push the two together so they are tight on the packer, then tighten the knob.

[@paulkramer4176]

Yeah, I agree totally. I love my dominos, (I use both) but yes, at times, I want to put in two tenons, at fairly far apart, (like 2+ inches along the same mark) and the fence doesn't allow for that. This would. Sure, the domino is so much faster to set up than this one, but for that money, it would be worth having this in addition.

[@make_or_die]

Believe you could use the same trick for both. Make holes at different heights and depth. One piece for the whole setup.

[@jackleg693]

As a DIY home gamer the domino is way outside of my justifiable spending range. This tool fits this gap perfectly. Yeah, it’s not as quick and yeah it’s dusty but is it $1,000 slower/dustier? Not in my world. Excellent review and as always a great video. Also my mom says thanks for the inch?? 😉

[@chrisr8996]

The thing with the Domino (or most Festools) as a hobbyist is: if you go used, they do not lose value. If you buy it for 600 USD used you'll be able to sell it off 4 years later down the road for about the same 600 USD.

[@mc48911]

True today, but once the patent is done so is that resale price.

[@DanaOredson]

Saving $1000 is a big deal, for sure. Since all of us woodworkers always want more tools, use the $1000 saved to have a better tablesaw, which is the cornerstone of practically every shop. Thanks for the video and sharing this jig!

[@branchandfoundry560]

I agree! Another idea is use $1,000 to import two power feeders from Alibaba: one on the table saw, one on the jointer. They'll increase production speed and accuracy more than enough to make up for this tool being slower than the Domino. NOTE: I've imported three machines from Alibaba and am happy with every one of them (no affiliation or sponsorship).

[@frankklein4872]

Sorry if I sound dumb, but what pray is a power feeder?

[@DanaOredson]

@@frankklein4872 Motorized device that pushes the workpiece against the fence and feeds it through the blade or cutter (they can be used with tablesaws, routers, planers, shapers, etc).

[@ipick4fun27]

$1,000 probably close enough for a half decent table saw and thickness planer.

[@731Woodworks]

Very interesting tool. Good find!

[@5280Woodworking]

Coming up with a dust extraction jig and using fixed bases would greatly improve the product. I like it, very neat. I’m not getting rid of my Domino but I love to see this kind of innovation in our craft.

[@LitheInLitotes]

FesSTOOL was PROVED to be trash by project Farm. Their tools aren't worth a dime. Cheap competitors will completely upend them

[@5280Woodworking]

@@LitheInLitotes I prove weekly that Festool is worth every penny. Stop letting people think for you, go make your own conclusions.

[@andys844]

Apart from the speed/convenience is there a big difference between a Domino and dowel? Does this jig get you anything you don't get with a good dowel jig and drill?

[@InchFab]

Yeah, it gets you a hole that fits a domino.

[@dannyross]

Haha that Floating Tenon voiceover. 😂. If Dave switches his channel to videos of him just eating cereal I am still watching.

[@CheveeDodd]

Thanks for buying a second one! I was looking at getting one of these for myself but wasn't sure if it was going to work for me. For the few times I want to use a floating tenon, this thing looks perfect for me!

[@frrapp2366]

add a couple of pieces of lexan to make a 0 clearance fence and a shield on top under the front knob bet you could even add a switched handle on the router bracket to turn it on and off

[@chetleonard169]

SO happy I found a Domino jointer in an estate sale for $100.

[@MakeSomething]

Whoa!! Nice score!

[@patmx5]

Damn! You practically stole it! Congrats!

[@c.a.g.1977]

Pretty nifty jig! Already own the domino, and everytime I use it I always think: "Man this tool is such a pleasure to use!" Whereas every time I use a router... well, they're scary things!

[@jcsmith800]

I actually bought and own this! My gripes with this is the fence doesn’t tilt to 45 degrees, the depth and height stops are easily moved when locked down, and the 1st iteration had a (higher quality in my opinion) spring loaded linear guide rail/bearing. I reached out to the manufacturer as to what exactly got “upgraded” to warrant a higher price for the second model as to which they replied “we painted red”. Buyers beware, I still would recommend it though. Just wish they would’ve stayed with the linear guide rails than just two thin rods.

[@MakeSomething]

Would you get a version 3 if it tilted?

[@djVania08]

Where did you buy it?

