Making nitric acid for gold and silver refining.

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Philip Bender

Philip Bender

5 жыл бұрын

In this video I demonstrate how to make nitric acid for gold and silver refining.

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@otilium7503
@otilium7503 Жыл бұрын
The golden color is so gorgeous!
@spencergraves989
@spencergraves989 3 жыл бұрын
Thankful for you and your videos. I appreciate your precision and how this video describes the whole process with the upmost detail.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am happy you enjoyed the video 🤗😀
@prinz10ga
@prinz10ga 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating and very informative. Would love to observe first hand.
@larrylaird91
@larrylaird91 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the chemistry class and it's exactly what I am looking for fuming red nitric acid, I need it to make mucury fulminate which is very dangerous but if stored in water it is safe as long as you don't drop it.
@ethicalhacker8887
@ethicalhacker8887 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you from Pakistan
@gamingshortschannel1109
@gamingshortschannel1109 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome information. I am happy I stumbled across a bright mind like you. Keep up the good videos. Can't stop watching them.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I am happy you enjoyed the video 🤗😀
@S730SD
@S730SD 4 жыл бұрын
In the same instance, I'd have added boiling water to the crude nitrate after putting it in the beaker; just enough to dissolve them. Might speed up recrystallizing & with less H20 to get rid of. :)
@josephpecoul6532
@josephpecoul6532 3 жыл бұрын
Im a Casual Observer and im on board thanks for the video.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am happy you enjoyed the video 🤗😀
@paulscottpadgett1996
@paulscottpadgett1996 3 жыл бұрын
Much Respect 💪
@ourodolixo-e
@ourodolixo-e 5 жыл бұрын
Very good 👏👏👏👏 Nice👍
@n.pisamoovung1822
@n.pisamoovung1822 3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to give this a try. Thank you so much for the explain
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am happy you enjoyed the video 🤗😀
@sreetips
@sreetips 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work, I'll have to give this a try. Thank you.
@tchouwie
@tchouwie 5 жыл бұрын
sreetips I came here because I usually follow you. I just wanted to reply so both of you know. You can make Nitric acid for free. If you take wood ashes as a source of potassium and your morning pee for the source of Nitric. You mix the two and boil that, the vapor that will come out as it boil will be Nitric acid. Just letting you know in case both of you didn't know.
@sreetips
@sreetips 5 жыл бұрын
That would make a very interesting video.
@johnblair8146
@johnblair8146 5 жыл бұрын
Sreetips, the beginning of this video reminds me of your videos about precipitating gold from chloroauric acid solutions only backwards. :-)
@AbuBakr.Abdullah
@AbuBakr.Abdullah 4 жыл бұрын
@@tchouwie wow did u try that yet?
@craigmohammed8680
@craigmohammed8680 4 жыл бұрын
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@NOFX0890
@NOFX0890 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video Philip. Thanks for the info and thanks to the people in the comments for the extra tips. Id add something, not very technical, but a thrift store stainless potato masher might help with breaking up the Potassium Nitrate crystals. Love your Audio track man. Dont ever change your style.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am happy you enjoyed the video 🤗 😀
@anahoae
@anahoae 5 жыл бұрын
You can make it from thin air and electricity as well Nice vid thank you
@okay8632
@okay8632 3 жыл бұрын
not so easy though
@ismetbiljali9700
@ismetbiljali9700 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice Man thanks
@jacksonvillereclaimedwood6709
@jacksonvillereclaimedwood6709 3 жыл бұрын
Great video dude!
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am happy you enjoyed the video. 🤗😀
@camsmagnetadventures4030
@camsmagnetadventures4030 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks keep up the video man now I can refine some silver
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am happy you enjoyed the video 🤗😀
@JK-zl7vv
@JK-zl7vv Жыл бұрын
Very helpful brother 😎👍
@mr.planter494
@mr.planter494 3 жыл бұрын
You're a great teacher.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, be sure to treat other chemistry channels as a class. You will learn more from many 🤓
@mr.planter494
@mr.planter494 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I love your videos
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
😌😅🤗😎
@najeebullahamjad8224
@najeebullahamjad8224 4 жыл бұрын
Nice posting
@johnnyx53
@johnnyx53 4 жыл бұрын
Good video! Practical- esp when seeing the price of nitric online and the ultra-high expense of hazard shipping! You’re like paying double for it
@thehatedones5153
@thehatedones5153 4 жыл бұрын
Distill battery acid, it’s cheaper and you can find it locally
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 6 ай бұрын
@@thehatedones5153that’s sulfuric acid, not nitric
@shintokatana17
@shintokatana17 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice, thank you for sharing
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am happy you enjoyed the video 🤗 😀
@gwsmith76
@gwsmith76 4 жыл бұрын
You should filter the potassium nitrate solution boil it until salt begins to form on a metal spoon or knife when it’s removed from the super concentrated liquid. The place in fridge for 4 hours, repeat process. Your yield will double if not triple, take less time and ultimately produce more nitric acid.
