Making Kanto's Gym Leaders as BAD as POSSIBLE

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DeliciousJames

DeliciousJames

Күн бұрын

Pokemon Gym Leaders are typically pretty bad, but what if we made them WORSE? That's right, today we're going to make Kanto's gym leaders as pathetic as possible. People often try to fix these powerful trainers by creating ideal teams, so let's create the worst possible teams instead!
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@SakuraiHikari15
@SakuraiHikari15 3 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: Surge canonically likes cute Pokemon, one of his favourites in HG/SS is Pachirisu
@Thedragonlover95
@Thedragonlover95 2 ай бұрын
Thats cute
@blepleb
@blepleb 3 ай бұрын
i always see people making gym leaders stronger, but never weaker, this is so creative
@DeliciousJames
@DeliciousJames 3 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@michaelyanni6061
@michaelyanni6061 3 ай бұрын
Well actually mandjtv did a what if the 8th gym of every region was the first one
@michaelyanni6061
@michaelyanni6061 3 ай бұрын
But this is kinda original since you do every gym
@blepleb
@blepleb 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelyanni6061 thats different because he didnt make them bad, he just made them easy as in first gym easy
@darkdragon7210
@darkdragon7210 3 ай бұрын
@@blepleb I wonder what mandjtv would do for this type of video?
@hllday
@hllday 3 ай бұрын
Be honest- did you base this entire video off of the “useless endeavour” joke?
@DeliciousJames
@DeliciousJames 3 ай бұрын
......mayhaps
@lucarudloff687
@lucarudloff687 3 ай бұрын
Most likely
@daofficerofthenoodles7504
@daofficerofthenoodles7504 3 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t be surprises they made the gen rule just to make that joke
@gravy7861_
@gravy7861_ 3 ай бұрын
worry seed and sleep sleep powder is a sick combo... its like taking a laxative and a stool hardener
@mkjirak
@mkjirak 3 ай бұрын
I see what you did there.
@darkdragon7210
@darkdragon7210 3 ай бұрын
😂😂 That's good! 🤣🤣
@Monke_Messiah
@Monke_Messiah 3 ай бұрын
I can't believe Martin isn't real
@H1_R3Z
@H1_R3Z 3 ай бұрын
Was definitely the biggest twist of the video. They both rolled with the joke so seamlessly that I didn't even question it.
@DeliciousJames
@DeliciousJames 3 ай бұрын
Not yet, anyway
@melodicalTwine
@melodicalTwine 3 ай бұрын
@@DeliciousJameswhat are you planning
@gigan2444
@gigan2444 3 ай бұрын
​@@DeliciousJames how could you do this? How could you just make up Maxwell?
@Player_2_MV
@Player_2_MV 3 ай бұрын
biggest plot twist in the world
@rhymespace6740
@rhymespace6740 3 ай бұрын
The true worst gym leader was the friends we made along the way…
@DeliciousJames
@DeliciousJames 3 ай бұрын
In Ash's case, the true friends were the gym leaders he met along the way
@theluckygamer10
@theluckygamer10 3 ай бұрын
Assuming they'd even be friends with us after doing this to them all
@Cyberpunkninja92
@Cyberpunkninja92 3 ай бұрын
misty was a pretty close second tho
@TheOriginalItsCake
@TheOriginalItsCake 3 ай бұрын
The thumbnail is inaccurate, putting googly eyes on things makes them automatically better
@shytendeakatamanoir9740
@shytendeakatamanoir9740 3 ай бұрын
That Vibrava could be quite dangerous, since it can paralyze, confuse and trap you. Now, obviously the paralysis and confusion chance are incredibly low, and Vibrava has zero bulk and will die to anything. It's also not very fast. But it can dream big, even if those are nothing more than dreams, and it's more than most of his teammates can do (because Gligar could land every single guillotine without being killed before it happens too, but that's even less likely)
@DeliciousJames
@DeliciousJames 3 ай бұрын
Thats a good point! Id just love vibrava to overcome all odds and become the ultimate opponent
@darkdragon7210
@darkdragon7210 3 ай бұрын
Actually Dragon Breath is a 30% to Paralysis same chance as Scald to Burn!!!
