Making A Case for the Return of Demise in Tears of the Kingdom

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Wiz Catches Lightning

Wiz Catches Lightning

Күн бұрын

Using known details from previous Zelda games and recent trailer details from Tears of the Kingdom, I make a case for the return of Demise in the upcoming Zelda game.
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0:00 Intro
0:39 Skyward Sword Recap
2:02 The Curse of Malice
2:31 Six Facts regarding Demise
4:41 Fast Forward to Tears of the Kingdom
6:18 If Ganondorf is dead, who receives the Triforce of Power?
7:18 Ganondorf is possessed
8:15 Broken Master Sword
10:40 Demise Tree
12:50 Ghirahim's Nature and Demon Tribe Curse
15:26 Nature of Gandondorf/Demise
17:05 Conclusion and Sources
#tearsofthekingdom #zelda #nintendo

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@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Everyone, I am notoriously terrible at math. I meant 1% rate of decay (or .01 when viewed as a decimal)/millennia and NOT .01%. Cheers!
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Also, Ganon/Ganondorf can return if he comes into contact with Link's blood (Zelda II)!
@IamKiener
@IamKiener Жыл бұрын
Those demon plants are like-likes bro. 😂
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
@@IamKiener thank you for pointing this out! I’ll need to take a closer look, but after thinking about it, that sounds right
@IamKiener
@IamKiener Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning of course... great video BTW! Keep up the awesome content!
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
@@IamKiener thanks! I really appreciate that 🤗
@freshairkaboom8171
@freshairkaboom8171 Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted a Zelda game where Ganondorf is freed from Demise's control and actually fights for the side of good. Perhaps this is the perfect opportunity to make that a reality. Maybe the sceam Ganondorf makes in the final trailer is not him asserting his dominance through overwhelming ressurection and control of malice, but rather a desperate shout for freedom from the malice in his body. A shout shortly followed by the emergence of the King of Demons himself from Ganondorf.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
I really like that cathartic idea! Thanks for sharing 🤗
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE this theory, in fact I REALLY REALLY hope this is going to happen too! However…….Ganondorf looks kinda angry when he screams. Plus, I dont think he is going to get a redemption arc because he says, *”Do not look away, you witness a King’s revival*”. Kinda evil if ya ask me, not gonna lie
@sandboxsoldier864
@sandboxsoldier864 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been thinking pretty much the same thing since the Final Trailer, Glad to know someone else thinks alike
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
@@sandboxsoldier864 I wish I had 60 more days to air out all of my idea xD
@AmalGum001
@AmalGum001 Жыл бұрын
Ganondorf isn't controlled by Demise though.
@realguitarjayde
@realguitarjayde Жыл бұрын
long term zeldatube content lurker. your video was one of the best researched and put together that i’ve seen in a long time - especially at a time when the big tubers are basically putting out junk and riffing on 10 seconds of news for 10 minutes (no shame i get it). well done.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jayde! I love talking Zelda, and I felt a need to make content in response to what I’ve been seeing from others about Zelda theories. I wonder how this video would be received if I posted it in r/ToTK 🤔 🤣
@vaisli3136
@vaisli3136 Жыл бұрын
wholly agreed, just found this channel and it's by far my new favorite. and a good voice to accompany that
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
@@vaisli3136 I appreciate the compliments! Also thanks for watching another video I recommended. Happy to have you around, but also, feel free to poke at any holes you may see in my theories so I can stay on track for the community 😂
@garrettlambert714
@garrettlambert714 Жыл бұрын
I second what Jayde said. 💯
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
@@garrettlambert714 thanks for watching another video of mine! I’m not going to bat 1,000 on content that everyone appreciates, but comments like this keep me motivated to continue making quality content regardless of people liking my ideas.
@theking8347
@theking8347 Жыл бұрын
Well, Impa's case, we know due to BotW Sheikah don't usually live that much longer than other humans. Purah is the oldest Sheikah alive at the time of BotW (not counting the monks), and she's only 124. Impa, her younger sister, is around 120 and is clearly on her last legs. The fact that Impa faded away at the end of Skyward Sword similar to the monks suggests me that her life was also artificially extended.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
I think that’s an excellent point to acknowledge. Impa using the word “slowly” just left so much room for my imagination 😂
@cajunking5987
@cajunking5987 Жыл бұрын
You wouldn’t believe how long it took to learn Impa and Purah were sisters
@riley9577
@riley9577 Жыл бұрын
Now re releasing skyward sword makes sense . Forgot he was even trapped in the sword that gets broken
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Yup and Fujibayashi was the director of Skyward Sword, BOTW, and TOTK.
