Making Bureaucracies Sexier with Yuval Noah Harari | What Now? with Trevor Noah Podcast

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[@ninp4890]

Me please 😂😂

[@DrGloriaEsoimeme]

Matthew Hussey

[@BlossomingSpice]

Gabor Mate. Alok Kanojia. Or a series with folks like Simon Sinek focusing on interpersonal skills, WRT cultivating and maintaining friendships, bestie boo-boos and all because there should be an entire series on that.

[@antenehchanyalew8594]

Slavoj zizek

[@kaihuramercy1673]

James Sexton. He is a divorce lawyer. Brilliant guy!

[@gabrielcourchaine3012]

My two favorite people in the same room. Trevor was the reason I began reading in my late teens. Yuval solidified my decision to be a history major.

[@18919841]

My two favourite people too

[@bmwx5power]

Mine too!

[@camiloquiroga1108]

Agree!!

[@JacksonStricksOn]

Love this!!

[@julietdroom1439]

Wow! I feel the same.

[@jamarleypalmer855]

If there wasn’t so many things going on in the world right now this podcast would be the standard of all other podcasts. Real people discussing real issues.

[@MeTubeWithYouToo]

So many podcasts are boring. This is the kind of conversation that you dream of hearing as you move through your day. Definitely not boring!

[@tygiovanni5314]

I am a 65 year old poliglot, have lived in 4 countries, spent the 1st 28 yars of my life in communist soviet occupied socialist Hungary. About half way trough watching this podcast, I started to send it to friends, about 2/3rd of the way I realized, that I would have re watch this many more times, (same as I did listen to my copy of "Born a Crime" CD set, that I bought when it came out from Barnes and Noble). Now, I have to go back and Google the work of that lady in the middle of the conversation, as she is new to me. she does not say mutch, but when she does, oh boy, she is sharper than anyone I know, and every tines turns, and twists the conversation, onto an unexpected new direction. posing questions, that neither of these 2 Noahs never thought of.... WOW!

[@nickstephenlim3882]

Yes she is amazing+ more.

[@cindydunning2183]

Christiana Mbakwe.

[@StanislavKlinikov]

She is there to raise a "racism" theme from time to time.)) Also, she is a liar. Let me explain: she insisted that there is racism in the way nurses take the blood pressure differently for black people. That's a clear lie. Did you Google this fact too, or skipped it??

[@paulmakinson1965]

​@StanislavKlinikov everyone has biases. People chose to believe in certain 'facts' in function of their beliefs instead of the other way around. It's just confirmation bias.

[@Marieruth333]

​@@StanislavKlinikovmaybe what she says happens somewhere and we don't know where.

[@carlosross4547]

My admiration of Trevor Noah has grown with this podcast. Not only did he do the homework for the conversation but he has the talent, background and intelligence to be able to present the right (and deep) questions not only about the book but also about the author to put everything in context. I hope this conversation is seen and heard by millions of people. I think I am now ready to read the book

[@weleeyum]

When Trevor was able to talk about Arafat and Rabin, as well as quote what the Go player said after he lost to AlphaGo, I knew this podcast series will be my favourite!!! It is very rare to find podcasts with hosts that can discuss a topic at equal level with the expert they are inviting. Sometimes I’m just so disappointed by podcasts hosts inability to ask the right questions on our behalf. But this is the kind of Q&A I have been hungry for. Thanks Trevor and team for making this happen!!!

[@isaacfink123]

Which episode did he talk about Arafat and Rabin?

[@ModelSisters]

Best "What Now" podcast guest yet! I love both Yuval and Trevor... what a joy listening to both of them.

[@josephstandish599]

Heard many interviews with Yuval Harari, this is the only one that seems in spots to try and get past Nexus and more into the man behind it. Well done Trevor! That's a skillset that is more instilled in your character than learned later in life.

[@paschalogochuks2954]

Check his interview with Sam Harris but this is great too..

[@ouldsaidmohamednadhir1841]

When u learn more from the podcast than from reading the book itself, trevor and the lady were sharp, their questions were deep, the conversation seemed authentic, and went in unscripted directions, they could pull things out of yuval in a way that no other interviewer did. Thank you all

[@goodnatureart]

Who is Trevor Noah? The man who introduced me to Christiana, who is my new North Star for asking great questions in interviews. Seriously great to watch a show where people actually read the books.

