I have no idea why I find seeing molten metal poured into ingots so soothing.
@verualcancer59888 жыл бұрын
you are one of the few blacksmiths that keep things interesting
@skarmex34396 жыл бұрын
Who else would love to hang out with Ben while he makes ingots :)
@Wysiwyg1018 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. Love that ingot. A couple of suggestions I would have are safety oriented. When polishing I would wear a glove on the hand holding the ingot being polished. The reason is because that wire brush could rotate right up your hand at some point and being barehanded you could lose some skin. Also, I would wear a clear face shield during that process. The reason is because sometimes those wires in the wire brush come loose and fly away at some pretty high speeds. That's one way to lose an eye.
@simplifygardening8 жыл бұрын
A great little furnace Ben. been saving for one myself but very expensive in the uk. great video and nice pour
@cvdo858 жыл бұрын
$250-300 incl shipping on ebay so thats £200 ore something like that not a lot money i think
@BillAC-8 жыл бұрын
I think you did a great job. Really love these kinds of videos and the excitement in your voice makes it better. Hopefully one day I'll be able to this myself. You got yourself one more subscriber.
@angrygaming83778 жыл бұрын
Bill C me too
@DioWarriorsWeb8 жыл бұрын
Well, I liked this video. Hearing your enthusiasm got me enthusiastic as well. I'll be experimenting melting some metals in a few weeks so doing a bunch of research seeing what folks have done. Enjoyable video and informative.
@phil_k7773 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I’m scrapping copper now and plan to be doing this soon too. Very helpful and informative. Thanks!
@stevenhorne16098 жыл бұрын
Looks good. I like to use a bench grinder one side with a wire wheel to clean up my castings. the other side with a polishing wheel to shine. Love the videos keep um coming.
@KevinThompson161803398 жыл бұрын
The reason why the wire produces so much flame and smoke when you dump it into the hot crucible is that the wire is insulated with a polymer film insulation. If the wire were very pure and uninsulated, it wouldn't be shiny (oxidation) and it wouldn't flame up nearly as much (no polymer to burn off). They're insulated because the coil windings have to be isolated otherwise the current just shorts across the coil and doesn't set up that nice toroidal current to get the nice linear magnetic field.
@bobby4sheds8 жыл бұрын
Kevin Thompson
@krisztianszirtes54148 жыл бұрын
What fell out at the end is called slag and not flux. Flux helps flow and degreases surface tension in water. Slag is leftover additives and oxides plus the starting crap that went in along with the metal
@thealex22008 жыл бұрын
Loved this vid, its nice to see someone so genuinely excited about this kind of thing
@MrShekoexile8 жыл бұрын
brilliant, Ben! I just sold about 40lbs of 'bright and shiny' copper wire the other day at USD1.79/lb. painful to let it go. I'm next with the furnace. thanks for all you do - instruction and inspiration, shining brightly ...
@sebastiangraham77738 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, glad it worked. Went very well and amazing how quickly it all happened. Keep them coming and some more scrap tips too.
@nejiki18 жыл бұрын
Blacksmithing increased from level 1 to level 3
@quagmier38 жыл бұрын
Wow Ben that bar really came out nice. I like that naturally poured look that yours has so much better than the extruded look that some commercially made bars have. That is going to be a great way to build up a thousand pound stack or so. Copper is only a bit over 2 dollars a pound right now and I could easily see it going back up to 4 dollars a pound again in the next few years. Bars like the one you have though will go for more than just plain ugly copper though because of its pleasing look. I have always wondered how hard it would be to make a bar like that out of phone cable or some other low grade wire. Also if you had some small ugly brass pieces laying around it would be so fun to see it being turned into a nice ingot.
@eWasteBen8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott, yeah I will be trying a brass pour soon.
@SestoElemento938 жыл бұрын
eWaste Ben Hi Ben, amazing bar! Could you provide some details as to what equipment you use? It would be much appreciated, cheers!
@eWasteBen8 жыл бұрын
this is the main website for the furnace www.china-jiuchen.com/main.asp?pid=41&id=5
@Jl4zio8 жыл бұрын
Its on fire because its enameled wire, its pure copper just coated with enamel.
@ephraimt16 жыл бұрын
GROUSE! I remember the first time I watched this, I was hooked. So much FUN!!!
@wjp64808 жыл бұрын
great job Ben. Exciting stuff
@bantalee20028 жыл бұрын
The Benjamin Mint. That is real cool Ben,you should get some kind of kickback from the company for doing a great job at advertising the product and showing what it can do and how easy it is to work with. I ordered one for my shop. Sometime during the fall of 2011 spot price for copper popped up to nearly $4.00 a pound. hang unto those bars. P.S I like your bench set up. I cringed when i seen you using the iron rod to tamp the copper into the crucible,.go to the hardware store and get a 1 1/2 inch wooden dowel x 16 inches long,depending what you prefer. I wouldn't want you to crush through your new one.
