Making Coffee with the KitchenAid Siphon filter

[@tonyb8791]

Your adjectives are delightful. "Clear" markings. "Roughly" 75 degrees. Brilliant!

[@EdytkaMgz]

I think about buying that siphon. I was looking for a video which shows how that thing is cleaned, so thank you for filming the whole process! I actually thought that cleaning would be even more burdensome and more time consuming, so a nice surprise here (yes, it takes time but is less diffucult than expected).

[@Hoeffner100]

I just bought this machine and you're right , it's a pain to clean, but the coffee tastes wonderful, no bitterness.

[@gurdyman1]

Siphon brewers are known for this, whether manual or automatic.

[@mrtyreus0]

And way before the Electric KitchenAid Siphon Brewer was the Pyrex Electric Siphon Brewer. Just won one on eBay, never used. It's a beautiful work of art.

[@audinos4827]

This looks like a well-made machine. I had a Bodum Santos, which looked cool, but was made of plastic. Over several years, the glues holding the internal components in the base began to crack, allowing water into the electrical area. I currently use a glass syphon over a halogen burner (the cheaper Chinese model) but it takes about fifteen minutes to make around two cups.

[@pmkleinp]

I have a 1951 vintage Silex siphon coffee pot. It makes a great cup of coffee, but it's a pain to clean out the used grounds. If I'm not pressed for time I will rinse it with the garden hose outside.

[@kfl611]

That is such a guy statement. I just can't see women rinsing it with a garden hose !!!!!!

[@oldman6172]

Years ago it had some popularity for a short time I remember seeing them in some restraints and dinners but I believe the extra work and fairly small production was why they stopped before I started drinking coffee

[@anonnymous6910]

Hahaha "You can feel the steam coming off. It's pretty much burning me" I like this guy.

[@MtnLiner]

I thought the same thing. I’m still laughing. A very good and useful review.

[@alpsskiman]

I had tried the Bodum Santos coffee maker back in 2002. Due to issues with the electronics I ended up returning it. When it worked right it made a fantastic cup of coffee. I have no doubt this KitchenAid brewer does as well. Considering I start just about every morning with coffee I would find this brewer too much of a hassle to clean every day. I love my Technivorm Moccamaster drip brewer. Makes great coffee and cleanup is far easier.

[@nispen]

Great video. Clear and exhaustive. Much appreciated.

[@JoeBlac]

First 8 minutes: Cool. 8:26 I'm gonna get one. 10:20 Yeah, no.

[@Howardhandupme]

if you stir while water is in top vessel just before draw down starts it'll give you better pull thru grounds. just like traditional vacuum siphon makers

[@tommyboy4128]

Looks like a cleaning nightmare. Good video!!!!👍🏻

[@iloveplayingbass]

Thank you very much, this was very interesting. As we are highly keen of very good coffee and we are trying to extract the maximum taste, your videos are treasures for us. Especially that these tools are expensive, so we cannot buy each of them to try them out :-) Thank you again !

[@PleaseFallSilently]

I recommend the Bodum ePebo. Much easier to use and makes great coffee.

[@chefpetey]

A whole new level of rigmarole!

[@FrodosMom]

I have 2 Sunbeam vacuum pots from the 1950's just like the one my parents used every morning.They has two temps. Hi for boiling and making the water go up in the top to brew the coffee and a keep warm temp. As soon as the water boils the switch flips down to the keep warm temp. You have to unplug it to just turn it off. When not making coffee the bottom can make boiling water pretty fast. I guess it hasn't been a hassle to clean it for me as I have a garbage disposal and I just rinse the grounds down it. It has a cloth filter but the filter is held in a frame work so those string things are not needed. In one of the pots there is a spring that holds the filter down when you put the rod down the tube and hook the little 90 degree bent end of the rod on the bottom of the tube, the other model has a rod that runs to the bottom of the pot where there is threaded stem it screws onto to hold the filter down when the water comes up into the top. I should use it more often. I use a single cup pod brewer most of the time now.

[@TheHungryFerret]

I been looking into getting some vintage ones. Maybe I will get something like those off ebay.

[@FrodosMom]

Thats where I got mine.