[@tamimator]

She’s amazing!

[@kez0469]

Today I was an un-productive worker bacause of this video and I am proud of it. Thank you for share this wonderful conversation with us

[@armadillo-ol]

Proudly South African! Great interview with an inspirational guest. Thanks!

[@fayemoss7282]

On a micro scale what the guest states is truth. As a mother, wife and nurse. Looking back on my life. It was easier when my children were young because momma could fix their problems. Kiss away their hurts. My husband and I had passion between us. I was fulfilled in my work. Now I am raising my grandson after his mother's passing. I work from home , which has really adversely affected my health. My husband is surviving prostate cancer. So I try to constantly find the silver lining. I have my husband who I love til death and beyond. When I am too tired. I remind myself that this second chance with Elijah is a gift, so I read that bedtime story. "Life is what happens when you have other plans".

[@goodnatureart]

Surprising conversation with Harari I watched after your interview with Coates. I love Christiana!

[@subuness]

Thank you to all three of you for doing what you do! ❤️ This conversation was so rich with wisdom.

[@MichaelMayda-b2m]

you got me man...its so much better to listen to a conversation that has equal minds. This is not the norm. Great work this is the absolute best!!

[@Evelaneful]

Thanks!

[@Shakeel.Irshad]

Both Noahs together in the same room.... Favourite podcast

[@rosegarden3686]

Thank you Yuval ~ my views being different from someone else's views does not equate to different truths. Truth is truth ~ we don't have our own truths, only our own views.

[@hanat3584]

I almost never comment and THANK YOU! For making content and giving your platform for helping people think, reflect and hopefully broaden their horizons. You, your voice and platform are a gift.

[@Mr.MBarrett]

I really appreciate this conversation. You all carefully and effectively navigated through some very difficult topics that I think no matter where you stand on these issues, you either learned something or were given some valuable insights to think about or even reconsider. Thank you! 👏🏿👏🏿

[@davidcuadra2814]

I loved this talk because it is exactly that, trust what keeps our society and the systems running. No trust, no society. The only thing is that we need to have an informed trust and that's the hardest part because the most you're informed at times you end up distrusting

[@omarnef6034]

Thank you! This is the best ever (so far) Yuval interview/conversation!

[@jeehyeon]

One of the best conversations ever! So insightful and thought-provoking. Thanks!!

[@drebugsita]

Venezuelan here, paused at 24:14 to express my gratitude to Yuval for how he cites the recent political history of Venezuela. Chavez’s presidency did indeed begin as part of the country’s long history of democratically elected leaders - however it became dictatorial over the years (especially after the US-backed coup in 2002) and indeed became a blatant dictatorship with Maduro (many would argue earlier). It is very refreshing to hear someone from and within the US reference Venezuela with a grounded and unbiased take. For those interested, Chavez was very astute and learned he had to play the game of democracy - he initially tried to become president in 1992 by attempting a coup. He failed and was imprisoned. But it was while Chavez was in jail that he cinched his future win; he went on air and gave what appeared to be a very heartfelt apology to “the people.” That was when he gained the popularity - the unofficial power - that he would need to become a democratically elected president. He had a cult leader-like ability to harness the power of his words to create a vision of the country that demanded he stay in office ever more time to realize the egalitarian reality of “the revolution.” Regardless of political ideology or position, abuse of (unchecked) power is no surprise.

[@loveroflife1914]

Viva Venezuela libre

[@freedom3390]

Very interesting comment. I had a conversation with a person from central America who explained that many people from her country and Venezuela living in America have not shed themselves of the beliefs that allow a Chavez to rise to power.

[@etherian]

Good to see you again Trevor! Good luck with the podcast ❤

[@kabelomahlosana]

The interview I've been waiting for since discovering Yuval 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@rhaimondesuggs5127]

This is an amazing first guest. I'm glad to see he's getting more coverage on thoughtful media channels. 👍🧠💪☺️.

[@kaltimoktober]

You do realise he's not the first guest and this whole podcast is almost a year old?

[@Azzoo_0]

That trust part added a new perspective to me. Ungratefulness is one main root cause for pessimism.

