Making Sense of Existence: Psychosis, Narcissism, or Nothingness

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Prof. Sam Vaknin

Prof. Sam Vaknin

Күн бұрын

Psychosis, Narcissism, Nothingness are the 3 choices we face when we try to make sense of existence and imbue reality with any meaning.
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@misternought5028
@misternought5028 4 жыл бұрын
I stink, therefore I am.
@Percent-be3cd
@Percent-be3cd 4 жыл бұрын
I smell you, therefore you are.
@torqueshock7236
@torqueshock7236 4 жыл бұрын
Don't I know you Mister Nought?
@maninhades
@maninhades 13 күн бұрын
@winter-i-i
@winter-i-i Жыл бұрын
"even God himself cannot escape the narcissist"! truer words have never been spoken.
@holdyourself7003
@holdyourself7003 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sam. Thank you for the time and dedication you put in to informing all of us in this knowledge you have beautifully acquired
@brendanbeirne2
@brendanbeirne2 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam, as a literature scholar, I'd love to see you do a whole video on a novel or author. Retrospectively reading literature through the lens of contemporary narcissism seems like a fascinating exercise.
@cakehead1
@cakehead1 4 жыл бұрын
I find your presentations very interesting... very helpful. Thank you. Helping me to make sense of whats going on for me. More accessible than any treatment I could be waiting for. Sincerely... thanks
@vaibhavdwivedi8860
@vaibhavdwivedi8860 4 жыл бұрын
A Poem on nothingness by great polish poet Czeslaw Milosz. Let us not talk philosophy, drop it, Jeanne. So many words, so much paper, who can stand it. I told you the truth about my distancing myself. I've stopped worrying about my misshapen life. It was no better and no worse than the usual human tragedies. For over thirty years we have been waging our dispute As we do now, on the island under the skies of the tropics. We flee a downpour, in an instant the bright sun again, And I grow dumb, dazzled by the emerald essence of the leaves. We submerge in foam at the line of the surf, We swim far, to where the horizon is a tangle of banana bush, With little windmills of palms. And I am under accusation: That I am not up to my oeuvre, That I do not demand enough from myself, As I could have learned from Karl Jaspers, That my scorn for the opinions of this age grows slack. I roll on a wave and look at white clouds. You are right, Jeanne, I don't know how to care about the salvation of my soul. Some are called, others manage as well as they can. I accept it, what has befallen me is just. I don't pretend to the dignity of a wise old age. Untranslatable into words, I chose my home in what is now, In things of this world, which exist and, for that reason, delight us: Nakedness of women on the beach, coppery cones of their breasts, Hibiscus, alamanda, a red lily, devouring With my eyes, lips, tongue, the guava juice, the juice of la prune de Cythère, Rum with ice and syrup, lianas-orchids In a rain forest, where trees stand on the stilts of their roots. Death, you say, mine and yours, closer and closer, We suffered and this poor earth was not enough. The purple-black earth of vegetable gardens Will be here, either looked at or not. The sea, as today, will breathe from its depths. Growing small, I disappear in the immense, more and more free.
@davidrodriguez-jx1dp
@davidrodriguez-jx1dp 4 жыл бұрын
Very difficult to accept there is nobody to accept, indeed. But I am more optimistic about the numbers my friend. John 1, speaks of the children of God, born of not their own will, but his. Do not project fundamental views on God in that sentence, as I know you are not the type to do such things, and you will know it was written to the remnant. The remnant is larger than 36, my intuition yells within me. Not because I need to believe it, as to feel secure in a better tomorrow. There exists a peace beyond understanding even in the worst of hells. But when nothingness is "Achieved", Will still operates through a man, but without the distractions of there being anything in particular to achieve. Paul mentioned, that just as a will does not go into effect until someone dies, so it be with our own will. The death of a self image, lets the fullness of will proceed from a vessel. NoTHINGness will be rule of tomorrow, for all THINGS are passing away, even now. I agree with all your sentiments, but the realm of enlightenment is surely beyond words, but when words are used correctly, they point back to realities unspoken. The nothingness is calling many, and as this world becomes more unstable in its own ability to take itself as real, more will come to an accurate knowledge of what being is. At least these are my current feelings. Peace, and Blessings, from this side of forever my friend. I am truly enjoying your content, even if there may be disagreements at some level. But that is part of being, is it not?
