Making Friends as an Adult (ft. Friendship Expert) | Episode 01

↳In Episode 01, Erin interviews Danielle Bayard Jackson (aka @thefriendshipexpert ) a certified Friendship Coach and Educator (and PR expert, business owner, speaker, AND author!).
➞ In this episode:
0:30 Introduction
2:10 Rapid fire background Q&A
3:25 Why Danielle switched careers
5:11 Being the shy/mean/popular girl in high school
7:03 How Danielle got out of teaching and into coaching
12:50 Is working from home killing our friendships?
16:22 Dunbar's Number
18:00 Making friends as a remote worker (or else you'll get weird)
19:00 Harvard 100-Year Study on Happiness
20:35 What are "quality" friendships?
21:42 Introverts vs. Extroverts
23:10 Female vs. Male Friendships
29:40 How men can make more friends
31:19 The stress of picking bridesmaids & groomsmen
37:05 Types of Loneliness (+ how to get more friends)
39:30 #RealAdvice Time!
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Welcome to No One Knows What They're Doing, a brand new show from Erin McGoff (aka, AdviceWithErin). Tune in as she introduces you to new people, new careers, and new ideas to inspire you to confidently design a life that makes you truly happy. In this show, Erin dives into topics that are top of mind for folks in their 20s and 30s ranging from career advice and financial literacy to relationships and self-esteem. Erin will bring on experts to give advice on questions like, "Should I move to Europe?" and "How do I negotiate my salary?" and "How do I find a work-from-home job that isn't a scam?".
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[@AdviceWithErin]

Episode 01 is here! 🎉 thanks to @DanielleBayardJackson for our insightful conversation. ❤

[@nickpapageorgio4944]

Erin, I absolutely love your channel and appreciate everything you've done for the community, but I felt compelled to provide my honest feedback. I think it was a horrible idea airing this. I suspect 90% or more of your subscribers want what you have, remote work with work life balance and financial freedom. This is why many watch your channel. They want to learn from you to achieve what you have. I feel that you have turned your back on many of your loyal followers with this type of content that embraces office work. We need more people to support your historical support for remote work and work life balance. We don't need any more corporate wankers like this panelist telling us about the "benefits" of office work. The truth is that most of our coworkers rarely care about us and would move on in an instant if we left. If someone feels they need to have a strong social network at work then I feel sorry for them. They need to spend more time with people that actually love them like friends and family. Lastly, I would have appreciated it if the panelist talked about the study confirming that employees who are sick, hospitalized, or dead tend not to be very productive. That's what's happening out there. For many working in an office is very damaging to their mental, financial, and physical health. Thanks for your consideration. P.S. For any people that think I don't have office experience, I do. I'm a Gen X'r who has worked most of their life in an office. Late in life I made the switch to remote work and have seen great improvement in my life.

[@clairehouston5189]

Hi Erin! Excited to give it a listen 😊 I was just wondering when is it going to be released on Spotify? Currently it's showing only the introduction and not this episode yet. Thanks!

[@AdviceWithErin]

@@clairehouston5189yay! 🎉 Spotify & Apple syndication will be a few days delayed-but this episode is on Spotify now! ❤

[@meiling15]

“If I don’t get social, I get weird” 😂 that is a very valid point. I started working hybrids since Covid and I do get very comfortable at home, however, it is easy to forget how extremely important being in the office in person and interacting with people outside of our team really is. Thank you so much for your video. It’s a great reminder.

[@SummerSun-sg3wf]

I've always been weird so its circular. I treasured my friends and later figured I'm better off without them. I'm a hermit and happy.

[@ceterisparibus8966]

@@SummerSun-sg3wf ''I treasured my friends and later figured I'm better off without them.'' But Danielle says that it is the number one factor for a fulfilled life.

[@Axlette83]

Building friendships as an adult is not talked about enough, as an introvert, I appreciate this

[@Sanvalho]

8:01 "we're all trying to figure out how to navigate friendships" it's so comforting to hear!

[@jennifergoldberg7333]

I think it’s so important that you brought up the fact that not every friend needs to be a best friend. Sometimes we have such a strong desire to get closer with people, but we need our fun-time friends just as much as we need our deep-talk friends!

[@alexandra43307]

I love how she explained that it doesn't matter if you are an introvert or an extrovert, we all need quality people. Growing up, as an introvert I used to feel a bit embarrassed that I didn't know lots of people, specially compared to acquaintances who had lots of followers or followed many people. As I grew up, I would tell myself that it didn't matter because I had my handful of beautiful meaningful relationships. It was interesting to hear in the way it was formulated. The difference between extroverts and introverts is the fact that extroverts just enjoy more social time.