[@MogamatIsaacs-jf1wv]

Trevor Noah is like my hero

[@tamimator]

Love how Trevor plays the optimist here. Yuval's outlook can feel bleak, but the interviewers highlight two key points: 1) his grim future is already a reality for marginalized groups, and 2) change can push us to evolve and see things in new ways.

[@metafuel]

Superb conversation. I would love these humans to make this a monthly chat. Mind expanding.

[@jeffwong1310]

56:23 This is so true. I think modern society has been pursuing the wrong goal of life. Happiness/Joy is stage of mood. It can only last for a moment. It's not sustainable. The Pixar movie, Inside Out, also points it out. You can't just look for happiness in your life, you also need to embrace sad / sorrowful moment in your life. The word "Truth" in Chinese shows the Zenism. It literally means "the way". The pursue of truth is a "way" of life, it's how you live your life. Therefore, enjoy any moment in your life, (the smell, the taste, the touch, the feeling at that moment) since it only happens once in your life.

[@victoriavilna6621]

It's So true!!

[@roughhabit9085]

“Data is not information, information is not knowledge, knowledge is not understanding, and understanding is not wisdom” ~ Clifford Stoll

[@ext1013]

I can sense the admiration in Trevor's face of Harari.

[@roughhabit9085]

My pugs give me the same vibes.

[@ShahiedaAhamed]

Best time to watch it on is quiet time ❤

[@davidfarrall]

Thanks

[@AyeletteRaviv]

Thank you for having this beautiful conversation, and for sharing it with us.

[@WelcomeFreeMailBox]

This edition of "Now What" got us completely off reading the title. "Making Bureaucracies Sexier"is not about putting make-up to look attractive to any one's eye, everyone. Critical thinking food served here. We have had a great time with you in studio. This edition had done what we are still hoping the UN will allow us to experience. Inform us, Educate us and let us judge eye, ears and spirit open. Awesome job, Mr. Noah!!! Great points also from co-host. We like her objection on AI and its specificity. It gave the host the opportunity to explain more. You are one of a kind, Mr. Noah. You are always masterclass!!! "What Now with Trevor Noah", our show!!!

[@mihaelaulieru3063]

I absolutely love Trevor!! He is like that AI which gives us new perspectives about a topic which Id have never thought of before... I thought I know it all a out Yuval's Nexus - since I listened to him already on many podcasts, but as a great fan of Trevor I couldn't resist hearing this one also. So happy I did, as Trevor found angles no one else revealed about to topic before and knew how to challenge Yuval to also shift hie perspective. BRAVOS 👏👏👏

[@JaquentaJackie]

One thing I have noticed about AI application is that it learns the end-user defaults and customizes the user experience based on their default settings. What humans consider "thinking," is just the AI "predicting" or calculating the action of the end-user based on their previous actions.

[@bmwx5power]

My child uses it to solve mathematical problems in her homework written by her teacher

[@BarbraBond]

This was a good conversation. Giving people the benefit of the doubt isn't always easy, but, in my experience, it was the necessary groundwork to lay so to ensure people felt valued enough to speak honestly and open enough to receive feedback that they were willing to consider.

[@3691michelle]

Surprisingly frank and open discussion. It is amazing what truly empathetic and intelligent humans can discuss and the goals they can accomplish. What a pity our leaders can't be the same. I purchased Nexus and look forward to reading it

[@dxs_nightwolff]

You thee click so well together. Great chat!

[@soraiasaid4897]

Amazing conversation ! It exploded my mind in the best way I can say !!! Thank you !!!

[@criticallyskeptic3766]

Very informative. Trevor, was quiet most of the time. Just listening and allowing his guest Yuval to explain and expound on his ideas, points and opinions. I am not sure if Christina, really read Sapiens, Homo Deus, 21 Lessons or even Nexus. But good episode, loved it.

[@tvince1020]

Wow. Just wow. Hearing from my favorite author, who by the way, isn't a terrible human being when he himself has to deal with difficult issues (which by the way isn't brought on by himself and he himself has no control over - he was simply born Iserali), and one of my favorite human being if not THE favorite, Trevor, talk about pointed issues. IS JUST WOW.

[@kudra29]

The bad guy example is always Putin, never Netanyahu 😅. So insightful.

[@trento777]

Yuval does mention Putin and Netanyahu @ 1:10:00 "Drunk people".