@amrendramishra545
@amrendramishra545 7 ай бұрын
Congratulations 😊
@Berghiker
@Berghiker 2 жыл бұрын
When potassium nitrate dissolves in water, it is an endothermic reaction as the temperature drops.
@gantz4u
@gantz4u 4 жыл бұрын
Provided you have all of the glass laying around. Cost break down for ingredients looks to be US dollar $17 to $23 here. Vs. $50 to $62 for roughly the same amount of purchased nitric(if they will even sell it to you) at these quantities, no clue how the cost break down works for 55 gallon orders but I'm somewhat doubtful the savings with this scale there. Mileage may vary on those ingredient prices.
@tomspeed2000
@tomspeed2000 2 жыл бұрын
Is nice video, at the end I recommend to be use dark glass container instead transparent glass because HNO3, specifically at high concentrations forms will decomposing by the lights..
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am happy you enjoyed the video 🤗 😀
@nurcahyani980
@nurcahyani980 2 жыл бұрын
Yes tangkyou mastter impormasi nya yes
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am happy you enjoyed the video 🤗 😀
@legaia_2804
@legaia_2804 4 жыл бұрын
Would any basic distillation kit work for this, or should I buy a certain kind? Sorry for my ignorance
@jhyland87
@jhyland87 4 жыл бұрын
Damn... Those crystals are too pretty to break! You should see how big of a single crystal you can grow.
@Billionaire2.0492
@Billionaire2.0492 Жыл бұрын
can we use sodium nitrate instead of pottasium
@jadenephrite
@jadenephrite 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding 2:03, adding potassium nitrate into water produces an endothermic reaction which is the cooling effect. On the other hand, if it had been an exothermic reaction, this would have produced a heating effect.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I misspoke during the narration.
@rene.martinez5714
@rene.martinez5714 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro fr
@moci42
@moci42 Жыл бұрын
I have no desire to make nitric acid, but the chemistry of it is most interesting.
@mdsajidnoman9716
@mdsajidnoman9716 4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@StevenSchoolAlchemy
@StevenSchoolAlchemy 3 жыл бұрын
Great job!
@peterlamont647
@peterlamont647 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, and when you're done making nitric acid, you can make some corned beef with all that salt peter...couple tea spoons to a brisket, brine for a couple weeks in the fridge.
@peterlamont647
@peterlamont647 5 жыл бұрын
Although the stuff I have is pink...potassium nitrate is white. So I wonder if it is just a mixture of salts I have...
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 5 жыл бұрын
@@peterlamont647 the pink stuff maybe an anti-caking agent.
@peterlamont647
@peterlamont647 5 жыл бұрын
@@philipbender956 I'm thinking they put pink dye in it so that you don't mistake it for regular salt. In many recipes & cook books it is referred to even as pink salt. It also tells you when the meat is corned(its the only way I can tell) when it turns pink. This is also what gives salami, pepperoni, corned beef, bacon, ham, pastrami etc. their respective pinkish color. I had always assumed that salt peter was pink as a chemical as a result...I definitely learned a lot from this video!
@hmax1591
@hmax1591 4 жыл бұрын
O.K. thank you for the chemistry class. very interesting. I doubt it I would be refining gold or silver from computer parts, I have seen your other video and seems quite a lot of work for such a small amount of gold. . But it is interesting. I mix potassium nitrate and sugar to make great smoke bombs.
@chancebutler6472
@chancebutler6472 2 жыл бұрын
tyvm
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy 😁😊
@thebobsquadmob
@thebobsquadmob 4 жыл бұрын
I have the honor of being #1000. I am not a chemist by any stretch but I would say this is a great instructional video. I was actually looking for instructions on turning the non-metallic lead in a lead-acid battery back to metal. Robert Murray Smith did one a few years ago but I think he removed it because too many people were on him about the safety of handling lead. I see quite a few guys doing battery revival videos and the not metallic lead seems to go to an undisclosed location.
