Making, Arranging, and Fusing Gold Granules

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Rio Grande

Rio Grande

6 жыл бұрын

Join Jeannette Caines of Jewelry Arts Inc. as she explains the easiest and fastest methods to making, arranging and fusing gold granules. Learn to create uniform granules in a variety of sizes and how to keep them in place while fusing, as well as the proper tools and techniques to replicate this process.
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@krautgirl65
@krautgirl65 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad to have found this tutorial video from you!...i watched it, (twice), and i was making granules like a pro!...thanks so much for sharing this information as it was completely clear and concise...and i absolutely adore Jeannette as an instructor!...she is top notch as far as i am concerned...thank you so much!
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, glad it helped! We agree, Jeanette is great!
@theresa42213
@theresa42213 5 жыл бұрын
''And then you will be sad'' xD First time l've ever watched a goldsmith video! Gold is lovely indeed!
@dianaalexander3506
@dianaalexander3506 Жыл бұрын
Great video and Jeannette is an awesome instructor! I took a course many years ago with Jean Stark, and this gave me some new tips which I believe will make it all even easier! Thanks so much!!
@heartsnroses78
@heartsnroses78 9 ай бұрын
Wow, this is awesome! Thank you for having her show us how to easily do this without taking a $1,000 or more course with some teachers!!!! I love it!!!
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 8 ай бұрын
We are so happy to hear you found this video helpful ☺
@123kkambiz
@123kkambiz 6 жыл бұрын
That was fantastic tutorial. Thanks for your time and editing and uploading the video.
@davidasselin3955
@davidasselin3955 9 ай бұрын
Jeannette is the top granulation expert. Great video, thanks
@jadenephrite
@jadenephrite 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video. Regarding 7:40, the granulation fusing liquid can be made by adding a copper salt such as copper sulfate or copper carbonate or copper acetate or copper chloride into a glue solution such as gum tragacanth or a commercially available product known as "Klyr-Fire". The fusing liquid is used to initially adhere granulation balls or small metal pieces to a metal backing substrate surface. Then from the applied heat of a torch flame, the metal pieces become fused to the substrate. No added solder is required.
@warmwomyn
@warmwomyn 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH! Informative, exactly what i wanted to learn, easy to understand and oh so satisfying! Very grateful and appreciative! 💕💖💕
@carianin5293
@carianin5293 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is a great video. Very useful info.
@ehsankhalili6761
@ehsankhalili6761 2 жыл бұрын
thank you from Iran, useful video and I enjoyed watching it.
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! We appreciate the support!
@101mosioatunya
@101mosioatunya 3 жыл бұрын
A top video! Thanks very much. I shall watch it again and have saved it.
@grottoserpentina9342
@grottoserpentina9342 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful demonstration. You have a very lovely voice.
@karie9890
@karie9890 Жыл бұрын
There isn't much o this subject on YT. So very glad you shared how this is done!! Thank you! ❤❤🙏🏻🙏🏻
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Thank you for the comment!
@karie9890
@karie9890 Жыл бұрын
@@RioGrande1944 Hi again! Where did Jeanette get her plastic tea strainer? 🤔😊
@user-tx3op9qv1r
@user-tx3op9qv1r 5 ай бұрын
The best! Thank you!
@BornAgainFarmGirl
@BornAgainFarmGirl 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you , so helpful !
@Missgpie
@Missgpie 6 жыл бұрын
This was very good. I would like to see this using a back plate of silver and fusing the gold granules onto it.
@rosarioelenna
@rosarioelenna 3 жыл бұрын
Omgg it help me a lot!!!! Thank you so much for sharing and for youre nice explanation ❣❣❣
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 3 жыл бұрын
Rosario Palma Donoso, thank you so much for watching!