@kalleklp72918 жыл бұрын
Can't help to get a smile on my face, when I hear your enthusiasm in your voice. Nice job..! I'm in the progress of building a furnace myself, it won't be electric and not so good looking as your setup, but it'll work. What kind of flux did you use, if any?
@eWasteBen8 жыл бұрын
I just use borax
@multidimensionalexploratio39854 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! This was a lot of fun to watch and I even learned a thing or two. Thanks for posting!
@mrtrains72748 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR NAMING THE DISTRIBUTER
@SomervilleBob8 жыл бұрын
You can make a simple mold in sand to pour the metal into. Make a wood frame, press a design in and pour. There are youtube videos on how to prepare the sand.
@keiji15318 жыл бұрын
agree with that but need to be clean when pouring the molten copper on homemade mold there's sand stick on the copper ingot so needs to be clean as well
@GF_Burke8 жыл бұрын
Nice pour man. I love pouring brass the best. I think my fav things are cleaning the slag off and pouring lol! The lady and I go to the gun range, in about 20min using classifiers, we pull about 50lbs lead, 3lbs copper, 3lbs brass. Just built a new waste oil foundry. She is ready for a test tonight.
@eWasteBen8 жыл бұрын
awesome, waste oil is fantastic. good luck and keep safe
@metaldetectingwiththesilva83118 жыл бұрын
Sweet video Ben, nice job mate!
@Coruphius8 жыл бұрын
Awesome work mate! Always wanted to melt some metals :)
@uberism818 жыл бұрын
Cool! You need to get a nice personalized stamp for next time.
@ericwazner65214 жыл бұрын
Money!!! Love it! just got my Little furnace and cant wait to make my first Copper Bar!!!
@oscarnuno21688 жыл бұрын
awesome video. love the accent and the way you did the video. keep it up!!
@ericlaplante83398 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, its probably been said already but weight your copper before you melt it. You can get quite accurate final weights. Congrats and welcome to the ingot club!!
@JohnnySwedishScrapper5 жыл бұрын
how long did it take to melt the copper before you could pour it
@knglaser8 жыл бұрын
you can use diluted sulfuric acid to get rid of the oxides and borax/flux
@sammy55768 жыл бұрын
the "impurities" is the thin vanish insulator coating on the wire
@Luci4_8 жыл бұрын
Samuel Wilson fdvdf
@Alrik.6 жыл бұрын
Haha I'm glad you're so happy about making these, looking forward to all your other smelting videos!
@renosralphprospecting1388 жыл бұрын
You might wanna use a scotchbrite or another brush to clean it. Bronze brushs usually just cover, not clean.
@7wy573D8 жыл бұрын
try using a vice with wood slats on both sides to hold tightly without damaging the ingot. makes polishing easier and safer.
@MrJob918 жыл бұрын
Really really cool video!
@DioWarriorsWeb8 жыл бұрын
Wow! That came out very nice.
@herpderpnoob8 жыл бұрын
Great Pour Ben, Keep it coming :D
@karlp50078 жыл бұрын
Awesome work mate ! Thanks for the video !
@JKPound8 жыл бұрын
the brass wire wheel makes it look like gold
@brando31648 жыл бұрын
Nice video you can weigh up the copper before you melt it. Every pound of copper go one ounce over should give you what you want each time in weight. Thank you for the video best wishes
@flacoral8 жыл бұрын
Watch Rick Gunter making copper sheets out of tubing and he has a wash that he calls "pickling" and it takes the oxidation off of it. Might save you some polishing.
@jepeo18 жыл бұрын
I know you were all excited and I would be too. But safty first sir. always wear gloves and eye potection when working.
@randomgaming52408 жыл бұрын
how much does a machine cost where'd you get it at
@jacekatzung74998 жыл бұрын
I recommend that for it to cool quicker leave the crucible out of the forge
@disposophobic7 жыл бұрын
Great job! It came out beautiful. I always see people dump the TVs in like alleys and stuff instead of using e-waste to recycle. Now I'm going to bring a little power screw driver with me. Wow, thanks for all the info!
@mikekarrie34128 жыл бұрын
hey Ben next visit you should smelt some mlccs and have the ingot tested at the scrap yard like you did the gold foils
@17hmr2438 жыл бұрын
try hammering the wire to make it more condense
@SEEVCar8 жыл бұрын
If you mix by weight 11% aluminium and 89% copper you get a really nice golden colour Aluminium Bronze.
@ba2hln148 жыл бұрын
tip: use the mold itself as a crucible so you can get the ingot in a perfect shape
@asiaancient35475 жыл бұрын
Coool furnace How can I buy? And How much?
