Conjugal Visits Could Save America? So Why are they taking them away? |Dark History w/ Bailey Sarian

Hi friends, happy Thursday!
Welcome to the Dark History podcast. Today I’m talking all about conjugal visits, which is basically when prisoners are allowed some private time with a visitor. This topic is already pretty spicy, but finding out the history had me SHOOKETH. From hanky panky bribes to a fear of homosexuality, this is a wild one.
I appreciate you for coming by, and tune in next week for more Dark History.
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Chapters:
INTRO - 00:00
A LITTLE SOUTHERN TOWN - 02:17
A SPICY BRIBE - 07:25
THESE GAYS! - 15:27
WHY EVEN BOTHER - 22:17
IT’S ALWAYS ABOUT MONEY - 27:00
ROB’S DEMISE - 31:28
10 YEARS NO KISSES - 36:20
CONCLUSION - 40:23
Dark History is an Audioboom Original.
This podcast is Executive Produced by:
Bailey Sarian, Dunia McNeily from 3arts, Kevin Grosch, and Matt Enlow From Made In Network
Writers: Katie Burris, Allyson Philobos, Joey Scavuzzo, and Bailey Sarian
Research provided by: Xander Elmore & The Dark History Research Team
Special thank you to Historical Consultants: Ro and Adam Clausen
Production Lead: Brian Jaggers
Post Supervisor: Kelly Hardin
Production Management: Ross Woodruff
Hair: Prince Angel
Makeup: Roni Herrera
I'm your host -- Bailey Sarian

[@JessicaNichole89]

I love how Bailey always giggles and says, "I'm not laughing because it's funny...." 😂😂😂

[@jiomayracorrea117]

Same

[@Person-jn8pf]

She’s my favorite 😅❤❤❤

[@solene2014]

​@@Person-jn8pfma maman est la meilleure nous l'aimons tous 😊😊

[@SeekingMagick]

She’s laughing because she’s uncomfortable 😉 😂

[@solene2014]

​@@SeekingMagickelle est trop marrante et belle maman j'aime quand elle dit si vous êtes des curieux chats comme moi installez vous pour un nouvel épisode j'aime aussi quand elle dit l'histoire est juteuse KZbin n'est vraiment rien sans ses vidéos 😊

[@toxiczombiewolf5692]

Bailey pleass cover the cases of indigenous woman missing in Canada and how the police did barely anything. Its sad that not many people know of their stories.

[@MissSerendipity22]

You make it sound like it’s only happening in Canada. It’s happening here in the US and no one gives a 💩. In case you weren’t aware, we have indigenous people here too. I myself am a mix of two tribes, Cherokee and Yaqui.

[@allisonoconnor8055]

All indigenous girl and women are being HUNTED in NORTH AMERICA whatever side of the 49th parallel your on😮😢🤬💔🎯🤯

[@eringustafson8620]

Definitely a problem all over Turtle Island, unfortunately. It deserves to be covered, for sure.

[@GhostKing-kx7hd]

Definitely a problem on every rez Canada and US but it's real bad here on the Fort Peck Rez in Montana

[@TheFifthWorld22]

Let this be healed

[@tegalicocious]

Bailey is the only one that will make me listen to history about conjugal visits… where will I apply such knowledge??? And I am not even American 🙄

[@julieslovelyworld]

At this point, I know as much US history and geography my Greek mind can hold. And about cults. I'm a cult expert by now after all these true crime docs I've watched.

[@beautifulellie1223]

@julieslovelyworld I agree about the cults. Most already covered I've never heard of prior, and some I've heard various favorite true crime people cover, and am still shocked by how much is discussed.

[@julieslovelyworld]

@@beautifulellie1223 cults terrify me. Even though Greek people aren't so religious anymore (especially the younger ones), the vast majority identifies as Greek Orthodox and we hostorically have no cults or very few. Cults scare me so much that they are one of the two reasons I wouldn't want my son to move in the US when he grows up.