@aprinnyonbreak1290
@aprinnyonbreak1290 3 ай бұрын
I've often thought, if making a romhack, that Vinrava might make a really interesting ace for the first gym leader.
@PhantomDusclops92
@PhantomDusclops92 3 ай бұрын
Some errors in the video: - Fake Out is Normal-type not Dark - Despite you said that you will consider only things up until Generation 3, there are some Generation 4 moves like Worry Seed, Brine, Payback, Psycho Cut, Miracle Eye, Natural Gift, Fire Fang, X-Scissor, Earth Power, Dark Pulse and Rock Polish
@gracecollins6891
@gracecollins6891 3 ай бұрын
7:35 dream eater is shown as a ghost type move, despite being psychic type (it's shown correctly at 8:02)
@TLNT2103-zg3sb
@TLNT2103-zg3sb 3 ай бұрын
Several of these also aren't coming off of their Gen III learnsets, such as Houndoom with Fire Fang and Beat Up.
@TheGodIvy
@TheGodIvy 3 ай бұрын
With so many errors, i have no reason to watch it. Seems like they did 0 research then
@Mango_TD
@Mango_TD 3 ай бұрын
Also they say with onyx that double edge will put it out of its misery faster but it’s shown to have the ability rock head? That stops all recoil damage 15:52
@christiancinnabars1402
@christiancinnabars1402 3 ай бұрын
I assume that they used mons up until Gen 3, but then used movesets up until Gen 4. They specified that they would be including the physical-special split, after all.
@WishGranted130
@WishGranted130 3 ай бұрын
I'd love to see this turned into a series! This is a fun concept that not many have tackled like you said. Good C O N T E N T ✨️
@DeliciousJames
@DeliciousJames 3 ай бұрын
I'd be interested in trying it out with gen 2!
@Hijiri_MIRACHION
@Hijiri_MIRACHION 3 ай бұрын
​@@DeliciousJames It'd be interesting to see how you could possibly make Falkner worse...
@mangoefromyoutubedotcom
@mangoefromyoutubedotcom 3 ай бұрын
@@Hijiri_MIRACHION two farfetch'd
@MrSinisterSandman
@MrSinisterSandman 3 ай бұрын
The TM thing, they should have at least had to have one TM that they were going to give to the Trainer after the Trainer wins.
@Meteorite_Shower
@Meteorite_Shower 3 ай бұрын
Agreed; most of the time the Gym Leaders slap that TM onto all their Pokémon because they love that move so much. So... they should be given _the worst_ TM possible that fits all their mons.
@SilharaTheChosen
@SilharaTheChosen 3 ай бұрын
I was so confused at that part hahaha. Like do they think the gym leaders just popped into existence? They very obviously were successful trainers in their own right before becoming gym leaders. I'm not sure why they'd think they wouldn't have access to TMs and egg moves. Realistically they would be the ones most into min maxing their Pokemon.
@magicball3201
@magicball3201 3 ай бұрын
​@@SilharaTheChosenGenerations shows them more as becoming a test to trainers, with Brock deliberately choosing two pokemon to challenge Red. In the same way a teacher won't ask obscure questions to try and fail the class, the gym leaders wouldn't intentionally sabotage themselves like this, but they aren't going to min-max their stats
@Prisoner-gk6lr
@Prisoner-gk6lr 3 ай бұрын
@@Meteorite_Shower Sabrina already gives out the worst TM possible with Psywave. I could hardly think of a more useless psychic move if I wanted to. Its especially a waste on her high special Pokemon.
@berserkerciaran
@berserkerciaran 3 ай бұрын
​@@Prisoner-gk6lrI'm pretty sure she gives you Calm Mind in FRLG
@RealCutieMutie
@RealCutieMutie 3 ай бұрын
A way to make Surge worst is to only give him mons with 4 electric moves and max PP, so as long you pack 1 diglett from the cave he literally can not touch you :3
@bennyk384
@bennyk384 3 ай бұрын
Please do this with more gym leaders! (And maybe E4 + Champion?)