@flametongu8 жыл бұрын
Nice furnace
@destroya33037 жыл бұрын
With all that graphite dust coming out at the end, how can you be sure this didn't end up inside that copper?
@Persian_Rug_Merchant8 жыл бұрын
A mighty little fine copper ingot!
@wetwriterrr7 жыл бұрын
I have a mix of mostly copper and some brass bullet casing which I melted out the lead centers. Since brass melts at lower temperature will I be able to pour off, leaving only the copper solids. I have no experience in melting high temp metals, and can't bear throwing this metal out.
@eddiesedgewig16992 жыл бұрын
I love watching copper melt. Have you ever watched Heinrichs Made? He does this all the time.
@JoshuaEarlEmery8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thank you so much for sharing .
@T0R4HB0y8 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Great video and Melting!
@griffon32758 жыл бұрын
that appears to be a : Kerr 3 Kg, 120 VOLT US Automatic Electro-Melt Maxi Furnace and according to the manufacturer is not recommended for melting copper as it will damage inner core any update on how long this lasted ?
@eWasteBen8 жыл бұрын
the link to the furnace is in the description, works good.
@torchandhammer8 жыл бұрын
Oh man, you're going to need a special shrine to stack all those copper bars, with seductive mood lighting to reveal the burnished sheen of the copper.
@mman4547 жыл бұрын
Just a warning for anyone trying this, although you do heat up your mold to prevent the hot metal popping (steam explosion), you still need to remember that what you have your mold on may also hold water (cinder blocks, concrete, etc). So while your mold may not "pop" the concrete can if you spill or if the mold cracks.
@DIESELMAN8V928 жыл бұрын
kick ass :) what kind of furnace is that and what is the voltage? and how much does it cost?
@eWasteBen8 жыл бұрын
link is in the description
@Kaaskop846 жыл бұрын
A beautiful clean bar Ben! Enjoyed it a lot!
@CricketyChris8 жыл бұрын
how about pouring on your scale to make the ingots uniform in weight? I would definitely have some sort of insulator in-between your scale and the mold to protect your scale but should work right?
@jessenorris16728 жыл бұрын
hi Ben could you take it and have it tested and post you purity?
@QarbitraryQ8 жыл бұрын
Hey ben you can always weigh it before you put it in.
@opdestroyer9378 жыл бұрын
That look's amazing
@mikewest90338 жыл бұрын
how do you plan to clean the black stuff off what is that the impurities
@spectre44218 жыл бұрын
dude where did you buy ur furnace?
@eWasteBen8 жыл бұрын
www.china-jiuchen.com/main.asp?pid=41&id=5
@uncle_thulhu6 жыл бұрын
Looks like a chocolate bar that's bloomed a little. I haven't heard anyone describe anything as "grouse" in years. Thanks for that.
@mindofmetal8 жыл бұрын
Nice Ben,always fun to see what your up to :-)
@RoomiesGarage8 жыл бұрын
loved the entertainment ..that was awesom....thanks
@heading75938 жыл бұрын
Either way great video. Like your voice it defiantly makes the video better.
@derickmitchell55218 жыл бұрын
how much does that lil furnace cost and who sells them?
@eWasteBen8 жыл бұрын
link is in the description
@MajesticPanda18 жыл бұрын
You should try mixing 2 metals together like silver and copper and see what happens. I haven't found anybody on KZbin who has done that yet
Where did you get the foundry because I really want one
@TheNintendobomb8 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say the same question
@matto5058 жыл бұрын
TheNintendobomb me too
@eWasteBen8 жыл бұрын
link of the manufacturer the video description, you probably need to email them
@matto5058 жыл бұрын
eWaste Ben thanks
@matto5058 жыл бұрын
eWaste Ben I love your videos
@Mycobob8 жыл бұрын
The link to the furnace isn't working for me mate.
@eWasteBen8 жыл бұрын
Try it now, or copy & paste into your browser
@chrisharris55358 жыл бұрын
Little help for you and keeping your crucible for a long time. get a circular Bunsen burner stand/tripod from ebay and when your done, instead of putting crucible back in the forge, slide it into the Bunsen stand, cools way quicker and sits perfectly.
@strangelyfamiliar17295 жыл бұрын
I didnt scroll through all the comments but did look for a bit and didnt find a reply or response to questions re. the price of the smelter in this vid'. I dont think i'd buy one personally, cheaper to build one i imagine, just curious, how much for the melty thing there? Checked 'Description' after my comment/question and found link for furnace there. Thnx!
@gpcaraudio8 жыл бұрын
What's up man, where did you get your furnace from? that seems to be a nice all in one unit
@ghiblinerd61968 жыл бұрын
Forgive my ignorance; why go through the trouble of making these ingots and how did you get so much copper wire from TVs? Were they old SD TVs?