@elsiebartlett6808
@elsiebartlett6808 Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a prediction on the tree/roots. Though Link activates the light roots and repels the malice, I assumed that the tree Ganondorf is regenerating in is connected to them all and seems to be interwoven with the depths of the Hyrule Castle seal itself. Seemed like he was attempting to corrupt and take control over all of it.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
There’s some sort of mythology tied to all of it, and I was trying to look into this further, but it’s proving to be difficult. My mind can’t help but draw parallels from Sekiro with the Divine Dragon who is tied to the Everblossom. Maybe I’ll find something I can convey if I look hard enough/get more creative with my searches!
@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099
@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 Жыл бұрын
Also there’s a theory that Demise’s sword later became the Kokri sword. The red gem, and the fact that the gilded sword’s design is very similar to Ghirahim. It’s most likely not true and doesn’t have a lot of evidence but it’s a nice fun little theory. Edit was the fact that I can never remember how to exactly spell Ghirahim
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Any idea where I can find a video explaining this theory?
@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099
@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning no, it’s just a thing online I’ve read a few times. You can most likely find it mentioned elsewhere online. I originally found out this theory from a random KZbin comment on a Zelda theory video
@mazehdar
@mazehdar Жыл бұрын
Will watch this later. Thank you for another video 🙏🏻
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
No doubt. Thanks for the future view!
@power-backinblack
@power-backinblack Жыл бұрын
Dude you're on way to being a great one. Wish I had the ability to clip like you. You're badass bro
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Comments like that keep me going and I sincerely appreciate it 😎
@joshsmith7033
@joshsmith7033 Жыл бұрын
They've kept gannondorf half alive for 10,000 years. That's why he was never allowed to reincarnate.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
I like the darkness surrounding that idea. Anonuma and co did say tears of the kingdom would be darker
@eb924
@eb924 Жыл бұрын
in the time gannon was sealed made the malace slowly become more dense concentrations of malice what would cause for it to become a differnt term to it wich its then called gloom
@adar1873
@adar1873 Жыл бұрын
You don’t get a triforce piece based on how much you represent the specific attribute, but instead how much you believe in it. Ganondorf got the piece of power in OOT because that’s the attribute he believed in most, not necessarily because he was the most powerful in Hyrule.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
I can jive with that idea 😎
@optimusslime6240
@optimusslime6240 Жыл бұрын
Headcanon
@aegisxor
@aegisxor Жыл бұрын
Very well put together video! There are a few times in the narration where you say "conscience" when I think you mean "consciousness", but it is otherwise flawless.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Not sure what the complete term is, but as you can imagine, it’s hard to make annunciations in the mic. But essentially we are talking about Demise’s anima or mind.
@redstonewarrior0152
@redstonewarrior0152 Жыл бұрын
You forget that at least a billion years have passed since skyward sword.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
I addressed this issue in the video with my point made about what a Sheikah like Impa qualifies as a really long time. I also included a terrible math problem to further strengthen that argument because cosmic beings definitely perceive Time differently from humans. Demise doesn’t have the title “the Conqueror of Time” without merit 🤣
@mrplatink
@mrplatink Жыл бұрын
Man, your thought process is UNMATCHED! I think I did about 10 "mindblows" during this video--great research, analysis and speculation. I'm going to do more in-depth research for "Jubaku," as it features prominently in a book I'm writing, but THANK YOU for introducing the term to me.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Hey well thanks for the accolades! You’ll have to thank QuestWithAaron for the etymology I researched for this specific video, definitely check out the two videos I linked in the description! He has an awesome perspective on Zelda 😎
@mrplatink
@mrplatink Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning Will do. You make the wait for Tears of the Kingdom much easier to bear!
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
@@mrplatink that puts a smile on my face! Thanks😊
@mrplatink
@mrplatink Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning You're most welcome - keep going strong!