[@lilypurganan5861]

klcostle i

[@charliebeagle3220]

We had one of those Sunbeam pots when I was growing up. I've become tired of the expense of K-Cups so I wondered if these vacuum pots still existed and discovered the KitchenAid but was dismayed to find out that once it made the coffee it had no setting for keeping it warm. I found vintage Sunbeams, Corys and GE pots for sale on EBay and decided to buy a GE because they're glass so you can watch the process as it happens and not have any metallic taste. The little red button that activates the burner seems to be kind of iffy, it tends to want to pop out to the warming mode so I have to watch it to make sure the burner stays on high so the brewing can happen. Other than that it seems to work fine and makes great coffee so I'm hoping it continues to work. It sure adds a bit of 1940's flair to the kitchen. If I had it to do over again though I'd buy the KitchenAid, it's not as visually interesting but probably more reliable.

[@gurdyman1]

The Sunbeam filter assembly will work in the KitchenAid, but you have to straighten the bend at the top to be able to reach it. I did this and use it regularly.

[@gaaryg]

A very informative review. One really has to be a coffee "snob" to go through all the extra work that is required to make a pot of coffee and then clean the brewer. I was thinking of purchasing one but, for me at least, all the extra effort isn't worth the benefit.

[@mattmetzker8227]

Just buy a percolator its the same principle

[@gurdyman1]

@@mattmetzker8227 percolators reheat/re-brew water that has already been brewed once. This causes a burnt taste. There is no comparison to a percolator. I own several siphon brewers (including this one) and several percolators. Siphon brewers taste far far better. In my opinion, better than any drip maker I have experienced, too.

[@roundtheworld2737]

@@gurdyman1 How about stainless steel stovetop moka pot? Do you know which one is better? I have not decided yet which one to buy.

[@gurdyman1]

@@roundtheworld2737 I like moka pots, but I like the coffee from vac pots more. Moka pots do cost less than the KitchenAid, but you are also limited in how many cups per brew. I brew a whole 8 cup pot and pour into an insulated server. This makes about 5 mugs for my total daily brew.

[@roundtheworld2737]

@@gurdyman1 Thanks for your information.

[@chantym08]

This a a complete video I always wonder about the cleaning process thanks so much :)

[@jimmiller1810]

Thanks for the informative video! Questions: 1) Can you make a very strong, almost espresso like cup of coffee? What you poured looked weak and watery. 2) Have you tried brewing without the cloth filter? Is it possible?

[@TheHungryFerret]

+Jim Miller The cup i have in the video is very flavorful, it not as dark because it was a lighter roast. If you want darker looking coffee, you can just add more coffee / use a darker roast. Maybe a moka pot would be a better option if you like more of a espresso. You can skip the cloth filter, it will just have more grit / sediment. You can avoid the grit by using a coarser grind. It will taste more like a french press.

[@jimmiller1810]

Thank you for the quick response. I'm leaning toward giving it a try.

[@gewglesux]

I just bought this thing.... makes a damn fine cuppa -which is the reward i get after cleaning this thing.. Question.... that cloth filter.... is it mandatory?

[@csu111]

Good video. Cool machine, but looks like it’s too time consuming while getting ready for work in the morning.

[@dennislilly2818]

I dig the background music...

[@stephenbrown8898]

I like this coffee machine because it's fast. I wish it had a keep warm setting and a longer handle on ths brewing unit. I use a thermos for whats left. The coffee tastes a little better than the Sunbeam C50 makes to my taste. Not sure why. The Sunbeam takes longer too. Clean up.... Well it does take longer but I like the coffee better so I'll put up with it. Just not everyday. It's a treat so I'll put up with it. All in all I like the coffee it makes so I'll put up with the 5 minutes it takes to clean it.

[@JonathanFingold]

thanks for detailing this - i was thinking about buying it, but the daily cleanup looks like a total nightmare and not worthwhile. i would want to be able to clean out the carafe by hand and then also the filter arrangment and grounds disposal needs a total redesign from a perspective of daily use - i'm stuck at home with nothing to do but i don't wanna clean this

[@TheHungryFerret]

Glad it was helpful!

[@gabygybonu]

Thank you very much for taking the time to make this video...like the idea but way too much work...

[@jimglidewell]

Yeah - I remembered a coffee maker like this from when I was a kid, and thought it might be cool to own one. Really appreciate that the video showed the cleaning process, which seems like a crazy amount of work... I’ll pass... 😉

[@MrHelidude]

Who even comes up with these ideas of ways to try and make a simple cup of coffee? LOL Great video ...... ☆☆☆☆☆

[@gurdyman1]

The idea dates back to the 1850's. It predates percolators.