@DeliciousJames
@DeliciousJames 3 ай бұрын
Lorelei gets 5 delibird
@NottsAiry
@NottsAiry 2 ай бұрын
@@DeliciousJames And then Bruno can have 5 Onyx Since, if He aint even going to use a whole team of Fighting (He uses 2 Onyx / Steelix In Gens 1 / 3), Why not give him that?
@mikeomoran9256
@mikeomoran9256 2 ай бұрын
Feebas and Magikarp swimming in the pool while Misty goes on dates Honestly sounds like a wholesome sitcom
@okaminokuro
@okaminokuro 3 ай бұрын
Everyone asks "Where's Viridian's gym leader, never how is Viridian's gym leader". Much worse now.
@chloramite567
@chloramite567 3 ай бұрын
I don't know what's worse, these Gym Leaders or Peter lying about having a nephew
@ResettisReplicas
@ResettisReplicas 3 ай бұрын
Are you allowed to pick abilities? Because Onix’s is showing as Rock Head, which is actually not bad since it’s stuck with Double Edge, whereas Sturdy will just let it stall for a bit longer.
@christiancinnabars1402
@christiancinnabars1402 3 ай бұрын
Before Gen 5, all Sturdy did was negate OHKO moves. So Sturdy is definitely the better choice there.
@stormRed
@stormRed 3 ай бұрын
These teams are so bad even the worms have a chance.
@luckymcgirl9916
@luckymcgirl9916 3 ай бұрын
Now we just need a ROM hack featuring these new teams…
@citrus_yellow
@citrus_yellow 3 ай бұрын
THAT WOULD BR SO FUNNY it’s called like pokemon sh*ttygreen version
@zachpro5475
@zachpro5475 3 ай бұрын
@@citrus_yellowmore like Pokémon baby green
@konbkob4156
@konbkob4156 2 ай бұрын
Ngl a ROM Hack that buffs regular trainers and nerfs boss fights would be really funny Imagine sweeping Giovanni's team but dying to Prankster Joseph's Raticate
@shadowdragun
@shadowdragun 3 ай бұрын
Wait, if the teams and movesets are based of frlg...how does Koga's qwilfish have brine? That's a 4th gen move
@thesirensystem
@thesirensystem 3 ай бұрын
koga is hacking. He's just really really bad at it
@CodenameJD
@CodenameJD 3 ай бұрын
Excellent premise, please do more. I can't even imagine how you'd make most Johto gym leaders weaker.
@js739
@js739 3 ай бұрын
"i dunno i made him up" is such a strong line to end on
@thekoifishcoyote8762
@thekoifishcoyote8762 3 ай бұрын
10:59 Beat up's whole gimmick is that it uses every team member's attack.
@H1_R3Z
@H1_R3Z 3 ай бұрын
They changed Beat Up in Gen 5 to only use the user's attack stat. For the sake of this video, it should still work the way you're thinking, but I can't really blame James if he didn't realize it worked like that.
@thesirensystem
@thesirensystem 3 ай бұрын
yes, and the other 3 pokemon on the team have even lower attack than Houndoom does, I don't fully understand your point
@BramLastname
@BramLastname 3 ай бұрын
@@thesirensystem Why have it on the first pokémon? That's free damage for no disenable reason.
@BramLastname
@BramLastname 3 ай бұрын
@@thesirensystem If you switch the Growlithe and Houndoom around All that changes is that Houndoom deals less damage. Thus having Beat Up on the first pokemon is still a mistake.
@thekoifishcoyote8762
@thekoifishcoyote8762 3 ай бұрын
@@H1_R3Z Huh. That's a weird change.