@michaelince7311
@michaelince7311 10 ай бұрын
Demise and Gannon is one and the same... Just as Zelda is the re-incarnation of Hylia... Gannon is the re-incarnation of Demise... The scar on Denise's forehead is In the same place that Gannon's stolen tear is... And the scar on his chest is where Zonai Raru sealed Gannon for some time
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 10 ай бұрын
Exactly 😎
@VenusFeuerFalle
@VenusFeuerFalle 11 ай бұрын
I kinda felt like facing Demise instead of Ganondorf for a moment, when Ganondorf in TOTK was sealed. He was enthusiastical about facing a worthy opponent. Whereas Ganondorf reacts more frustrated on being defeated, Demise loves war and destruction in all forms. His power also seems to exceed the mere secret stones by far. In the end, however, Ganondorf pretty much reacted Ganondorf-like.
@WhiteWolf2874
@WhiteWolf2874 Жыл бұрын
I think another epic battle against Demise would be great. Awesome video.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Thanks! 😊
@WhiteWolf2874
@WhiteWolf2874 Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightningNo worries! It’s great to hear someone so knowledgeable about the franchise speak about theories like this. I look forward to future videos you release 😊
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
@@WhiteWolf2874 rock n roll! Yeah Zelda Ocarina of Time was one of the earliest video games I encountered growing up. As you can probably tell, I became obsessed with the series, especially after discovering the first timeline theories 😅 And thank you. Comments like that make the effort to make this content worth it. Hope to make you proud in the future!
@Lordbritt
@Lordbritt Жыл бұрын
Really great video also btw
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I wanted to publish before the weekend but I decided to take more time to bring y’all the quality 😎
@corporalstiffy
@corporalstiffy Жыл бұрын
Great video as always Wiz!! Cant wait for the next one and for this game to come out, lets chill in discord soon!
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brad! And yessir just lmk
@basebutter
@basebutter Жыл бұрын
Watching this after release is wild.. Lol bro was COOKIN
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the other vids? Because man…👀 No idea how I did it, but I can promise you that the only stuff I saw were the artbook leaks
@giraldomedia
@giraldomedia Жыл бұрын
Amazing well thought out theory.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jesterzoutplay
@jesterzoutplay Жыл бұрын
nice job my guy
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jesterz 🤗
@mont-doggBeats
@mont-doggBeats Жыл бұрын
Seeing that last trailer with what looks like a figure that resembles demise and the sword being severely damaged..I believe demises evil essence escapes the sword in the underground tunnels, damaging links hand, reviving mummy Ganondorf and shooting towards the sky. We see the possessed Ganondorf in the trailer who summons the monsters but eventually demise takes over completely and somehow the human Ganondorf is able to be separated from demise and thats why we see the Ganondorf with the samurai sword and the ponytail looking normal and he zelda and link have to collect tears to fight demise
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Repeat after me: Demise Tree 😎
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE this theory, in fact I REALLY REALLY hope this is going to happen too! However…….Ganondorf looks kinda angry when he screams. Plus, I dont think he is going to get a redemption arc because he says, *”Do not look away, you witness a King’s revival*”. Kinda evil if ya ask me, not gonna lie
@susaac9755
@susaac9755 Жыл бұрын
I think it's kinda cool how so many people from the comunity want Ganon to be "cleansed" and for him to fight alongside Link and Zelda with Demise. If he really is a corrupted piece of the trio, maybe purification would allow them to defeat Demise?
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
If the story plays out this way, I won’t be disappointed. It’s similar to Groose’s character redemption arc in Skyward Sword. I don’t know if it’s ever said outright, but a lot of people speculate that Groose was the descendant of the Gerudo. He has red hair and topaz colored eyes.
@susaac9755
@susaac9755 Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning Well, I guess we will see. Either way, Ganon's design in Totk is really cool!
@renamamiya1837
@renamamiya1837 Жыл бұрын
quality content !
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@GameEssays
@GameEssays Жыл бұрын
While you present a nice argument I definitely disagree. It feels to me like Demise eventually became nothing as it decayed in the Master Sword. I can't prove that, I can only say that that is my best guess at the intent from the story writers. I always try to think about what the developers of the game are trying to convey, my opinion is that Demise was made to be the explanation of why Ganondorf and other villains' always seem to come about to challenge Link and Zelda. I know its not as fun as thinking Demise will come back, and of course I could be wrong. Regardless nice video!
