I’m here for the Eau-de-Goat. Round-bottom flask, you make my rockin’ world go ‘round!! 🎵🎶
@charybdis16180332 жыл бұрын
I want the whole parody song at some point now.
@Neuvimain242 жыл бұрын
@@charybdis1618033 same
@robmckennie42038 жыл бұрын
My suggestion for merch would be to do what Ben on Applied Science did. Rather than sell clothing with his logo, he sells iron-on patches. That way, anyone can have the logo on any item they like, even clothes they already own, and I expect they'd be cheaper to boot.
@kaischapen35523 жыл бұрын
While being a chemistry student years ago, I did numerous Grignard reactions. Mostly to create deuterium labelled alcohols and acid. I needed to heat the flasks beforehand to get out the water, flush with nitrogen and use only super dried solvents. With all these precautions you should be able to get yields of about 80% . When hydrolizing the Grignard reactand with water, an alcohol is formed, in your case it could have been 1-pentanol as the side product... So, with your faster approach the yield is okay, I would think. Big fan of your experiments, BTW. Keep it up!
@MrZyphose9 күн бұрын
It really smells like the Panda enclosure at the San Diego zoo.. Pretty foul.
@Rubikorigami7 жыл бұрын
2:10 "slight orange color" *flask proceeds to go oranger that mathematically orangeable*
@sugarbooty6 жыл бұрын
Aman Jaiswar So is yours, and mine
@beanlets6 жыл бұрын
🍶
@sendark0016 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha 🤣
@ARSZLB6 жыл бұрын
Lou Bernabeu ...what?
@spiderdude20995 жыл бұрын
Lou Bernabeu you think that's orange, you should see potassium dichromate, it's ridiculously orange almost neon.
@marksmod7 жыл бұрын
the essence of the goat
@106640guy4 жыл бұрын
The purest of nectars.
@SunsetEnvy4 жыл бұрын
Satan's perfume
@JGscienceGaming4 жыл бұрын
I love this 😅😂
@definitelynotyuribezmenov76114 жыл бұрын
Greatest Of All Time
@aetheralmeowstic23924 жыл бұрын
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
@TheKnaeckebrot8 жыл бұрын
our chemistry-prof always said with enough love, we'll eventually start our grignards :D (aka. if nothing happens, heating the flask with our hands etc.)
@nat72782 жыл бұрын
Imma be honest with you Nile, I really dont care about chemistry. At least I never did in school. Even though I still have zero passion for it, your straightforward, can do, everything is possible attitude realliy is reassuring. Especially in times of stress or overwhelm like it has been lately. I just play your videos in the background and your voice gives me hope and comfort. Thank you. Hard to describe how much this means to me right now.
@spiderdude20994 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: Absolutely NEVER add all your alkyl halide if the gringnard rxn hasn’t started yet. Not just because you don’t want a thermal runaway, but because you can get undesired side reactions that destroy your Grignard reagent before it can react. Until you see the initiation of your rxn, only add 10-30% of your alkyl halide solution
@kafou75058 жыл бұрын
i think that the low yield you obtained is mainly due to Wurtz coupling side reaction. to avoid it you shoud not pour all the halide even if the Grignard synthesis does not start well, but you should try to start it with max one fith of your halide, and then adding the rest dropwise. also, overheating of the solution also favors thé Wurtz coupling. still, your are doing an incredible job without a decent fumehood !
@nemeanlyan79188 жыл бұрын
I will buy the hell out of beakers and a lab coat. No, really. You are one of the few content creators who I would gladly support by buying merchandise. (Plus I'd get to show off my awesome beakers and labcoat)
@Boogie_the_cat2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with ya. Most KZbin merch I've seen is really "meh" and overpriced at that. I know Nilered would give us quality equipment that we would be proud of.
@ARSZLB6 жыл бұрын
8:50 “in the end, i just decided to make hexanoic acid, which i thought could be cool because it’s DANK”
@potatopotato91314 жыл бұрын
Nah he says stank but still lol
@warrentb18 жыл бұрын
How about battery related chemistry? Pretty important these days and there are plenty of weird ones (flow batteries, molten salt, air batteries etc)
@Agustx08 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see chemistry related to batteries.
@Agustx07 жыл бұрын
conduit122 Oops, sorry.