[@a-carpenter9229]

@@djVania08 you can get it on eBay. I just received mine yesterday and tried it out with a cordless router. It works as intended but something needs to be done about dust collection. For narrow stock you can clamp your material flush to the edge of a workbench and use the bench to keep the jig square and stable

[@a-carpenter9229]

@@MakeSomething I'm sure the manufacturer could make an add on where you could remove the top handle and install one that does angles instead of buying a whole new version 3 of the jig

[@jcsmith800]

@@MakeSomething I would, but my biggest gripe was the change from linear guide rail to two dowels for the plunge action. pretty salty that the plunge action and a new paint job justifies the vague "(price) &/or upgraded " quote from the manufacture.

[@rlhanks]

Great video, that company should be sending you a commission check for the incredible amounts of sales their about to make. I am sure there are plenty of hobbyist who are just like me who would love a Festol but can't justify the cost. This brings that feature into reality, even if it comes with some inconvenience. A bit of a side note, the savings is only that good IF you own the router.

[@a-carpenter9229]

Makita had a promotion running for Black friday that lasted to the end of Dec where if you bought a 18v brushless drill and impact driver combo kit you could pick two free tools which is what I did. I picked the cordless router and jigsaw. The battery adds weight to the end of this jig so you'd just have to make sure to hold the top handle down good and solid

[@meperson]

I think it is cool but it is still half baked domino machine. For non professional woodworking I would go with good, not cheap, doweling jig like Dowelmax or Jessem.

[@TheMightyDaewoo]

Would love to see a review of the new JessEm pocket mill pro loose tenon system. Uses a hand drill with an endmill instead of a router

[@mikecostanzo35]

It looks like it could use a second knob for the depth adjustment (depth from the top reference surface). There's one on the left, but the one on the right seems like it's able to flex up and down a little.

[@mikecostanzo35]

You can see it move at 7:04

[@linsen8890]

I don't do enough floating tenons to justify a $1200 Festool domino machine, but for $195, I could probably make the case, especially since I already have that DeWalt trim router. That's impressive!

[@MadMonk67]

#1 reason not to GET RID of your Festool - It's an expensive tool and you've already spent the money (or gotten it for free). However, if you didn't have the Festool, would you spend 6 times as much to get the little bit of extra functionality? Most would say no. Thanks for doing a great video on this. It's good to know there are viable options for something like this. I'm sure someone could come up with a 3d-printed attachment for dust collection.

[@joshuaclaygaines]

Whats wrong with biscuit joiners? Never had a problem with any of mine... You can get one for $70 at HF.....

[@sral128]

Very Interesting. Thanks! The Domino is heavily overpriced I think. But this jig doesnt seem top be an aedequate solution anyway. Apart from dust collection also safety seems to be an issue with that jig. The router spins without a cover. And the dust collection for itself is already a big downside. Saving 1000$ is also not quite right because you got to have a certain router and cutting head. Fair enough though this seems to be kind of standard equipment.

[@FreiluftJunky]

Hello, it's not a bad product. But instead of milling these dominos awkwardly, you could simply use two dowels. The Domino machine is designed to make fast and stable connections. Replacing this process with a slower and more cumbersome approach just to use dominos is a waste of time for me. But to each his own, great review, thanks.

[@corpsman97]

Yes, dust collection, there is none. Not to mention, if your palm slips, it's getting a floating tendon, literally. I would spend money to keep my tendons in my body. Cool video, lol

[@MineMountModels]

“Floating tenon” - insert best robotic announcer voice Nice looking tool.

[@sarchlalaith8836]

You could probably use any 5mm/8mm mill bit in those, gereric bits tend to be cheaper.

[@timlelapin]

Perfect, thanks for sharing ! The domino is way outside my budget given the few times I would actually use it (as a non professional woodworker). This looks like a very easy jig to use, at least compared to other diy options out there.

[@MrKebaabpizza]

Its not 1200 vs 200. The router is not included.

[@rvburbank1]

Is the right side of the jig dropping making the mortise crooked?

[@DanielWahlig]

Looks like a killer jig. I've never actually used a festool domino, but I did notice that all of the mortises cut seemed to be out of parallel with the surface (you can see it best at 7:03 where there's almost a one-ply slant to the cut). I'd imagine the Festool is a bit more consistent in keeping the mortise parallel, whereas - I'd imagine you'd have to be really careful with this jig to ensure both sides of the jig are dropping the same distance whenever you adjust it. Still looks like a great deal, but just something I noticed.