[@Barbara-ko3ru]

This part blew my mind - Our brains can only maintain 150 social connections, we only have the capacity for 3-5 ultra close, but we also need ALL the rings of connections such as fringe friends. - This whole part changed my mindset on friendship. 🤯💡💚💯

[@Asifnawaz108]

Would u like to expand your friend circle, genuine friend I mean

[@theultimatewazum]

Having friends as an adult is pursuing what my inner child always wanted to do but was afraid of being judged, and meeting people with the same experience can be life changing

[@milesonhope]

As a self-proclaimed introvert and homebody, I feel healthfully challenged to broaden how I approach social connections. Friendships in your early 30’s feels so hard and next to impossible, I will be more intentional this year and try to open up again. Sending love from Arizona ♥️🌵

[@Asifnawaz108]

Out of 10 how introvert are u?

[@GrandmaMiMZiSays]

@milesonhope. - I have had 1 singular Friend since I was 5, At this point we've known each other for well over 55 years. My babygirl is 40, with kids of her own and for as long as I can remember I have struggled with making friends. I am an to my core an introvert and I didn't know this for a long time, I'm an introvert WITH people skills. - I'm capable of making friends with people I believe At the beginning to be friend-able, but there's something that needs to be within them to stay friends. It's not about being picky or finding fault, for me it's about actually understanding what being a friend means and demonstrating this in action. I too have been trying to go outside of my immediate comfort zone. Do what you need to do for yourself and have your acceptance for friends be meaningful because you are like the 5 people you hang around the most. Friends influence, Let that influence be from those who have goodness for you in their hearts and minds. Just a little Granny wisdom...

[@GrandmaMiMZiSays]

@asifnawaz108 - I know you are asking OP, - for me, I'd say 20. - most people don't completely understand the difference between introvert and extrovert, and there's the 3rd which is a combination of - an extrovert feeeeeels, and needs, desires and is energized by the energy of being around others, Are fueled by being around a lot of people, large or small groups, on a regular basis, and outwardly seem to be the life of the party. introverts are more drawn to solitude because they are drained of THEIR energy being around a lot of people or in large groups. it's not just a sense of shyness. An introvert can be there for a little bit but would need a nap, or At the least a moment of peace and quiet. - for me, it's like the sensation of trying to keep standing and moving forward through an intense wind storm, it can feel very much like a steamroller just ran over me. there's days where even the slightest sound is enough to do Me in. I don't do well when there's a lot of ongoing loudness - day's where there's a lot of emergency vehicles, or a greater than normal of people activities going by - such as extra traffic - conventions or giant rewards ceremony's. - there's also the common misconception that an introvert doesn't want to be social, we do, we want the opportunity to be, we want the option to be, the invite to and for to be, and we need the ability At the moment to say no. I hope this helps your understanding and answers your questions. 🤗💜

[@Vinduri]

I like that your content is focussed not only on carreer advice but also in wellness. It is a good reminder that we are human and need human connection. Thank you.

[@WonderV76]

Saving this to listen to again. I just moved to a new city and also work independently and KNOW that my sudden lack of circles is affecting my mental health. Thank you both so much!

[@hannahv5234]

I love that Danielle was a teacher (like me!) but her career didn’t stop there! Gives me hope for other career possibilities. ❤

[@lillianb.buonocore3853]

I loved the "I Am" statements to recognize where you might be missing community. There are so many parts of ourselves that deserve to be seen and validated and cared for. Thank you for the amazing advice!

[@taraspeak3590]

The advice for what I identify as and figuring out where relationally I'm lacking in those areas is completely changing my perspective on how to tackle this loneliness problem. Also the advice for how to support men in my life looking for friendships, was very enlightening. Loved this episode and I'm excited for more!

[@mindtheprivacy]

Her voice is gorgeous!

[@AdviceWithErin]

Right!?

[@sanoraabidkhozhayeva8475]

Wow, that's extremely useful, thank you! I'm 31 years old and just lately realized that I suffer of not having meaningful relationships with other people. I became a part of a club. That's increased significantly the level of my satisfaction with my life and with what I'm doing. Thank you again for having this episode!

[@TomDierenfeld]

The point about the different circles of friendships is so important. Imagine telling your colleague at the coffee machine every little detail about your life and listen about theirs. My brain would be soup before the first meeting. But that quick chat about favourite coffee brewing techniques really lightens both our moods and helps me through my day

[@michaelkowalski5314]

Erin, your content is so genuine and wholesome. Excited for this new series

[@GustavoTovarheraldgustav]

Thank you so much for opening this new series Erin! Keep rocking!

[@TeclaTorta]

This was sooo good! It felt like watching 2 good friends have a talk. Danielle is such a good person for this, I feel like she has ability to make everyone feel comfortable when talking to her

[@user-yw4gz8lq6z]

I loved this interview - it was a little longer than what I normally watch on KZbin and I was really glad I stuck with it and watched the whole thing! Lots of great information! I'm looking forward to future episodes 😁

[@Asili089]

It’s so great that you talk about a honestly pretty unknown yet important topic.

