Making a LEGO Train Go Vertical!

[@marksapollo]

I never thought that fan would actually work! Colour me surprised, great job.

[@BuilditwithBricks]

Yes I’m surprised it permitted such a high angle myself! Thanks!

[@joshuahing-rowell7469]

Real

[@A_Random_Goose]

I pretty much said the exact same thing

[@neon_05]

@@BuilditwithBricks bit of a late response but it's probably bc you are not pulling anything with your locomotive. with more weight and friction on other carriages, you would have to add a rack or switch to a funicuar

[@barbonson_richards]

There was nothing stopping it from tipping backwards. Only a small force would suffice which the fan provided

[@oPlazmaMC]

90 degrees: Its an elevator with a bunch of useless parts stuck to it

[@BuilditwithBricks]

Thanks for the comment! A cable railway utilises a permanently attached cable to move trains and engines up a steep gradient. A funicular is also a type of cable railway but utilises two counterbalanced carriages! (This is similar to that but not quite!)

[@oPlazmaMC]

@@BuilditwithBricks at a 90 degree slope you dont need a rail anymore because gravity will hold your elevator in place anyways

[@maxjohnson403]

Yeah a rack and pinion isn't really a train at that point.

[@RaineyPeng]

@@oPlazmaMCexcept isn’t gravity literally not holding it in place because the railway is now perpendicular to gravity?

[@oPlazmaMC]

@@RaineyPeng gravity still holds it in its place because its the lowest point it can go on a cable

[@dallinhunter7385]

bro reinvented the elevator

[@akaHarvesteR]

Now this means there is a threshold angle at which elevator becomes train. We'll need another video to pin that down.

[@hugobartha6824]

but worse

[@jossdeiboss]

@@akaHarvesteR I know this is intended to be a joke but, there was an accident with a funicular (Kaprun disaster) in which a fan not designed for railway operation started burning. This led to many fatalities as people were trapped in a tunnel with fire. You know how the managers/engineers were able to escape punishment? Declaring that the system is not a train but an inclined elevator.

[@akaHarvesteR]

@@jossdeiboss wow, that turned dark quickly 😬 I think I heard of the disaster, but didn't know about that bit afterwards, that's horrible

[@jossdeiboss]

​@@akaHarvesteR Yeah, sorry for taking a dark turn. I couldn't resist LOL

[@paulosborne6517]

The World needs more trains with giant lethal propellers on top!!! PS - I'd call 90 degrees a fail, unless you can somehow determine that the loco is providing more climbing force than the winch.

[@BuilditwithBricks]

Yeah I’m not sure what health and safety would say about the propellor! The cable railway (similar to a funicular) is a permanently attached cable / train combo used for steep gradients typically railways in mountainous regions. Thanks for the comment!

[@paulosborne6517]

@@BuilditwithBricks Yup, I've been on plenty of cable railways, funiculars, water lifts... My point is that traction and wheel drive was the point of the experiment. In theory you could have the railway over hanging and as long as magnets held the loco con the track, the winch would pull it up... but that isn't really the loco doing tractive drive work, is it? The same could be true of 90 degrees, unless it can be measured.

[@jakubpollak2067]

@@paulosborne6517 Maybe shed unnecessary weight and use magnet - cog combo again? Less weight, means less magnetic attraction needed Also maybe add metal plate on the whole belly of locomotive, instead of magnet, as that would make it more smooth that having magnets on locomotive too

[@LegoAutoTech]

crazy and amazing, right???

[@Eddiee757]

There was a train with a propeller on once, it was called the Schienenzeppelin

[@theisraelilocomotive70414]

Quick note, as per real locomotives, the placement of the rods would be more effective if offset 90° from each other rather than having them be 180° as per your video. Also, the rack and pinion is something real railroads use, and the wheels below the tracks is just how roller coasters tend to work. Wonderful illustration of why each is used.

[@Bards.98]

That fan was a really nice out of the box solution!

[@BuilditwithBricks]

Thanks! It took the train to a decent angle!!

[@wizarddjbaby7739]

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[@Tommygunn776]

We were all surprised by how far the 1 wheel drive went

[@BuilditwithBricks]

Me too in all honesty! Thanks for watching !

[@Floofie_boi]

I didn't think it would have done even half as good as it did

[@dannyseville2543]

I don't know what I'm more impressed with, how far it got or the ideas you had to get it there.

[@BuilditwithBricks]

Thanks for the support!