[@solene2014]

J'ai envie de dire aux gens que tu es ma maman Tatie Bailey tu me traites bien comme ta propre fille merci maman 😊😊

[@staciwiley7928]

@@julieslovelyworld i'm a former cult member

[@Amandariley06238]

Not all inmates are evil people. The facility my husband is at requires them to buy their own tablets to have video visitations. Thank you for making them sound like human beings!❤

[@mdowling4827]

The thing I think a lot of people forget is that at some point most inmates will be released. If you want them to be rehabilitated when they go back into the world they need to be treated humanely.

[@Nattfika]

Bailey: If you're gonna get arrested, do it in Sweden. Me, who just moved to Sweden: On it, boss. 👌

[@marciceja4266]

Friend! Are you ok??

[@tealeaflist]

@Natfika. "Is it True, that Prison Escape is Not Illegal in some countries in Scandinavia? '

[@hodanhashi6096]

@@tealeaflistin germany

[@tealeaflist]

@@hodanhashi6096Thank you.

[@AshleeSmashlee]

I would also like to move to Sweden! How'd you do it??

[@denisemoulton3372]

Speaking of red houses, a story on the “red light discricts” would be interesting

[@rivenharlow]

I second the circumcision deep dive!! It's crazy how much misinformation there is about it in the US, and why it's standard here but not in most other countries.

[@CarpeNutella]

And it's very much a woman's issue 😅

[@blueeyedscorpio7]

Bailey, you definitely need to make some pjs with dark history printed on it like the ones you're wearing in this video🙂

[@alyssaaguayo6236]

Smart idea

[@lanahaxer]

I thought she did?

[@blueeyedscorpio7]

@@lanahaxer Not yet

[@solene2014]

​@@blueeyedscorpio7 un épisode sur les pijamas dark history ça pourrait être intéressant merci pour la suggestion 😊

[@desert_holly]

I would 200% definitely wear those!! 🖤

[@shanaynei]

Would you consider doing a dark history episode on puppy mills or animal shelters? Most may not be aware of the horrors behind them 😢

[@sidney1574]

Hey so I recently took up a job this summer working for a nuclear pharmacy. And have learned some very odd things about peoples opinions on chemo therapy, given some completely refuse to do it, due to the side affects, and for others it's a life saving technology. Would you be willing to do an episode on the dark history of nuclear medicine?

[@CharleeDollxx]

I second this!

[@rachelleensor3147]

I wld be scared to do it, but maybe that's why I'm not Bailey!

[@Notrolleftbehind]

Use the link in the description

[@Menagerie_K]

That’d be awesome. I’m in healthcare and I’ve also seen people reject proven solutions and cures in favor of prayer and oils. I’ve never seen these decisions turn out well

[@TkO.Always]

Yes!!!! Id watch !

[@peculiarpatman4160]

I’m dying as soon as you said ‘p**sy’ the ad came up saying ‘JUST EAT - WE GOT IT IT IT IT IT’😭😭🤣🤣 perfectly timed

[@mippyflippy6706]

After hearing you talk about this, I actually started thinking about the effects from the lock downs. People started really missing the interpersonal connections and it really had a negative impact on people mentally. I don't tend to have much sympathy for inmates, but I also strongly believe they should have the opportunity to be reformed and become a better person. Allowing them interactions with friends and family could make an enormous difference. It's horrible that prisons are getting rid of training and learning opportunities for them also.

[@lorihutchins8442]

Sadly, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE outside of the situation cares at all!! Ask any random person on the street, 0 empathy, unless they hv a loved one in prison, I guarantee ppl think prisoners & their families are unworthy of rights & basic human decency. Sending love to all who are struggling. 💜

[@daniellewillis2767]

Fight the Prison Industrial Complex Bailey...you rock!!

[@SA-sb2wh]

My cousin did time in Mexico (5years) he had a taco stand, and on Sundays the whole family can come around and buy food,crafts, sweets from prisoners 😯 he talked about it for years after he was released he even had a couple pictures. Wild

[@michievee3852]

Nice

[@foreverescue]

Hi Bailey! A "tire biter" is what rural/farm people call dogs that chase cars and literally try to bite the tires. Most dogs know what they're doing and some get run over 😢😢😢 How rude of someone to call you a tire biter. You don't just chase after ANY dark story. I've learned more from your Dark History than I ever learned in school. Thanks for doing these shows. ❤❤❤

[@MissShembre]

They didn't call her a tirebiter-- that was their username. But thanks for explaining!

