Making Records with Eric Valentine - Episode 20 - Wiring Trough and Big room Insulation

In this episode, I show the newly completed wiring trough and talk about race against before the insulation was put in the big room!

[@noahmirotta6503]

In love with the space already

[@antcall6779]

Looking amazing Eric!

[@recordman555]

This is just beyond excellent, Eric! I had to design a studio in college, but - man! - Seeing a studio built in real-life - that's amazing. Thank you for sharing your journey!

[@mattperreault3518]

This is getting very exciting!!

[@brko_studios]

Бог те помого у сваком Добру, тебе и све твоје, Христос Васкрсе!

[@caleykelly]

That large room is going to be incredible!

[@chrisbaseford]

The new studio looks incredible!!!!

[@stephenmowat4808]

This is so great. Discussing the wall thickness did make me think for s econd... gee I love being in Oz with the metric system

[@SMALLLEAKSSINKSHIPS]

I read somewhere Greg Wells make a comment about how he had talked with you about modifying his console for atmos and that ultimately you had decided it was too complicated to complete was he was asking... my question is what are the modifications that he was asking for and what kind of things are mixers wanting changed when mixing atmos with a console? I have an atmos room in my studio and I love it and have begun to realize having a console really might make things easier with how complex some of the routing can get. Thanks so much I love all these videos

[@BlackenedNL]

Its starting to look amazing

[@BazMcCee]

Hi Eric. Thanks for sharing your amazing space with us! One thing that caught my ear that I thought might not be a great idea was adding plywood on rez channel over drywall. From what I understand, doing that on both sides of the wall would create a "four leaf effect" negating the benefits of the resilient channel and possibly giving you undesirable resonance issues. If you haven't already added the plywood, do a quick search on "triple leaf effect" to possibly save you some aggravation. Also, having recently used resilient channel in one part of a room and isolation clips (genie clips) with hat channel in another, I much preferred the clips/hat channel combo. Much easier to install with less chance of installation error and they are definitely more sturdy with more weight capacity and apparently have more consistent/better low end response. The down side is they're more expensive and take up more space. Anyway, not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but thought it might be something to consider if you're not past the point of no return. Thanks again for all your amazing videos. I've learned SO much from them. Cheers.

[@mrwev]

Thank you for this. I had not heard of this before. It is to late to change at this point. It may not be an issue because my situation is slightly different than all of the examples I am seeing. All of the examples show added layers of the same material. My added layer is a different material with a very different resonance. That might help minimize it. We will see how the isolation performs. If it is an issue I could add some mass loaded vinyl to the outer layer and that would help a lot. Very interesting!

[@BazMcCee]

@@mrwev I think the issue arises from the two hard surfaces with the small air gap in between (half inch from rez) creating resonance, along with that resonance's relationship to the 3rd and/or 4th hard surfaces. It's really counter intuitive, but I've run into trying to soundproof window openings. I added a second window about 10 inches away from the existing window and it made a huge positive difference in sound isolation. I thought if I added a removable plywood baffle to the second window it would be amazing, because 2 good! 3 better, right? Wrong! Big low frequency coming through to the outside, essentially the same as having only one window in the low end. If you're able to add an absorbent layer to the gap between the drywall and plywood with some sort of insulation (sonopan/homosote or strips of pink fluffy) to absorb some of the resonance it might help? sonopan.com/retrofit-installations/ If you scroll down to "with resilient channel" I don't think sonopan is available in the U.S. but it's just a wood fibre board. Having said that... I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL ACOUSTICIAN!!!!! And I don't fully understand the science of it all. I just went down the google rabbit hole when I had that experience with the windows and when you mentioned your plan it immediately reminded me of it. I hope it all works out amazingly, but if there is a weird unexpected result, that would be my #1 suspect of weirdness creation.

[@JamieFoulds]

Eric! Thanks for introducing us to The Spencer Lee Band - The Kissing Tree. Holy HELL! Can we get a mix de-construction of that?

[@crankfar]

Did you just poke that spider!? ArararaghghghhH!

[@samsepiol7191]

Awesome stuff. I've loved following along with this series. Would you be able to talk about some of the angles you put in for the walls? I can't remember exactly what the measurement is, but I think you mentioned something like three feet of depth per 10 feet to avoid standing waves, and it may have been a guideline from Bill Putnam. How much did you plan all the layout of the angles?

[@johnvcougar]

Good question, that occurs to me every time Eric scans past those immense walls and I see the deflections. It looks like anywhere between 5-10 degrees. I would love to see more on the design of the spaces.

[@davewestner]

Awesome that you guys cut some tracks in there during construction

[@twitterjesus]

You are the goat , make some Valentine plug ins!

[@seanriley9045]

That spider was out to kill

[@bigkickleo]

Hah! Reminds me of an old Kids in The Hall short:"Revenge!!" 😅

[@SupertGTR]

This is very cool. Will you be doing radiant floor heating in that room?

[@OssianOtt]

What equipment did you use for the vocal recording in the space? Some mobile recording rig? Things are coming together nicely!

[@idrum.iproduce]

❤

[@nathanbulla1]

Best intro

[@johnvcougar]

Hey Eric! Can you talk to how you use such a cable trough? I’m assuming for cable drops, you’ll punch holes in the sides, maybe in groups, for where the cables breakout to reach the equipment?

[@CarstenGoeke]

I think the first sentence is great 😃✌🏻

[@cammfrank]

do you have any worries about water getting in/possible flooding?

[@RichBischoff]

Eric are you going to do a drumbrella in that space?

[@swaffstudios]

Will the finished (exposed) control room walls be the plywood and then just painted?

[@gregedenfield1080]

Q: are the "resilient Chanels" between the 5/8" and 1/2" sheet rock and then the 3/4" plywood mounted or glued directly to the 1/2" gypsum?????

[@pgraf]

Would you ever consider making a 4 or 8 channel version of just the high and low pass from the UTA eq?

[@mrwev]

A few folks have asked for that. Since we have a 500 series version of the EQ coming soonish, we would probably just do a 500 series module with the high and low pass filters :)

[@rocxNroll]

Episode 21: How i became the new Spider-Man

[@gregedenfield1080]

I noticed day light on the outer wall through the insulation of the control room...will this have sheet rock? and if so what thickness?

[@kniferideaudio]

are you worried of the ghosts of slaughtered cattle ruining takes?