@fivel976
@fivel976 4 жыл бұрын
i have found that if you filter of your water from the first batch and use it in a second batch you get a much better yeald first batch i got 2 pounds from the 3 pounds i stared with the second batch using the water from the first batch i got 3 lbs 2 oz of crystls
@johnrpickett1794
@johnrpickett1794 3 жыл бұрын
Hello - The video worked great. Was able to follow, adjust for my size equipment and the results were spot on ... The 1st time. I do have a follow on question for my 2nd and 3rd batch I did months later. Upon completion I did not have any Potassium Sulfate left over in the boiling flask. Why and what was the catalyst for this occurring? Hope you see this new question on an older comment. I enjoy the videos!
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you used an excess of sulfuric acid.
@johnrpickett1794
@johnrpickett1794 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Will pay more attention.
@johnrpickett1794
@johnrpickett1794 2 жыл бұрын
Saw my error. Potassium nitrate measured in grams. Sulfuric acid measured in ml. Next batch went perfect. Thanks again!
@zmarekk
@zmarekk 3 жыл бұрын
Great job :) like is ok.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am happy you enjoyed the video🤗😀
@user-je2yg3om8n
@user-je2yg3om8n Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this description. Please how can I use sulphuric acid deluted 32% ?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 Жыл бұрын
I am not sure if you can. 🤔 I am happy you enjoyed the video.
@imsidetracted
@imsidetracted 4 жыл бұрын
i used to use stump remover for my candy rocket engines then i discovered amazon when I wanted to add powdered aluminum darned if they dont sell it, and potassium nitrate! cheaper also!
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I purchase all my potassium nitrate from amazon.
@billywalker8631
@billywalker8631 5 жыл бұрын
Can you link to a place to get all the glassware you use in your distillation setup? Or a list of pieces? Thanks
@GainsGoblin
@GainsGoblin 5 жыл бұрын
Probably better that you learn about it on your own. Playing with acids without any knowledge about basic chemistry isn't very safe especially if you plan to play around with nitrogen compounds. I can ship you a distillation lab I did recently. The principle is the same as what is described here and the apparatus used to distill is similar.
@longimanusisurus132
@longimanusisurus132 3 жыл бұрын
Simply beautifull. Could you tell me how much quantity you get of nítrico acid using that 800 of PN, and 600 of Sulfúric ac?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
About 500 mil
@rkb6783
@rkb6783 3 ай бұрын
WOW... THAT WAS EXPENSIVE !
@michschep7601
@michschep7601 5 жыл бұрын
Filter the hot solution before cooling to remove anti-caking agents...... and its endothermic reaction when mixing nitrate and water.....
@abdullraufkhn4052
@abdullraufkhn4052 2 жыл бұрын
Good very nice vedio.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am happy you enjoyed the video 🤗 😀
@abdullraufkhn4052
@abdullraufkhn4052 2 жыл бұрын
@@philipbender956 Thank u very much Sir.
@gauravsrivastava9477
@gauravsrivastava9477 2 жыл бұрын
phillip I love your work , its amazing to watch you doing all this , I also want to do this , can you name sources where I can buy these chemicals , equipments and the scraps for the experiment . Love from India. ❤️❤️
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am happy you enjoyed the video 🤗 😀 Try searching "gold fingers" on eBay. You can also find all the equipment and chemicals there.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 2 жыл бұрын
Amazon is also good they have the best price on potassium nitrate. Pyrotechnic grade.😀
@somsackvongsa7077
@somsackvongsa7077 Жыл бұрын
@@philipbender956 edward scizor hand.
@homealchemy
@homealchemy 3 жыл бұрын
What is the name brand for the sulfuric acid drain opener? It’s looks so clear!
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Rooto Professional drain cleaner. I get it from my local hardware store. It's not always clear sometimes they just forget to put the dye and inhibitor in it. The reaction will still work fine if you have coloured sulfuric acid drain cleaner. Once you start the reaction the heat and acid will destroy any impurities in the mix. The solution will go clear very quickly. I hope that was helpful. I am happy you enjoyed the video
@valtercisco
@valtercisco 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use the bottom of a stainless steel distiller to heat the mixture and the rest of the process in glass tubes?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Yes just make sure it's high-quality non-magnetic stainless steel.
