Making Diacetyl for Movie-Style Popcorn Butter (50,000x STRONGER than REAL BUTTER)

[@LabCoatz_Science]

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[@soundspark]

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[@despectablebosshandlemantle]

Can you turn diacetyl into a skatole? I know it is a really weird request, but please..

[@trevorhaddox6884]

How about I don't want my data scraped by shady VPN companies either.

[@johnathanrichardson]

why would you shill for scam companies? is the money from legitimate businesses that produce real products not enough, or do they just not want to sponsor you?

[@soundspark]

@@johnathanrichardson Maybe he does stuff of questionable legality and needs their services to avoid legal trouble.

[@Chemiolis]

But what about popcorn flavored butter?

[@Weed8Gone]

this

[@anthonyj5633]

Chem battle!

[@RadialMedal]

Corn flavored butter pop?

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

what if we butter in the pop of then do corn flavour 🤤🤤🤤

[@ho0t0w1]

you won't do it

[@wade-potato6200]

Yellow chemistry and tar, I’m surprised that explosions&fire didn’t make a cameo

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

The Chemist in Yellow

[@hamaljay]

He's too busy making tar of his own.

[@LabCoatz_Science]

He's too busy with cubic tar to bother with my 2-dimensional yellow chemistry

[@dasbooterror]

@@LabCoatz_Science CUBIC TAR. Thanks for making me almost ruin my keyboard.

[@dksmith605]

"All yellow chemistry is trash" 😅

[@Psychx_]

Chemists tasting their creations is how scientific progress was made for hundreds of years. It's also one of the reasons why chemists usually didn't die of old age.

[@LabCoatz_Science]

Yeah, I try to keep my exposures to a minimum...like maybe once or twice per year. At least that's less risky that "acceptable" activities like smoking every week!

[@skyrailmaxima]

​@@LabCoatz_Science Get an NMR from local university and you can validate purity and then dont have to worry

[@annother3350]

@@LabCoatz_Science Nobody dies from smnoking every week. every day perhaps

[@jreen58]

​@annother3350 what are you on lol yes they do die, and if not they aren't the rule, they are the exception

[@tomblackburn6781]

That and cancer

[@hukaman88]

I appreciate you telling me not to try and replicate this at home since i barely have the skills to make a baking soda volcano

[@Emu0181]

Used to work at a cinema and the flavoring we added in popping was called "Flavacol" if you ever want to compare to the actual product

[@jpjpjpjpjpjpjpjp]

is that a powder right? What did you use for butter?

[@yalborap]

​@jpjpjpjpjpjpjpjp It's a buttery flavored salt, used in place of either ingredient. A lot of times the liquid "butter" doesn't even have the artificial flavoring, it's often just the same orange oil the popcorn is popped in.

[@stalecheerio1192]

i love videos like this because it commits the cardinal sin of eating in the lab. not only that, but you’re eating what you MAKE in the lab, which is even more insane

[@Psychx_]

"Popcorn maker's lungs" is the layman's term for people who got sick because of an occupational exposure to Diacetyl.

[@theangledsaxon6765]

Popcorn lung

[@brendanshanahan1757]

@@theangledsaxon6765 vaping circa 2015

[@Weed8Gone]

If you want movie theater popcorn that's less expensive, dangerous, and laborious to produce, you can buy the buttery oil and seasoning salt. Just go to a restaurant supply store (like Smart&Final on the west coast) and buy Flavacol popcorn salt and popping oil. The only problem you'll have is that the oils is sold in gallon jugs and the salt in half-gallon cartons. Probably get some friends to go in on it with you and realize that your getting a lifetime supply in one _pop._

[@A.C.Lawrence]

I'd rather just go to the store and buy real butter.

[@sophiophile]

Workers in factories definitely seemed to get worse damage than the vapers, at least when you read the medical literature. Not sure why.

[@mattBLACKpunk]

Probably because they got that good factory air, with some fun suspensions

[@0xszander0]

Because diacetyl was included only in a few poorly made vaping juices in the past. (diacetyl is banned for vape juices) And that was in small amounts. Cigarettes contain naturally a much higher amount of diacetyl than any of those juices did. And popcorn factory workers were exposed to way higher amounts than even cigarettes. This video honestly gives very little actual information on diacetyl.. It is for instance also found naturally in butter, coffee , beer etc. (not just added to margarine)

[@davidestabrook5367]

​@@0xszander0That's the explanation, thanks for answering the question accurately and fully.

