Making a Nasal Helmet - BorntoForge -

[@Landrew0]

I always wondered how they did that. The mig welder is a lot older than I thought.

[@velazquezarmouries]

Landrew0 in the época they just used Thor's hammer it haves a similar effects

[@koshi6505]

Probably using rivets and/or brazing, which is kind of like welding anyways. Brazing has been around since 3000 BC.

[@rumpelpumpel7687]

@@koshi6505 riveting, forge welding and in later medieval times, they were able to forge a helmet (the spherical part) from a single sheet of metal. Brazing Not so much. The technique is around for a long time but brazed seams are not very shock resistant and would probably break after a few blows. Ever heard of the "golden hats"? Amazing craftsmanship from over 3000 years ago. Super-thin goldsheets in the form of a wizzards hat... (Gandalf is real😉) They're also made from a single piece of metal ... but it's gold, not steel and there are "magical engravings" on it. Really fascinating! Here's the Wiki Link en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Hat_of_Schifferstadt

[@Uncle_Jacob]

Landrew0 yeah I wonder if that's an authentic reproduction of a mig welder tho

[@Overworkedandunderpaid]

Rumpel Pumpel that’s fascinating indeed.

[@TwentythreePER]

Your helmet look really good when it's done. I have a rudimentary coal forge in my barn that I've been trying to get to know how to use so I can one day make amazing things like this. Great work, I may have to try this if I get good enough and have the right equipment. Hopefully some day. This has been very inspiring to watch though.

[@johngorman4052]

Great work, on a tricky project too. Those curves in the helmet pieces would all have to be the same for the segments to fit together- a lot of forging and know-how involved right there. Excellent job by the Master Blacksmith, always a pleasure to see you at work, thanks.

[@marcsenteney3160]

Well done! Do you have plans to make more armor pieces? Would like to see more.

[@LeatherSlim]

thank god you actually had a coif on underneath. most people don't even know they were used.

[@therustedshank9995]

Ikr

[@TheStonehammerFiles]

After watching this and seeing the tools you used, I know I can make this. I may not have the oxy torch but I'm sure I can rig up something to work with my forge.

[@michaelslack5269]

That whole helm can be made cold no need for heat with these...

[@DaneStolthed]

This is the best Spangenhelm build I've seen on KZbin, Big thumbs up!

[@Chaos_Jorre]

I was hoping to see how they did it without welding. Do you have any idea and would you be able to do it? I'd be very interested in seeing a video showing how it was done like in the appropriate age :)

[@keithhagler502]

Much the same way. The welding is just a good way to hold it together, but if the plates match good, then you can rivet the straps and plates together as you go. I use the welder on normal pieces that are not meant to be best quality, and there is nothing wrong with that from an aesthetic viewpoint as they are only visible from the inside. Also, the rivets do not have to be peened from the inside. You can use nails and peen from the outside, or, you will need a special hammer with longer neck to reach those on the crown from the inside. This was not shown or explained in the video. As to the historical approach, the pattern he is using is not the best to go about it. Study photos of originals and draw them and get a feel for how they are constructed. Normally using 4 straps instead of 2 and the straps have their own curvature. The only way I would make the helmet in this video is by using the welder, since it is not particularly historical, so I would be hard-pressed to build it historically in the first place.

[@drason69]

I was waiting for someone to come give you a landing strike from a weapon at the end, to test it out. Lol

[@latelierdeledold4708]

The helmet looks amazing !

[@zellarcher]

Was this our Valentines gift? Because it was a good one.

[@jonathanmartin-ives8665]

What a beautiful piece!

[@PunkBloke666]

Hi! Job very well done! Is it possible to have the scaling of the hemet pieces? Or how did the scaling for the four main pieces? Thank you!

[@jimbojet8728]

Fascinating to watch that helmet being made. A great vid, thank you.

[@fabrizio8769]

Hai un attrezzatura fenomenale. Ottimo lavoro

[@tango1zero22]

Ive worked metal for 35 years. I always had an idea of doing one of these. I had the same idea. Mig weld 4 pieces together and cover it.

[@paulus281059]

Really like this vid, a work of art mate, brilliant job. And you works so quick, amazing speed, lol.

[@paradisefalls37]

Great craftsmanship! Really cool design! Thanks for sharing!