@peteele4030
@peteele4030 3 ай бұрын
Wait which episode are those Giovanni dancing clips from? XD
@DeliciousJames
@DeliciousJames 3 ай бұрын
I'm not sure, I just found the gif on google. But I would assume from the ruby/sapphire anime
@shepskydad
@shepskydad 3 ай бұрын
You two are the masters of PokéPuns 👏🏼
@DeliciousJames
@DeliciousJames 3 ай бұрын
When they said id be a pokemon master, this isnt what I envisioned. But i welcome it
@christinafrazier1364
@christinafrazier1364 3 ай бұрын
12:58 this sounds like something that could be in one of those quiz videos XD. Which Pokemon has the best typing, except its about a pokemon with multiple hands like machamp or something
@JackitK
@JackitK 3 ай бұрын
Improving Gym Leaders: I sleep Make them as bad as possible: I wake.
@briandigiovanni6159
@briandigiovanni6159 3 ай бұрын
Guillotine simply fails if the user is lower level than the target, so Gligar should be Giovanni's second pokemon so it's at the lowest level
@samgilbert5973
@samgilbert5973 3 ай бұрын
6:09 fake out is totally dark type and super effective against psychic type 😂😂
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 3 ай бұрын
To be fair, hitting unexpectedly the moment you come out does sound like a dirty move.
@The_One_In_Black
@The_One_In_Black 2 ай бұрын
I know it's a bit, but this is Surge slander! He mentions being tight with his Pokémon who saved him in the war!
@TLNT2103-zg3sb
@TLNT2103-zg3sb 3 ай бұрын
This video is a fun idea, though I do have several arguments against some of these decisions (Assuming Gen 3 learnsets) (New options indicated with (*)): - Really going to need to define what is “best STAB attack”; is it “highest base power”, “best move that is compatible with its stats”, or “highest in level-up learnset”? - Lileep’s weaknesses are rather finicky to work with (Fighting, Bug, Steel, Ice) while having an ability that does something, so I would argue that it would actually be HARDER to take down n both Brock’s and Erika’s teams, lacklustre moves aside. Also, the page that was referenced shows that it gets Confuse Ray at level 29, which is the level that Lileep was indicated to be - Onix has even more weaknesses, 2 of them are quad effective, and Rock Head doesn’t help it at all. I don’t think Brock could sink lower than Onix, even if Onix has more moves - (*) Lombre has rather finicky weaknesses (No weakness to Fire and Ice), while Nuzleaf has the same stat total, an ability that is only marginally more useful (Chlorophyll), and even 0 STAB moves until level 31 for Faint Attack. (Unless the requirement is that it HAS to be able to have a STAB attack in the first place) - Koga - Haunter is a Ghost type and has Levitate, deterring Ground and Psychic types, even if running off its weaker Attack stat - Weepinbell’s Wrap could do fixed damage over time and is Grass-typed to deter Ground types - Qwilfish being Water-typed and having Brine could deter Ground types - (*) Beedrill and Ariados have Swarm, are not weak to Ground, and deter Psychic with Bug, but have a lower BST than Qwilfish (Beedrill Moves: Pin missile, Rage, Pursuit, and Twineedle) (Ariados Moves: Leech Life, Fury Swipes, Night Shade, Poison Sting) - (*) Grimer evolves at level 38 and has a lower BST than Nidorina (Moves: Acid Armor, Screech, Minimise, Sludge) - (*) Gloom has lower offences, and has to use Absorb (20 BP) in place of Vine Whip (35 BP), though Moonlight and Sleep Powder are significantly more dangerous (Moves: Absorb, Acid, Moonlight, Sleep Powder) - Sabrina - Kadabra with its Gen 3 learnset still WILL have a special attack, and at the level it’s at, it’ll be Psychic, so pass (Even then, the rule of giving it its best STAB attack ) - (*) Chimecho has less special attack, has Psywave (Technically a special attack), and Levitae is not terribly useful (Moves: Psywave, Double-Edge, Heal Bell, Yawn) - Blaine - Houndoom with its Gen 3 learnset will have Ember, Faint Attack, Odor Sleuth and Bite, so it’s still not particularly strong - (*) Magcargo has the second lowest BST of all fully evolved Fire types, but it will have Flamethrower, Amnesia, Harden, and Rock Throw - Giovanni - Dugtrio’s learnset shown is from Gen 4; its Gen 3 moves would be Slash, Sand Tomb, Mud Slap, and Fury Swipes - Pupitar has Dark Pulse when Crunch is the same base power, is higher in the level up learnset at level 41, and is more compatible with its stats - (*) Sandslash has a slightly higher BST than Pupitar, but is stuck with Slash, Fury Cutter, Crush Claw and Sand Tomb
@Marblegamingmaster
@Marblegamingmaster 3 ай бұрын
8:29 Koga’s ace Pokémon that’s Lv. 43 is now the menacing, terrifying, titan of all poison types: Qwilfish. In the background: oh no
@KuroBlitz
@KuroBlitz 3 ай бұрын
This is by far the best subversion of this topic that I've seen. It's incredible. Keep up the amazing work.