@goldsmith_richardwu9891
@goldsmith_richardwu9891 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thank you
@indira3
@indira3 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant (if I can say 😁) 💜🙏💜
@dsuleyma
@dsuleyma 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. thanks
@melanatedmoms5161
@melanatedmoms5161 3 жыл бұрын
So satisfying and I don't even make jewelry, but this makes me want to.
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@rolandryder5811 2 жыл бұрын
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@remybrandon6522 2 жыл бұрын
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@rolandryder5811
@rolandryder5811 2 жыл бұрын
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@rolandryder5811
@rolandryder5811 2 жыл бұрын
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@remybrandon6522
@remybrandon6522 2 жыл бұрын
@Roland Ryder Glad I could help =)
@MeeMaw1971
@MeeMaw1971 4 ай бұрын
This is magical. ❤
@goose6917
@goose6917 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@DavidFriedman1
@DavidFriedman1 2 жыл бұрын
Cellini says that you stop heating it when the skin of the gold moves. I'm working with fine silver and not nearly as accomplished as the lady here, using Cellini's formula, which includes verdigris, copper oxide, along with borax as a flux, rather than the modern technique of copper plating. The video was still very informative.
@KayGasnerKGDESIGNS
@KayGasnerKGDESIGNS Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!! Thank you for sharing ;-)
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 Жыл бұрын
You are most welcome! We are glad you liked it.
@ceeceeceecee7753
@ceeceeceecee7753 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😂😅😆for sharing. Oh God, what would I do without you?😌🥰😁😚😅😅😅😂🤣🤣😆😆👏👏👏🤗🤗🤗⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️💎💎💎💎💎 I love your videos . Detailed and to the point.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️💎💎💎💎💎😌🥰👏👏👏🤗🤗🤗
@sillystephys7123
@sillystephys7123 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know I needed to watch this
@jahoeffner
@jahoeffner 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the wonderful tutorial. I'm afraid to experiment with gold yet, but I am working on fusing fine silver granules to sterling, using saliva as the holding agent. So far so good, except it is do easy to overheat. I have not been copper plating the granules, if I did would that give a tiny bit more time before everything melted.
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 5 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome-we're glad it was helpful. Keep on practicing!
@goolyweis
@goolyweis Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video- very informative!! I would like to know if it's going to work also with acid citrique. This is what I use to pickle my work.
@dominikraphaelpascallinden4905
@dominikraphaelpascallinden4905 4 жыл бұрын
Never better said: it will make u very sad. True, i can sing a song of that. Thanks for sharing.
@g.m.5412
@g.m.5412 5 жыл бұрын
I am loving all these videos with Jeanette! My balls stick to my soldering surface (with and without flux) ....what's Jeanette's trick to not having this happen? Im using brass and copper currently...
@MONAHOLABOLA
@MONAHOLABOLA 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rio Grande for having Jeanette . I dream on taking a course in her studio!! Question: if it´s silver, should I also do copper plating on the granules?
@JewelryArts
@JewelryArts 6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to meet you, then! No. With silver the copper plating is unnecessary.
@josefeidler
@josefeidler 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeanette. Can I use Clear Fire (used in enameling) as a glue? Nice video, Thanks.
@victortsykunov
@victortsykunov 5 жыл бұрын
Bur helps! For any granules on any surface. Flux hold as well no dirty glue please
@sandygavard1525
@sandygavard1525 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please tell me where you got the plastic strainer? I've been looking online but haven't seen that one. Thank you for the wonderful video.
@paris635
@paris635 4 жыл бұрын
hello!What's the liquid for cooper plate ?and what is the glue you use?
@rogerdesousa1451
@rogerdesousa1451 5 жыл бұрын
Recently subscribed, amazing informative videos. Question, what are the gasses used, oxy/propane? Also, do you have a video on different torches and gas combinations? Thank you
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Roger, Welcome to the channel! So glad that you're finding the videos helpful. We have a play list on torches and soldering. She is using oxgen and propane.