[@larkshadow5317]

Congratulations on creating the most complicated elevator.

[@LEGOExploration]

😁

[@stuchly1]

My main takeaway from this video, how surprisingly steep fifteen degrees is.

[@LegoAutoTech]

8:55, I can't trust in my eye, it's work at 90 degree, OMG

[@Ljfarmer28-ie1fr]

Now make it 100 degrees

[@LegoAutoTech]

@@Ljfarmer28-ie1fr hit me 1 sub, i gotta try to do it at 100 degree, tks for your challenge so much

[@Rdoodler17]

This some Bad Piggies type shenanigans and I love it

[@arghjayem]

Instead of adding more weight initially you should have been moving the battery box lower and further forward. IMHO. 🤷

[@BuilditwithBricks]

Thanks for the comment! Yep there are lots of ways to move the centre of gravity! I suppose that’s what makes each designer different!

[@dragonmahle42]

4:04 This makes me want to make my own railway that goes on steep hills

[@MotyA_Tuber]

3:10 That fall😂

[@debrasmith9069]

Wheels at the start: carrying. Wheel by 70 degrees: “yeah we’re just here for moral support😂”

[@Arnav_Tyagi11]

8:27 The useless Elevator 😂

[@jaysdood]

Yeah, I came here to say the same thing. He invented the elevator 😂. Great video though.

[@Eljeirobloxgames]

FR🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️‼️

[@ShrimplyAquascaping]

Thanks so much for adding those piston rods ( I think they are called that) it makes things looks so much cooler

[@Lexi_is_good]

Side rods will make it way easier

[@BennoRob95]

I only wish that you had given the magnets another go at the end as that would have been as cool as the Treasure Island fan assisted train that you had there. Great vid’!

[@darthgbc363]

Great idea with the fan.

[@BuilditwithBricks]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@ElieGouverneur]

Next video: can a Lego train go upside down?

[@LEGOExploration]

*"Your videos always bring great value! I'm looking forward to seeing more content from you in the future."*

[@heavenlyplace1]

It's so cool

[@DangerAngelous]

The pain that this poor engine is trying to do all of this without coupling rods

[@CmmdrKitty]

Regardless of how the trains are made to climb. Awesome video m8

[@BuilditwithBricks]

Thanks for the support! Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@ttmax8969]

Side rods. That’s all you need.

[@laszloperneky8417]

With the last solution, you may have been able to go beyond 90 degrees :) Next time a train loop de loop :D

[@BuilditwithBricks]

Funny you should say that…. Check out my LEGO Rollercoaster loop the loop video! There you will find an answer to your question…

[@laszloperneky8417]

@@BuilditwithBricks Indeed. Nice :)

[@oPlazmaMC]

His process of thought: If I take an elevator, add a bunch of useless bits to it and call it a train, some ppl might even believe it

[@StrangeGameA_]

i kept screaming: USE FWD!!!

[@minor_2nd]

100%, would've made such a difference

[@BuilditwithBricks]

Hi thanks for the comments! I tested front wheel drive on the early models - it worked until the gradient increased, then the slightest lifting of the front wheel meant it had no traction (less compared to the rear wheel drive) and by adding weight forward of that front wheel to get it to stay in the ground effectively made it RWD! Thanks for watching!

[@Joseph-y6x8l]

You should make a video seeing how fast you can make a Lego train go

[@its_captain_aardvark]

That fan actually impressed me.

[@nigelgresley87546]

4:30 for those of you who don’t know, this is how mountain engines work! 8:26 this is also how funicular railways work!

[@weldeddaydreams]

I was amazed that the fan worked as well as it did, and impressed that the magnets got it to 80 degrees. But the winch makes it not a train, IMHO.

[@MincecraftSoundeffects-ii4db]

cool vids i subscribed

[@TimmyGC]

Hold on, that's a rollercoaster, not a train. That's like saying that the Orlando Harry Potter ride is a train just because it is shaped like one.

[@AlienXtream1]

just as a point of technicality, this isn't a "train" going vertical but a locomotive going vertical. do follow up of this with the required carriages to be a proper train :P

[@Jonah-h6]

This is cool keep up the good videos 👌

[@BuilditwithBricks]

Thanks a lot!!