@samuelebertinazzi4468
@samuelebertinazzi4468 3 ай бұрын
Make all of them have zero I.V.s and hold the Flame/Toxic orb
@DeliciousJames
@DeliciousJames 3 ай бұрын
And also blindfold them
@koltensmith3974
@koltensmith3974 2 ай бұрын
Didn't exist in gen 3
@darkdragon7210
@darkdragon7210 3 ай бұрын
This is a Really, Interesting, & Unique Video!!! 😍😍😍😍 Brock : Can't think of anything so it works. Misty : Is so UGLY, that Feebas Evolves from just being around Misty's Ugly Face!!! Lt. Surge : Can't think of anything Better. Ericka : How about adding Paras & Parsect with Dry Skin? Knowing Solar Beam! Koga : Can't come up with Better Team. Sabrina : What about a Beldum? After all it only knows Take Down! Blaine : Magcargo & Camerupt on his Team as both are 4x Weak to Water and since you need Surf anyway to get to Cinnabar Island!!! Giovanni : That Vibrava though with Dragon Breath is Decently Powerful plus its got a 30% to Paralysis!!!
@francescocalabrese441
@francescocalabrese441 3 ай бұрын
The worst part about Giovanni's team is that for the type of character he is, it would make sense for him to import pokemon from other regions, and his disaster of a team is what it took for me to realize this.
@The94Nut
@The94Nut 2 ай бұрын
I had never even thought about this but LT. Surge is hilariously ironic. “Speed of electricity” next to a cave of Dugtrio the FASTEST GROUND TYPE.
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Genius idea guys! Fun way to highlight how terrible level up movesets in gen 3 are
@herowither12354
@herowither12354 3 ай бұрын
You should've given Koga's Weepinbell Sleep Powder, to set up for the Haunter before it.
@koltensmith3974
@koltensmith3974 2 ай бұрын
They want the gym leaders weaker, not stronger. More incompetent not competent. Lol
@herowither12354
@herowither12354 2 ай бұрын
@@koltensmith3974 Reread my comment. Think long and hard about it.
@koltensmith3974
@koltensmith3974 2 ай бұрын
@@herowither12354 I don't see what you're saying. Yeah Weepinbell comes after Haunter in the line up, but maybe the ai could glitch and send out Weepinbell, AFTER Haunter? Or switch?
@herowither12354
@herowither12354 2 ай бұрын
@@koltensmith3974 Building the teams under the assumption that everyone playing will get a one in a million glitch? That's stupid.
@koltensmith3974
@koltensmith3974 2 ай бұрын
@@herowither12354 just saying it can happen. No need to be so critical or dick about it. Lol
@PorygonBugado
@PorygonBugado 3 ай бұрын
"Making kanto gym leader stronger!" This guy: magikarp go Splash
@dasamont8274
@dasamont8274 2 ай бұрын
Giovanni's Onix seems dangerous, it has Rock Head, so it doesn't take recoil damage from Double Edge.
@MotorcycleCheetah
@MotorcycleCheetah 3 ай бұрын
Oh god, the Jokes, Puns, Banter and Cutaways in this video are great. I’ve never actually seen this channel before. I look forward to more good stuff like this! 💚
@Unyubaby
@Unyubaby 3 ай бұрын
Interesting choice giving Giovanni an Onix with Double-Edge while its ability is Rock Head.
