Making The Best Speaker Cable For Money, How To DIY HiFi Cables

[@Jaryd003]

I’ve just finished making my Mogami w3104 cable and it’s magical 😍 BUY IT !

[@kantinansriprasert5999]

After​ watching this video. I bought the Mogami w3104 with CMC pure copper banana plug and replace my old cable, the Van Den hul. It's so much difference. This new Mogami make me feel the hi quality​ cable in reasonable​ price. Thank you so much.

[@kantinansriprasert5999]

@@itsgiodudez I'm in Thailand, there is some company import from Japan to sell here. The CMC is a good banana​ plug​ too. So if you in The USA just​ find the cable in Part Express.

[@donaldmackenzie2686]

According to Audioholics, and I agree with them, the cable size (awg) you are using is an excellent choice for stereo speakers. I am pretty sure the president of Audioholics is an electrical engineer that has worked in communications so he understands how frequency affects cables. They have done different youtube videos on the subject of speaker cables and snake oil in the audio cable industry. Personally I think your speaker cables turned out great and are first class. Well done.

[@England3942]

Thank you sir for making this video! Often times cables that look like these are sold for hundreds if not thousands of dollars, yet are likely made in a similar method to what you have shown. I look forward to trying this myself!

[@zeusodin581]

I made these cables yesterday. Amazing! They replaced a pair of $2k WireWorld Eclipse 8 cables. I. Am. So. Impressed! Thank you so much. I recommend the locking banana plugs as regular bananas sometimes are too tight and eventually break at some point. Could you create a video on making 3 x 12 AWG (or larger) XLR cables? Amazing work. Thank you again.

[@Tharbamar]

Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@PhyrexJ]

You bought wires for 2k? Lol

[@jimbodee4043]

The pure richness of the thumbnail made watch this video and now I want to create my own speaker cables.

[@moniqueduchossois1958]

bidon

[@filipandre2927]

That cable could power a whole house, very nice!

[@Marcel1979K]

Yes and it is completely useless.

[@beslemeto]

@@Marcel1979K Why useless?

[@Blindpulitzer11]

@@Marcel1979K useless nah, way overkill yes

[@Marcel1979K]

@@Blindpulitzer11 they are useless

[@larryschwartz9883]

Thank for the speaker wire info. I made a pair of the Canare’s and they sound superb to anything else I have ever made.

[@michaelbyrne8860]

Thank you for the video! I'm in the process of reforming & conning some old vintage speakers and adding vintage amplifiers & tuners systems and I am now realizing it's all for nothing if you don't have quality speaker wire Cables! I'm embarrassed about the spliced willy nilly wiring I do use! That was a great! no wait! a Fantastic video showing how to make a quality speaker jacks & speaker cables thank Sinn Fein Byrne

[@Telemed911]

I am going to build my own cable after looking at speaker cables in the $2 - $4K range (too much dough). BTW, for those who suggest that this is too much for a home stereo system, it all depends on the system. If one is using 1 kW+ power amplifiers and have clean and/or well-conditioned source power, these will be great and are not overkill. Excellent video!

[@seanevanslovesdrums]

It is likely to be overkill, it depends on what the impedance is and cable length really. It would have to be a crazy long length for it not to be overkill for most 8 Ohm runs.

[@Peter_van_bjork]

Viborg banana is great, can take really thick cables. Good screw mounts with hex screws - just love it 👌 Monoaudio on the other hand, the spring is not pure copper. It sticks to a magnet, which shows that it’s not pure copper. Don't know how much of a difference it makes. But it’s a no for me.

[@theodore_papacostas_1967]

I agree Mogami cables are the best for many applications - very good & honest - real value for money. One of the best regardless of price - which is relatively cheap. ... However, I don't like that you are connecting the leads of the 2-2 speaker cables in the 1-2, 3-4 method. If you use the 1-3 (starquad) configuration you get a much lower capacitance - on an average a little over 21% reduction on capacitance from 100Hz to 100kHz. Try it. You can easily swap them. You should use Orange+Brown and Yellow+Red. You will see an improvement. Thanks for all the great videos.

[@Tharbamar]

I will try that, thanks

[@Cestmoi50]

what if you want to use it as bi-wire? how would you combine?

[@dell177]

i made a set of these a few years backusing canare 4s14 and am very happy with them. The4s14 resulys on 2ea #11's while the paired #12's will result in a #9 wire.

[@Belas_Photography]

Thanks for your highly informative video. I especially appreciated the pacing of the information and detailed description of each step.

[@mikerieck306]

15:33 is funny. Thanks for the vid and info. Just ordered cable from Redco today and it will be here tomorrow as I live in Massachusetts (Redco in Connecticut). I bought the W 2921 14 gauge.....Redco was the only one to have that cable by the foot. Two years later these cables are working very well. Very satisfying to build your own cable. I'm going to look at your interconnect cable vid now.