[@HyperactiveNeuron]

I thought I was seeing that too but wasn't sure if it was me or what. Glad it wasn't just me. I bet that could be adjusted out. Maybe Dave will have some info on it

[@jesseanderson4807]

I think the problem is that the height adjustment only clamps on the left side when he was adjusting it and even while he was cutting mortices you could see a bit of movement on the right side in the height adjustment. The really need clamping screws on both sides.

[@robertlarsonwoodford]

I purchased a Domino 500 a couple years ago and out of the box it cut mortises that were not parallel with the surface. I contacted my festool dealer within 30 days of purchase and they replaced with a new one at no cost, no questions asked. I found it odd that there wasn't an onboard adjustment to address that situation but I was also impressed with the customer service!

[@roblapihuska9275]

I noticed the same thing. Even when holding up the glued up pieces they looked to be out of plane to each other as whatever error on each mortise would be amplified x2.

[@richardlug6139]

@@jesseanderson4807 Drilling and tapping a hole for a screw on the opposite side would be an easy modification, but I do not see why the manufacturer has not seen the problem and fixed it.

[@BStreet666]

Just received my Jessem doweling jig master kit for under $200.00 shipped. Dominoes are great but dowels are good enough for any project I've ever taken on.

[@MurrayBarton]

I don't usually watch tool reviews unless I am specifically looking to buy something but really enjoyed this and found it useful, thank-you.

[@jeffpalladino3262]

It looked like the height adjustment only had a screw on one side to tighten, is that true? After you tightened the screw, the other side looked like it was moving up and down a little bit possibly causing a crooked mortise. Just want some clarification on that, and to know if that caused any issues for you.

[@gilfernandez9122]

I gotta get one and try it. I've been wanting a Festool however it is well out of my budget... Thank you for the video demonstration! 👍

[@bobt2522]

I loved the flawless voiceover work. Totally non-obvious! I am going to look at the Jessem jig too

[@jesseanderson4807]

Am I missing something or was there a significant amount of play on the right side in terms of the height adjustment? At 3:33 you can see the top plate flex, after he's set the height adjustment. Seems like it really needs a knob on both sides.

[@yoelai]

I bought it awhile ago, it was not working properly for me, the mortises were not parallel to the reference surface, they were super nice and refunded me immediately. It is very well built but I guess one of the linear rails got damaged in shipping.

[@markhagen7777]

Yeah not only was it not centered on the board it was not cutting parallel to the surfaces of the board at minute 4:39 you should reference such a characteristic

[@espressomatic]

One word: dowels. End of story.

[@201081hero]

One word counts as a story?

[@JoshWrightWoodworking]

That's dope, I might have to get me one of those

[@tjkrueger2655]

(OK Computer voice) "FLOATING TENONS... fitter... stronger... more productive..."

[@MrBassjan]

Looks like the cuts are always slightly angled (looking at the plywood lines for reference). Might be good to have a set screw on the second axis as well.

[@InspireWoodcraft]

Great video as per the norm. Any idea why it was cutting the mortises at an angle in a few cases (as in, not parallel to the face of the material)?

[@MakeSomething]

Hey man! I didn't notice this until afterwards. There's only a lock on one side when setting the height and if you're not careful it'll lock down at a slight angle.

[@LitheInLitotes]

FesSTOOL was PROVED to be trash by project Farm. Their tools aren't worth a dime. Cheap competitors will completely upend them

[@DaileyWoodworks]

I feel like @stumpynubs made one of these many years ago. If someone tried to take my Domino I would fight them.

[@AaronGeller]

I'm sure you already know, but it's not terribly difficult to make a simple jig to bore a mortise for a floating tenon. I know Marc Spagnuolo shows how to make a mortise with a router that accepts a floating tenon. Our Domino machines just make the process more efficient and allows us to create mortises at different angles.

[@SquawkingSeabird]

Hey man if you happen to find that other one, I'll gladly buy it off of you. I was super bummed when I saw that they had sold out in the ebay store and I'm not sure when they'll restock if at all. Thanks and great video as usual 😀

[@milkod2001]

I have bought e500 Dewalt biscuit jointer but returned it. Joints were too loose. Also just returned e50 doweling jig. Joints were not precise at all. I'm only woodworking hobiest not making money from it so spending e1000 on festool domino 500 is a lot but I don't see any other option when I want joints to be precise.

[@meperson]

I went thru same search and landed on Dowelmax jig. It is super accurate and quick. I think it beats this jig.