@oMuStiiA
@oMuStiiA 3 ай бұрын
Says Blaine wouldn't bother to evolve growlith while putting it right next to Blaine's pre-existing arcanine lmao.
@ScarletRebel96
@ScarletRebel96 3 ай бұрын
This video was delicious
@DeliciousJames
@DeliciousJames 3 ай бұрын
And hopefully nutritious!
@SheepStar8
@SheepStar8 3 ай бұрын
This video is fantastic. Great editing and commentary! I wouldn't have thought making the Gym Leaders bad would be an interesting or humorous concept but you both make it so. :)
@timpearson4202
@timpearson4202 2 ай бұрын
12:29 casually throwing the Lampentair up there 😂
@JOSE-sh6ij
@JOSE-sh6ij 24 күн бұрын
The video is actually really funny I enjoyed your jokes a lot
@valzone
@valzone 3 ай бұрын
Another delicious piece of James from the two of you
@_J_C_
@_J_C_ 3 ай бұрын
Now you have to Nerf the Elite Four/Five!🎉
@murphthegangster
@murphthegangster 3 ай бұрын
Love your guys content, can’t wait to see you grow more :)
@ptl1545
@ptl1545 2 ай бұрын
IM NOT PATHETIC MEANIES😡😡😡😡😡
@PersonOfRandomnesss
@PersonOfRandomnesss 3 ай бұрын
Yall legit made things harder on yourselves both by allowing the phys/spec split (c'mon its not that confusing) and by not just doing gen 3 moves. It feels like that should have been easy enough to notice/do... kinda disappointing research. Its really only kadabra that this rule is for.
@thepokemonqueen
@thepokemonqueen 3 ай бұрын
now this is a good thought exercise
@Marblegamingmaster
@Marblegamingmaster 3 ай бұрын
Pls do Johto and other regions as well… actually, Johto only needs help with Clair and Whitney :/ Also, Giovanni’s Onix has Rock Head… so Double Edge wouldn’t do recoil…
@WillyLongLegsTheSpider
@WillyLongLegsTheSpider 3 ай бұрын
15:51 fools ! You just gave him rock head double edge,now he will destroy the opponent with his 45 base attack !
@RocketJo86
@RocketJo86 3 ай бұрын
Would play that hack 😂
@ObsessiveFanNumber1
@ObsessiveFanNumber1 3 ай бұрын
I will never get over how creative you guys are. This is brilliant 🤣
@IsabelleChiming
@IsabelleChiming 3 ай бұрын
You guys actually fucked up not giving Blaine Magcargo. Actually worse than every other Pokemon he has. Great video tho
@anexistingperson8540
@anexistingperson8540 3 ай бұрын
It kind of annoyed me how inconsistent this video was in terms of movesets. For some Pokemon, like Lileep, you used gen 3 learnsets but for others you didn't. This is really obvious when you give some Pokemon moves that aren't even in gen 3...
@NickOleksiakMusic
@NickOleksiakMusic 3 ай бұрын
You bounce off each other very well! Just subbed 👍
@focus1809
@focus1809 3 ай бұрын
The subtle "oh no" when qwilfish was mentioned was amazing
@venomgaming7014
@venomgaming7014 3 ай бұрын
I’m 101% sure the lvl 50 Onix should’ve had stone edge. It gets it at lvl 49. But it’s 80% accurate so woohoo.
@hhjan594
@hhjan594 3 ай бұрын
I love this unique concept. Down for more for all other regions, would be interesting to see how they differ within each regional dex.
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 2 ай бұрын
Geeze, you guys sure love to dunk on Lileep. Which... fair, considering the levels it'll be showing up at here.