[@chanvu1077]

I follow your DIY cables and it turn out so great. I can hear the clarity of all range, can hear the missing instruments. Waiting a week for the cable breakin time. Hope it will sound better

[@chanvu1077]

After 4 weeks of trying this cables, the sound isstill amazing. I made another 10’ lenght cables and they are backup cables for me

[@agylub]

I use 0.8mm solid silver slipped through medical Teflon tubing. Surprisingly cheap and because it’s shiny it’s great for the higher frequencies

[@wayneklyne3073]

Hi just finished my Mogami W3104 8'x 2=16 ' Cost approximately $11 ca. per ft.all in, now just have to break them in cant wait, to hear them!!

[@thomasgammelby9309]

Funny how you believe in cable "break in" I'm guessing that you bought Mogami because, as the video claims, you can get high end hifi cable for low-fi price by DIY. But cable burn-in is something these so called snake oil selling audiophile cable companies introduced. Just saying if they are right about cables having burn in, might they know other stuff that is critical to audio cable design. Just saying... Makes you think.

[@asifhasnain6852]

Thank you for this! I made this cable and have installed it on my system. These sound more transparent than a set of PS Audio cables that I had been using for a decade. And they are really easy to handle due to flexibility. Thanks a lot!

[@MarkoVukovic0]

Great video, thank you! That's some serious cable! I would suggest also using adhesive heat shrink, then it will never come loose.

[@IliyaOsnovikov]

I would rather connect together in pairs the opposite wires (yellow-red and orange-brown). In that case you would get the so-called star-quad configuration often used in microphone cables to make them more noise resistant. Also star-quad is used by Audio Quest in many of it's speaker cables.

[@Tharbamar]

These cables are starquad.

[@gz4058]

What's the difference as long as you keep the cable colors consistent???.

[@IliyaOsnovikov]

@@gz4058 Please Read in Wikipedia what is the so-called Star-Quad cable configuration.

[@gz4058]

@@IliyaOsnovikov I don't know this particular cable and colors but you are suggesting that the pairs that the OP used aren't diametrically opposed to each other?

[@IliyaOsnovikov]

@@gz4058Yes.

[@saml2879]

very nice work....these cables are designed for stage/concert applications, they are bomb proof :)

[@centinel6505]

Excellent tutorial thank you! I just made my own using 3103 cable. The sound opened and the bass got much clearer. Much cleaner sound

[@phoebus]

Good to hear it, I have some Mogami 3103 cable on the way. I been testing different cables for months and the best sounding one I found was the Mogami 3082 cables. They are very neutral and natural sounding but the wire gauge is little thin for my set up, so decided to go with the Mogami 3103. BTW the worst sounding speaker cables I tried were the Canare 4S11's. They had way too much midrange. People say they settle down after many hundreds of hours but I played them close to 200 hours and they still sounded the same, not willing to wait anymore. The Mogami 3082's also sounded like they had too much midrange at first too but they didn't take long to start sounding more full and after about 150 hours sounded great. I had the 3103's pre burned in. Any updates on your Mogami 3103 cables?

[@centinel8944]

3103 is a great cable. You will enjoy it for sure. Here is my experience: It may sound a bit bright, but in a nice way and depending on your gear. Low bass is also enhanced, not so much the mid bass, and depending on the type of music or the recording it can be a good thing or not. With my EL34 bulb amp and tower speakers is great, I am very pleased with them. So balanced and coherent. Great soundstage and tridimensionality. With my solid state amp and bookshelf speakers, as I said, depends on the type of music, recording,etc. With some recordings the highs may sound forward and disconnected from the mids, sometimes feels compressed. With some other recordings the sound is very refined that makes me crank up the volume... addictive. That has been my experience, it’s worth trying, it’s a very very good cable.

[@phoebus]

@@centinel8944 Just got the Mogami 3103 cables today and have been listening to them with a variety of music and I've got to say I'm liking them a lot. I like a little brighter presentation, brings my 20 year old pair of DIY Dynaudio speakers alive. They are a 3 way design so already have a lot of detail the midrange and seem to be working just perfectly with the Mogami 3103 cables. The speakers are full range, but I'm using them as big satellites to go with a pair of Dynaudio 30w100 subs in stereo. In my experimenting I tried Supra Classic 6, they had a excellent soundstage and detail and were very easy to listen to but were too heavy on the bass and mid-bass. Also tried the Canare 4S11 as a I mentioned, tried the Mogami 3082 which are nice, but a little lacking in midrange energy, some Audio Quest type 6 wires which were OK, but I didn't find them to be all that musical and many other types of wire I had collected over the years, but played that old collection for about two minutes each and said nope. The Mogami 3103 cables seem to fall right about in the middle of Mogami 3082 wire that was a little too dark in the midrange and the Canare 4S11 that are too bright in the midrange and so far 3103 Mogami's seem to be the Goldilocks of speaker cables, just right. I considered the 3104 wire but was worried being basically the same design that they might sound like the Canare 4S11 (maybe somebody could comment on that) and besides 4mm wire although Mogami lists it as 12 gauge is really much closer to 11 gauge and is plenty thick enough for my relatively short run. I did get the 3103's pre burned and froze. From my experience wires do "burn in" and no it's not just me getting used to the sound. I ran the Canares for almost 200 hours and never heard a change, but with Supra and the Mogami 3082's I did, the Audio Quest had already been used for years so they were already fully burned in. I don't know about the Cryo thing, but it was part of the deal and couldn't hurt, so why not.