[@zer-zd4gc]

He mentions it being found naturally in butter​@@0xszander0

[@TrevinoTrevino-wb4sq]

How about investigating into what exactly 'natural flavors' are. Good luck.

[@Whitewingdevil]

The more I learn about chemistry the more accurate Explosions&Fire's mantra of "Whenever a reaction mixture turns yellow, everything is ruined" seems. Also I know nothing about chemistry, I just find the processes and arcane instruments neat to watch in action :D

[@superme63]

Chef here. I'm not sure about american cinema popcorn, but for us aussies, the best way to get cinema flavoured popcorn is...and i shit you not...just the regular no-name popping corn kernals, and bog standard salted margarine. A flat layer of corn with enough margarine (when melted) to cover about 1/2 to 3/4 of the kernal, and cook uncovered on a medium heat (it should bubble like a freshly poured carbonated drink). That will do 1 really decent, or 2 good servings (depending on hunger) if you use an 18 or 20cm pot. It only takes 3 minutes or so, so just increase the pot diameter if you need to do more serves than that, but keep in mind that A=pi x r^2.

[@spinjector]

That's because raw margarine has no flavor. It's industrially manufactured from neutrally-flavored vegetable oils. Then they add "artificial butter flavor", which is.....diacetyl.

[@khyleebrahh7]

Im from Aus and just throw the pop corn in a microwave press start 2mins and enjoy popcorn with no diacetyl. Tastes like buttery popcorn

[@annother3350]

@@spinjector Hold the Diacetyl - I'm fine with butter

[@THYZOID]

start a vape company. muricans love diacetyl i heard lol

[@LabCoatz_Science]

Hmm, maybe if this whole KZbin thing doesn't work out...but only if I can borrow some of your CS for a prank flavor!

[@MillieMurdur]

I’m pretty sure anything made in the us stopped being made with diacetyl a while ago not 100% sure but I thought it was banned in vapes or some shit

[@davidestabrook5367]

I really appreciate your synthesis videos. I really loved doing it, but had to quit due to depression, but watching you synthesize things, helps me relax.

[@binaryguru]

In Canada we also use this stuff called Flavacol. It's marketed as "butter salt".

[@rexuisus2802]

Betty Botter bought a bit of butter. "But," she said, "the butter's bitter. If I put it in my batter, it will make my batter bitter. But, a bit of better butter will make my batter better." So, she bought a bit of butter, better than her bitter butter.

[@Girvo747]

Bet.

[@j_sum1]

... Then she put it in her batter and the batter was not bitter. So T'was better Betty Botter bought a bit of better butter.

[@jayyydizzzle]

My God that amount of yellow makes Australian shed man shiver

[@tomarmadiyer2698]

Lots of alchemy afoot Alchemy, of course, being yellow chemistry

[@Amateur.Chemistry]

Welcome to the homemade butter perfume club, amazing video!

[@koga7349]

Would be cool to see this added to beta carotene. I think actual popcorn oil is beta carotene, coconut oil, and flavacol

[@3v068]

For anyone wondering about the diacetyl in vape juices, the amount detected was negligible and not anywhere near enough to get "popcorn lung" as it takes an EXTREMELY high concentration to do so. Also your reminder that people hate flavored smoke but love showing off flavored alcohol as if teens dont get drunk off of mad dawg.

[@LiborTinka]

You might be able to prepare the compound by acyloin condensation using methyl- or ethyl acetate and sodium. This should give you an α-hydroxyketone intermediate upon hydrolysis and the diketone upon further oxidation. Starting from butanone, you might be able to reduce it to 2-butanol, dehydrate to 2-butene, dihydroxylate to 2,3-butanediol and finally oxidize the diol to diketone.

[@LabCoatz_Science]

Acyloin condensation was actually the method that failed me before! The product smelled vaguely butter-like, but mostly burnt and unusable.

[@Mrcheesebumble]

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[@twangyyy18888]

Id rate that sponsor segment 1 out of 10 stars. It was right at the beginning, and the spongebob screaming clip instantly made it a lot worse

[@theflannelfisherman8329]

As an aircraft mechanic who regularly works with MEK as a cleaning solvent, I think I’ll stick to butter from now on, thank you very much

[@samuelcastillo5246]

What did you say? Taste every bottle under my dishwasher? Understood🤝🗿

[@sirJaymanz]

I used to woprk in a building with an abandoned movie cinema of 10+ years still smelled of butteredpopcorn.