[@weekendwarrior5303]

2:42 I'm more impressed with that Pyrex stove top pot

[@mailbox1016]

Liked the vid well done. I was thinking of buying as it looks neat but it also looks like a pain to clean every time you use it, that would put me off. You did'nt say there was a keep warm function so making a pot full would be a mistake.

[@directquote]

Great thorough review.

[@crista1154]

Super Speed on Sundays 💯

[@cieloyapura197]

Hi, nice video! I have a question! How often do I have to change the cloth filter? Thanks

[@marcelhurtado5766]

horio now makes an electric one and it’s pretty easy to use. bought it on amazon.

[@ironellydiaz4239]

WOW! That’s a lot of work for coffee. Great video, thank you.

[@AcornFox]

This is so easy compared to the old siphon brewers.

[@larrycirigliano3520]

Very good demo. Question, some videos show putting the coffee in the upper chamber after all the water has risen to the top. Let it remain for 1-minute stirring, then remove from the burner. Any difference when you put in the coffee grinds? Larry

[@multimood]

I'd love to get one but 200 bucks seems a lot to pay to something so hard to clean

[@kagimuhadad1653]

Great art piece bro, how often can one use the cloth filter, is it a one time use?

[@65WZ]

The cleaning process means, I can drink coffee once or twice a week. It's too much work, and consumes a lot of water.

[@maxmin2031]

It seems like an even bigger chore to clean up this beast.

[@richardpaccheco6554]

That’s only when it’s left uncleared for a week! I have this coffee maker I rinse it out with the sink sprayer using hot water easy cleaning

[@user-hu7qg6pk4r]

Por favor necesito ayuda, quebré ayer el recipiente en forma de esfera, no encuentro el repuesto. Dónde lo puedo comprar? Gracias

[@shivlumba9287]

Can the lower carafe be used as a an independent water kettle for heating water?

[@manuelpenaruiz3694]

Hi! I read from a user complaining on how under extracted the resulting coffee was. Is this accurate? In the video you mention you really loved the taste of the coffee. I'm using a Hario Syphon and absolutely love it but this unit seems way easier to use. Would highly appreciate your comments!

[@gurdyman1]

I'm not the guy that posted this video, but thought I'd comment seeing as I have owned one for two years, and have used manual siphon brewers for about 25 years. The coffee the KitchenAid makes is wonderful, and takes a bit less coffee to get there than my Bunn auto drip for the same amount of cups. Tastes better than the Bunn, too.

[@maricelacamarena1672]

I have really considered buying this machine, but not sure about all of the untraditional logistics of cleaning it.

[@TheHungryFerret]

It not that bad, but it not as easy as the normal drip ones. It depends if you lean more kcup or pourover, in terms of effort.

[@task82]

Great video. But the product looks like a PITA. Thanks for taking the time to put this video together :)

[@TheHungryFerret]

It not too bad, but compared to other machines, yeah a pain.

[@blklacquer]

I didn’t realize how long I had this and my top is missing😢

[@PalJoey-rm2yh]

A pain in the ass to clean. You can get a clean, smooth tasting cup with a simple pour-over method. P.S. the Bodum version of this machine is fragile as hell and expensive to replace parts.

[@amyahdocq8835]

Well, let me tell you my story. I have one of those for about 5 years now... I LOVE it, coffee is delicious but... yes, there is a but... no more a BUT... there is problem with this plus the fact that the service from the company is very poor... it was very unpleasant and still is to this day. Please note that I take great care on my appliances. I have some for 35 years and they still work perfectly and are looking like new. I would send you a picture of the carafe and the top part and, besides the broken handle and etc... my coffee machine looks like new. Just few months after buying the machine, the handle of the top part broke, leaving just an ugly and very hot metal bar... I almost dropped the top part when it broke and just caught it before it fell to the floor... ... burning my hands.. Contacting the company and arguing with them was very unpleasant. Then they reluctantly sent me another top part. Everything went well... at least for another few months, until the handle broke again the exact same way. Called again, argue, and they refused to replace it, flatly, even though I had this carafe for only few months. So now, I have to wrap a paper towel around the metal part to not burn myself while taking the top part off the bottom part after the brewing. Then, it started to collapse... plastic parts under the top part started to break down, parts of that "plastic/bakelite/whatever they name it" were just breaking down with parts of the plastic falling in the coffee (hmmm lots of parts words in this sentence). Then, I lost one of the magnet while taking the top part off the bottom part and had to dish it in the coffee pot. And the plastic is still falling, bit by bit, and I find little parts of that plastic in my cups of coffee. The worst is that now, the seal isn't as tight anymore and it makes a loud whistling sound while brewing and, obviously, the pressure is lesser... still working for the moment... but for how long. It doesn't make the strong flush back into the carafe anymore, I find it unacceptable that a coffee syphon machine of that price just break down like this... I paid $300 plus tax for that darn thing 5 years ago. I am very sad and hope it will last as I love it but... ... KitchenAid are now renown for their bad warranty service response and I think it is not OK mostly as their appliances are really not cheap. Nice attractive designs, I agree but... ... How yours stand it, Hungry Ferret?