@cristinaradu5480
@cristinaradu5480 5 жыл бұрын
Hello - I am seeking info on the brand/source of the plastic strainer you are using. I am unable to find one that is entirely plastic, so I end up chasing little balls in my pickle pot...not very efficient! And the fact that yours snaps close - that's quite amazing! Thanks!
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Cristina, We recommend taking a look at the "Tops Perma Brew Tea Bag Infuser" - it appears to be the same as the one Jeanette is using in this video. Hope this helps!
@barbaradeneke2909
@barbaradeneke2909 5 жыл бұрын
This is really great, full of detailed on point information. I have a question based on the comments below. If you make fine silver granules and want to fuze them onto a silver sheet, would it be good to use argentium as the back plate and fine silver for the granules or do you really need to avoid mixing the alloys?? TIA
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Barbara - Mixing alloys isn’t a problem but it does depend on which alloys you’re using. Fusing fine silver to argentium or fine silver to fine silver is perfectly fine; however, if you’re going to fuse fine silver or argentium to sterling, the sterling would need to be depleted first before fusing. We hope this is helpful!
@huskyfluffy
@huskyfluffy 6 жыл бұрын
Oh I wish we could have seen the finished piece.
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 6 жыл бұрын
Hi there! In this instance, the result of the tutorial wasn't a finished piece. However, Jeanette's work is beautiful, and she shares her talents with students. You can learn more and see some of the work here: jewelryarts.com/ - We hope you enjoy it; thanks for watching.
@chrisweston3072
@chrisweston3072 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering who makes the shear she used to cut gold sheet. It looks like a really good one....
@eviecld
@eviecld 4 жыл бұрын
Fumasi shears. Rio Grande sells them.
@goolyweis
@goolyweis Жыл бұрын
The water that you add to the granules once you placed them on the base metal, is distilled water? I read on Oppi Untracts book that it has to be distilled water. Thank you.
@hemidart7
@hemidart7 5 жыл бұрын
what is the black block that you are working on ? is it graphite ? looks coarse
@sharonroncone5237
@sharonroncone5237 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, covers so many questions no one else addresses and adds lots of helpful hints. Questions: 1) Do I understand correctly from comments below that sterling does not work for making smooth granules? (good to know) 2) if you can do smooth sterling granules and you are doing sterling granules on a sterling back plate, do you depletion guild the backplate? 3) What temp would you have your kiln at for all sterling granulation? What temp for all fine silver? 4) If you did fine silver granules on sterling, (or vice versa) I assume you don't need to copper plate????
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Sharon, Thanks for your questions. We talked to our Jewelry Tech Team; here's what they said: 1) Sterling is not ideal and will not work for granulation. The results are generally very poor. 2) Making smooth granules out of sterling is very hard to do. It can be done, but isn't recommended. We suggest fine silver granules. When using a sterling back plate, yes, it is necessary to deplete the copper out of the surface of the sheet. 3) Bring the temp of the material to the minimum liquidous point of the metal being granulated. Since most granulation is done with a torch and watched very carefully throughout the process, we cannot recommend a kiln temp. 4) To help form a eutectic alloy some form of copper on the granules is necessary. There are many ways to do this. Here is more info on granulation you might enjoy www.ganoksin.com/article/goldsmithing-granulation-technique/ There is a reason sterling silver granulation pieces very often. Most we do see have been cast or in some cases coined, or are actually Argentium which is much easier to granulate. Granulation is a fickle process in sterling. We hope this information is helpful!
@JacquelineA-tt9rw
@JacquelineA-tt9rw Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on Blue Fuse?
@loralora7597
@loralora7597 4 жыл бұрын
I did not understand what gold wire you used for this? What gauge? Thanks
@tengribows5533
@tengribows5533 Жыл бұрын
Hi, best video about granulation on YT. My question is about copper plating. What kind of pickle do you use for copper plating? I clean metal with Sulfuric acid or citric acid, is it possible to use it also? Is also possible use blue vitriol?