@zenoist23997 жыл бұрын
I'd like that too. There is still a lot to discover with batteries I reckon.
@BRUTALLEGENDD5 жыл бұрын
How about A-SALT-N-BATTERY :P
@aterack8334 жыл бұрын
I wanna see someone make a [moderately comparable to modern lithium batteries] battery in the method of these videos, where they compare it to an existing cell and measure the performance of both and then take the existing one apart and measure the dimensions compared to theirs, see how efficient they can get with a shop lab type setup, basically just a step or two above backyard science, and if they compare the costs of the two it would be even cooler
@sixstringedthing3 жыл бұрын
Me, browsing NileRed content for stuff I haven't watched yet, spotting this thumbnail: "That one. That's what I was looking for".
@rochellekesselring48659 ай бұрын
Lol same 😂
@NileRed8 жыл бұрын
Forgot to say to follow my twitter! twitter.com/NileRed2
@tesseract3428 жыл бұрын
i would be really amazing if you made some nilered merch, love your videos keep it up
@sunglow98356 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nile for all of your great videos. I once didnt like anything about chemistry or biology, I thought it was complicated and weird, but you've shown me that chemistry is a vast land of exciting reactions. They way one can manipulate a substance to get a single other substance is just mind blowing. So keep up the great work. =)
@elijahmoore98862 жыл бұрын
i love falling asleep to your videos but the background is white and so bright
@gavinjenkins8997 жыл бұрын
How many goatsworth is that yield though?
@tomlobur1116 жыл бұрын
Gavin Jenkins about 3 bags full
@elephystry5 жыл бұрын
How many horsepower was that hot plate?
@tonyellen_5 жыл бұрын
@@tomlobur111 Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
@marialiyubman5 жыл бұрын
I’ve herd that before.
@GodlikeIridium4 жыл бұрын
3 women exchanged to goats in saudi arabia.
@StephenGillie4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The names are descriptive in very different ways. Caproic refers to the smell ("Caper" is Latin for Goat, so it's goat-like), while Hexanoic refers to the 6-carbon structure, and its similarity to hexane (which is sometimes found in gasoline).
@supersmashsam8 жыл бұрын
Here is an easy procedure to pre-activate magnesium turnings for grignard reactions that has always worked very well for me: - In a Buchner funnel or a fritted glass funnel + vacuum flask, add a excess amount of magnesium turnings. - in 4 different containers, set aside enough of each liquid to cover up your turnings : 1M HCl, demineralised water, methanol or ethanol, diethyl ether. - Add the 1M HCl on top of your turnings, a vigourous production of hydrogen gaz will occur. - After a few seconds, quickly apply vacuum to remove the HCl solution. - Quickly rince off your turning by adding the demineralised water, then applying vacuum again removing most of the liquid. Proceed the same way again using methanol/ethanol, then the diethyl ether. The magnesium turnings you get that way shoud be pretty much dry and oxide free at that point. Use them immediately for best result. No further activation using iodine, dibromoethane, or grinding should be required if your conditions are anhydrous enough. This procedure can be used with old tarnished turnings as well.
@NileRed8 жыл бұрын
That is very interesting. Thanks!
@TheKnaeckebrot8 жыл бұрын
also, you should only add more from the addition funnel when you know the reaction started ... i knew many cases in which impatient students killed their grignard by adding to much, when things havent heated up properly :D
@RemoveChink5 жыл бұрын
I hate cleaning grignard experiments...
@jacks68603 жыл бұрын
The ether in this video was inhaled directly before Nile came up with the idea to turn gloves into soda.
@markhoutman77217 жыл бұрын
I was synthesizing benzoic acid the same way lately and had the same problem: my phenyl bromide wasn't reacting with the magnesium. What worked for me was adding the iodine in a later stage. My labjournal: ... When a quarter of the phenyl bromide was addes and wasn't reacting with the magnesium, stirring was stopped. An iodine crystal was added and after a couple of minutes the reaction started. Addition and stirring continued. ... I had to do Grignards for a long time and this was one of my observations. It also looks nice since the magnesium starts jumping a bit in the ether. Hope this might be useful in the future. A fellow chemist
@GodlikeIridium Жыл бұрын
10:00 best misuse of a volumetric pipette I've ever seen 😂
@comando19113 жыл бұрын
"Instead of scrapping everything, I just changed what I was making".... that's what I say in my lab everyday
@bradtarratt69315 ай бұрын
NileRed: Since, as I understand it, caproic acid is what causes goat milk to taste and/or smell goaty, do you have any ideas on a way to process goat milk that possibly converts the caproic acid into something you can precipitate out without making the milk otherwise curdle?