[@janetsryan871]

can you turn the heat back on to keep the coffee warm?

[@TheHungryFerret]

it would just re boil the coffee into the grounds

[@janetsryan871]

+The Hungry Ferret what I mean I'd after you've taken the top part off

[@TheHungryFerret]

It would just reheat the coffee. Probably something that you do not want to happen.

[@janetsryan871]

+The Hungry Ferret do just make small batches. got it. thanks.

[@TheHungryFerret]

I would just put it in a good thermos, should last for hours. The clean up is a pit.

[@tracireagan861]

Does the filter have to be dry in order to be used again? Can you purchase extra filters?

[@TheHungryFerret]

It can be wet, it may be tough to find filters for this machine now. It possible you can take other siphon filters or even not use the filter.

[@joelewis8770]

How many times can you reuse the cloth filter? Can you make your own using cheese cloth or similar material?

[@gurdyman1]

The cloth filter is good for around 50-70 brews. Replacements are available on Amazon and other places.

[@QueenOfHearts808]

And is the cloth filter reusable?

[@jazzmoos5382]

Looking for ONLY 100% plastic-free. Preferably glass. Automatic. Not manual pour Electric, not with a fire underneath. Vacuum would be great but the plastic-free ones I’ve found you have to light. Any suggestions?

[@TheHungryFerret]

Not of the top of my head, plastic is very much a everyday part of our lives. The infra light stoves for the vacuum coffee makers are very very expensive.

[@gurdyman1]

I have owned the KitchenAid brewer for two years now. The plastic has no effect on the taste that I can tell. I have been using manual siphen brewers since the 1980's.

[@slyrate89]

How often is it required to be cleaned? After every brew, once a day, once a week ?

[@gurdyman1]

I own one, and several manual siphon brewers. It needs to be at least rinsed out after every brew. Cleaning it thoroughly once a week will be fine. I occasionally run a 50/50 water/vinegar through it to super clean.

[@mustafahawari7688]

The cost of the machine is $300 dollars plus. Is there another place to purchase it cheaper?

[@Scry1]

Hi there, can you use the bottom half of this unit as a standalone kettle? (by removing the brewing chamber, putting the lid on and turning it on)...will it turn off automatically?

[@TheHungryFerret]

+Natahn Spelman I am not sure, I only borrowed this machine for a while. There doesn't seem anything to prevent you from starting to boil with a top. I think there is a sensor (temperature) to know when to shut off. With water in the kettle, it probably will never shut off till it is dry.

[@michelcoste938]

On dirai du jus de chaussette il a un gout de plus que l'eau se café

[@kaiserWilli2]

Thanks for that great video! So by now, I'm always using a standard Bialetti Mokka pot with conventional coffee (Arabica, no special roast whatsoever, standard grind as available by most coffee brands). Do you think the coffee frim the siphon brewer is comparable in taste and strength?

[@TheHungryFerret]

This style is more like french press coffee, it won't be as strong as a Mokka pot which is sometimes compared to an espresso like drink.

[@jainthomas6223]

Great demonstration, but for the amount of coffee grounds you put in there, it still looked like Weak Coffee.

[@bettermost]

I wrecked several pots before I figured out how to put that filter in.

[@robpaananen5449]

So can you or can't you make a bong out of it we're all waiting to know!!! 😂

[@deanhenthorn1890]

And that is why instant coffee became popular.

[@QueenOfHearts808]

Do you have to boil the filter every time you want to brew coffee?