[@LoveWithinWalls]

As someone who has had several family visits myself, I want to shout from the rooftops how rehabilitating they are! Not even just for the incarcerated but us too. 48 hours of normalcy is so amazing.

[@janessastrachan3682]

Thank you for bringing up how a lot of places are doing video call visits only‼️ it’s so inhumane to me my family member doesn’t even want to get on the calls because they say it’s worse to see me thru a screen and see how much I’ve changed since they last saw me…. It’s so heartbreaking

[@emmyluvscake]

Hi Bailey! Love you! Stay safe! Maybe for a Dark history please cover the Dark History of treaties between the U.S Government and Indigenous tribes. Thank you!

[@shanmarielewis330]

YESSS!!! I feel like she could do a whole series on that. 😒

[@allisonoconnor8055]

Aren't they most signed AT THE PLEASURE of the PRESIDENT 🤷🏼🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@S.Lethrud]

It would be fitting for many to learn about the dark side of Thanksgiving

[@Notrolleftbehind]

She has a link in every video to recommend something but she’s done a few videos about indigenous people topics

[@ladyesylvermoon]

History class is in session!! My favorite teacher is in the house!!! Lots of love to you, Bailey!!!

[@Day2dayshenanigans]

She is my favorite teacher too!!!

[@gracelynnharrison5737]

Thank you Bailey for your dedication. ❤My 2 month old son and I listen to you while we are home alone on many nights. He knows you as auntie Bailey. Your voice comforts us when daddy is away. Sending hugs and baby smiles. ❤

[@geovannadeoliveira3692]

i'm on my period and this made me cry

[@dawsonrude7054]

Our prisons don’t want to reform prisoners. They want to have as many as possible because every inmate means more government money

[@brunettevlogging]

Most of the prisoners are a lost cause.

[@S-ram-z]

How do they make money on them? They pay staff to work there and for all of their healthcare.

[@Smiley35S]

Bingo

[@Smiley35S]

​@@S-ram-zPhone calls, commissary, video visits, emails ect...I put money on my penpals books yesterday it was a 4.00 fee for 10.00.

[@Smiley35S]

@@LovelyLadyLocks what do you mean?

[@tanyahandley3466]

My father and brother have both been to Parchment Penitentiary. They both say that to this day conditions there are horrific. Some images were leaked whenever a bunch of inmates took over a few different blocks of the prison where the rest of the prison went on lockdown and this went on for a week I believe. The staff couldn't control the inmates and when they tried to they used excessive force. In the videos you could see 2 dead bodies that inmates claimed to have been there before the revolution or whatever. The toilets are overflowing, some sinks don't work in the cells, rats, cockroaches, and in general the structure of the prison is in deplorable conditions preventing heating and cooling from work properly.

[@louiseodea5333]

Just got dumped and the only thing I’m comfortable watching absolutely depressed beyond belief, is Bailey. Thankyou. 🖤

[@jackiedee64]

In the early 70s, my mom, sister, brother, and I would go see our dad in San Quenton for 3 days. We would stay in a two bedroom house. I remember it being really nice.

[@Smiley35S]

Yes! They are little trailers and that's why we call them trailer visits.

[@Mimi-cq4bg]

For profit prisons is the first step of where things went wrong

[@DieselTheDog]

Thank you for covering this! American prisons are abbohrent and dehumanizing

[@Smiley35S]

As a prison girlfriend I agree

[@paigeperry9798]

You should do a DH on the morbid history of the Aztecs 😳😳 btw love you 🥰

[@ariell3770]

I hope you can do a video about Claudette Colvin and how they didn’t use her as the face as the bus movement

[@rachelleensor3147]

I'm SO glad this is brought to the surface!!! Hopefully more ppl will see how BAD our prison system is! If it has had any improvements, ppl with money have come in & squashed it out, made it disappear, or come up with a "legal" reason why it's "not working". SO frustrating!