@melaniumom
@melaniumom 4 жыл бұрын
I was just having a discussion on the variations of passivity relative to the nature of reality and existence this morning with a friend. We'd love for you to expand on that in another video.
@JeanDoe89
@JeanDoe89 7 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@ishlabrooks3597
@ishlabrooks3597 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sam, this teaching is the answer I've been looking for .
@sophieg2899
@sophieg2899 4 жыл бұрын
Challenged and made me question certain things. Great content, thank you!
@aleksandragrabowska7223
@aleksandragrabowska7223 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your brightness and honesty ❤
@liveto1005
@liveto1005 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Sam! I have a question, how would one of these 36 enlightened individuals behave in the world? Do they even have opinions or jobs? Do they have friends? Do they just mope around all day with a blank expression on their face? Would they attempt to enlighten other people or would they see no point?
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 4 жыл бұрын
You are asking ME that? (laughing hard)
@sesilyberidze2639
@sesilyberidze2639 4 жыл бұрын
They probably live like shamans and gurus - fasting, meditating and sharing wisdom
@runwiththewind3281
@runwiththewind3281 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam
@christinasapphire5511
@christinasapphire5511 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing matters! This is the key to freedom. Suffering is proof you are alive.
@torqueshock7236
@torqueshock7236 4 жыл бұрын
There's nothing noble about suffering. People stupidly romanticize it.
@aesthirtruth
@aesthirtruth 4 жыл бұрын
Most people choose psychosis. Many people choose narcissism. Very few choose nothingness. These are not the only 3 choices, though. I choose a solution you missed, Sam. I choose uncertainty. #mykindofchurch
@vaibhavdwivedi8860
@vaibhavdwivedi8860 4 жыл бұрын
59:30 This man , profoundly intellectual. Any Peterson fan , this is what knowledge is , knowing that nothingness is everything. Share it with those lost in psychosis of Peterson and many self style gurus.
@chriskarabinas2323
@chriskarabinas2323 4 жыл бұрын
keep it comming, thanks and take care
@mishaellegorow7731
@mishaellegorow7731 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Sam, if Nothingness is all there's, then only the 3d solution is TRUE, and the other two do not apply in the absence of anyone or anything to apply to. If it is false, then indeed the 36 strong-minded can exist being someone PRETENDING being no-one and wearing the mask of nothingness to render themselves invisible to the dangers of existence. And we have enough pretense in the world to easily imagine there are 36 mln. of such "no-ones" on the face of the globe.
@vincentwilliams8685
@vincentwilliams8685 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent again but I'm a little confused...in some ways the narcissists existence is one of chaos and co-depemdancy and hive mind and yet they don't suffer? Sometimes they sound perfectly happy at others not so? Being unable to feel emotions is a curse or a blessing? The wounded child suffered but disappeared so there's no need to pity the narcissist as they don't exist?
@vincentwilliams8685
@vincentwilliams8685 4 жыл бұрын
@@Johannastairwellstudio very much so.
@mendi1122
@mendi1122 4 жыл бұрын
If you are nothing, what is the pain that you feel, the sounds that you hear, the images that you see? What do you have to say about mind-body problem?
@ebdavies100
@ebdavies100 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused about 'nothingness' (so I guess I'm not one of the 36 who can understand and accept it). I understand that there is (probably) no meaning in the universe (but what creatures manufacture) but how is there really nothing in the universe? Can any human being really understand nothing? When Vaknin says that the only thing we can be sure of is that we are thinking, that is accepting there is something (how does he know that it is the individual that is thinking?). So that's one something Vaknin seems to think there is when I am not sure. If you can answer all this then you're probably God.