[@TanksAllot]

I agree

[@jakubpollak2067]

I have only one issue Connecting rods on sides are supposed to be 90° offset between right/left side, not 180° (that would be same as of they were 0° offset) In your setup, if you turn wheels 90° both rods will align and won't provide torque, as they only push/pull forward/backwards Be separating them 90° you will make sure that at least one side can push/pull the wheels

[@guard13007]

Weird elevator at the end. :P

[@DaniilYUMA]

3:44 This moment made me laugh😂😂 It's like a steam locomotive running on a thermonuclear engine!😅😂 5:32 Steam locomotive + propeller = Locomotive helicopter😊😂 8:00 Locomotive, hold on!! 😥😥

[@BuilditwithBricks]

Ah! I’m glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks!

[@9dvds]

In bridgnorth there is a steep railway, it is winch powered

[@VipinKumar-nb7iq]

MAKE A BIGGEST 100 Degrees

[@pepethefrog7193]

Your lateral connection rod between wheels should be 90 deg phase and not 180 deg. Every real loco has 90 deg.

[@barbonson_richards]

Front wheel drive instead of adding weight to the front would have made a world of difference. The fan was also a ridiculous solution instead of simply lowering the centre of gravity

[@sickopower3444]

At what angle is it no longer a train but an elevator?🤣🧐

[@mr.357mag4]

Tbh i think he couldve gotten away from the elevator comparison if there wasnt a pulley system included but i figure the rack and pinion system couldnt get enough traction, which would also explain why nothing was ever mentioned on adding it (only the guide rails and rollers)

[@FerrybigGaming]

With 3 traction wheels,. the connection rods should be offset 90 degrees from each other, not 180. This transfers power more evently. (and mirrors a steam locomotive)

[@SandBox86]

if the track is arching the middle wheel pair is in no good contact at anytime.

[@LegoBoomSG]

cool, its on point

[@tomekkadziela9410]

I would say the winch system is kinda missing a point, you could put anything with a magnet on a winch and it would go vertically

[@FailRaceFan]

2:36 Would've loved to see the front axle to be powered instead of four wheel drive. Instead of pushing all this weight, a smaller weight could be pulled. Eventually, this wouldn't be enough anymore and 6 wheels need to be driven for higher traction. It would be a tangent to well stretch the video a bit more.

[@TabiG82]

On Pilatusbahn (over 45 degrees) you can see side cogwheels on both side. The name of technology is "Locher rack system".

[@WorasLT]

Im going to try this in Satisfactory :D

[@TheCustomFHD]

I would suggest a lighter design with all the electronics, especially the battery, infront. The driving wheel for the rack and pinion could either be in the back, or perhaps also in the front, but i think the back is gonna be better as it should prevent slipping. And instead of the winch pulling the train up, you could use it like a spanner, squezeing the train against the wall. Might work without the magnets even, and wont need powered wheels (but extra points if you leave them in and properly drive all of em directly, so in the case of no rack and pinion it could still move

[@Jintysarecool]

Now make a tender engine do it

[@WindsorYeh]

Bro called a frikin’ elevator a vertical train. War crime for the least efficient energy usage.

[@sages7783]

Once you add the gears to the track it kinda stops being a train as the drive wheels are entirely unnecessary at that point but any track would require a gear underneath it.

[@timehunter9467]

Changed from a train to a funicular lol

[@JamiePoling007]

Move the power to the front. FWD has a better chance of gripping power and doesn’t make the train flip backwards as much

[@youngxenon911]

When you put on that downforce fan, I immediately saw some Bad Piggies flashbacks

[@kendethar]

I think I can, I think I can, ...

[@MarilynMananquil]

3:17 HE FINALLY ADDED THE CRANKSHAFT

[@Ahahistoryguy]

FRrR

[@atiniahidayah9841]

What's a crankshaft?

[@MarilynMananquil]

@@atiniahidayah9841 .

[@Ahahistoryguy]

@@atiniahidayah9841 the little bar on the wheels

[@Le-coolguy]

3:20 rods useless (unless only one pare is driven like in 4:15)

[@legitscoper3259]

And there you go, you've created the Class 08 shunter

[@title4891]

4:05 0-10-0 locomotive

[@MitchOLego]

OK so .. this is about halfway to an insane idea I had , but I'm not even close to knowing enough to modify your work ... How about having a train go all the way around a vertical facing round track? Basically, the 88 stud train track circle is standing up, and i want to be able to have a small train going around that circle. I suspect part of the problem, even beyond solving it the way this video does, would be making any sort of speed consistency between chugging up the one side of the circle vs avoiding free fall down the other side ...