[@tangomarty]

@@phoebus could you provide the measurement of the wraps, braiding, that correspond to what was used in this video when using the mogami 3103 instead? thanks.

[@SergioAlvarez-lu6wv]

This is a great concept for a video series. I hope you continue as it is very insightful.

[@keithandersen6798]

The table @ :38 shows the capacitance when pairing wires #1 and #3 together vs #1 and #2. Pairing 1 and 3 has a lower capacitance then 1 and 2. In between those pairs is a cord/insulation that is not shown in the illustration @ :38. You just see a gap. That cord/insulation separates pairs 1&3 and 2&4 allowing a lower capacitance. So pair Brown & Orange, and Red and Yellow. Will this make a difference to your ear? He made mention that there is no difference in sound and I believe him because he's making short cables. Thank you for your DIY videos. Thinking of making a pair for the fun of it.

[@Cestmoi50]

what if you want to use it as bi-wire? how would you combine?

[@daeladub]

I'm entry level (y rx-v685 pushing polk t-series on 12g unshielded wires) but as I upgrade I want to diy where I can. This video is exactly what I needed. Thanks

[@chriswithall2518]

Hi why did you not wire it star-quad i.e. 1-3 and 2-4 as the pairs and get the benefits of lower capacitance and inductance?

[@spkaddict8675]

Hello, I'm very new to youtube so I'm sure I'm doing this all wrong. I just wanted to say thank you for the videos ! The "how to" videos are the best. I've built the Mogami W3104 Spk Cables that you taught me how to make ( they sound OUTSTANDING) & I've built the Oyaide Black Mamba Power Cable that you showed me . The power cable very much improved the bass of my system ! I can't wait to build something else I learn from you ! Your the BEST & your a Giants fan as well !

[@everettspain2739]

Two weeks into listening to my DIY 3104s and I must say I'm very impressed. I'm a huge 2 channel music guy and I love listening to my Martin Logans ESL X and dual 1100X. In my opinion the floor standing speaker list is VERY SHORT when comparing however they are also good revealing weaknesses in your system. The first 100hrs or so listening, the 3104s were muddy, poor sound stage, and subpar bass. Now into nearly 300hrs of signal passing through, it sounds like I've installed another set of cables. The center stage is wide but tight enough to pick out where each artist is onstage. I listened to some older music that I'm familiar with the detail and it was like WOW....hearing voice definition, breathing I haven't heard and the guitarist actually plucking the strings. I can continue writing but let me just say, as an audio/video enthusiasts, I've always "chased the dragon" trying to get the best sound possible from whichever system I had...and sometimes spending considerably more than putting the Mogami 3104s together. These by far are the best sounding cables I've listened to (in my system) for the money. Ended up making 2 pairs of 8' cables to bi-amp my speakers. Wish I could share a pick of the finished cables.

[@tupuhumuhumunukunukuapuaa3093]

I almost reacted like "300hrs? You're bullsh!tt!n", then I remembered that to a lesser extent, a run of Audioquest speaker cable in my system took a while to settle in. My wife and I noticed it on some slack key guitar music about two months after I installed them. I wasn't running music all day long to break them in like I normally do with new components. Coherence was mainly the "issue". Some things like distortion, you can't get used to. So, I don't entirely buy the "you just get used to the sound" argument when it comes to break-in (it's a real thing folks). So, yeah, I'm going to try this build out, what the heck. I might even do two pairs and see if bi-wiring makes a difference. If it doesn't, it'll just look like it is doing something? :) I'm excited either way. Tekton Moab, PS Audio M700, Gustard A26, PS Audio P3, AudioQuest whatever XLR and speaker wire.

[@guyboisvert66]

There's no "break in" for cables dude...

[@MrWkendwarrior]

Like your easy explanations....true DIYers need patient teachers with an attention to process, detail, materials and required time...to make an outstanding product.....Cables are pro grade in function and quality of build, a pleasure to look at and listen too....please do more DIY videos, maybe interconnects next?