@keithmorrison6176
@keithmorrison6176 3 жыл бұрын
to make the crystals do you put in the freezer or just in the regular part of the fridge.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
To make crystals you need to chill the solution but not freeze it. I would advise you place in the refrigerator not the freezer.
@KD0CAC
@KD0CAC 3 жыл бұрын
A few couple questions , I heard that high purity nitric acid will decompose - how to stop that ? Use of brown glass for storage ? Thanks
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, use Brown glass for long-term storage. Then keep in a cool dark place away from UV light.
@ivsongold322
@ivsongold322 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
😆🤗
@robertkorfanta9087
@robertkorfanta9087 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for all the videos. Can you use a nitric acid substitute instead of the stump out
@ahmedmahdi1849
@ahmedmahdi1849 Жыл бұрын
You can get potssium nitrate from a fertilizer bag containing the salt
@jhyland87
@jhyland87 4 жыл бұрын
Question - On one of the videos on NileBlue (NileRed's second channel about random lab stuff and cleanups), he states that RFNA should be stored in a bottle only at like 50% of the volume, since the nitric acid fumes can build up the pressure and cause it to fail. Additionally, he said that he vents his bottle often, sometimes daily, to ensure pressure isn't built up. Do you do the same thing for RFNA storage?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know about any of that stuff 😯 But just for good measure I did just check a glass bottle of concentrated nitric acid. That I made myself two years ago......... There was no pressure in the bottle. Everything looks good 🤔 Maybe Nile blue was speaking of some sort of peroxide compound. I know that can get explosive as it degrades with age.
@jhyland87
@jhyland87 4 жыл бұрын
@@philipbender956 nope, it was RFNA. go to 1:30 in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYPNaHqmgZiFm9E
@front2760
@front2760 5 жыл бұрын
Hi nice vid.Brings me back to when i was taking chemistry in school.I wondered though if it might not easier to pick up potassium nitrate from a butcher supply that sells spices and such.Might be a little easier i think.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 5 жыл бұрын
I agree it would be easier. I have searched around. Extracting potassium nitrate from Spectracide stump remover is cheaper then just buying potassium nitrate. From 6 pounds of Spectracide stump remover you will get 5 pounds of potassium nitrate at a cost of $44.00. Every other source I have found is more expensive and has a shipping cost. With this method it cost about $55.00 per liter of %95+ nitric acid.
@front2760
@front2760 5 жыл бұрын
Ya i forgot about shipping.I have around 1200 gm of sterling that i melted down so i now i need some nitric acid for the next step.Hence me watching these videos.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 5 жыл бұрын
@@front2760 it takes about 800 mil of the nitric acid that I make to dissolve 1000 grams of sterling silver. I will be publishing a video demonstrating such in about a week.
@mahdiarghafarian4031
@mahdiarghafarian4031 5 жыл бұрын
Did you work with RDX and PETN or plastic explosives ?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 5 жыл бұрын
I have not worked with any explosives. I am more of a hobby chemist.
@kl.et.earth.com..1896
@kl.et.earth.com..1896 Жыл бұрын
I would have liked to create some nitric acid to purify my collected bit of gold that I have so far electrolytically refined with sulfuric acid, This video & other methods I have examined seem unpleasant & hazardous by the very nature of the subject of such strong chemistry, Though I don't really like the idea of evaporating a small amount of lead I think cupellation is by far a more acceptable approach to my fussiness really. Very interesting video thanks.
@MrKenny9151
@MrKenny9151 3 жыл бұрын
This is a photo of a .9999 silver coin with something called a MilkSpot. Milk spots are believed to be caused by the cleaning process the Mint. The cleaning process involves some kind of detergent (not sure the type) but when some of this detergent is unintentionally left on and then baked in during the annealing process you get Milk spots. So that's why looking for the strongest acid or base that silver isn't affected by so as not to damage the coin itself and remove the milk spots.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Try using electrolysis to clean your silver coin. All tarnish will be removed instantly with electricity.
@BullProspecting
@BullProspecting 5 жыл бұрын
Or if you could make a video on how to make a rudimentary Distillery that would be awesome. I don't know if that can be done but if so that would be super helpful. I'm trying to do gold recovery from computers and I want to get set up professionally so everything is safe. Thank you so much for making this video because it is awesome! You are the man! And I did not know that about the latex gloves thank you for sharing!