[@glennrussellapura6403]

The Spangenhelm is actually a Roman design in origin. It was used and issued to auxillaries being cheap and essy to fabricate

[@johnclarke7626]

A very practical design for those who fight in groups. I have a barbute with no provision for hearing commands or enemy movement. Might as well be a bucket.

[@dianarun99]

Excellent craftsmanship! loved the video. Keep up the good work.

[@tomasistudios2618]

I really enjoyed your time laps vids. I make swords and other things, I also have some sword making time laps vids but I put things like actual speed on there

[@michaelburiak4304]

Very interesting) already watch all of your video works. Good luck!!! Everything you do in your videos - awesome

[@daveadams7763]

What a great project, very well executed

[@rebelbiker9956]

Fantastic build ! I would have pur a chin strap of some sort by the way

[@SlySpe]

Salut ce qui me fascine au delà du travail de formage c'est que c'est toujours le bazar dans l'atelier.... je suis de formation aéronautique et je trouve ça hallucinant! Keep on mate

[@محمدحسینعلینیا-ص1ق]

Verrrrrry good That's amazing ❤❤❤❤❤

[@silentvisitor1420]

Super Arbeit gemacht ,sehr gute Anleitung, Danke für das zeigen und hochladen .:)

[@s.sradon9782]

traditionally there would have been an overlap between the four quarters of the helmet which would have been punched and riveted

[@maksmaso4741]

Hello, first of all - Nice work :) just a little hint for you. look at the human head from the top, it is not a exact circle its a bit oval. when you are making those four parts dont make it exact equilaterals triangles, but move the point a littlebit to the side. longer side facing front and back and the shorter facing side of the head. final bottom shape of the helmet will be oval. it will be much more comfortable to wear and if it will come to that, it will absorb hits much more nicely because it wil fit the shape of the head better. hope it will help :) good luck with the next ones :)

[@scotty7845]

Hey Re-Enactor here. This! We aren't stick figures and helmets made like that are last to get picked up. Thank you

[@homemademedieval3935]

I love this channel! you make the coolest stuff

[@Beowulf-sd5gh]

First of all well done! If you wanted to make it historically accurate you could have skipped the welding, but idon't know if you are interested in that.

[@bill0127]

Me before video: This looks easy enough to make! Me after video: Ehhh I might just buy one

[@Scrimjer]

So is the music supposed to cover up the shop sounds?

[@GypsyPaz]

Awesome! Althogh I cant help but be reminded of that scene from the Robin Hood movie where the Sherrif beats up the guard wearing that helmet. Lol

[@raulantonioarayabugueno9047]

Es usted un verdadero herrero vikingo Ahora me suscribo congratulaciones por subtalento

[@ducomaritiem7160]

Hi, just a question.... Why making 4 parts of a conical helmet and then welding them together.... ??? I don't get it. What can be simpler then First making the banding, Then shaping the plates , drilling holes and rivet them together... It's more historical, just as fast as what you do and more easy. Really, I've done lots of banded nasal helmets... I'm sure you can, I see a lot of talent in your toolhandeling. Or is there another reason for the 4 part welding procedure?

[@phoenixforge5944]

Duco Maritiem it was the first one i made, very much an experiment, making the banding first may be a faster option, il have to give it a go

[@stairwayunicorn4861]

not sure why you cut off the extra spangen from the front when it would have been perfect as reinforcement for the nasal

[@jimmydunn8791]

I think this channel is underrated. I put this next to DiResta and other great creators

[@ChristianThePagan]

Nice helmet, but ... I have never seen a surviving helmet with those ‘V’ section spangen but I suppose there could have been helmets made like that. Much worse for the historicity are the round dome rivets, those are a re-enactorism. Medieval helmet rivets were usually flat or only very gently domed so as not to catch blades. You want blades to glance off, not catch on rivets so funnily enough you’d be better off for historical accuracy using carpenter’s nails than modern round topped rivets. I tend to file those things flat when I buy one of these re-enactor helmets and go over the files down river heads with a preening hammer to make them look hand made.

[@jefftoler9302]

hey man,screw that block of dam wood down! LOL i loved it!

[@jacobdrescher1756]

looks awesome!

[@metaldetectingpa7950]

I want to see this, made of copper, bronze, and brass!

[@matnaylor8939]

Not sure about the mig welding ?? But looks nice enough .

[@paulorchard7960]

Had an interest in medieval armor now for a year or so, no idea why, past life maybe!