[@TheHungryFerret]

No just the first time, and it is reusable.

[@wheelmanjosh1982]

Do you have to boil the cloth filter every time you use it? Not being able to submerge the carafe, or clean it out entirely because of the lip is a no go for me and disqualifies this machine. Also, the pain in the ass of having to tie a string on the cloth filter is drudgery at best. The cloth filter will not last very many times before it starts to deteriorate, I'm sure. Have you tried using just the metal filter, and see if it works without the cloth one?

[@TheHungryFerret]

I don't, but you probably should do it more than less, to keep bacteria etc from growing on it. You also have to replace it time to time.

[@whocaresstone6627]

why would i let the coffee cool down I want it hot

[@scotianbank]

Good video, but pro tip from Costa Rica (we take our coffee very seriously here xD). NEVER, I repeat, NEVER wash a cloth filter with soap, you want to clean it with warm water, that way, the flavor of the coffee doesn't get compromised, and some people even say that the filter develops a particular flavor with time (like chef's cookware does).

[@TheHungryFerret]

Sounds gross and amazing at the same time!

[@Scarekrow24]

I have a sunbeam c20b that I paid a whopping 20 bucks for and it does the exact same thing. I guess the other 180 dollars is the privilege of it being made of glass? I'm at a loss.

[@TheHungryFerret]

This does have "upgraded" modern features such as the magnetic connections and glass. But I believe this is a low volume item, which means higher prices. Generally Siphon coffee makers are as popular. I seen stove top ones at around $100.

[@Scarekrow24]

I get that its a low volume item, but it's not like a major brand like kitchenaid couldn't churn them out like cupcakes at a birthday party.I have one of the 100 dollar stove top models. This one for 200 just seems excessive.

[@TheHungryFerret]

Kitchenaid will probably not churn them out because it will just sit on the shelf since it is a specialty item. Specialty items area always higher priced than their "less improved" versions such as a chemex, mochamaster, or Yamas of the world. For whatever business reason the lower brands / models won't do the "improvements" for a little bit more. I mean sunbeam themselves stop making them entirely.

[@Scarekrow24]

I know they won't, I'm just trying the make the point that kitchenaide, while a major brand, isn't known for high quality, just moderately high prices. I think the vacuum pot, for the most part, fell out of favor because people were/are either too lazy or too hurried to take time to enjoy the simple things in life.

[@vintageappliguy]

No Kevin the other $180 bucks spent on this pot is for the privilege of having the Kitchen Aid name on your coffee maker...what a joke.... I have two vintage electric Silex pots from the 1930’s and a 1948 Sunbeam CoffeeMaster C30 that do the same thing and they cost me a lot less then $200

[@eduardo39NY]

Have you tried to use disposable paper filters?

[@TheHungryFerret]

+Eduardo Carvajal I don't have any disposable ones for this machine. The size and shape of the center hole & pole would make it a challenge.

[@gurdyman1]

If you can find an old Sunbeam Coffeemaster cloth siphon filter assembly (they come up on eBay now and then), they can use a paper filter and will work in this brewer if you bend the top of the wire a bit. I use this method.

[@benjaminbloedorn5653]

I have both a sunbeam electric siphon brewer and a stove top Cory brewer. This kitchenaid is nothing more than a fancier sunbeam 30c. there is not one thing new in invention here, save the magnet lock. One of the nice things about both my brewers is that they require no cloth filter. I don't find that they are hard to clean, though they take a little practice to perfect the method. I say don't waste your money ( 180 bucks!!). go to eBay or search hard at a thrift store, spend less and enjoy the same if not better build quality. Gaskets for the old models are all still available today.

[@maryisenberg5903]

Thanks for the helpful review. I was tempted but, now I am passing

[@FlashGeiger]

I just picked up a Sunbeam a30c at a thrift store for $5 and the seal and heating element look fine. I'm now having to look for a power cord before I can give it a try. I'm checking out videos to see how to use it. Being that it's all nicely shiny chrome instead of glass it won't be quite the show, but it has lasted since the 40s because it isn't glass.

[@gurdyman1]

The problem with old Sunbeams is that many are out of adjustment and either burn the coffee or under-brew it. I have bought several on eBay. Only one worked correctly. It gets expensive bying several to get one that works. BTW, with the KitchenAid, you can leave the cloth off the filter if you want. There is a screen filter there that filters as good as the Sunbeam screen.