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Hey, at the end of the day, that’s okay that you disagree! Disagreeing furthers the conversation I want my viewers to have about the Zelda series as we all wait with baited breath (of the wild) for this dang sequel to come out 🤣
@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099
@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning yeah true, plus a lot of stuff isn’t fully set in stone or confirmed so we can all theorize and agree or disagree on the finer details that interest us.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 exactly 😎👉👉
@Big_Dai
@Big_Dai Жыл бұрын
I wonder what his thoughts were after Demise was not part of TotK and there was an additional MacGuffin that came out if nowhere.. and basically gave a human Ganondorf, Demise like powers..
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
I still think Ganondorf channeled Demise in TOTK 😂
@Big_Dai
@Big_Dai Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning It is definitely a mix of both, even if they didn't specifically state it. Somehow TotK feels like a mix of all things.. just like how the Lands in Dark Souls 3 all converge in one place.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
I totally got those vibes as well. We’re on the same page my dude. Hope to see you again in the future.
@Big_Dai
@Big_Dai Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning I'm here if you need me!
@Lordbritt
@Lordbritt Жыл бұрын
Bruh you got me rolling with that “ooohhh my gawd”
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
My meme game isn’t strong, so I appreciate that 😆
@Lordbritt
@Lordbritt Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning well that sir is goated especially since it was so unexpected and it fit with the context so well 😂great stuff
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
@@Lordbritt I really love getting into the editing booth and getting creative for all of you, so again, and I genuinely mean this, thank you for that 🥹
@Lordbritt
@Lordbritt Жыл бұрын
Your welcome bro the hard work definitely shows
@jacobbonilla1968
@jacobbonilla1968 Жыл бұрын
What if on the next Legend of Zelda that all 3 Link Zelda and Ganondorf have to stop demise since therefore only needs the seal broken and doesnt need ganondorf just a vessel
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Exactly! 😎
@beeshie7763
@beeshie7763 Жыл бұрын
oh I didn't even realize this was made before the new trailer.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Please tell the rest of the internet 😂
@Rayuken87
@Rayuken87 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. It has always been pretty strange how long everyone lives in the Zelda series. Maybe time is different here. I mean the days in BoTW are pretty short I am sure since I woke up in the chamber it's been like 5 in-game years. So maybe somebody already did the math but 10000years could translate to 100 or so of our years. That makes more sense for their longevity
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah I thought that was peculiar 🤔
@zakzerak7191
@zakzerak7191 Жыл бұрын
but it think thats just for gameplay reasons. there are nearly no games of that size that have 24h per day
@Rayuken87
@Rayuken87 Жыл бұрын
@@zakzerak7191 yeah I get that just trying to find an explanation for why they live for so many years. Just a thought
@gavi_brb5345
@gavi_brb5345 Жыл бұрын
I like what you said about swords having souls. I think there's an idea somewhere in Japanese folklore that sword makers in the creation of swords, make them in twos?? But I'm not sure, just a thought!
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Hey that thought contributes to the conversation so thanks for taking the time to write it! I’ll have to look into that more!
@schizoformographagizer6499
@schizoformographagizer6499 Жыл бұрын
funnily enough the tree thing was pretty accurate
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
In its own strange way, yes 😅
@DagooseDev
@DagooseDev Жыл бұрын
I was thinking instead of Zelda dying or having her soul absorbed she would have the triforce taken from her, only managing to keep her own shard and the tiforce of power (or maybe a temporary physical triforce with the power to wish demise back) could revive ganondorf or demise
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
I like where your head is at!