[@brookejohnson5222]

Whoop whoop its the most wonderful day of the week!! Another Bailey Sarian upload blessing us with her presence and knowledge! As always you are a rockstar and stay true to you love you! ❤️🐝🌻❤️

[@kristalvelez554]

When my brother was in jail, the only time that we were allowed to touch him was whenever we first got there to hug him, and then whenever we were going to leave to hug him otherwise we weren’t allowed.

[@rachelleensor3147]

U also have to keep ur upper body (arms, hands) above the table at all times, which I didn't follow bcuz I put my hands tucked in my lap as I naturally do, or inside my thighs when I cross my legs as I'm sitting, either way, it wasn't intentional & I was given a warning that next time I wld be escorted out against my will. I see why that's a rule, but I also see how it is in a way, in-humane.

[@yurielcundangan9090]

Bailey got guts. It’s nice to see someone stick on their own values

[@kodycrum3418]

Thank you Bailey for this episode. I did a long time in prison and during the pandemic, was the worst time of my life. In there or anywhere... but having to go years without a visit from my family. Again thank you..

[@benyarder8097]

This whole episode reminds me of System Of A Downs song called Prison Song. It’s sad to see that things have gotten worse in the 20ish years since that song came out. Thank you Bailey

[@welshbirdasmr7789]

This was so informative and totally changed my mind regarding this subject. It totally makes sense that regular visit time from loved ones would install a sense of calm and what life lives ahead for them after prison. Keep up the great work!

[@lynnking4451]

I looove listening to you!! My hubs is like…”Why are you always up sooo late?!” I’m like…well, I can read a book..OR…listen to Bailey! She’s basically reading me a ‘story’…❤😉🤣

[@EpicGammingVids]

Love you, Bailey! Blessed to have you as my entertainment and education !!!

[@alexisharrison6306]

We love you Bailey ❤ your content always makes my Mondays & Thursdays better 🫶🏾🙏🏾

[@kaylawest2088]

So glad you've made an episode about this, because I have always wondered about conjugal visits.

[@manuelmejia4481]

Need more people like you in the world

[@sharonwestmoreland6980]

Hi Bailey I have been in rehab and I’m just wondering how all rehabs around the world or at least the US work. See you on the the screen. JUST A THOUGHT! STAY SAFE. I LOVE YOU!📺

[@mr1727]

You should look up the rehab shuffle (mostly occurs in Florida) but it’s a big issue in the USA. Rehabs for the lower income are a scam

[@cutelatina00508]

How sad :/ thank you Bailey for shining a light into this❤

[@TheVirtualFashionista]

Wow, that was way sadder than I thought it was going to be. What is even the point of a prison system that dehumanises rather than rehabilitates? So sad.

[@AshleyCMallen]

Interested in you doing an episode on Scientology. I tried searching to see if you have covered this topic already, but it didn't look like it. Recently started listening to your channel and I am hooked!

[@lizyoder470]

I’ve heard of other podcast hosts being harassed for doing Scientology deep dives… so idk if it would be a great idea! (Even though I’d love it too!)

[@tirebiter1680]

When I hear conjugal I think of the show where the Simpsons were in prison and there was a group of "Conjugal visit trailers" rocking back and forth

[@pamelaleftwich7296]

😂 I love your work! You know when to save us from the dark content with your humor 😂! You're the best Bailey🎉😅!

[@rosket6855]

This was a great one. Thank you for bringing up this topic. It something I never really thought about until now.

[@tinkachick10]

Love you Bailey! Blessed to have you as my entertainment and education

[@moraplencovich2683]

Don't forget to talk in your next episode about the bear that served in the Polish army during WWII, Wojtek! Love youuu💘💘

[@AlyxandriaDiaz420]

Bailey I love how you cover the topics that get overlooked so often. You’re such an amazing person.

[@EM-yc5il]

I love that you did an episode on this 👏 you're amazing Bailey!

[@jessiestoss2687]

Thank you for the upload Bailey! Love and appreciate everything you do!