@mihai1997
@mihai1997 3 ай бұрын
We can't wait to see you do this to the other gym leaders from the other regions
@TheToastBunnyProductions
@TheToastBunnyProductions 2 ай бұрын
You should have given Blaine Magcargo instead of Houndoom, you could spit on that mf and it immediately dies
@RoninCatholic
@RoninCatholic 3 ай бұрын
Jynx with Mean Look AND Fake Tears? Buddy, that's one of my ex-girlfriends!
@nintendo-relatedchannel5810
@nintendo-relatedchannel5810 2 ай бұрын
9:23 - Using Teleport would just send it back to the Pokémon Center. You’re so cruel.
@CradilyBestPokemon
@CradilyBestPokemon 3 ай бұрын
Poor lileep 😭
@Lusius8879
@Lusius8879 3 ай бұрын
Did you forget to change blaine's ponyta entirely? I get the "lv40 should be evolved, we can keep it" arguement... But his ponyta knows fire blast (a TM move, unlike ANY other pokemon in this video)... and BOUNCE... a strong physical attack that can paralyze... despite ponyta not learning it untill lv45. as a fact, Blaine as a whole moreso felt like an remake than a downgrade. Growlithe to Houndoom was an upgrade; higher basestat for their attacks (houndoom's 90 compared to growlithe's 70). Fire Fang is also more reliable than Fire Blast from Growlithe. And i think you forgot how Beat Up worked in gen 3. Rapidash into Growlithe is also barely a downgrade. Only 10 sp.at worse than Rapidash, but with the 100% accurate stab flamethrower over Rapiddash's unreliable fire blast. arcanine to vulpix is the only one that ACTUALLY was a clear downgrade.
@Hyndsyte2020
@Hyndsyte2020 2 ай бұрын
Objection: The block shown for Giovanni's Onix at the end gives it Rock Head, which makes it not take recoil damage from Double-Edge. It should have Sturdy instead, which is one of the worst abilities in FRLG (it only blocks OHKO moves in this gen).
@mindwarp42
@mindwarp42 3 ай бұрын
... I do not know if there is a sense of irony in catching this video not long after finishing a playthrough of Pokemon Yellow Legacy, which is a ROM hack that went in the opposite direction of this (fixing Gen 1's biggest problems without losing that Gen 1 feel). So, next question is how much worse could you make the Gen 1 versions of the Kanto gym leaders by using only Gen 1 mons, moves, and general Gen 1 weirdness? 🤔
@infinityalbi9840
@infinityalbi9840 3 ай бұрын
I hate to be so negative, but I'm confused as to why starting with Koga you started giving Pokémon moves from Gen 4 onwards when this is supposed to be FireRed and LeafGreen. I wouldn't mind it if you stated from the beginning like you did with the physical-special split. Just a little constructive criticism, otherwise the video is great.
@xjennyintime
@xjennyintime 3 ай бұрын
Surge should've have had a Zapdos BUT he only ever uses X Speed on every turn
@ClassicWatcher
@ClassicWatcher 2 ай бұрын
10:15 - Funnily enough, Sabrina does have Jynx on her team in HG/SS (Rematch) and Let's GO, so I guess Game Freak would disagree with your opinion.
@sai_ai__8446
@sai_ai__8446 3 ай бұрын
*janine casually becoming the strongest gym leader in kanto and beating her father*
@Laezar1
@Laezar1 3 ай бұрын
lol, laying out rules to immediately break them on the first pokemon is... a choice xD especially with the argument of "overwriting tackle" on a pokemon with two move? I would have understood the argument of keeping the same moveset but here come on T.T Also not sure why you'd use gen 3 and then assume physical/special split is a thing, that's really arbitrary, and it's not like it's very complex either (and it gives you more opportunity to have pokemons that don't have access to move they can properly use)
@DavidStowers-o7k
@DavidStowers-o7k 3 ай бұрын
You should've switched that last Onix's ability to make it worse as Rock Head negates Double Edge's recoil damage and Sturdy only became a less useless ability from Gen. 5 onwards.