[@danielkh7103]

Netanyahu is an angel compared to Putin this guy has Millions of people of blood on his hands Chechen 1st-2nd war, Afghanistan, Syria, Ukraine, Georgia. Just in 2nd Chechen war 300,000 dead alone.

[@lapserdak24]

Netanyahy did not start a war, which a huge difference. There are many bad people, but only a handful started wars

[@Sepi.thedude]

So happy to see arguments with a soul and realistic. we should speak up ideas and challenge them and this was very nice.

[@tamimator]

Christiana, excellently pushing back! TY 🙏

[@LittleSailboat]

I can’t watch this live. This is right when I’m supposed to be on the road for work. 😂 But I like the idea of live chatting with people during an episode!

[@Rogermkinsella]

I am glad you are doing this for your fans.

[@abhijnabhattacharya9033]

Love this conversation.... Wonderful thought process of professor.... Never faced such a realist by book or podcast before.... Read first two of his book... '21 lessons...' going on.... Fact, truth and reality are 3 different realms that we try to connect all the time

[@SaintJada1991]

Absolutely Incredible Podcast. What a time to be alive!

[@lokiji108]

Excellent conversation

[@laminmbaye7751]

I must say that what i learned today is that we live in a really complicated world than we can even contemplate or imagine.

[@groovemark]

That quote about Will Smith siding with the alien intelligence is so funny

[@tunde37]

by far the best podcast available btw

[@alexgoslar4057]

What an inspiring conversation. Thank you for sharing.

[@laurenceum2657]

Instead of "Artificial" intelligence, we should talk about "Alien" intelligence. I like that!

[@Purplepapaz]

What a GREAT interview ❤ I saved it for sure 😅 BUT as of yet HOW will I find it (huh AI ) again afterwards 😂

[@ElizabethMohr]

I appreciate this thoughtful invitation to consider our design as humans; thank you. What stands out most to me today is that we may have an innate capacity to be trusting and shrewd at once. A gentle balance, perhaps.

[@roxanneepstein5329]

Another intriguing conversation love to hear the pov of Israel & S Africa regarding Gaza. Thank you xo

[@laminmbaye7751]

Trevor i knew you are a prophet and that you will come out of this information war on the right side. Continue the good work

[@denisejanowicz2684]

Wonderful interview!

[@Moses_42]

"The problem is ignorance not evil" Know Thyself...

[@racheldocknox]

But it’s not just ignorance. It’s also hubris despite ignorance, and, on top of that, scarcity mindset. Is this inherently evil? No, but it surely makes the perfect milieu for evil to root, fester, spread, and consume.

[@SamahTokmachi-g2e]

This was wonderful but one correction on Yuval-he says many Israelis are of Middle Eastern heritage whose families were expelled from their countries in retaliation for the Neqba. He is correct that many Israels have heritage from the Middle Eastern countries. But speaking as someone of Persian-Iraqi Jewish lineage, the Jews of Iraq (which he mentions as one of those countries) were not expelled-their lives were made intolerable and so they went through great trouble to be smuggled out. His greater point still stands-but they were not expelled but intensely targeted and drawn to the promise of a better life outside their country of birth.

[@maxibluft]

i think he's paraphrasing, what you describe is essentially expelsion, there might have been some positive reasons for those jews to emigrate too, but even if they'd really wanted to stay in Iraq or Iran (or almost any other Arab country) there was literally almost no practical way for them to do so without eventually getting killed or brutalised, as you can tell by the fact that barely a single openly Jewish person has survived in any of these countries.

[@HarMoneyKah]

Thank you for sharing this man with the world. I enjoy everything you share with us. In this case, I clicked because I genuinely thought you were going to provide an answer to the "What Now?" 😂 🙈💩🤷🏽‍♀️

[@TheVishnu8]

Evaded Fact versus Truth, Optimist versus Pessimist and many similar questions.

[@robertjessen2521]

Yes! I found the interview!

[@helennyima1490]

I really loved this conversation. I think we have to educate ourselves about power structure in society and psychology (specifically about holding space for multiple truths in one self). I believe something is true for me, because it adds to my belief system, not because it's "really" true. We have to dismantle our own belief system. A shift from true or false to as well as. Stay blessed in this shifting times🙏🏾

[@LinaOrphanides-jz2lb]

Be and let be.