[@JamisonWorkshop]

I have the original version of this. One modification I made was a thin piece of sheet metal to close up the opening a bit and allow you to get closer to the edges and provide more support. I have done over 100 mortises and occasionally will get a nasty kick back, I believe because of it moving on me. I find it works best to plunge a hole on the left and the right side and then make 3 passes across to finish it off. I also made a jig to clamp it to for standard 3/4 stock pieces. to make it a bit safer. It does work and is a great alternative until I get the real thing.

[@a-carpenter9229]

For routing those narrow stock pieces you could clamp your workpiece flush to the edge of your workbench and use the bench to keep the jig square and stable

[@keithgoldston2859]

Looks vary close to the one pask makes made out of wood but I love it

[@nicolassimard5847]

The sole and only case where I would probably consider it a fair replacement to the domino would be if I needed the XL for huge tenons where the 500 can’t fit. Otherwise, i don’t think we can consider it as a decent replacement nor competitor of the domino. There’s way too much manual adjustment to be made. Thanks for showing us, thanks for spending the money so I won’t have to 👍

[@oakoliver7183]

If I had dropped $1200 for something that can be done with a tool for $200 I would say the same thing. Festool is a status symbol for a lot of people. Like an overpriced automobile.

[@nicolassimard5847]

@@oakoliver7183 I agree to some extent on your comment. Don’t get me wrong, I am absolutely not a Festool fan boy ready to defend the brand to death. Earlier in my life, I was in the lucky situation where I could afford that premium priced tool. I am glad I did because the precision and “easyness" compensate for my terrible lack of experience and patience. Today I would maybe consider it. But it brings me back to my first comment, I don’t think we can "compare" it to a domino machine. Yes it is a tool that can help creating mortises at a fairly low price point but for a comparison, we should compare with a lamello or other tools in that category. I hope I am more clear !

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic testing and review, Dave! Thanks!!! 😃 But yeah, they should make something for the dust collection!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@woodandwandco]

FLOATING TENON

[@clutteredchicagogarage2720]

You could see if a 3/16 router bit might give you a tighter fit and still work with 5mm dominos. 3/16in is 4.76mm. You might be able to squeeze a 5mm domino into a 4.76mm mortise. I might try something like this one day, but I think I might prefer to just use multiple dowels + a doweling jig instead of dominos. Regarding dust collection, I think you could probably make a dust shroud and port that might work with that jig that might work ok, although I'd have to watch the video again and pause the frame to think about the best way to make it for that particular tool.

[@markglabinski3016]

Once again a great review. I almost pulled the trigger on the Festool but the wife would have really pulled the trigger if I did!

[@edithmorrison5332]

I so appreciate your reviews, I actually bought a similar jig on Amazon along with the handheld win router. (Based off your win review videos) I am loving my jig, under $100 on Amazon so for about $150 I have a poor woman's festool domino joiner.

[@danthemakerman]

Alternative title "The ULTIMATE Festool Domino Killer?!?!?!?!?" all kidding aside definitely a cool product.

[@WillLeingang]

Perfect example of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. Thanks for the review! Maybe a dowel jig is still the “good enough” domino alternative?

[@MakeSomething]

Oh yeah, dowel jigs are great! More than good enough

[@3weight]

So if you can’t do face mortising, you can’t use it for case assembly? Or you could do case corners, but not in-field shelves away from the edge? I wonder if there’s any way to jury-rig an angle…

[@뚜띠뚜띠-t6k]

Thank you for the good video. I bought a jig on eBay after watching the video. It's a 220V place in Korea, so Dewalt dwp611110v doesn't fit. Can I know the compatible Dewalt compact trimmer that can be used wirelessly or 220V? I'll be waiting for the reply. Thank you. Always be happy and healthy^^

[@gregariouswoodworks1270]

Wow..that is a huge difference in price. It opens doors for smaller shops/hobbyists

[@charlesbrewer4025]

OK, looks like a great jig! NOW, Where the heck do you buy this??? Not available on the eBay link. Not on Amazon. Not on Chinese shopping sites. Did Tianli go out of business? Did Festool shut them down over some patent infringement? WHERE CAN YOU FIND THIS TOOL???