@eWasteBen8 жыл бұрын
Because it's fun and I like ingots, yes, old tv's you can find free
@tinyzoo8 жыл бұрын
Love your enthusiasm!
@steve39643 жыл бұрын
Where does the borax go? Do you worry that it will go into the ingot, or does it stay on the surface of the ingot? Will it buff out?
@eWasteBen3 жыл бұрын
Borax just at the end to lift out any inpurities, it forms on top like glass, it just break off
@steve39642 жыл бұрын
@@eWasteBen yes that's what will happen in the crucible, but are you skimming the top to pick up the dross?
@LoneDeathWolf8 жыл бұрын
With those temperatures that thing will be hot for another 8~12 hours. I'm curious as to why you think it's best to let it cool between pours, if anything it will degrade the crucible even faster. The crucible is a consumable, it will only last so long. Smelt and pour to your hearts content before the crucible breaks. Keep the bar form on those cinderblocks, they can take the heat. The grime on your table probably cannot, and might even ignite if there is oil or something combustable around. Could you link me where you got the furnace? I'm interested because my propane burner cannot reach temperatures high enough to smelt copper. Take some of my comments with a grain of salt, as I'm still a beginner at this aswell. Anyway I've rambled on long enough, thank you for the great video and keep up the good work.
@eWasteBen8 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you advice, main issue with continuous melting is the heating element on these types of furnaces, they can burn out when heated for too long I was told. www.china-jiuchen.com/main.asp?pid=41&id=5
@LoneDeathWolf8 жыл бұрын
I didn't think about the heating elements, I was certain you meant that the crucibles would burn out. Excuse my ignorance. Thank you for the link.
@shalala45718 жыл бұрын
Where can i get a hold of one of those furnaces?
@Mr316red8 жыл бұрын
e-bay they not cheap £300 plus
@shalala45718 жыл бұрын
Oh damn, nevermind then xD
@fourteencrows12448 жыл бұрын
build your own.
@themyceliumnetwork8 жыл бұрын
great channel ben !! do you have any videos with your methods of refining gold ? or do you sell all your sorted parts and pieces....
@eWasteBen8 жыл бұрын
I sort and save gold recovery stuff until I have enough to refine one day
@themyceliumnetwork8 жыл бұрын
going big, that's good. saves on costs & waste liquids. looking forward to seeing the shiny totals one day
@brendone1718 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with your furnace and a nice bit of copper, did you say that a lot of the fine stuff that came out of your crucible was the graphite from it intriguing hey anyway very nice job from your first attempt I'm not buying a furnace but going to try and make one but hey you done well keep doing and you'll become a master at it
@eWasteBen8 жыл бұрын
Think it was partial graphite and carbon, from what i've been told, the more air contamination the more carbon produced, so I need to keep the lid closed when cooling down.
@brendone1718 жыл бұрын
ok I'm with ya, Geez that will take a while as it was still pretty hot even after what was it 15 minutes as you said one a day
@marcusmckenzie95288 жыл бұрын
Ben just a quick question if I may, for you or anybody else who might know, if i smelt tinned copper down into ingots, will the tin taint the copper ingots? and if so is there anything i could do to separate the tin from the copper?
@eWasteBen8 жыл бұрын
it might depend on how much tin, bronze is 88% copper, 12% tin but most likely tinned copper is much lower. so it might just mix in and not be noticed, I will try it one day with tinned copper wire and see what happens
@mauriliozamora66275 жыл бұрын
That's a nice looking bar Ben !
@leandrozacovichi55378 жыл бұрын
great video, it was fun
@Veso2668 жыл бұрын
how much was the furnace and crusable and where did you get them?
@cameraman12345678908 жыл бұрын
how much could you even get selling one of those bars after melting the wire? Is there a big increase in value towards melting things to recycle them into ingots then selling them?
@Blackridge.4 жыл бұрын
Americans: Copper Uk: Coppeu Aussies: CoPa !
@nuttychickenman4 жыл бұрын
I’m just the uk and we don’t say it like that wtf? When do Americans ever say anything the right way 😂
@CubicCreator1363 жыл бұрын
its actually Americans: Ceeaapper Canadians: Copper
@Heneling Жыл бұрын
@@nuttychickenman aloominum 😂
@mikewest90338 жыл бұрын
you should try mixing gold an silver or something different that will be cool
@VicsYard8 жыл бұрын
That's really cool.
@jonashjelle5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for filming this, Nice hobby :)
@robertveronda42258 жыл бұрын
great video! next time weigh the copper wire first and then after the poor, would be interested in the difference [ impurities] that is actually in the wire.
@dr.s.o.k.72598 жыл бұрын
Just curious... I am interested in melting copper, you show and state that your melting at 1160 Celsius, however the link to the Small Melting Furnace only goes to 1150.
@eWasteBen8 жыл бұрын
you can re-set the furnace, mine is set to 1165 max