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 5 жыл бұрын
If you have very limited lab experience. You may just want to purchase your nitric acid. Making nitric acid is very dangerous especially if you have limited experience with distilling. I wouldn't make your own still if you're going to use it for acids. You can get a decent glass distilling kit for $35 on eBay. A fun and easy way to learn how to distill is to make your own ethanol. (Drinking alcohol) lt's a good way to learn and it's not nearly as dangerous as hot acids.
@bigacorns69
@bigacorns69 Жыл бұрын
​@@philipbender956 in this case it may be important to distinguish the difference in ethanol, bought at a gas station and the ethanol in an alcoholic beverage.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 Жыл бұрын
@@bigacorns69 yes, the ethanol at the gas station. Is mixed with gasoline. I would call that denatured. The ethanol in beverages is safe to drink.
@vibeLia
@vibeLia 4 жыл бұрын
Can we used calcium nitrate directly substitution of potassium nitrate?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, any nitrate salt will work.
@b.wakegijig2625
@b.wakegijig2625 3 жыл бұрын
@PhilipBender say I just made Potassium Nitrate from Instant Cold Packs which was my Calcium Ammonium Nitrate then separated to only have Ammonium Nitrate which I then added Potassium from a No sodium Salt substitute. Will this work for this Nitric acid synthesis? If not what would you recommend to purify homemade ingredients? Such as the ones that later yield such a fine chemical like Nitric Acid.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, go on Amazon and purchase pure potassium nitrate crystals. You can get them laboratory and pyrotechnic grade. Much cheaper than making yourself.
@chanheosican6636
@chanheosican6636 Жыл бұрын
I plan to do this with calcium nitrate and 31% hydrochloric acid in reflux at 60 deg C.
@goldenscrab
@goldenscrab 3 жыл бұрын
can i use NPK fertilizer instead of the potassium nitrates? its a fertilizer that contains nitrogen phosphorus and potassium, but about 60% if that is potassium
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
You would need to extract the potassium nitrate 1st
@goldenscrab
@goldenscrab 3 жыл бұрын
@@philipbender956 using the same method you did at the begining of your video or there is another method for that?
@jayhanson2224
@jayhanson2224 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the video, but I some questions. What is typically the time it takes you to do the distillation process? How do you figure out the purity of your nitric acid? Could you maintain a 290 - 300 degree temp and extend your distillation time and produce more nrtic?
@GoldenAura32
@GoldenAura32 3 ай бұрын
You could measure the density. Also once the boiling point passes whatever temperature you target you will no longer distill anything.
@imranammo
@imranammo Жыл бұрын
Hi Excellent video Is this caustic soda
@kgchrome
@kgchrome 4 жыл бұрын
two quick questions... 1. are you removing the fore run and lower boiling temp distillate that comes over before you hit 135C, or are you keeping everything that comes over above a certain temperature? if not, wouldn't that result in a lower percentage final product? 2. putting the thermocouple in the glass thermometer well only gives you the temperature of the air in the well, not the vapour temperature. an alternative would be a thermometer adapter with a PTFE seal, and a PTFE coated thermocouple probe, or a regular glass thermometer. thanks for the video.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 4 жыл бұрын
I collected the entire run into one bottle. I started with fairly dry high-purity ingredients. The resulting nitric acid is over 95%. It will instantly ignite lab gloves. You will only make water down acid if you add water at the beginning of the reaction 😉
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had a nicer thermal couple 🤓 I'm just grateful that I'm not stuck using the alcohol thermometer that came with the set 😳
@williamrussellmorley
@williamrussellmorley 5 жыл бұрын
it was claimed saltpeter was added to our food in navy bootcamp 45 years ago ...
@antigen4
@antigen4 4 жыл бұрын
William Russell yes it was supposed to curb masturbation
@michaelsinaloense6449
@michaelsinaloense6449 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing short of amputation will stop an 18 yr old from doing the deed. Lol.
@LakshmiLakshmi-qy9uo
@LakshmiLakshmi-qy9uo 3 жыл бұрын
Super
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am happy you enjoyed the video. 🤗😀
@loneparvaiz3635
@loneparvaiz3635 5 жыл бұрын
Nice, Sir please tell me which chemical is used for smelting silver ore it will be your most kindness
@JimNichols
@JimNichols 3 жыл бұрын
you *smelt* silver ore with heat not chemistry.