@CarterColeisInfamous8 жыл бұрын
Put together a lab glass starter kit
@fredwells74038 жыл бұрын
Carter Cole glassware is not cheap
@CriticalTechReviews6 жыл бұрын
Exactly, which is why one would appreciate getting everything they'd need all at once, instead of trying to build a kit and maybe not doing the best job. This guy knows how to chemistry, he should pick the pieces.
@jojolafrite905 жыл бұрын
Yeah, for example, what is needed for making methamphetamine... I mean, my science project.
@noname-80lbs2 жыл бұрын
GOAT......greatest of all time ...reagent?
@Matt.m63 жыл бұрын
Looks like forbidden tea
@slin19908 жыл бұрын
I know there are as many opinions on how to start a Grignard out there as there are chemist, but my most sucessful initiations were as follows: Just overlay the Mg turnings with Et2O. Add a few mL of your electrophile (pure, no solvent) WITHOUT stirring. Heat the reactions mixture, I prefer a heatgun to the heat it at the spot where the electrophile was added. As soon as the reaction becomes milky white, dilute the residual electrophile in the addition funnel and off you go. Maybe this is helpful to some of you :) And as always great video Nile, reminded me of my undergraduate years as my first grignard also was for the formation of a caboxylic acid....boring benzoic acid though :D
@aterack8334 жыл бұрын
Now I need a playlist that’s each of your videos and right after each Nile red video, the Nile blue video of the cleanup reactions (they aren’t as good without seeing the initial reaction and knowing the steps of that, it’s less sensical without it, I almost don’t even wanna watch a playlist of just the red videos just to not spoil the blue videos, at least at the rate I’m watching them I can forget them easily enough
@MrZyphose9 күн бұрын
Patches would be pretty bad ass but I enjoy the reaction socks. Different clothes that had a working light show displaying multiple reactions.
@olivialambert41245 жыл бұрын
As a Physicist I'm a big fan of dry ice. Its like the poor mans liquid nitrogen, less fun, less cold, but still generally similar benefits. They both turn straight to gas rapidly and float on a cushion of air making them pretty fun to play with. They can both freeze objects which are fun to shatter (liquid nitrogen can splash from vigorous boiling and be dangerous though). They can both be held, and doing it wrong can maim you. And they're both great for throwing around the lab because they leave no mess and don't need a clean up. Any excuse to use either should be taken, if only to kick around and play football with (as it glides across the floor almost frictionless).
@qazsertyer8 жыл бұрын
I made caproic acid once using malonic synthesis. Could be interesting to see.
@ARVash8 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you stuck with it, great video
@martinmiglio8 жыл бұрын
I think a tee shirt with your channel logo would look pretty cool, and for the beakers and lab coats, I think your channel logo would do fine also
@SeabornNomad Жыл бұрын
"I thought would be cool because it stank" 🤣
@BGrab8 жыл бұрын
If somebody is wondering how to calculate boiling points under different pressures, look into the barometric formulas and the Clausius-Clapeyron-Equation :)
@theSILKROAD2108 жыл бұрын
Thank you^^
@supersmashsam8 жыл бұрын
I recommend using a nomogram as a quick and easy way to do conversion. Sigma Aldrich got an interactive one on their website ! www.sigmaaldrich.com/chemistry/solvents/learning-center/nomograph.html
@elephystry7 жыл бұрын
B. Grab that is brilliant
@elephystry7 жыл бұрын
B. Grab that is brilliant
@decepticonne7 жыл бұрын
The major loss is probably not just from water, but also from the atmosphere and most importantly ; from how and in which order you added the reagents. Putting all of the brominated stuff before the first reaction even started, and the only adding the CO2 after all of the possible Grignard reagent was produced : you're gonna end up with a whole lotta side-products.
@douro207 жыл бұрын
In a research lab environment the reagent synthesis would had been carried out on a Schlenk line with dry nitrogen.