[@rxonmymind8362]

Thumbs down NOT on your presentation but this method of making coffee. What a P.I.A. that is to do every time. Thanks for doing this. Need to find something simpler.

[@Howardhandupme]

Rxonmymind is not about time, it's about the product. well worth the little effort to have best cup of coffee you can get

[@gurdyman1]

@@Howardhandupme Agree completely! There is no way to get better coffee.

[@chefpetey]

Rube Goldberg meets Mr Coffee!

[@steelgtr]

Pretty weak looking "see through" coffee there!

[@TheHungryFerret]

In a solid cup the coffee would appear black. The coffee is in a see through cup so you can see the grit and oil.

[@ld7561]

Don't give me that '73.9' g of coffee, it was 74, darn it! 😠☕

[@bunkyman8097]

I think for a machine this expensive, the filter is poorly designed. How about a glass rod like the siphons from the 40's-50's?

[@gmpacheco60]

This is too much work.

[@michelewelch5061]

That's too much like work

[@CainBuckler]

Adding the grounds before the water fills the upper carafe is silly. It over extracts the grounds and you cant control the extraction time. Useless

[@dirtridermag44]

Good video, with the minor exception of the term "grinds", pertaining to the ground coffee. "Grinds" is what a grinder does. "Grounds" is what the grinder produces. Nit picking, I know...just saying..

[@Sbennett76]

Great video...thanks for making. The cleaning process ruined it for me and I am going to just stick w my tried and true method of French pressing.

[@christinec.2376]

Looks too busy, and it takes a bit long. So much to do before coffee.🤔

[@g5magic]

I did that wash and used coffee clogged my sink.

[@gurdyman1]

I dump the grounds into the waste basket and wipe out with a paper towel before rinsing in the sink.

[@Tony-xc5sk]

This thing looks like a nightmare.

[@TheHungryFerret]

Tony it not so bad, the coffee is definitely good.

[@Jobena1]

Honestly looks like a real pain to clean....too long to brew...just seems very messy for a cup of java.

[@fr.j.steelecsc2150]

That cloth seems ridiculous. What would it be like without the cloth?

[@TheHungryFerret]

You will get sediment or grit. I would grind a little coarse.

[@robcapazzi]

How long would say the cloth last and where do you buy the cloth? By the way great video and interesting.

[@TheHungryFerret]

It last a while till it rips. You can buy it from kitchenaid, www.kitchenaid.com/shop/-3/-[KCMCLOTH]-5716096/KCMCLOTH/

[@robcapazzi]

Thanks for fast reply, very helpful.

[@gurdyman1]

@@TheHungryFerret The cloth is available on Amazon as well.

[@Borghetto.Inc04]

1 minute in, and I can already tell this is a pile!!!!!

[@oldgrumpy8303]

What a pain in the ass with the whole ordeal, no thanks , I’ll stay with my old reliable. And by the way,all those coffee grounds down the drain are a sure fire way to plug the plumbing lines in no time

[@laurierupert2399]

Old Grumpy compost

[@drewwagner4802]

Cool

[@mariai9549]

proof that you can brew coffee with boiling water.

[@donbigger1177]

.... too much hassle for coffee ......

[@xtusvincit5230]

I detect a Chicagoan accent. Maybe Polish.

[@SandfordSmythe]

I'm trying to place it also. Maybe East European Jewish.

[@qbnronin]

Sold! :-)

[@chefpetey]

What a pain in the balls! Enough to make u quit drinking coffee.

[@dwightkey4070]

you think people are gonna do this science experiment BS just for a cup of coffee?? My standard coffee maker will do me just fine

[@carstenjunge1327]

What an awful lot of cleaning for a single pot of coffee.

[@CaesarSalad978]

Brewing coffee with an automatic siphon is so boring. Yes, it's convenient for people that aren't as into coffee as others, but for the huge coffee fans it's boring.

[@gurdyman1]

I find it pleasant to not have to stand and watch a clock anymore, after having used manual brewing for over 30 years.

[@3abasic]

Couldn’t pay me enough to rinse that stupid filter every time. What a process. Not buying this product and not impressed

[@Reubenbenavigdor]

Very poor boring demonstration, would not encourage me to buy this machine.

[@7531monkey]

Whats wrong with a spring? This is a piece of crap.