[@qwertyjeffMC]

Nice job on 80K subs:DDDDD

[@BuilditwithBricks]

Thanks! 😁

[@evelynkinson5524]

Instead of adding weight further forward, why not move the existing weight further forward. The battery box is the heaviest part of that so it makes more sense to make the locomotive as light as possible then position all the weight as far forwards as possible

[@Aron697]

its like The Peak Tram

[@Nevir202]

Funny how in the end, he basically just built an elevator LOL

[@dravermangaming7404]

Fwd would have made it 3:11 without weight

[@ShinGojira1]

*coughs in snowdon mountain railway*

[@zoolity]

And he creates... An elevator

[@matsv201]

So plastic have less friction than steel.. quite.a bot so

[@penclone01-n4x]

i tried using the bendable tracks to make ramps more easily but the trains keep getting stuck

[@coreygibson15]

connecting rods on the wheels should go on a 90 degree offset to the wheels on the other side, not 180

[@dragonkingofthestars]

yo have reinvented a rack railway from first principles.

[@kadebrown6162]

I think your center of gravity was way too high making it want to roll backwards. the middle wheel basically did nothing because of the curve of the track. so the front wheel kept it from fully touching the rails. in some of the early tests just running it backwards could have worked due to the heavy battery pack towards the rear making it lift up it reminds me a bit of the MT. Washington cog railway with the engines tipped forwards to be level on the grade.

[@E2_2020]

Moral of the story, just use an elevator for 90 degrees :D

[@Lgwasherfan5623]

For making more drive wheels I thought you would attach a bar instead of gear driven

[@Nillurks]

4:04 just like snowdon railway.

[@DiegoTheGreenCowcatcherBoi]

yeah, btw i know what the snowdon railway is lol

[@Bigtrainfanyt]

Yea

[@heavenlyplace1]

🎉😂

[@Just-sap]

Ye good job 2:56

[@Alex_skittles1]

I feel like as soon as we added the teeth to the track everything after that was a fail.

[@DEVIOUSDUCK5741]

he made an escalator and slowly worked to making an elevator

[@Rocks_crash]

Fast as hell boi

[@MCBE_Gamer-06]

The elevator is just a train moving vertically

[@JosephHalleAnimationsandMusic]

7:00 dont use magnets. Just have the track be flat and curve up to it. Duh.

[@TBVnBIX]

TIL: Train that runs vertical is called an elevator

[@Raze51YT]

Does the winch system actually count as the train moving uphill or a train being towed uphill?

[@Helpoca]

While the video was fun (the downforce fan was a surprise), we still have to address the elephant in the room. The 90 degrees thing was not a train, that was an elevator. I've seen your comments about the funicular, but the funicular also isn't a train, it's a funicular. A vehicle that travels on a steel rail won't automatically become a train; for example, railway maintenance vehicles are capable of lowering steel wheels and travel on railways, but are not trains, rollercoasters are not trains, rail supported crawler cranes (the likes in docks and huge shipyards) are also not trains. On the same level, a vehicle that travels on a road isn't necessarily a car, it can be a bus, a truck, a bicycle, and so on and forth. A train, by definition, is one or more cars with - and here comes the difference - a locomotive. And a locomotive is a self-propelled engine that pulls said cars. Your 90 degrees elevator uses a winch to pull itself up, and by that, isn't self-propelled anymore. Yes, the motor is technically on the traveling unit itself (like on some elevators), but it could be on the platform as well (like on other elevators), and would still work, while a train can't move without the locomotive being self-propelled. So yes, the video is still fun, but the 90 degrees example isn't technically a train anymore ;)

[@David-ys4ud]

Oh it stopped being a train LONG before 90 degrees

[@Intheeyesofkai]

U should remove the traction on the wheels that arnt motorised!

[@coconutterrence8549]

Dude, can you put those things up for sale? I mean like copies of that train and gear tracks? I don’t know what they are cold but I don’t have them.

[@kieranwallner1128]

Front wheel drive!!!!!

[@Linck192]

should have kept going beyond 90 degrees. The winch wouldn't have worked anymore

[@ImTheHeyGuy]

👋 hey 👋 😊

[@sebastianchangco5707]

I know how to solve this problem: “a banker”

[@joewilliams3817]

When does it stop being a train and become an elevator 😂😂

[@oldhorn420]

2:30 bro is screaming 💀

[@JVarley9001]

We have LIFDOFF

[@Zero_G_Coaster]

It's not a train it's an helicopter 😂😂