@sionrusher2463
@sionrusher2463 Жыл бұрын
I would love seeing ganondorf just getting stabbed in the head bc its iconic and then like darkness flowws out of like a ton of darkness or malice and then the demise would rise to battle as the real final boss
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
That would be cool indeed 🥲 Demise also had a forehead scar from losing his central horn, where the seal spike was placed, while fighting Hylia
@shmurblethebirdmanbarbarian
@shmurblethebirdmanbarbarian Жыл бұрын
I didn’t see any scales on those roots underground
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Throw the video into editing software and zoom in on it and render the image. They’re there
@jacobbonilla1968
@jacobbonilla1968 Жыл бұрын
Also i just started playing BOTHW too
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
I’m so jealous! I’ve been waiting 6 years, man 🤣
@Tony-so1zl
@Tony-so1zl Жыл бұрын
Great ass video
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Tony, my man. Thank you 😎
@EdiTheDon
@EdiTheDon Жыл бұрын
So, Link brings Demise's misty remains with him to his own present timeline! But what happened to the past timeline where Demise was beaten? Did the gate of time make sure that the past and present are linked? But would that not mean that Ghirahim was gone and could not mess with Zelda? My head hurts. Messing with time is bad juju!
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Ghirahim just teleported out and, like young Impa, remained and technically could still be in the present like she was
@Hi_Brien
@Hi_Brien Жыл бұрын
You figured out all that before the trailer?
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
The Devil, or in this case, Demise, is in the details 😏
@power-backinblack
@power-backinblack Жыл бұрын
I know i commented alot today, my bad but dude Demise's eyes are the shape of the tears. Or at least in the clip where you compare eyes
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Having someone comment more than once on several videos is not a problem AT ALL! Keep them coming. They promote the video to other people who could potentially enjoy the channel. Excellent observation! I’ll have to take a look at that when I get a chance.
@RangerDOS
@RangerDOS Жыл бұрын
At 1:58 on the last trailer we see link facing the mummified Ganondorf that has Malice erupting from his chest. It shows that the Master Sword has already been damaged. It also shows that the glowing blue hand is now gone. Did this hand attack Link? In previous trailers it shows malice flowing out along the ground and a blue spiral going upwards. was the hand syphoning power from Malice, much like separating clean H2O from mucky water? Was it to power the Shieka or Zonai technology? 47 days plus whatever game time we'll find out, I guess...
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
That’s a really good question! And I’ve seen quite a few Zeldatubers speculate that this could be the case. It’s definitely plausible, but I have a hard time shaking the idea of a Zonai magic hand powering sheikah tech. I’m not ruling it out of the realm of possibility however!
@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099
@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 Жыл бұрын
That’s a really interesting idea to ponder while we wait… it could very well be true.
@9tim80
@9tim80 Жыл бұрын
The more that I watch videos like this, the more I believe that we would all understand the Zelda timeline(s) better if the localization teams had done their jobs correctly.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Very true
@MagnumForce51
@MagnumForce51 Жыл бұрын
As I recall the Zeldas that came after the first one only have the blood of the Goddess Hylia so I think if Demise comes back, consuming BoTW's Zelda soul won't get him much aside from maybe gaining the Triforce if she unknowingly has it. Unless I'm mistaken on the Hylia situation here. :P Though could be a moot point if Hylia makes an appearance in ToTK anyways. :P
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Yes, but the blood of the goddess (and the reincarnation of Hylia’s soul), as far as we know, gets passed from Zelda to Zelda. Zelda’s mother in BOTW would have had the soul of Hylia before she did, for example. Let me know what you think or I can explain further.
@WindMageMaster
@WindMageMaster Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning I’m pretty sure it’s just powers passed down from Hylia. We can speak with and hear her spirit in BotW when talking to goddess statues.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
@@WindMageMaster Bandit Games actually came out with a theory about that voice of the statues being Zelda’s mother (which would explain her mother’s untimely death), it’s definitely worth checking out.
@finley8858
@finley8858 Жыл бұрын
Even though it would be much cooler if Demise possessed Ganondorf. I think that there is a possibility of Ganon coming back, as I think that, even though he is likely dead, his spirit is contained in the endless malice within his corpse. If this is the case, then the Ganon could possess his corpse, as Malice has been seen being able to possess dead enemies to create the cursed skull enemies. The reason I think that his spirit could be within the malice in his corpse is that Calamity Ganon, which is formed by the collection of malice overflowing from Ganon's corpse, seems to retain an imprint of Ganon's will since it retains its boar forms and the body it creates out of Sheikah tech resembles Ganondorf.