[@daniellewills8291]

Omg, love both of these creators. They help me feel more confident as a new adult. Can’t wait for more!

[@jenniferbikcen4285]

This is amazing information and perspectives. I love watching your reels and this took it to a whole other level. I can't wait for the next episode!

[@tina.veberg]

Thank you so much for this episode ❤ It's so true, that different friendships give value to different aspects of your own personality, and not every friend has to be a best friend. Erin, everything you touch turns to gold! You have a new subscriber and I can't wait for the next episode. You've got this!

[@brittmcgowan]

I’ve been WAITING for this Erin!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@djhue2201]

Love this episode! I learned sm while being entertained…congrats on the launch of the new show!!! 🎉

[@sandrastanojevic2581]

The first episode is awesomeee! Can't wait until the next one! 🍀

[@ragazzacanadese]

Love everything, everything, everything about this and this series and Erin!

[@isabellesais2604]

you are my favorite online person at the moment! so excited for what is to come in your show. all the success and congrats on the ep, super interesting!

[@arelialvarado5218]

So informative and entertaining, the time flew while watching it, looking forward to upcoming episodes! Thank you for this!

[@lorenadan6917]

It’s always a delight to listen to you!❤

[@dariapril]

That’s such an inspiring interview, definitely saving it to rewatch later!

[@rachanagollapudi1843]

So excited for this series! Love your work:)

[@Ecollis241]

So excited to see you taking on this new project! Looking forward to watching episodes as they roll out!

[@sabrinagiampaolo372]

Congrats Erin on your 1st episode!❤🎉 Looking forward to the next ones 🙌

[@jackferreira669]

I love how you brought up friendship hierarchy. I’ve personally seen so many changes over time. Truths, lies, people leaving, people entering. It can hurt, but it can also make you a stronger person.

[@sophie.doph0522]

I’ve been loving your content ever since I first came across it! As someone who is currently on the job hunt, your advice has really been useful and I just want to say thank you for doing this! ❤

[@kavingadevindi3634]

Wow. This was such an informative and comforting session! I'm so excited for upcoming episodes Erin❤

[@annikaeliza3314]

I loved this! Can’t wait for more episodes!!

[@parirokhafzali4335]

What an AWESOME first episode! Excited about the great advice shared through interesting conversation :)

[@mariss1480]

So good and important topic! Wonderful first episode, looking already the second one! :)

[@Melao3338]

This is the content that you didn't know you needed! Thank you! ❤

[@lovelygirlsta1]

I relate 100% this is so resourceful! Thanks again Erin! I’m getting a lot of help watching your videos.

[@CAROLINAVARGAS12]

ok, I have to say I was waiting a looongg time to somebody came with an episode like this, love it!!

[@ningzenbee]

This interview was amazing! Eagerly awaiting future episodes!

[@ibolyacs.]

Great that you mention we need more connections. I like to help/talk to people in shops, even if it seems insignificant, it might make someone's day or just smile, doesn't matter. Every little help, costs nothing :)

[@MrO1iver]

So happy to see this new material coming out! I can tell from the first seconds this is just what so many people need 💯 Will make sure to follow every episode 🌟

[@toasted-bagel]

Hi Erin! This was really helpful. So excited for future episodes :)

[@xoaster8]

Looking forward to more of this series! Great first ep and first guest 😊

[@saraviramontes9130]

A great topic for the first episode already! I’m looking forward to the rest of the episodes.

[@shckwave]

This is an amazing new initiative! Congrats Erin! 😊

[@marianapagan7067]

Thank you for the advise Erin! Loved the episode!

[@cucurevictamara87]

I agree so much with the study that the quality of your social network is the best prerequisite for having a healthy and happy life. Great first episode Erin!

[@marilia2906]

Erin, I love your content - no matter what topic! This was a great episode!

[@honeydhanecha4874]

This is the kind of show I didn't know I needed!! 🤩🤩 Keep going strong, Erin! Looking forward to more of such wholesome conversations and episodes! ❤️🌸

[@user-hl8vq1rc4e]

Such a great talk! Please continue with the format!

[@LucasMartins-lm1ey]

I loved the topic! Keep it going Erin, you got this!

[@Cmca016]

Great work Erin! Really interesting topic for the first episode, I’m looking forward to the next one!!

[@vladimirjanout6951]

This is an amazing show you are creating here Erin :) I hope there are much more episodes to come!

[@Michellecsv]

Mind blowing 🤯 Thanks Erin and Danielle for this episode, not so many people are talking about this but I'm sure more people than we think (including myself) are going through different relationships situations that we don't know how to navigate, whether we have these connections or don’t even know how to build them. I definitely needed to hear more about this!