@vibeLia
@vibeLia 5 жыл бұрын
How to make ammonium phosphate into ammonium nitrate?
@BobSmith-es5wc
@BobSmith-es5wc 3 жыл бұрын
thanks morgan freeman
@thepatriotrocker8001
@thepatriotrocker8001 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to refine the stump out to get pure sodium metabisulfite to use as a precipitant? Or would it just be easier and cheaper to buy the sodium metabisulfite
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 4 жыл бұрын
It is cheaper and easier just to purchase sodium nitrate from Amazon. I was demonstrating that it was easily extracted from the spectrum brand of stump remover. Only the spectrum brand contains sodium nitrate. Do not use stump remover containing sodium metabisulfite.
@thepatriotrocker8001
@thepatriotrocker8001 4 жыл бұрын
@@philipbender956 okay, thanks.
@mfrost1743
@mfrost1743 3 жыл бұрын
Hello man. Great video! I stumbled across this & learned alot! I'm wanting to try to make my own nitric acid as I currently have a bunch( fills up an entire 12x15 room) of computer & e scrap that I'm wanting to reclaim and refine PM's. I have some questions: 1) I'm wanting to use this single distribution simple distillation using 304 SS as the distillation tube( or as we call "the worm" instead of glass.( because I have an abundance of 304) glass filter flask as my pot, & a brown glass( lab grade that I haven't ordered yet) jar for the collection pot. Do you know of any problems this will cause? 2) After I reach 315 & stop distilling, can the sulfuric & nitrate in the still be reused or reclaimed to make future nitric acid? 3) couldn't I use the nitric to reclaim the pm from the scrap instead of AP? Seems like it would be much faster & probably produce more yield as efficiency would increase? This is a start, but can I please email you for more info?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you I am happy you enjoyed the video.🤗 Yes you can use a stainless steel still. Just be sure to ensure the purity of the steel by using a magnet as 304 SS should be non magnetic. Once you have reached 315゚ keep driving it till It stops producing. The remaining product will be mostly Sodium bi sulphite. Not worth your time or energy trying to scavenge any remaining acid. As far as using nitric acid instead of AP. It takes about one Litre of concentrated Nitric acid. Per pound of scrap. To separate gold foils.
@RandyManu-jk1yn
@RandyManu-jk1yn 2 жыл бұрын
M>Frost hallo what is the abbrevation MP and AP ?
@cadillac8597
@cadillac8597 2 жыл бұрын
@@RandyManu-jk1yn PM=Precious Metals AP= Acid/Peroxide (a process to refine precious metals)
@RandyManu-jk1yn
@RandyManu-jk1yn 2 жыл бұрын
@@cadillac8597 okei!!! Thanks 💡
@chemistryscuriosities
@chemistryscuriosities 5 жыл бұрын
It's an endothermic not exothermic reaction
@claytonmccormick622
@claytonmccormick622 3 жыл бұрын
once there was a harty scolor who is no more for what he thought was h2o was h2s04:=) i have noticed titanium camp cups and pots how hard would it be to convert one as a distillation rig as it would last a lot longer then borosilicate glassware as it would not crack from uneven heating or brake when dropped just wondering?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good idea.
@MmeHyraelle
@MmeHyraelle 3 жыл бұрын
What else can you use? Havent found any stump remover in canada.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Sodium metabi sulfide
@JoSeeFuss
@JoSeeFuss 2 жыл бұрын
Using such a higher concentration of nitric to dissolve silver, would you recommend making two containers of 95% nitric? In a proper bottle, how long can it be stored and in what temperatures? I live in the southern nevada desert
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 2 жыл бұрын
I have bottles of nitric that are 3 years old. It may be a good idea to keep it out of direct sunlight.
@joeestes8114
@joeestes8114 3 жыл бұрын
This is the expensive way! I can buy potassium nitrate for 3 dollars a pound on line and that stuff is over 8. Still awesome video!
@Ta2dwitetrash
@Ta2dwitetrash 3 жыл бұрын
Far supply store near me has 55 lb bags for 55 dollars. I was suprised i found it so cheap.
@YTcontentconnoisseur
@YTcontentconnoisseur 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great info! If you do completely dry and vac seal your KNO3, should you add some distilled water to the reaction flask?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
No. The less amount of water the better.