[@duncanreed2391]

I use my Peter Millard Loose Tenon Jig and a plunge router, very easy to use, works with any plunge router and even cheaper (depending on where you live and postage)

[@tacticalskiffs8134]

Look, people have been waiting (smart people have been biscuitting) for the patent to come off the Domino, as it did on the biscuit joinner. If a person was willing to do the work to do the SUPERIOR floating tenon (zero size limitation), there have been tons of options all along. Notably, plunge routers (mount the piece on the apron of your bench); Tenon attachments on stuff like saws, I am talking about the horizontal units that came on things like Inca table saws, or stand alone machines; Horizontal drills, a-la-Krenov; or horizontal milling machines. You can almost buy a plunge router for what that jig costs. Or a person could just cut joints that are superior to all these kludges, though stronger than strong enough is no biggie.

[@fredmercury1314]

Considering the expense, the noise, the mess, and the fact that dowels are just as strong, I think I'll stick with a dowel jig.

[@bigredracingdog466]

The patent on Domino expires in the next year or so. Milwaukee, DeWalt, Makita, et al are no doubt working on their domino cutters as I write. I'm sure there will be a low end model from Wen or Ryobi all the way up to pricier ones from Makita or Milwaukee, but still cheaper than Festool.

[@gregritchie1758]

The Festool domino is a great idea but.........for the price of 1200 to 1500 I cannot justify the $$$ versus feature. That said I bought a full size M-T machine for less. But,, for portability I will pay 200 for a near clone.

[@CarlYota]

When it was released it was $160. Now it’s $200 plus $45 shipping. $250 is just too much for a jig. Add in $130 for one of the two routers it works with and it’s not viable. At $150 and fits all name brand trim routers I would have bought it. I’ll just wait to see if a name brand makes a domino alternative next year for a few hundred bucks.

[@andrewbieger5004]

Great review. Looking to get one of these, since I already have the DeWalt router. I saw your link for a 5mm bit (1/4 shank), but can't seem to find them for 6, 8 or 10, except the dedicated Domino cutters. With regards to making your own loosed tenons, you are probably better off, as a TINY error in manufacturing can make enough difference in bit cut diameter.

[@crisrody852]

That dewalt router is around 150$ brand new. So, for $350,00 the hobbist can easily do "domino" jobs. It's still way cheaper to use dowels, specially if you already own a drill press or get a 50~100$ jig. Considering how cheap and easy it can be to use dowels I don't think I'd go for this jig, unless my goal was to have this tool in a portable way with a battery powered router, but I'm unsure if it's better than simply carrying a doweling jig.

[@Keifsanderson]

4:36. Mortise look SIGNIFICANTLY askew, i.e. it's not parallel to the grain in the plywood.

[@nonplayablecharacter4815]

Does it fit the Milwaukee

[@LaBizounerie]

"all your mom needs" 😮 Pretty savage humor there.. love it!! 😅😅😅 Thanks for letting us know about this tool!

[@richardleslie410]

I get that there is a big elephant in the room, the price of the Festool Domino, And I'm closer to buying this Jig. Although to add up all the bits and pieces for this tool to be complete with various size collets, bits, and the router I come in closer to $450 for a complete machine. Still this might be my choice

[@WrongTimeWatch]

"floating tenon" voice over was a little creepy. I read lips, so I could see what you were really saying, LOL.

[@alejandrocantu4652]

Not interested in wasting $1,000 for the Festool dominion plus a another $1,000 on festool Extractor for dust collection. I already own a router and shop vac thank you. Using my existing Spiral bites to make mortise priceless.

[@BrendanFalkowski]

It's cool, but hard pass for safety. Plunging the bit 1" from your fingers without a physical guard is bad design. The Domino is worth the price for safety and everything else it does better: precision, repeatability, ergonomics, dust collection, mitering, face mortising, and accessory system.

[@Duraltia]

@03:20 Uhh... The Fixture not having a 2nd such Screw on the other side seems kinda like a dealbreaker for me as the weight of the Router causes the Fixture to sag on the unsecured end which can be seen @04:20 and later observed with the ever so slightly misaligned boards you've joined together. Also... $200.- for that!? That's as absurd as the 1'200.- Festool Price 🤣

[@MarkovChains223]

With the patent set to expire some time next year (which other competitors are surely planning to release their versions of as soon as it does), unless I had a professional NEED to use a lot of loose tenon joinery NOW *and* in the future, I probably wouldn't buy either a festool nor a domino-jig like this, and instead just wait for a much cheaper, but still convenient, version; I'm sure ryobi will release a decent enough one, and I don't want to have already sunk $200+ into a tool that I plan on replacing in less than a year unless I absolutely HAVE to

[@banjerlegs3051]

Domino is still king, this doesn’t even compare

[@Benham_Design]

One thought I had while watching this was safety. One thing I like about the domino is it's spring loaded. So if something gets out of hand, the bit retracts back into the tool. That thing is just flopping around all willy nilly. For a tool that seems to be geared for the hobbyist, I feel like it should have some kind of guard on top and a spring to add some resistance. But otherwise if you're on a budget, rock on!