[@yurielcundangan9090]

This is why I love Bailey more

[@trumpetlover12]

Love you Bailey 🥰😍😍❤❤❤ Don't ever stop telling history/stories you're great at it

[@jenniferpage883]

Thank you! I love your topics and they really impact how I think. Awesome!

[@elizabethwillis885]

There should be more “family visits.” There should be visits allowed in a very comfortable setting. Like a living room setting where the kids of the prisoner can hang out with dad. They can have a meal together, watch tv, play a board game, and just hang out all day. Kids need this with their parent to keep up their relationship and they need the bonding time.

[@peace1963]

Prison is no place to bring a child and prison is not there for people's comfort.

[@nataliaalfonso2662]

I mean sure….. but maybe all citizens who are not in jail should be granted this right first???? If many of the people incarcerated in the first place ever had that growing up, they probably wouldn’t be incarcerated.

[@elizabethwillis885]

@@peace1963 children visit prisons all the time. Therefore if it’s going to happen anyway, make it a better place for bonding.

[@peace1963]

@@elizabethwillis885 I didn't say that children weren't allowed in prison or weren't taken there. I said prison is no place to take a child. The thought of making it like home for them, definitely gives the wrong impression. If you've committed a crime you lose all rights until you've completed your sentence. That includes access to children. Half the population in prison are perverts, and you want to bring your children into that.

[@drakeaniha2023]

Prison is for punishment and part of that is missing time with your kids if you commit a crime. Maybe they should have thought about their kids before doing something that would take them from them in the first place.

[@randi_bee]

Lol your Shakira is spot on Bailey!! Thanks for bringing light to this topic ❤️

[@summerrobinson1705]

Yay. My fav. Part of the day spending it with Bailey ❤

[@DorkThink]

Mwah! Love you, grrrrl. Thank you for taking my mind off painful world events.

[@yoboi01]

I've gone from listening to Bailey at night before bed too listening to her in the morning too 😅. I've seen a few copy cats pop up which is crazy, no one can do what Bailey does !! OG Baby !! ❤

[@marianaalvarez8995]

Bailey makes history so much fun and interesting 😅😊

[@minthar5456]

Looking forward to more mystery monday !!!!

[@lorilynn4808]

Thank you for covering this topic Bailey

[@jill9405]

I never knew any of this. Thank you Bailey and team for the video, I learn so much from this channel.

[@TwizzlerGirl]

I love how she gives us the topic for the up coming week ❤

[@Cross-ze3jb]

Great job. History that's easy to comprehend.

[@ZAB_Nailz]

I cannot wait for next weeks episode! Please tell me you’ll talk about Wojtek

[@alexacordova2521]

Thank you for another great video

[@judibrindle136]

Hey Bailey!! Loved the episode on conjugal visits..WHO KNEW??!! I think a timely subject might be racism or Asia/Jewish hate. Even explaining the general quarrel between Hamas and the Jews. Love your episodes here and MMM. Keep learning stuff!!❤❤

[@katarinastefaniuk2272]

You are amazing Bailey!! Such a professional! 👏

[@kathrinealdridge1592]

This was such a great topic!!!

[@GeneralSnuggles]

Hi Bailey! I am wondering if you could make a dark history about Vincent Van Gogh he seemed to have a mysterious, sad and pretty terrible life but I would like to learn more! Awesome video as always :3

[@HVS-gk7oo]

Just Google him.

[@fursecmic633]

I would love this too

[@breakfastattiffanys741]

Not just him, an episode on Mad Artists would be great!!

[@rachelrogers8051]

Bailey can you please do a story about Carlos Robledo Puch? Love your videos ❤

[@lindseypoindexter702]

Thank you for talking about the prison system! It is so horrific.

[@lobaetoile8440]

This episode means so much to me... Thank you. Just, thank you.