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 Жыл бұрын
Yes, used pickle will look greenish because it has copper dissolved in it. That should work fine.
@questionanswer4
@questionanswer4 6 жыл бұрын
Is Titebond or Old Brown Glue the right kind of hide glue to use? I see those on Amazon but haven’t looked at a hardware store yet.
@JewelryArts
@JewelryArts 6 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter, just that it is hide glue. :)
@janicechevaillier3744
@janicechevaillier3744 2 жыл бұрын
Is there an alternative method if you don't have a kiln to fuse the granules?
@aleksdetochin4045
@aleksdetochin4045 8 ай бұрын
hello! and how to buy such an oven?
@dulcesouza5837
@dulcesouza5837 3 жыл бұрын
O dinheiro vai para o bolso de quem !
@fatimaferreira8251
@fatimaferreira8251 2 жыл бұрын
I thank you very much for such helpful and clear instructional video. I love it and I have seen it three times now. I think I will experiment to use gold with this beautiful technique. My question is... if will it be possible to avoid the kiln use to heat and burn the glue. Is it possible to do the same just using only the torch ? can you give me any advice or tip for that ? I have a different enameling kiln, but I can't imagine using my torch inside it... I really would appreciate your advice. And a big thank you from Portugal.
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 2 жыл бұрын
You can do granulation only with a torch and not use one of the small kilns. The kiln helps to heat a little more evenly but you should be able to heat evenly with just a torch. This is done all the time and should not be an issue.
@fatimaferreira8251
@fatimaferreira8251 2 жыл бұрын
@@RioGrande1944 Thank you so much !
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 2 жыл бұрын
@@fatimaferreira8251 You are welcome!
@TonyaDavidson
@TonyaDavidson 5 жыл бұрын
If you are copper plating your granules anyway why are you pickling them before plating them (with the gold)? I understand doing this process with sterling balls. What is your preferred liquid flux that you are adding to the glue/water mixture for curved surfaces?
@JewelryArts
@JewelryArts 5 жыл бұрын
Copper is bit different than copper oxide, which is what is getting pickled off. I haven't noticed any difference in using any of the common liquid fluxes.
@BlueLineofthesky
@BlueLineofthesky 6 жыл бұрын
Love this video. I do have a question. When I make sterling silver granules I do it in the same way but those little balls start to wrinkle and get very ugly with dimples and holes after they start to cool. Why is that? Why the surface of the metal is not nice as yours? I am using a propane torch (EZ Torch) and a charcoal block like yours. Thank you.
@BlueLineofthesky
@BlueLineofthesky 6 жыл бұрын
Eunice Rappaport thank you. I have fine silver. I will try .
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 6 жыл бұрын
Hello There! Thanks for your question. We asked our Jewelry Tech Team about this, and they had some great insight to share. "Timing is crucial when heating granules. If heated too long they will have a pitted or wrinkled effect. Because the metal is so small it heats up very fast making it easy to overheat. We recommend bringing the torch back a bit in order to heat them more slowly. The second they ball up, remove the torch. We hope this is helpful!"
@BlueLineofthesky
@BlueLineofthesky 6 жыл бұрын
I love you people. :) Thank you so much Jeanette for your effort to help me out. From Rio I bought my first tools and materials. Your videos and Mark Nelson...my first teachers :)
@JewelryArts
@JewelryArts 6 жыл бұрын
I know you have received a few answers but here goes: Sterling granules can't be fused and they will never look as smooth as 22k or fine silver. A quick heating helps but it is the nature of the copper in the alloy that makes it react that way. Fine silver, Argentium or 22k is the metal to choose for granules.
@BlueLineofthesky
@BlueLineofthesky 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your reply. I really appreciate this. I will try Argentium and fine silver. I was always interested on how Balinese manage to work with so many granules but because of the classic sterling silver I have I never managed to make nice balls. Each time I heat the ball looks nice but when I let it cool is like it starts to collapse in itself. Looks very ugly, like Moon surface. I will change the material to Argentium. Thank you!