[@Renrondog]

Nice option for an overpriced Festool. I made a jig for my Bosch colt that does the same thing and I make my own tenons any size or length I want. I built an entire crib for my grand daughter using it with zero nails or screws. Took me a day to make the jigs and $40 worth of knobs and plexiglass. It's not as convenient as a Domino but it's just as accurate and I can even change bit / tenon size

[@mkristof83]

For some DIY projekt, it is fine. But I had a day only just makeing domino holes with the festool domino jointer, and I didn't used the any markings, I used the pop out pins. With markind each pieces together, it would take me a one day job about 3 days.

[@efenili]

Im honestly very surprised more jigs like this don't exist. The Domino is the most stupidly priced thing from Festool out of an entire catalog of expensive things. Unless you are using it everyday for work it makes no sense from a value perspective for hobbyists unfortunately.

[@gregghernandez2714]

I saw another KZbin video where the user was concerned about how close your hand was to the spinning bit, but as I see you demonstrate it, it looks extremely secure in that collar, and I don't see how your hand would ever come close to that spinning bit, unless you were really not careful. A tool that I would consider getting, but for now my Dowelmax works just fine for my needs.

[@howiemoth3847]

I got scammed on same tool FBM jig for Makita trim router $39.00. Did you find anything out about the "site"? TY

[@mrsubarashii1764]

Does anyone know if you can use this jig with a Milwaukee m18 trim router? I would think it’s pretty close to the dewalt one?

[@PatLap]

There’s also Jessem coming in with a clever system too. I do still love my domino though. :)

[@ChimeraActual]

I never figured out why anyone would bother with these biscuit tools. In my twenty five years as a boat carpenter I never did. You've already got a router, right? Just put a slotting cutter in it and slot both pieces to any length you wish, then cut splines to fit. You need to make the grain of the splines to be perpendicular to the length of the spline, but you knew that. As a bonus, a slotting cutter won't pull up or down like a dull end mill might.

[@scottbionicnerf8727]

We have 2 festool air/electric powered portable DA sander stations at my work. The reclamation is so good that I can and do work without the need for a mask. There's literally no dust when dry sanding.

[@Barkley-q8l]

I bought one of these and it worked great for about a year. After about a year it developed a lot of play in the lateral slide and I could find no way to tighten. After that it made tenons that had more of a football shape. It now resides at the dump.

[@lesb.5664]

Just saw this video now and followed the link to the eBay listing; it's no longer for sale, but it did say they sold 209 of them. Guess I missed the boat. Great review!

[@shakdidagalimal]

I'm happy the festool stakeholders have many yachts and Davos trips and high price escort services so i'll pay the excessive thousand dollars and preen and fiddle with my hair on camera and smirk just right to attain bigshot status.

[@PLF...]

Never got the idea behind dominos. Its just wider dowels, which means less surface area to glue on. Just make a jig for the drill and some dowels out of good wood (which dominos arent). Waaaaay more flexible, less tools needed and much less expensive. Only advantage for the domino as I see it is that you can rout out a few mils to one side if the initial hole was off, but otherwise I just dont see it.

[@k2largerthanlife209]

Good review. As a hobbyist moving towards higher end furniture been looking at Festool May hold off thanks to this video. FYI, found this video showing at 5:29 how to do a shelf mid board. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaHFdJyvnK98Y80 he also shows how to do a loose tenon on small boards. So now really just the dust collection issue is holding me back.

[@frrapp2366]

how about adding a couple of pieces of lexan one on the base to make a 0 clearance base for those narrow or close to the edge holes and another on top under the handle to keep chips and debris from flying up or fingers going down , even put a trigger switch handle on the router bracket for easy on off --- Lots of modifications BUT!!!

[@YouGumppy]

I will tell your viewers to purchase the all aluminimum appliance. you have to purchase your appliance with a router-trimmer in mind. I think it won't take the Festool router.

[@gregmize01]

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[@hjworkshop1]

I’ve brought a table saw and a bandsaw for £1000 and then you have the domino from festool…….😅