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 4 жыл бұрын
Not Vaknin. Descartes. And I didn't understand most of what you wrote. I hope you did.
@ebdavies100
@ebdavies100 4 жыл бұрын
@@samvaknin No, I think only God would understand that!
@kathalloran5828
@kathalloran5828 4 жыл бұрын
@@ebdavies100 I think I understood it, I'm very sure I'm not God.
@ebdavies100
@ebdavies100 4 жыл бұрын
@@kathalloran5828 But are you sure you're sure about that? And I'm sure God would actually be modest as are you!
@Nexus2Eden
@Nexus2Eden 4 жыл бұрын
The point he was making is that in order for ‘you’ to accept nothingness the ‘you’ (identity) must exists first. Which is something. The ‘nothing’ he is referring to in the universe is that if you can wrap your head around how insignificant our entire solar system is - your existence, our existence, is pointless and practically didn’t even happen. Basically you are a self aware robot with no real purpose or importance to any thing. If that helps.
@albaal2138
@albaal2138 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam How can a narcissist cope with a disability?
@solveigrose5537
@solveigrose5537 4 жыл бұрын
This was...insightful 🤪🌹
@josephdavis3157
@josephdavis3157 4 жыл бұрын
How does the narc heal / change ?
@meagenjaeger5003
@meagenjaeger5003 4 жыл бұрын
I'm at 23:00, amazing. A lot to think about.
@vaibhavdwivedi8860
@vaibhavdwivedi8860 4 жыл бұрын
Wow sir , wow every word you say. I love you.❤
@openyourmind888
@openyourmind888 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam. Really enjoyed your covid break downs you did months ago. Would love to here your take on where we are at in this point. I check vaknin musings often because I know the book burners were after you. lol.
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 4 жыл бұрын
We had committed every conceivable mistake. Now the pandemic is real and will last 2-3 years at least.
@openyourmind888
@openyourmind888 4 жыл бұрын
@@samvaknin I'm guessing that would mean we slowed the spread enough to allow for prolonging of pandemic & more mutations?
@milosander5249
@milosander5249 4 жыл бұрын
Riveting 👏👏👏👏💯
@beverlygilson4590
@beverlygilson4590 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing is something .
@slicphone
@slicphone 4 жыл бұрын
If narcissism is defined by a specific psychological process that happens in infanthood (according to you) and ONLY defined as such, what does it mean to "choose" narcissism in this discussion?
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 4 жыл бұрын
The narcissist CHOOSES to behave as a narcissist. A pedophile can CHOOSE to NOT have sex with children. a narcissist can CHOOSE to not be a jerk.
@agingchill9012
@agingchill9012 4 жыл бұрын
All tangled conjurations of the survival instinct(?)
@luckymaiskey2562
@luckymaiskey2562 2 жыл бұрын
Sam, how to stop creating shared fantasies and how to stay in nothingness...
@vaibhavdwivedi8860
@vaibhavdwivedi8860 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Sam , I would really like to know your views on self style clinical psychologist Jordan B Peterson. He gives narcissistic vibes to me as he denounces atheism and existence of morality beyond the theist idea of morality. He claims to be a big player in psychology, but I find him full of shit. To be honest I find you far more intellectual than any psychologist I've ever come across here on KZbin , the way you explain and in depth you cover all the aspects of a topic is very thought provoking and interesting. I really love your work and definitely want you to go on one on one with that pseudo intellect Jordan B Peterson as Zizek did. I bet you'll reveal his shallow knowledge of the subject and his narcissism.
@vaibhavdwivedi8860
@vaibhavdwivedi8860 4 жыл бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@augustkaz1701
@augustkaz1701 4 жыл бұрын
Girlfriend...tell me about it!
@fernandocaraballocintron1436
@fernandocaraballocintron1436 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. But also the can be said about atheism. The nothingless that brougt out the existence of all arganise and meningful things out of nothing.
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