[@DeggaTheDev]

I miss buttered popcorn in the movie theatre. in Uruguay it's only salty or sweet 😢

[@RabbitsInBlack]

I buy that Theatre Butter Flavoring by the gallon. Also the special Theatre salt also is needs for proper Theatre Popcorn. Unfortunately only comes in industrial but last for a long time.

[@OtherWorldExplorers]

Typically you add something else called Flavacol salt seasoning. It's been my Amazon list for about a couple of months now. 😊

[@makylemur7019]

Checked website for Pro Cure on 12/30/2024. They no longer list sodium nitrite.

[@LabCoatz_Science]

I bought it from here: www.sportsmans.com/fishing-gear-supplies/fish-attractants-bait/pro-cure-sodium-nitrite/p/1111691

[@CryptoTonight9393]

I literally just bought some.

[@sirtaylor2569]

Big Butter does NOT approve

[@jay-5061]

this has mad NileRed energy

[@justinbanks2380]

2:04 😂😂😂😂 love that part from Jurassic Park! Ah ah ah. What's the password?

[@Zenzicubic]

I see you've found diacetyl. I made it years ago, with a made up procedure and plastic tubing distillation thingy. I used isopropyl nitrite as the nitrosating reagent, made from HiMedia sodium nitrite.

[@VarroTigurius-u1f]

I loved the taste of movie butter and used to ask them to put some in the middle of the popcorn and then in the top.. at some point tho I started getting sick every time I went to movies.. about an hour after I get to movies I would start getting sick to my stomach and would have to go to the bathroom to vomit. I quit eating popcorn and the sickness went away.. then I tried a few times with and without butter… not sure what the issue is but now I get violently sick if I get that fake movie butter on my popcorn. I still miss the taste though but it’s been 12 years since I figured this out. I guess it’s not to much an issue anymore since movies are t worth seeing in a theatre much anymore. Btw.. any idea what it is in movie butter that was making me sick?

[@ryanwarner5006]

Your brain.

[@alterablebark54]

I have a movie theater style popcorn maker and I've always put what's labeled coconut oil in it when making popcorn

[@michaelboehme7964]

Lolling at the very beginning. "Picture yourself going to the movies" B roll shows a stage theater which does not show movies

[@goldempizza]

Great video! now i deffinitly need to go buy popcorn thanks

[@WestonNey3000]

I think it’s so funny that you and Nile Red have almost the same cadence in how you speak when explaining, was it on purpose? 😅

[@LabCoatz_Science]

@@WestonNey3000 honestly no, it just kinda happened as I tried to improve my voiceovers lol. Never really thought about it being NileRed-like!

[@WestonNey3000]

@ your voice doesn’t sound similar, but the pauses do! Those pauses before certain phrases were exactly like when Nigel is talking. Have you watched many of his videos?

[@andersjjensen]

I have a friend who moved here from the US who gave me "buttered popcorn"... Yeah, I'mma gon say it out loud: You guys are weird! It doesn't taste the slightest bit like butter, and even if it did, it doesn't belong on popcorn. Just a neutral oil, like coconut oil, to pop them in and salt, thanks :P

[@chihuahuahuahuakya6016]

Why there is a cut at 12:05 when you are picking up the fake butter popcorn

[@seabasscho1030]

he prolly fumbled picking it up

[@MRblazedBEANS]

Ive figured out how to make the best "movie theater" style popcorn. You gotta use coconut oil for popping the corn and must be done on a stove. Also gotta use a popcorn salt its super fine and wont clump, trick is to add the salt into the oil right before adding the corn to pop. Then every single inch of popcorn is covered in salt. Then once popped i use real butter (salted) and add that to the allready pre salted corn. You have to use coconut oil and popcorn salt otherwise the taste wont be right. I hate the taste of fake butter so i have never used it even at the movies. Real butter is just so so superior

[@NeUrOmAnCeRAI]

I can believe it's not butter.

[@igiveupfine]

i'm surprised places didn't come out with "double butter" flavoring, and just increase that concentration to 1/3rd of what you even mixed it at. it wouldn't have cost them anything, and still would have been at tiny levels.

[@ChaosAT]

why not use ghee? Butterpurefat/Butterreinfett?

[@stanbeniers3187]

Very interesting video, I actually made diacetyl roughly 4 years ago using a completely different method. I used a subspecies of Lactococcus lactis to make diacetyl through fermentation of citric acid. The only problem is that it also creates varying other metabolic products such as acetaldehyde, acetoin, 2,3-butanediol and a lot of lactic acid. (Although the change from diacetyl to acetoin is reversible). I didn't do a taste test, but you could probably do it without any issues since no dangerous chemicals are needed for this and because this method is also used in cheese making.