[@zarrus2172]

Do you test fit it to make sure it fits you or do you already know?

[@bonniemcdaniel8]

I HAVE A HELMET THAT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THIS ONE. TO A TEA. IT WAS LINED IN VELVET AND COTTON WITH THE COTTON SEED STILL IN THE BATTING. NOT SURE WHAT THE ESTIMATED AGE WOULD BE.

[@Tookrati]

Well done!

[@boredtodeathify]

looks like it could use a chinstrap

[@GEEK-fy1dz]

that mean. after all that, and realising the rivets are already in XD

[@velazquezarmouries]

steampoweredman or some rivets too

[@stevenwinnen9104]

Beautiful job.

[@ImaginationHobbies]

Awesome job!

[@donvaldezmarco]

Where can I find one of this dudes in Minnesota?

[@skeletortranham1239]

If hes willing to make another, i would honestly buy one

[@Nurbek-Ali]

Әдемі шыққан!!! Жарайсың!!!

[@bradbarber799]

Ah yes, the ancient technique of welding with a propane torch. All jokes aside its a neat helm

[@thegermaniccoenus2525]

It does tell me you can make a Pilos or Konos helmet with that base steel cap.

[@wooddecay]

AMAZING i need to try make one of these.

[@TheArendt1]

That fast hammering remembers me of Benny Hill, hitting the bald guy on is head :)

[@Slysivermint]

Wished you gave instructions to build this

[@SquirrelsForAll]

Best 15 minutes ever!

[@anthonyhargis6855]

Very nice! Great work! A piece of chain hanging off the back to protect the neck would have been nice though. Perhaps next time?

[@kukri8848]

someone please help, i really would love to make a spangenhelm but i have no idea how to make the measurements and templates for everything. when j make the bands its either too small or not shaped quite right, is it just trial and error?

[@mangiamohealthy3188]

fantastic- how can i buy one?

[@0kaplah0]

Wow this guy works super fast

[@sterlingknight5918]

Nice bead!

[@bryanthoblit2248]

I see your channel is growing

[@heathen-greaser]

Awesome video

[@spongthe1st]

You're UK based? Can I ask where you source your rivets? I tried to get into armouring many years ago but couldn't find a rivet supplier

[@michaelslack5269]

R J Leahy Co. out of San Francisco (I believe they are a dot com) every rivet you can think of sold by the pound...your welcome (lol) happy shopping!

[@phoenixforge5944]

sapphire rivet company or make them if I need a special size

[@stairwayunicorn4861]

in the states you could try any Tractor Supply store, either (Herschel) R36-0462D or (CountyLine) 491-R10625

[@bruceosborne1892]

Nice works!

[@toddmclain13]

Any dimension on pannels? Looks like a cool project to try

[@phoenixforge5944]

Bit of trial and error, I used paper to make a template for it everyone's heads a different shape

[@oscardacrus]

Excelente trabajo

[@koningbolo4700]

See you in Hastings... :-)

[@rudbisanchezfernandez8826]

FELICITACIONES MAESTRO-

[@Moony16_]

I do not know anything about welding. What is the name of the technique you used?

[@phoenixforge5944]

Mig Welding

[@attila-5491]

Good job...and now you need a king

[@hermitbamboo1606]

this just makes me curious about how are these made in the medieval times? also it might be cool to use some medival style bgm.

[@owenbagwell8997]

hermit bamboo with rivets I think, the welding he used to strengthen it I think

[@sirjosefofhessen4527]

How can an sugar loaf helmet be rated when forged of high carbon steel 14 gauge

[@zw.6901]

Классный шлем брат!

[@elchavintv2283]

Excelente !!!, From Argentina !!!

[@OutlawEdge]

SUBBED!!! Awesome stuff👍

[@jimkaletaBuffalo]

Very cool project

[@cernismirtkamennoeserdce9221]

Can you make a Barbrute (Bobba Fett style) helmet?

[@gabrielsanchez6160]

Impresionante

[@deutzd301]

sieht sehr gut aus.

[@manuelkong10]

Well I love your helmet

[@manuelkong10]

I'd love to buy that

[@InsolentHalo]

How did you figure the pattern for the 4 pieces that make up the dome? Thats the part I am stuck on. Did you have a pattern?