@grahampike488
@grahampike488 2 жыл бұрын
Can you put the nitrate mixture in a plastic container in the fridge with a lid on it?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, happy you enjoyed the video 🤗 😀
@johnh8615
@johnh8615 4 жыл бұрын
Is the orange colour a contaminant?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 4 жыл бұрын
Yes technically the orange color is a contaminant. The orange color is mostly nitrogen dioxide with a small amount of nitrogen trioxide. Both are caused by the decomposition of nitric acid. You can remove the orange color by bubbling dry air through the nitric acid. The orange color does not interfere with any metal refining reactions.
@GodJoker
@GodJoker 5 жыл бұрын
Did you add chlorine?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 5 жыл бұрын
No the only two ingredients use were potassium nitrate and sulfuric acid. The only thing that reminds me of chlorine is the smell of nitric acid. It has a slight chlorine odor.
@Butterflytaxidfw
@Butterflytaxidfw 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have to a glass beaker to do this? Can you use a metal pan?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 5 жыл бұрын
You can purify your potassium nitrate in any container. I used glass so you could see what was going on for the video. I normally use a stainless steel bowl to purify my potassium nitrate. As far as making and distilling nitric acid. I would definitely recommend using glass. Hot concentrated nitric and sulfuric acid are extremely corrosive.
@Butterflytaxidfw
@Butterflytaxidfw 5 жыл бұрын
@@philipbender956 I do not have a distiller I certainly do not have that expensive glassware. I looked to see if I could buy nitric acid but my friend told me that it is watched because of people making bombs. I want to use it for gold recovery
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 5 жыл бұрын
@@Butterflytaxidfw you can get a glass distillation apparatus off of eBay for $30. Just look up distilling kit. Also you can purchase 70% nitric acid off of eBay. the only reason the government would think you are making bombs with nitric acid is if you also purchase other bomb-making supplies and you start watching a bunch of videos on how to build a bomb.
@Butterflytaxidfw
@Butterflytaxidfw 5 жыл бұрын
@@philipbender956 Cool I will check it out, I just do not want the feds knocking on my door. Thanks
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 5 жыл бұрын
@@Butterflytaxidfw I completely understand I definitely wouldn't want to break the law either. I don't think the feds would look into you unless you were purchasing gallons of nitric acid. Then they may be more curious as to how you're disposing of it versus whether or not you're making bombs.
@hugostiglitz4452
@hugostiglitz4452 2 жыл бұрын
7:20 in a sense. its used to not let it degrade the joint grease causing a leak. thats why sulfuric acid is used bc it wont degrade it.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. You can also just let the system seal itself. Take your pic concentrated sulfuric acid or concentrated nitric acid. They're both pretty nasty when you touch them as you take apart the rig to clean it.
@hugostiglitz4452
@hugostiglitz4452 2 жыл бұрын
@@philipbender956 really???? ive never heard of doing that. ive always been told to grease with sulfuric with highly corrosive/basic distillations.
@rookthecook8675
@rookthecook8675 5 жыл бұрын
how much potassium nitrate was it?can i use fertillizer?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 5 жыл бұрын
I used 800 grams of potassium nitrate in this batch. A good rule to follow is to use equal amounts of potassium nitrate and sulfuric acid. If anything you should use a excess of sulfuric acid. You can use fertilizer that contains potassium nitrate but I would recommend extracting the potassium nitrate. If you just add sulfuric acid to fertilizer that contains potassium nitrate. The sulfuric acid and the nitric acid that you produce will react with the other chemicals present in the fertilizer. That will diminish your yield.
@emilaticha722
@emilaticha722 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, How many grams of KNO3 and Na2S2O5 should be added to water ?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 4 жыл бұрын
Add enough water so that you completely dissolve the kno3. But you want the solution to be saturated so use boiling water. As far as the na2s2o5 is concerned. That is useless for making nitric acid. Save it for precipitating your gold out of aqua regia.
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof 7 ай бұрын
0:50 but this is the one you want to use for dropping that gold once you get it into solution
@tipxking9944
@tipxking9944 3 жыл бұрын
Would it have been easier to dry the potassium nitrate chrystals in a oven with a slight heat for quicker drying process?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but it is a waste of energy.