@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099
@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 Жыл бұрын
Ganon and Ganondorf are the same person aren’t they? Or maybe I’m just misremembering 😭
@finley8858
@finley8858 Жыл бұрын
@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 yeah but i just couldnt be bothered to say ganondorf each time
@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099
@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 Жыл бұрын
@@finley8858 yeah that makes sense then
@lucasroman6510
@lucasroman6510 Жыл бұрын
I know this is wishful thinking, but i really want him to come back, just cuz his final fight was amazing But it is also very likely for him to come back, as we see he was sealed on the sword, and the sword is broken on the new game, thus maybe releasing it And we also see him in two states on the trailer, one with flowing fire like hair (just like demise) and we also see normal ganondorf
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@tanishksinha5229
@tanishksinha5229 Жыл бұрын
A pretty strong argument 🤔
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@wyldstealer
@wyldstealer Жыл бұрын
if .01% / millennia is the rate of demises decay, it would take 10,000 years for it to decay 1%. it would take 1,000,000 years to fully decay
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
You’re right. I meant .01 as in 1% instead of 1/1000th. I am notoriously bad at math and probably should have had someone look at the math before adding it in. Hopefully you didn’t find many holes in the other content presented 😆
@annaisntcool
@annaisntcool Жыл бұрын
Blatantly Dead Ganondorf™️ also, my guess is that Demise will be referenced but not appear directly. i can’t see them bringing him fully back. but i could be wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
No idea how you made the TM superscript but I’m all about it 😎 👉👉 Also thanks 😆 Yes, it’s all theoretical (wishful) thinking. I just wanted to make a case for how Demise could return and share it with you all 🥲
@annaisntcool
@annaisntcool Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning it was a dope video, my dude! it would be pretty cool if Demise did make a return
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
@@annaisntcool much appreciated! And, of course, I agree
@robinmaner3455
@robinmaner3455 Жыл бұрын
Demise has his essence trapped in the master sword, which we KNOW gets destroyed early on in TOTK. Maybe this is what releases demise onto the world?
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
It’s plausible! Thousands of years are like seconds for a cosmic being 😎
@miguelrg0503
@miguelrg0503 Жыл бұрын
To be fair Ganon from ocarina of time seems unkillalbe though all timelines fighting new links and zeldas
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
He is but the end of TP shows him losing his Triforce of Power and the Zelda Encyclopedia corroborates that he was “eliminated” in the child timeline
@greenwings6846
@greenwings6846 Жыл бұрын
Give it up for blatantly dead Ganondorf, everybody!
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
😆
@brandoncanwin
@brandoncanwin Жыл бұрын
I believe after seeing the final trailer that Ganondorf will be seen as the main Antagonist of the game but at the very end of the game, when we see Ganondorf sort of powering up he’ll transform into Demise who I strongly believe we see near the beginning of the trailer
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Rock n Roll Brandon 😎
@cdurkinz
@cdurkinz Жыл бұрын
I gotta be honest, I enjoy Ganondorf about 1000x more than Demise so I hope Demise isn't in TotK.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
I can respect that.
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 Жыл бұрын
Sorry bro but Ganondorf seems to be alive in the latest trailer. Also, I dont think he is getting redeemed
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Ganondorf being alive and Demise returning are not two mutually exclusive events 😉
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning well it kinda is in your theory
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
@@clonetrooper2003 to your credit, I made this video without considering specific points. But after seeing that final trailer, I expanded on my theory to include both. So that’s my bad. Check out my “Is this DEMISE?” video and you’ll see what I mean
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 Жыл бұрын
@@wizcatcheslightning i understand, alright
@Yod.Vav.