@alexanderofrhodes96225 жыл бұрын
Essence of goat you say? {ALCHEMU INTENSIFE}
@bcubed726 жыл бұрын
You had me at "goat-like."
@lecringeyay31252 жыл бұрын
I seen the thumbnail. I wanna know how to make homemade goat scent.
@admiralpercy8 жыл бұрын
YOU PRONOUNCE SIEVE RIGHT I'M SO HAPPY
@rajshreeK18 жыл бұрын
Legend has it if you comment early, Nile red replies.
@cobaltmn57167 жыл бұрын
As a guy who's favorite mammal is the goat I had to watch this.
@MegaMike3278 жыл бұрын
This guy is a guy to have when the world changes.
@helldad46897 жыл бұрын
Get every kind of alcohol you can and do a whole bunch of esterifications. Maybe you could even just do a one pot esterification with all the alcohols mixed together and see how it comes out smelling. You could put small amounts of the final product on strips of paper and sell it to your Patreon supporters, like NileRed cologne samples.
@TheHikeChoseMe4 жыл бұрын
ahh nucleophile and electrophile the love story of the ages
@ashe1.0706 ай бұрын
Ethyl hexanoate is one of my favorite chemicals to make; it has a wonderful pineapple smell.
@MPIronmanJC6 жыл бұрын
Caproic and Buytric acid are naturally present in dunder, or the probiotic element used in fermenting and distilling Jamaican rum! Please try it!
@excuseyou71984 жыл бұрын
This method is too complicated. I would’ve just squeezed some goats and collect the acid.
@lecringeyay31252 жыл бұрын
Yeah same when he made cadaverine Just juice some corpses
@Dahb1GOAT3 жыл бұрын
Put it on. Smell like the goat. Goat-tra-band coming soon to stores near you.
@knightmarex136 жыл бұрын
Used in perfume industry....having flashbacks to when we made crude perfume in highschool chemistry. None of it smelt pleasant
@markhoutman77218 жыл бұрын
It could be nice to convert the hexanoic acid into hexanoyl chloride or bromide. And as an added bonus, when doing an esterification (under dry conditions) you should get a better yield than doing the standard Fisher-esterification with an alcohol and a carboxylic acid.
@float_rock8 жыл бұрын
Do you think your reduced yield could be from the reaction of the grignard reagent with oxygen? I didn't notice any steps you may have taken to exclude oxygen from your reaction mixture.
@DanDart8 жыл бұрын
Yessss finally you said "sieves" as expected xD
@emilyvanmoslfak22957 жыл бұрын
In the booklet of Slipknot's 3rd album Iowa is a page that's just black with a silver dot and it's said that it smells like goat.
@starlight46494 жыл бұрын
Goat juice by Calvin klein.
@nerfinator67 жыл бұрын
Essence of Goat
@jamieklinder5202 жыл бұрын
8:56 because it STANK
@montsaintleondr74918 жыл бұрын
How about making 3-methylindole? Or just something mercaptane-like? ;) btw if you added some sulphur, you could obtain something even more smelly! Personally, I would add selenium!
@NileRed8 жыл бұрын
I made 3-methylindole before. It wasn't able to really purify it, but it worked. Made my work area smell like a dirty barn for a while
@fano725 жыл бұрын
Delicious reaction. What about making a pentyl ether an check how it smells?
@codeartha8 жыл бұрын
Oh I'd love nile red branded glassware! But I gave no idea where you'd get custom printed glass that resist lab use.
@elmaleante4208 жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome but it would be nice if you added an indicator of exactly how much you fast forward something when you actually do 😬
@NileRed8 жыл бұрын
I usually do it when it is important. If i am just pouring stuff, I tend not to. For actual reactions or crystalizations, I keep it in real time
@aterack8334 жыл бұрын
@@NileRed we all love that you keep it real
@1HeartCell8 жыл бұрын
Nile Red Labcoats? Booh yeah! Make sure you can access them in europe :P
@casualmtg66758 жыл бұрын
nile ur videos are great keep them up , I just have one suggestion. ....dont have urself on cameras.......uve seen the comments in the list I imagine
@NileRed8 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@casualmtg66758 жыл бұрын
a few people on it say things inappropriate bc they think ur cute lmao
@NileRed8 жыл бұрын
haha, I took that person's comment down. It was a little bit excessive to say the least :p
@casualmtg66758 жыл бұрын
no kidding it was awful
@mannys91308 жыл бұрын
I suggest the opposite. I liked the Bromine face reveal. Besides, you can't get any better than cute science nerds. Top shelf kinda guys.