[@tonyberg6861]

ChemicalLife I'm going to give it a try and was struggeling with this too, but if you make the a cardboard shape of the helmet and fit it to your head you can then draw out the patterns alot easier, I have yet to test if it actually work yet but I have a good feeling about it, just one strip around the head, one for height of your head and then the actual shape of the helmet on top of that. Hope it works and I hope it helps!

[@phoenixforge5944]

I borrowed one from a friend that was a good fit and made a paper template from that and added a little extra.

[@Oldskoolbloke]

The pattern development for this type of shape is called "Triangulation" in particular you use a "Bull Nose" development (the same as is used for making a sink) it is tricky and unless you are making various sizes etc - it is easier to shape and then trim a template piece.

[@TerravoreThrashBulgaria]

very good blast beats in the whole video ..

[@bernardoxoke]

Just great

[@michael7324]

Forging. The one skill I so with I had. Is this an expensive hobby?

[@Robert-qm7yi]

depends on how much you want to spend, if you're clever you can forge with a hole in the ground, hair dryer and tools you have around the house; if you don't mind spending money you can sink thousands into it

[@michaelslack5269]

Not really...I mean any hobby involves some investment. Check out the SCA they have some really nice 'work arounds' that save $$$ and (with practice) you can get the same results shown here. For these style helms there really is no need to weld. To cut metal from sheet...find a beverly shear, Aka throatless shear Harbor freight has them (faster and silent...no noise) as opposed to a band or power saw. An angle grinder is a very handy and flexible tool! Of course a hand drill...then again if ya want to go faster and (again) silent find a whitney punch. Harbor freight has affordable anvils, or find a section of railroad track or both. If yer gonna do this hobby different types of hammers are needed as they are largely task specific, files are a huge help along with scrap iron for shaping yer own forming stakes. I could go on but I hope you get the idea. No need to break the bank bud! One last thing (or two) NOISE! This is a very noisy hobby so think about 1...yer ears and 2...yer neighbors. Hope all this helps. If ya got any questions hit me up...good luck!

[@smytheindustries2192]

Some people build a forge from an old brake drum, and steel plumbing pipe. They can burn charcoal and get air from a bellows. If you're not trying for period methods, you can swap the bellows for a $10 hair dryer. Some people love charcoal and various coals, and will use just that and air. You'd also need a hammer, and something resembling an anvil. You should be able to do it for under $50. Search Google for "simple forge". You'll see various ways to accomplish the same job. It's a hobby that you can keep adding to, and making bigger, better, setups. On my channel, there is a venturi burner, which lets you use propane and air, instead of charcoal. Mine was for a foundry, but they're the same burners. From there, you'll get into insulated forging space, like a very hot oven for heating metal. Making stuff is fun. Making cool stuff, that much better.

[@bobhatesrainbows]

My first charcoal forge made with a brake drum, steel pipe and a hair dryer cost me around $50 CAD. My anvil was sitting around my friends mothers yard and was free. Any hammer around 3-5lbs will do to start (you'll end up with a lot of hammers). The first few projects you do will be making the rest of the tools you need such as hardy tools and tongs (these are great to learn on). It's a great hobby and well worth the time spent.

[@afinoxi]

Just dig a hole in the ground , add a pipe to the hole , lead it away from the hole , add a hair dryer. After you started the fire , add a lot of charcoal (that's what gives the heat) , start the hair dryer and put your metal in the fire. After some time , take it and forge. It's easy , just needs a little skill. You don't even need to buy the metal. Go to a junkyard and pick up yourself some basic junk steel. Railroad spikes and old saws are very good choices for example.

[@woodscrew5612]

Need to protect the nose! Nice stuff

[@paoloblasig45]

fantastic

[@vestcoasttrashgnome8565]

Genius, Pure genius

[@eduardocometta8902]

Genio total!!!!

[@margaritamalinina7734]

What is the steel thickness?

[@ionelolaru9582]

Grosimea tablei ?

[@KenManTheOneAndOnly]

Does anyone know how to make the "bowls" to make the bends?

[@ugotit33x]

EXCELLENT

[@mathisrogge8727]

Nice vid

[@The_Nailsmith]

Kinda wished there was a template

[@kanalgeneral2609]

can you make a templet for the four part that go around the head becuse i am thinking about making one but tese four parts are tricky.

[@phoenixforge5944]

kanalgeneral the 4 panels are the same size on this one. Give yourself plenty of excess and trim them down at the end. I think the pattern was roughly 2:1 hxw

[@kanalgeneral2609]

thanks man