[@deannacuevas4965]

Current prison wife here, I’m sending this to Utah’s mayor 😂 or where ever I have to send it to!! Loved this. I wish we could get these. My man’s been gone 10 years. 💔

[@manuelmejia4481]

Great video much Respect keep up the great work

[@sharaineroberts8537]

WOW! I was looking forward to this episode

[@colleenakakokoslay6058]

HEY... I thought this "Dark History" tonight was pretty interesting I learned.. that's cool.. love listening to you... I to try not laugh..but sometimes it just happens!😂

[@crystalpieper3533]

Bailey, as a correctional officer, the largest problem most prisons have is the introduction of contraband during visits. No contact is not the solution, but then again neither is full conjugal visits. There has to be the want of the inmate to change before anything can be done.

[@Smiley35S]

What about those of us women who just want to see our men and have no intention of bringing in anything that is not allowed?

[@chaney220]

Prison is NOT a place for children.

[@M123Xoxo]

@@Smiley35S Find a better man that isn't a criminal?

[@mr1727]

I agree no contact isn’t the solution as “there’s a will there’s a way” and plenty of contraband comes in via employees as well.

[@katscratchfever3506]

@@mr1727this

[@UnapologeticallyDifferent]

I have been a sub & have been watching you for years now. I have Always wanted to tell you just how Amazeballs you are, and that you do such a Fantastic job! You Have to be So Incredibly Proud of yourself...cause I know we all are! 😉🤗❤

[@eddiesland93]

Bailey I love all your mystery conspiracies

[@katiemarie7065]

please do a video on the story of lacey fletcher!!!! i find that case really fascinating

[@MsRandom24]

I’ve been watching your vids for years, I adore almost all of them! You have only scratched the surface of what the men in our prison system encounter. I work with men and women reentering. Anything you have seen in the movies is tame compared to the reality.

[@jims6056]

Hi Bailey! Love watching your videos! Please do a dark history episode on beauty pageants.

[@MusicbyCara]

Dark history is my favorite. Thanks for making these!! 🙏 🎉

[@joannemcfadden6405]

This one, I don’t agree with. I feel like if you do someone harm, go to prison, you should not get to spend time alone with your lover. I don’t know, but I this is just my opinion.

[@rs2gethere]

This was an interesting topic. Thanks Bailey please do an episode on Black Wall Street.

[@MommaJenbo]

This was incredibly interesting (and also sad). Thanks for making this. I know you said a couple times it's a weird subject but maybe talking about it on a big platform like yours can help change that.

[@rubyjeanalbers9330]

Yayyy dishes and BAIILEEYY!!!!❤️ I love you so much, have been watching you since I was on bed rest for having 2nd semon devil 3 and a half year's ago!! Lol ⚘️🪷💕

[@faithcarmody9808]

YES IM SO HAPPY I GET TO SPEND THE REST OF MY DAY AT WORK WITH YOU

[@janessastrachan3682]

Rightttt best part of the shift is when I see a notification from Bailey!

[@brandywhite4138]

Ok, so I was just thinking , Bailey's Dark History should be a required subject high school History class. Like have the students watch Bailey every Thursday and learn the true history. Not the cookie cutter history being taught today. Just a suggestion ❤

[@michele1083]

Thanks for pointing out the topic of prisons in our country.

[@trevonwhite4618]

Hey Bailey! Been watching for years :3 love you! Was wondering if you have ever thought of doing an episode on the dark history of lullabies? 😮

[@MoxTheWalrus]

slightly unrelated but crazy to think that the only place in the us where you're guaranteed healthcare is prison (its terrible but still)

[@blueeyedscorpio7]

Or dental work.

[@Smiley35S]

Pretty sure you still have to pay for it but I could be wrong

[@lorettacarrillo9240]

So I thought I heard a story of them stopping it because a few prisoners killed the people or wives that came and seen them. So it’s the safety of outsiders too

[@lillyramirez2425]

I love Bailey's channel so much! Bailey please do an episode on cabin fever. I think it would make a great episode and that it would be interesting for you to research.

[@StephanieSallieSings]

I love Bailey.. only channel I listen to in my headphones at work and bust out laughing randomly 🤣

[@minmanlapaz6628]

I hope Bailey can make a dark history or muder mystery make up about the man in russia who made dolls out of kids he dug out of graves, its kinda interesting . This episode is an eye opening Keep it up