@codexnecro39178 жыл бұрын
Aww man I hate the smell of pure butyric acid.
@crtfit97928 жыл бұрын
Love this channel
@NileRed8 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you here!
@ATLTraveler3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I perform what's known as the Arnold Palmer reaction and I react lemonadeythl with iced teaoxide, yeah I know I'm a chemist.
@fano724 жыл бұрын
I would make natrium caprate salt, dry it and set the goat free by mixing with h2so4. without the ether you can make an easier destillation.
@THErcbomber8 жыл бұрын
I would love some nile red branded stuff. College makes it hard to motivate donating money but i could convince my self if there was a cool lab coat in it. I need to retire my blue one soon and p-o-chem is starting soon
@johnhavel7685Ай бұрын
Nice we did a grignard reaction back when I took organic chem lab in college though I can’t remember what we made. That was a fun class though organic chemistry lecture was the hardest class I think I took back then and the professor really kinda sucked at teaching. I think the average on the first exam was like 30% so yeah it was pretty bad lol
@leonidalekseyev38096 жыл бұрын
You might add sulphur to grignard next time to make an even stinkier compound lol
@mikodrzewo61428 жыл бұрын
Awesome video , Nile red
@Boogie_the_cat2 жыл бұрын
I liked this video but was disappointed that you didn't include any footage of you smelling the final result.
@rinconcurioso8 жыл бұрын
I heard of a series of Ionic Liquids based on choline and carboxylic acids. Perhaps you can try to make cholinium hexanoate.
@mattibboss8 жыл бұрын
nile red beakers!?!!?!?!?! i hope you ship to Germany :) and customers don't ripp me off....
5 жыл бұрын
Get me some of those goat-odor perfuemes.
@aterack8334 жыл бұрын
Is that cute fluffer a fox or wolf?
4 жыл бұрын
@@aterack833 fox
@1337fraggzb00N3 жыл бұрын
Finally I know how to make goatwater.
@Zuhaibashraf8 жыл бұрын
Why i am attracted to this channel i hate chemistry in high school still dont like chemistry (i find piece of satisfaction and peace)
@NileRed8 жыл бұрын
I don't know! It's a mystery
@Zuhaibashraf8 жыл бұрын
thanks for replying huge fan of your videos even tho i dont understand so many of your experiments but i love watching em . Still Why ?
@tsingtak6423 жыл бұрын
you need to dry diethyl ether over sodium with benzophenone as indicator. There may be plenty of water present in diethyl ether..
@Anonymous_404_Not_Found8 жыл бұрын
You should try synthesizing a halohydrin and use it to make an epoxide, there are a lot of theoretical videos on youtube about it, but none that I know of where the reaction is actually performed. Would be very interesting to see in my opinion, especially since most amateur chemists can't synthesize epoxides the traditional route as they don't have access to peroxy acids.
@Anonymous_404_Not_Found8 жыл бұрын
john black You cant just drop benzoic acid into 2% hydrogen peroxide and expect good yields, on top of the fact that your product would be contaminated with benzoic acid that was left unreacted. And the average amateur chemist doesnt own a vacuum pump capable of distilling hydrogen peroxide to a high concentration, nor should they as it is explosive at high concentrations. I guess they could concentrate it to about 30% on a hot plate and that may work though. That all aside Ill be watching for your halohydration video.
@Anonymous_404_Not_Found8 жыл бұрын
+john black I live in US.. was not aware you could get 30% hydrogen peroxide at lowes. What product is it in? The best ive heard about is 10% in hair bleach.
@Anonymous_404_Not_Found8 жыл бұрын
+john black Thats awesome! I appreciate it, I never had bothered with concentrating the 3% because like you said 300ml has only 30ml of 30% and it takes hours to do if you want to ensure the decomposition rate is low.