@PAPATONMOY
@PAPATONMOY 2 жыл бұрын
What glue did you use? Name please. I have a factory to make 21 karat jewellery.
@robhowe8353
@robhowe8353 5 жыл бұрын
What about the ionized iron and salt glue some guys make and use? Does anyone use it, or make it here?
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob, Thanks for asking. There are many ways to do granulation. While Rio doesn't currently carry the glue mixture you mention, we do recommend the method Jeanette shares in this video. Our Jewelry Tech Team has offered that in their experience, the glue mixes can dry out and are a little more difficult to use than the technique shared here. Thanks again for watching!
@karlopopovic810
@karlopopovic810 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful tutorial! I just have one kinda off topic question. What would it take (or would it actually be possible) to fuze bronze granules on a bronze plate? Or even pure copper just for a challenge? How difficult would it be to avoid all of the oxydation issues?
@danilonunez8837
@danilonunez8837 6 жыл бұрын
Quiero a prender
@arelgr9407
@arelgr9407 3 жыл бұрын
at 4:10 and 6:45 minutes, before spheronization why not use borax flux overlay ?
@luthertju
@luthertju 4 жыл бұрын
hello, i have hide glue with me but the glue wont dissolve with the water, any tips?
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Luther - It’s not going to be completely dissolve in the water - it will only be suspended in the water. The water acts as a carrier for the glue. Hope this answers your question!
@TheSadieray
@TheSadieray 4 жыл бұрын
What gauge is the wire you are using?
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the question, Sadie! There is not a set size to use-if you are using thicker wire, it makes larger granules, whereas thinner wire makes smaller granules. For these, she is most likely using around a 26 gauge. It might be useful to experiment with different gauges to get just the right size for your project though. Hope this helps!
@juliepallone9976
@juliepallone9976 2 жыл бұрын
I’m using butane gas and 9ct rolled gold but it won’t roll up into balls, just stays flat .. what am I doing wrong ?
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Julie, for granulation you'll need to use a higher karat of gold. Jeanette is using 22 karat.
@michelemichaelsen2643
@michelemichaelsen2643 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed this was 22k in the video. Will 14k or 18k still make nice round balls?
@LeslieKailVillarreal
@LeslieKailVillarreal 5 жыл бұрын
18k will i know a master who does all his granulation in 18k
@michelemichaelsen2643
@michelemichaelsen2643 5 жыл бұрын
@@LeslieKailVillarreal thanks!
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 5 жыл бұрын
Great question, Michele. If done properly, you can get balls close to these. Due to the increased amount of copper in 14k and 18k alloys, the metal tends to oxidize during the melt and this will hinder the formation of nice clean balls like you get with 22k gold; however, this is not to say that it cannot be done. We recommend using a charcoal block and a reducing flame and dip the rings in flux before melting.
@njdougie
@njdougie 6 жыл бұрын
what brand are your shears? I'm not sure what I should buy
@RioGrande1944
@RioGrande1944 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Nisha, The shears used in this video are the Fumasi shears, you can see them here: ow.ly/E3x730ky7Pt Hope this helps.
@njdougie
@njdougie 6 жыл бұрын
Rio Grande thank you
@user-tp7qe4sp8m
@user-tp7qe4sp8m 7 ай бұрын
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@Streamcatcher
@Streamcatcher 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, but why not add glue to your water from the very beginning? Hint: you can also drink less coffee 😊
@Larry21924
@Larry21924 5 ай бұрын
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@armanth7865
@armanth7865 4 жыл бұрын
Very good but you talk too much
@rockingship1238
@rockingship1238 6 жыл бұрын
There are public facilities that produce these things so you don’t actually need these things they offer
@kristiecsu
@kristiecsu 5 жыл бұрын
What materials is she using for the balls and the backplate?
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