[@theangledsaxon6765]

Acetaldahyde is not something you wanna drink lol

[@misha4422]

We decline to have "butter" added. We don't use butter (real butter) at home, either.

[@burgesj7]

I'm a failed college chemist. Organic Chem made my entire body hurt. I noticed there is a 'triple' bond between N and O but the '3rd' bond has 3 dots. What does that mean?

[@Piocoto123]

This was great!! Would it be possibe to make from oxalic acid and 4 equivalents of MeLi?

[@RosannaPatruno]

For a next vidéo, you should be the first KZbinr to make trifluoronitrosomethane, a gas with a stunning blue color or trichloronitrosoethane a dark blue liquid !

[@lassefiedler3542]

15:02 …so I decided to synthesize unnaturally large amounts of diacetyl

[@kylobear7991]

This reminds me of the Minecraft brewing stand! Very interesting

[@brendenirving7463]

At 7:19 you hypothesize that some sort of aldol condensation may be happening due to the alpha ketone, but i thought Aldol condensations only happen under basic conditions, at this step of reaction, its under acidic

[@CryptoTonight9393]

Thank you so much for the source of sodium nitrite. I had been having a hell of a time trying to find a good place to get some. Now im one sandmeyer reaction away from having some fun 😅

[@PixelPusherGames]

Non related question… I have that microphone too . What you think of it ? You use it for the audio on the whole video ?

[@LabCoatz_Science]

I used to, but recently got a more professional mic that is easier to position. Both work pretty well, I hardly notice the difference!

[@PixelPusherGames]

@ so is that saying it’s decent?

[@rolfathan]

I've been to a couple of abandoned movie theaters. They still smelled like butter.

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

Perfect recipe for me. (pls help butter expensive af, only crap margarine)

[@Axolutl]

I prefer to use a walk to make my popcorn then an air popper. It’s such a good way and it makes it perfectly!

[@michellecullen8911]

This stuff created popcorn lung

[@theta3404]

I'll be calling this Acetoon. You cannot convince me not to.

[@Drjtherrien]

Well this is the first chemistry video that has made me hungry.

[@orbnaes]

Careful I remember a story a few years ago about some guy who had so much microwaved butter popcorn he got some kinda lung disease. I think it was that same substance.

[@carpdog42]

I am fairly amused by this whole thing because I first became aware of Diacetyl is one of the flavors produced by yeast in brewing. It is often (but not always) undesirable and one of the major reasons for keeping brewing temperatures from running too high.

[@BioCybergoth]

Great! Now I'm hungry.

[@LabCoatz_Science]

Big Popcorn wins again.

[@greggleswong]

Ah, the Nilered content I've been craving 😌

[@bhoot1702]

Searched today found a 1 day old video. Nice

[@kevinnixon5688]

So happy to see a source of nitrite that's not restricted 🎉

[@charleshines2142]

You need a noxious gas generator? YOUR CAR is one LOL!

[@justachipofftheiceberg6313]

Next show us how fully synthesis DiacetylMorphine

[@zodd0001]

Diacetyl is also a known phosphors in the proper conditions.

[@ntheory]

Neat! I've wanted to see this. What's the deal with acetoin? The other fake butter ingredient wp says it's used.

[@UrmAchually]

0:48 erm 🤓 as an IUPAC glazer I am here to correct the name of diacetyl to its proper nomenclature of butane-2,3-dione

[@UrmAchually]

Or 2,3-Butadione, whatever floats your boat

[@SkewToob]

Who's gonna tell him about Flavacol?

[@sysierius]

We only have salted or sweet popcorn here

[@ErinAnnnora]

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[@Ring0--]

I will buy a churn a stool milking station and a cow before altering my popcorn flavoring. BTW. NORDVPN is a shitty VPN.

[@KoalaPlus]

Honest question, why is NordVPN a bad VPN?

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@@KoalaPlus limits on the number of devices that can be simultaneously connected and some servers don't support torrenting. You can have way better service for the same price, cheaper even.

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[@CryptoTonight9393]

Mullvad or nothing babyyyyyy

[@joeylawn36111]

Diacetyl is no longer used in flavoring Popcorn in the USA.

[@manw3bttcks]

That's probably why the video title had "Forbidden" in it, as in it's not available anymore.

[@Pi_Cue]

Would someone educate me on why sodium nitrite is under scrutiny?