@tipxking9944
@tipxking9944 3 жыл бұрын
@@philipbender956 that makes sense. Why is the nitric acid dense yellow at a higher concentration instead of clear? Do it contain sulphur contaminates?
@DFPercush
@DFPercush 2 жыл бұрын
@@tipxking9944 that's the brown NO2 gas, the reason it's called red fuming nitric acid. Very toxic. Above about 70% concentration it starts doing that, because some of the nitric acid decomposes into NO2. You can also dissolve NO2 back into water to produce weaker nitric acid.
@imsidetracted
@imsidetracted 4 жыл бұрын
When you make the potassium nitrate crystals do the excess additives pour off down the drain?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. What is left over is mostly the cutting agent. Potassium nitrate is extremely hydroscopic. It will pull moisture out of the air. I think they add something to prevent this from happening. And a small amount of dirt. Most likely from the facility where they store the potassium nitrate and mix the cutting agent. It should be safe to pour down the drain as this product is designed to be used outside in the environment. It is stump remover.
@imsidetracted
@imsidetracted 4 жыл бұрын
@@philipbender956 thanks for quick answer. I just crystalized some potassium nitrate from China and it was heavier going in than it was coming out. I think the stump remove is more pure. More expensive tho so crystallizing it is great for me.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 4 жыл бұрын
@@imsidetracted you can purchase pyrotechnic grade potassium nitrate off of Amazon. And it's cheaper than stump remover 😎
@imsidetracted
@imsidetracted 4 жыл бұрын
@@philipbender956 I did 10lbs. Weighed it then crystalized it and it lost weight.
@TT-nh7rx
@TT-nh7rx 3 жыл бұрын
What would be the best tubing to use to connect to a vacuum pump for making nitric acid?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
Vinyl seems to give the best resistance to nitric acid. I purchased mine from a store that had aquarium supplies.
@TT-nh7rx
@TT-nh7rx 3 жыл бұрын
@@philipbender956 cool, thanks for that. Finally... what kind of air vacuum pump do you use for this?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 3 жыл бұрын
@@TT-nh7rx I don't know, you would have to find one that was chemical resistant. You don't need to run this distillation under a vacuum. I just attached a vinyl hose to my vacuum take off adapter and put it directly into my fume hood.
@TT-nh7rx
@TT-nh7rx 3 жыл бұрын
@@philipbender956 Thanks for your help dude 👍🏻
@JimNichols
@JimNichols 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't "create a Peltier effect" as this effect is created by thermoelectric devices it creates an endothermic process as it reacts with copper in air. BUT the rest of the video was very good science!
@MadScientist267
@MadScientist267 2 жыл бұрын
That's ok "adding KNO3 to water will cause an exothermic reaction and the solution will start to cool down"...
@giansieger8687
@giansieger8687 2 жыл бұрын
Mad Scientific my thought exactly. Also he said hydroscopic… And why imperial temperature? I was thinking the whole time why he‘d heat to the BP of sulfuric acid. He coulda mentioned that at some point.
@mahdiarghafarian4031
@mahdiarghafarian4031 5 жыл бұрын
Did you titrate it which you said its 95% ? or by density ? if from density you should first remove no2 or freeze that to clear the acid
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 5 жыл бұрын
I deduced the purity from density it weighed out correctly. Also if you don't add any water and you dry your ingredients. You will always produce a very high percentage. Another trick is to add a little extra sulfuric acid to gobble up any water present.
@mahdiarghafarian4031
@mahdiarghafarian4031 5 жыл бұрын
Yes Your acid is RFNA due the dissolved excess NO2 which forms as N2O4 in that but it has less than 2 percent water
@Salty4eva
@Salty4eva 5 жыл бұрын
is this process significantly cheaper than buying Nitric Acid? Or are there other reasons for using this process?
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it is cheaper to make the acid. Also the acid I produce is much stronger than the store-bought. The best you can purchase online is 70% the acid I make is greater than 95%.
@firasabbis8056
@firasabbis8056 4 жыл бұрын
You can make HNO3. From. NaNo3+Hcl ----------> HNO3+NaCl
@metamorphicmuttmetall.l.c.6848
@metamorphicmuttmetall.l.c.6848 5 жыл бұрын
I believe the reaction at 2:10 is endothermic not exothermic.
@philipbender956
@philipbender956 5 жыл бұрын
Yes you are correct I was thinking endothermic but I said exothermic.
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