@jmac80927 жыл бұрын
4 Quarts TNL Certified 35% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide + Free Real Blue Cobalt Dropper Bottle. Shipped Fast. Sold by: Pure Health Discounts
@jmac80927 жыл бұрын
4 Quarts TNL Certified 35% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide + Free Real Blue Cobalt Dropper Bottle. Shipped Fast. Sold by: Pure Health Discounts
@ianlee58122 жыл бұрын
One of my teachers used a sonicator to kickstart a Grignard reaction at room temperature. He said it's a good alternative to using iodine if heat is insufficient in initiating the reaction. How much would you corroborate this account?
@witiwap862 жыл бұрын
I like how it's cool because it has some stank
@CarterColeisInfamous8 жыл бұрын
Have a thing like a old school chemistry set with basic chemicals or what to stock from basic household stuff
@NileRed8 жыл бұрын
I am not sure what you are asking
@CarterColeisInfamous8 жыл бұрын
Oh I was responding to your question about ideas for stuff to sell
@dreadnought95238 жыл бұрын
can you explain why Acrolein polymerizes?
@aterack8334 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a whole mini series on that and trying to do something with it afterwards
@tasoscrazymad31525 жыл бұрын
low yield is probably to wurtz reacion combining bromopentane and bromomagnisiumpentane destroying your grignard
@brettreiff8 жыл бұрын
love your videos. would deffenetly buy Nile red glass wear for my experiments. I say go for it. what do you have to lose here? lol
@joshuajames18228 жыл бұрын
Lab coats sound cool
@rassnic5 жыл бұрын
Where did your bromide went? Your final magnesium reaction is wrong Mg++ Br- + 1HCl = MgBrCl
@subzeroelectronics30224 жыл бұрын
8:05 1-octen-3-ol, isn’t that the stinky mushroom oil? I’ve heard it’s chemically similar to 1-octen-3-one, the major chemical responsible for the smell of metal.
@fabri___18834 жыл бұрын
Yep. He make such a nice video about this
@theLuigiFan0007Productions4 жыл бұрын
It also attracts mosquitoes like a freakin magnet.
@WalterFabian8 жыл бұрын
Beakers and lab coats! Take my money! ( as in other comments, hope you can ship to Europe)
@ColinRies7 жыл бұрын
Why not extract the acid with ether, wash it with water, convert to sodium salt, wash with ether and then convert back to acid, extract with ether and dry? I think this might have saved you the distillation.
@kiganbriody63146 жыл бұрын
Just wondering, is there a specific way you can insert a gas straight from a tank, instead of having to do the sodium carbonate stuff?
@denelson837 жыл бұрын
Okay, what about valeric acid? What does that smell like?
@ineedmoneysp4 жыл бұрын
Would using a bigger condenser help with it not getting overloaded or would it not matter either way. That was crazy how it was just pouring out the condenser like you were adding stuff.
@xenomancer18 жыл бұрын
A lab coat and a beaker would be nice.
@Elwynful5 жыл бұрын
Today we obtained PhMgCl from 12 kg of magnesium for the first time.
@Kony4203 жыл бұрын
me: Frequent venting
@reubenmckay5 жыл бұрын
I remember we did a Grignard reaction in one of lab classes in second year at uni and it just never worked for me....
@ChromeBirb6 жыл бұрын
*G O A T O I L*
@fft20208 жыл бұрын
Capri is latin for goat, hence the caproic acid
@ralmin5 жыл бұрын
Capricorn is goat horn
@Schwarzvogel15 жыл бұрын
Capri is not the exact Latin word for "goat." _Caper_ is Latin for goat (a she-goat would be _capra_). Capricorn ==> cornus (horn) caprinus (goaty, from/of goats) so capricon = "horn of goat(s)" Latin lessons aside, I think we can all agree that goats are awesome. If you don't like goats, then I don't know what to say. They taste good, produce good milk/cheese, and are a lot smarter and more environmentally friendly than cattle which are among the most unintelligent of mammals extant on this planet. The domesticated ones we commonly call "cows" are even worse, given that they no longer would have the survival instincts of their wild cousins. Still, since they also taste good and produce good milk/cheese, they are very useful creatures, at least until someone figures out a way to genetically engineer more compact cattle that can digest plastic with no ill effects and produce meat with a uniform quality of the finest wagyu beef. If you manage to figure that out young lads, you'll be on your way to becoming a trillionaire.