[@BobaPhettamine]

think it's just the US because of health concerns looks like a lot of people have poisoned themselves with it they don't want civilians getting, it in the UK i can buy a 5kg tub of pure sodium nitrite with ease online

[@LabCoatz_Science]

I actually did a whole video about nitrites, but basically, it became a popular poison among su*cidal people...10X less potent than a true poison like cyanide, but still potent enough to be used. So naturally, companies like Amazon decided they want nothing to do with it.

[@Pi_Cue]

@LabCoatz_Science ahh. Thanks so much for the education! I suspected it had something to do with human ingestion but didn't expect it to be for a final ride. I thought someone had figured out a way to go from sodium nitrite to (md)p2p or something closer to that lane. (Obviously I have no chemistry knowledge) I appreciate the information 👍

[@Tyresio12]

Mmm, someone's watching Amateur Chemistry channel.

[@johnday2917]

I mean, he tells you to go watch their video at the end of his, so it’s not a big secret or anything.

[@incandescentfennec6916]

I refuse to eat microwave popcorn anymore. IMO just popping it myself in a pan is more convenient in every way. Want just a little popcorn? You can do that. Want a bunch? Easy. It takes the same amount of time to make, give or take a minute or two. You can also season it however you want. It’s also way cheaper to just buy the kernels and the oil instead of the microwave variety

[@CarbonTwelve12]

Amazing Video!

[@tomarmadiyer2698]

Movies, i think of the earplugs I'll need next time i go

[@Random_Palmetto]

It’s that powder the shake in with the oil that is where the flavor is

[@oggy2402]

Well I'll be damned, if it isn't the chemical responsible for the "vaping causes popcorn lung" myth

[@oggy2402]

The problem with popcorn lung isn't people vaping diacetyl, there are no real reports of popcorn lung in people who vape. It's only the factory workers who spray diacetyl on butter flavoured popcorn who suffer from popcorn lung, hence the name.

[@charleshines2142]

I should have made a bowl of popcorn to munch on while I watch this

[@emilalmberg1096]

Apparently it's a tradition to taste new substances, that's how xylocaine was discovered! It was nice to see what you look like, you look like me when I was sixteen!

[@alllove1754]

It's been a little while, hope you've had a great Christmas and a kick ass new year❤ now.. fun things: dimethylglioxime has a special place in precious metal refining, notable for palladium and platinum from aqua region (I believe using aqua regia, chloroplatinic and chloropalladic acids, that whole gambit).. and diacetyl... ah yes. Good stuff, literally. And I thought you were going to make tbhq as I quickly scanned through the article you showed in the opening. You've relit a flame for chemistry in my heart. Ice been watching a ton if gardening videos lately, not seeing too much good Chem videos, just drugs and more drugs and those DO make great videos, but these things you're doing now are things we ALL consume, and funnily enough diacetyl IS technically the same opener for the chemical name for heroin lol. Lol bc, we'll, you know.. anyways.. bha looked interesting btw. And since it's possible delightful smelling (at least possibly starting).. with respect to the taboo stuff... I was wondering I'd you could show how to alpha methylate something..? That might be fun ❤have a safe, happy new year.

[@f.n.schlub]

@LabCoatz -- Your misuse of "begs the question" (petito principii) is as wrong as using NACL to denote Cadmium.

[@professorcryogen6419]

2min ad read in a fifteen minute video is steep pal. You get that paper though. Subbed 🙏

[@TheHuntermj]

My second favourite diacetyl compound!

[@CryptoTonight9393]

I had an addiction to that for awhile. If the diaceytl compound is what I think it is.

[@rbtmdl]

I just had an ad interrupt an ad.

[@brunobastos5533]

Butter flavor is banned at EU

[@bryce4359]

Amateur Chemistry did this too

[@Viva-Cristo-Rey-]

Or or or... you could just melt some butter and put it on your popcorn.

[@RadialMedal]

Nile, that you in disguise? I'm only playing, but great video! Definitely earned my Sub.

[@jane5886]

There are some very ✨ fun ✨ reasons you can't get Sodium Nitrate as easily from major vendors. And it's directly related to helium products containing small amounts of CO2 now! :333

[@smartperson1]

Ethanol diacetyl azeotrope? Sounds like butter beer 😁

[@Jawst]

Lol, I just put butter on my popcorn!

[@R-Tex.]

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[@justinbanks2380]

Ooooh ... Tom from Extractions&Fire/Ire is telling me this is gonna go badly as it's yellow! 😂😂😂

[@mikeljbarham9555]

Why would you want to eat chemicals on your food. Just melt real butter.