@towerofignis
@towerofignis 9 күн бұрын
OH MY GOSH Geovani is a ground type gym leader because you can only fight him after you've beat team rocket and he's *gone to ground*
@existinginaspace8347
@existinginaspace8347 7 күн бұрын
People always use the fire red and leaf green games for these comparisons but whenever someone says Canto I default to the first three games. The remakes on GBA basically don't even exist to me
@Sailor-Khione
@Sailor-Khione 2 ай бұрын
Finally, i roll my eyes when i see videos about making the gym leaders "good" some I've actually had trouble with. It just reminds me of those competitive players who say the games are too easy. It wouldn't be an issue if we had 3 difficulty modes.
@peteypiranalover
@peteypiranalover 3 ай бұрын
Lileep 4:11 has effective typing. With Hp it isnt actually much different than Onix but has good sp defense. I actually think u upgraded Brock
@The94Nut
@The94Nut 2 ай бұрын
I need a “lowest level bid” contest. Each of you secret auction bid for the lowest level team that you think could beat each gym leader. If you win you add the level of your pokemon to your score, if you lose you add 100 per pokemon that you used in the battle. Low score wins.
@notgonnasay09
@notgonnasay09 3 ай бұрын
I'm surprised at the restraint for not adding some Bug-type Pokemon to some of these line-ups. Like, imagine if Koga had a Beedrill on his team, or if Brock had a Shuckle.
@stevenreckling203
@stevenreckling203 3 ай бұрын
It's technically possible for mud sport to do something on an Onix but not with those moves. Onix can learn mimic by move tutor in fr/lg and if it mimics conversion when fighting a porygon that can make it no longer ground type and able to be hit by electric moves.
@kidayuki9884
@kidayuki9884 3 ай бұрын
The problem with lileep is that rock/grass is actually a good typing against the starter trio becoming neutral to all three with the exception of charmanders metal claw. On the principle of typing lileep is too strong for this challenge. Onyx and it's weaker then an Oddish attack stat would remain a better leader pokemon
@LOLC2k
@LOLC2k 3 ай бұрын
Pretty cool idea... I wish you didn't break your rules in the first pokemon of the first gym leader though. It got much better after that, but someone seeing that might exit out after, thinking you repeatedly do that.
@crazychristopher1989
@crazychristopher1989 3 ай бұрын
You could've replaced Defense Curl with Mud Sport instead while making Tackle have a much lower accuracy rate.
@kevin1153
@kevin1153 3 ай бұрын
I know it’s not the video format but for Blane give him his gen one AI and replace all his super potions with regular potions. Hard to make his team worse when almost all water types in gen one can no setup sweep with surf.
@Kazam354
@Kazam354 3 ай бұрын
about Brock, ``you mean my Charmander won't deal miminum damage anymore...yeahiii (about lileep)
@dokucroe3865
@dokucroe3865 3 ай бұрын
This greatly defines the bad trainers in RBY or FRLG in a nutshell but make them into gym leaders because why not.
@harathon13
@harathon13 3 ай бұрын
Luckily the games make misty the worst. But ash watched/fought a gym leader battle with those two and got wrecked/watched somebody get wrecked.
@usuario15965
@usuario15965 2 ай бұрын
They use weaker pokemon according to the trainers level,they are far more strong,they just hold back with rookies
@solereflection9284
@solereflection9284 3 ай бұрын
😅 You guys didn't hold back much. To even screw with the emotional health of the poor things.
@zalkarkazakbaev6691
@zalkarkazakbaev6691 3 ай бұрын
Worst elite 4
@Bengt2509
@Bengt2509 3 ай бұрын
13:37 actually it probably wont even work because most people have a mon above level 45 by then and ohko moves are nullified by having a higher level mon
@christopherballero866
@christopherballero866 2 ай бұрын
Onix only does well in Little Cup but that's due to everything being first form & unevolved
@Lzsnyder24
@Lzsnyder24 3 ай бұрын
Oh this is a fantastic premise!! Can you do gold and silver gyms or the elite 4, if you haven’t already
@wilkinsmacabre850
@wilkinsmacabre850 2 ай бұрын
I love all your videos but this one’s my favorite. I’ve watched it thrice. Hope you do Johto someday
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