[@jessicakimmes1355]

Looking forward to following episodes!!

[@mckaymiller4292]

I desperately needed this. You could not have chosen a better topic for your first video of the series Erin! Ever since the start of covid when my schooling when all online and all my college friends moved away, I've basically been living like a hermit. It's so hard for me to make plans with anyone but my husband and I literally have no ways to meet people. This video gave me lots to think about and is a good first step to helping myself become the social person I used to be.

[@user-mc3np5vo4j]

This is such a valuable topic and I loved how chill and authentic the conversation feels!

[@SohilGrandhi]

You are doing a great job, Erin! Keep up the great work❤

[@lraethrifts]

This episode was SOOOO good and I’m so excited for more!!! 🫶🥹

[@MayaBrant]

Congrats with your first episode!!!🎉🤍⛳️ Rock it ⚔️🤩

[@user-hl8vq1rc4e]

Such great talk! Please continue with this format!

[@KatieDemi]

Loved this episode, shared it with my friends 😊

[@christinabasketaki2385]

Thank you Erin for starting this new series of Videos!

[@nikkibourland5702]

Congratulations on Episode 1! What a dynamic frist guest. Thank you for shaing Danielle and her insights with us!

[@yesicaevertz6143]

Thank you so much Erin for this new series, love it!

[@ruthiemenaker5421]

This episode is great! Can’t wait for more.

[@ariet6672]

Putting my hat in the ring! Congrats on the first EP :)

[@rebeccadejesus1235]

Erin did it again ! Can’t wait for more content, feeling excited 💃💃

[@anastasiia5642]

Absolutely love it! And I was so intrigued about the podcast - I am also big on idea that your social network contributes a lot to your success and happiness in life! Thank you Erin for your wonderful work and I am excited to see where you go with podcasts! So far amazing format ❤

[@InTheWildWithYou]

Great episode, proud of you. You’re a very hard worker. Take care!

[@cristina08888]

Loving this new series! ❤ Also what a great guest speaker ❤

[@emmawehweh6800]

This is so GOOD!! I am here for it.

[@marinaortegacordovilla3996]

Love to see you on more long-form content format lately too, Erin! 🧡

[@emilysandford2771]

This is such a great episode! I am currently learning the lesson of tapping into my community and expressing my need(s). I have been surprised and in awe of all the connections I've made so far and opportunities ♥

[@storiesfromthecity]

Love it! So great episode, I’m waiting for more with the notebook full of notes ❤

[@Willo1991]

Really intersting topic and great first episode! Looking forward to the next one :)

[@HeIsLove]

Insightful and impactful. Thank you both.

[@Ali-Schreck.]

Excited for more of these!

[@user-jx4ik7tf1w]

Congrats Erin! Wonderful format, questions, flow of conversation, and absolutely awesome first guest. Can't wait to see more episodes on different topics!!

[@ri_0fSunshine]

I have struggled with maintaining genuine friendships in my teens and twenties - I know that connections come and go but sometimes it's so awkward and hurtful to let friendships go, even if they bring more frustration than enjoyment. Thanks for creating this episode ❤

[@tarsokeletzi6544]

Erin, thank you for everything you do! It is highly appreciated ❤

[@linabear55]

So many good nuggets from this episode, love it!

[@kyliewilliams194]

Absolutely loved this video! Erin, you are such an inspiration. Thank you for being such a supportive friend on everyone’s journey to happiness and fulfillment.❤

[@MurielNobleBianchi-qz3xt]

Thank you for a great episode! I appreciate your levity and authenticity! 💕

[@Peace4Love4Smile]

Quality of any relationship is sooo important whether it's family or significant other. For friendship, it's so tricky because unlike family or significant other, you either really know your friends deeply or on surface level/acquaintance status. I truly believe that the quality of friendship can determine whether person is happy or not since it takes both side to reach out and genuinely get to know each other. Which is hard to do nowadays but kudos to people who really are putting themselves out there.

[@jadziaengle]

Loving this new form of content from you

[@imanejalal5074]

Exciteeeed for episode 2, keep going!!!

[@harmony_di]

Fantastic and warm atmosphere in the episode!😍

[@mirandagalussio262]

Hi Erin!! Love your content, it helped sooo much ❤❤❤

[@Aaron-xk4dp]

This was so eye opening - looking forward to the more episodes ❤️ You got this!

[@alicevicars6312]

Thank you so much for the meaningful episode today! And I really treasure this opportunity to have such a powerful speaker on your episode with you, who are an icon as well!! 🎊🥳

[@divyaramos]

Great first episode! So many amazing nuggets of wisdom.

[@bridgetmcgrath54]

This is so comforting to hear, I've always felt slightly weird that I find it super hard developing friendships as an adult! Brilliant discussion 👏