@Yod.Vav. Жыл бұрын
WUTTT????? ... i'm out ... this dude's trippn'
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
See ya I guess 🤣
@infiniteedge4427
@infiniteedge4427 Жыл бұрын
This video's idea his heavily flawed as it directly contradicts the game itself which shows us Demise is gone for good. First we have Fi straight up tell us he's been destroyed, and that she's absorbed his residual consciousness. 終焉の者の消滅を確認 残留する思念をマスターソードーに吸収…封印完了しました… I confirm the annihilation of Demise… I absorbed the residual thoughts into the Master Sword… The sealing has been completed… ~ Fi (Skyward Sword) Then we have Impa confirm this residual consciousness will decay within the sword with her watching over it to ensure this process is completed. そして終焉の者の思念が 剣の中で朽ち行く今・・・誰かが あの剣を見守って行かねばなりません And now that the thoughts of the One of Demise are proceeding to decay within the blade… Someone must watch over that blade. 終焉の者が 目を覚ます事があってはならない・・・世界が 再び脅威にさらされては ならないのです・・・ The One of Demise cannot awaken…this world must not be exposed to that threat again… ~ Impa (Skyward Sword) Then finally we have her death. Impa’s death: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4iYfWh5gb5mi68 Impa swore herself to a Divine task, Sheikah can live basically forever if they are awaiting the completion of a Divine task they have been entrusted with as seen in BOTW. the only way for Impa to die would for her task to be complete. which was the complete decay of Demise. In other words, there is ZERO chance of Demise ever returning.
@infiniteedge4427
@infiniteedge4427 Жыл бұрын
Additionally. Zelda does not reincarnate, she is a blood descendant and there evidence for link reincarnating is iffy at best, you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the series lore. Malice is not unique to Demise or Ganondorf. Malice is the power of Demons, it is their grudges and curses. Vaati, Malladus, Twinrova, Onox, Veran, etc. etc. are all members of the demon tribe and all have malice. Ganondorf is not some possessed man, the malice in botw is the result of his grudge being so powerful it becomes physical much like we've seen happen in games like SS where monsters (who are minor members of the demon tribe) drop malice infused crystals.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
You know, it’s instances like these where I wish I understood Japanese, but I unfortunately do not. If this is your first video of mine viewed, I suggest watching the other Zelda content before this video to better understand my perspective. Your Japanese sounds flawed, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt because (unfortunately) it’s not my native language, and it is a language I don’t understand. If your Japanese is 100% correct (we have to acknowledge that translation between any two languages is never 100% because translation between two languages is always a compromise), then your interpretation/reasoning is flawed. When you say Fi refers to Demise being annihilated, it sounds like you’re talking about Demise as a whole (Demise the being/entity) no longer existing. This can be true, while at the same time, Demise’s residual consciousness can be sealed inside of the Master Sword. So Demise the entity is gone, he no longer has form. Yet his residual consciousness is in the Master Sword. His corpus, or body, is split from his anima, his soul/mind. If Demise’s body is gone but his soul/mind remains in the Master Sword, he’s not fully annihilated (which is basically Latin for “no longer existing” or “nothing”). He wouldn’t need to be sealed within the Master Sword if he were absolutely gone. If Demise were completely gone, why would anyone need to watch over the Master Sword? That would be pointless. Why would the word “awaken”, a word applied to existing things, be mentioned regarding the possibility of Demise? Again, this implies that, yes, his body and mind are no longer connected, but he’s still very much in fact, around. “The One/Bringer of Demise cannot awaken…this world must not be exposed to that threat again…” implies that Demise can come back. These are your words. The Divine Task is a neat bit that I can accept. We see the Sheikah Shrine monks practically do the same thing in BOTW. I appreciate you sharing that.
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
The soul of Hylia reincarnates into a bloodline of Zeldas. Zelda does not reincarnate. Link, as far as we know, doesn’t come from any sort of lineage. While Links look physically similar, they’re just reincarnations of the same Spirit of the Hero. I agree that Malice isn’t unique to Demise or Gandondorf. But Demise is the king of demons. Ganondorf is an avatar of Demise’s hatred and resentment. Demise beget the curse of Malice upon the Blood of the Goddess (this implies a lineage, the same lineage Zeldas belong to) and the Spirit of the Hero. Ganondorf has not reincarnated ever. That’s a fact. Except maybe in Four Swords Adventures but the jury is out on that one for me. What was discussed in this video, was how his lack of reincarnation fueled the Malice pouring out of him like a pressure cooker, because Ganondorf is supposed to pass on and then come back, and he hasn’t done this in the beginning of Tears of the Kingdom.
@jaaythemonster
@jaaythemonster Жыл бұрын
Scribbles
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@highdefinition450
@highdefinition450 Жыл бұрын
please no, Demise is lame :/ discount Ganondorf smh
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
Well not to be “that guy” but Ganondorf is technically a discount Demise😂
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