[@madeyemada]

Great talk

[@mariaskrzipczyk6863]

"In fact, I am of the opinion that evil is always extreme, but never radical, it has no depth and no demonic nature. It can devastate the entire world precisely because it continues to grow like a fungus on the surface. But only the good is deep and radical.“ Hannah Arendt

[@mariaskrzipczyk6863]

Her assumption is that the banality of evil occurs when a person, as a responsible human being, refuses to think about the consequences of his/ her actions!

[@roughhabit9085]

“Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority “ ~ Mencken

[@listowellgibersonrevelatio6053]

regards from Ghana Listening to this podcast I’m imagining Trevor having a chat with Sadhguru

[@anamurrugarra5166]

Amazing episode!

[@roughhabit9085]

“Woe to the people that cannot limit the sphere of action of the state. Freedom, private enterprise, wealth, happiness , independence, personal dignity, all vanish “ ~ Frederic Bastiat

[@USmetallist]

Trevor Noah has a podcast? And... one of the best comedic satirist... Speaks with my favorite #depressing #pessimist 😅 YuvalHarari

[@dharmakaurkhalsa3923]

Great insightful conversation between great thinkers! Thanks

[@LEEJUNGEUN1000]

He is one of my favorite thinkers too.

[@almitradesuezadelgado]

De las mejores entrevistas que he visto. Muchas gracias ❤

[@SaSa-xe6dy]

What a beautiful question by Noah @40.30 and equally satisfying answer by other Noah 👍👍👍

[@setso_za]

Great conversation. Trevor is really careful on naming the Palestinian people and their trouble's, it's not a bad thing but it's interesting where his perspective comes from...

[@marleneedmunds4588]

great podcast. now to read the book.

[@vincenzab8433]

This podcast helped me understand the complexity of the world and the role of AI in our present and future. It provides useful reflections to carry with me and apply in every moment of life. Thanks so much..

[@healinspaces4u]

"If humans are smart why are we so stupid?" 😮🥶

[@Ramon-Maronier]

Trust is constant hard work. The general idea of what trust is is part of the problem. It’s not something that is, or naturally exist between certain people, or people and certain organizations, but something that needs to be build and cultivated, and then build again. We are the eco system, and the way we connect is what makes us better. We need to find ways to trust our ability to negotiate, so that we through negotiation can find better ways to trust each other.

[@AliciaMarkoe]

Thank you 🦋

[@mfanakithi2002]

Yuval made finally subscribe to the Trevor show.

[@HisAwesome244]

Great minds in one room... beautiful interview

[@DouwedeJong]

great interview. Good questions. Thanks for making this video.

[@siethology]

Thank you for this, it answers a lot of questions yet also gives rise to many difficult ones, like for example: Even if AI can make a 1:1 representation of reality (even on an atomic level) and it can help us navigate the reality better, at what cost are we prepared to pay for it.

[@pacofernandez4591]

Zionism is NOT a fact. It is an ideologi, a wish. Right! You can be an extremely intelligent person blinded by ideology, by wishful thinking.01:03

[@earlpaulson7164]

In minute 26, Yuval laments that there are no blockbuster movies about the budget. I thought of a blockbuster movie that dealt with the budget. - Dave, the 1993 film with Kevin Klein, Sigourney Weaver, and Charles Grodin. It's a great movie.

[@matthewkeating-od6rl]

Great vid

[@marienngouabi4405]

The think just started and he already make a huge point 😅😅😅 5:15. Any one can what ever he wants about his methods but he’s absolutely right. And for the point is because you think that some one is right that you are willing to follow him and give him some of your power. That’s the reason you should take time alone with yourself and think what you are

[@mybachhertzbaud3074]

Yuval is truly an optimist as he belives that things can be better by speaking out. If you are more comfortable with labels , I will use cynical optimist.🤔 Trust but verify.

[@oliverbrou]

THANK YOU ❤

[@tutifruti7488]

THERE..! All you impatient haters....! He finally addressed it. From the smartest angle and from the horse's mouth itself. 👏👏👏🏼👏🏼👏🏾👏🏾

[@JoshLange3D]

13:23 on AI is great! Don't forget that business is just as guilty of this "you can't trust the competitors to hold back" mindset. Everyone wants to rush forward and be first, even if they don't know what consequences that will bring.