[@Tharbamar]

Yes I will be making a few more DIY cables, Thank you.

[@garykarczewski6678]

Like this choice of cables and build. Nice job! I am ordering the wire and other pieces to make my own new high end quality cables for my speakers!

[@davidwiley6165]

Great job sir! I really like the extra effort on the nylon jacket and heat shrink tubing. Personally I made four 10 gauge banana plug wires to bi-amp my front floor standing B&W. After seeing your video I need to step up my game. Now I want to add nylon sheathing and heat shrinking tubing to my cables. Thank you for the how to

[@Vidar.m]

Whats the use of that giant cable when the wires inside the speakers are thin as hair

[@agx502]

KInd thanks for your helpful video, I have ordered the plugs and some of Mogami W3104 from a pro-audio shop. Excellent video notes also, with a bill of materials, and all the relevant links, awesome work. I am very grateful for your help !!!!!

[@angelmelo350]

Thanks for showing us that idea in speaker cables DIY, I liked it, and I provably would try it too

[@fehllyy]

If you want the sleeving to be taught and not as loose on the cable, you can melt the ends of it to the insulation in conjunction with the heat shrink, sleeved custom PSU cable tutorials are a great guide

[@williamholsey]

As a electrician, cutting into a sheath like they damaged the conductors, your can use aS/O cord stripper to strip that without damaging the wires inside.

[@newsboyaudio]

I really like the cloth sheeting on it. I'm thinking of adding that to mine. It's really cool to have a thick wire, but I find the wire doesn't really matter. Outside of given the idea that they're good. I know some people feel it makes their sound better. So the confidence thicker wire gives is nice. Also, I love how a tick wire looks and feels. You did a great job.

[@ardalay88]

Great tutorial! But you didn't use the star quad wiring method so you don't get star quad benefit. Is it intentional? You need to connect Red-Yellow to +, Brown-Orange to - to make star quad work. It is useful to mention. Kind regards.

[@ahlbergmagnus]

If you use this cable for bi-wire, will you loose the star quad benfit?

[@talisman5150]

Just built my own today according to your specs, thanks for the template video 💪👌

[@Tharbamar]

Awesome!

[@optimusvader7823]

WELL DONE , THANK YOU FOR SHOWING US HOW TO DO A GREAT REFERENCE CABLE FOR A FRACTION OF THE PRICE OF OTHERS ( COMPARE TO KIMBER KABLE ) .

[@pmAdministrator]

Dawg, you look a little crazy, if you keep writing all caps like this.

[@skunk12]

@@pmAdministrator but ALL CAPS means its TRUE!

[@blackknight7017]

@@pmAdministrator ...WHAT'S CRAZY ABOUT ALL CAPS...YOU ARE THE LEMMING....CONFORMING TO THE CROWD

[@steve121758]

@@pmAdministrator looks fine to me

[@carlubambi5541]

I use 12/3 cabtire SOOW I use the green ground and connect it to the common ground of the amplifier at one end only and to one copper bus .the speaker ends are the same only I cut the ground wire flush to the cabtire .#12 SOOW is capable of carrying 18 amps at 600V .Using 12 /4 like you have done in SOOW is much cheaper than that cable .And you will be able to deliver 36 amps of current

[@lupavalo2000]

Hi I can't find the banana plugs. I need to know which others banana will fit this thick cables. Any help will be appreciated.

[@frederf69]

Thanks for this video. This what someone intended youtube for 😎👍

[@De132an]

To keep the surface of the copper strands from tarnishing which can have an effect on signal transference over time, maybe I would suggest the use of solder for an airtight connection. Soldering is a simple thing that most will be able to do correctly with little practice. Or at least have your copper ends tinned.

[@Tharbamar]

Thanks for suggestions, For that issue I do annual cleaning of all my Audio cables and components, I’ve been doing that every year for last 20 years. It’s good old habit I learned growing up in pro studio, thanks

[@johnsweda2999]

I don't think so use high-grade silver yes not silver solder, but there should be no issues tarnishing his put shrink wrap should prevent any air getting to the Bare metal you could smear them with oil like 3 in 1 would prevent tarnishing

[@De132an]

John sweda , sure use high grade silver whatever you can afford to solder with.

[@allankvist6741]

@@Tharbamar Yes cleaning connections would be a good candidate for an educative video. Also using fluid electricians tape after tightening or soldering would probably be optimal. Seals it much better from air and moist

[@JyrkiKoivisto565]

how do you clean them...video please @@Tharbamar

[@a.vonende7885]

Great cable. Thanks for the tutorial. I just finished building a pair and the soundquality is very good

[@lupavalo2000]

Which banana plugs do you used it? I can't find the one he recommended for this thick cables.

[@a.vonende7885]

@@lupavalo2000 KÁCSA® AUDIO BPGOLD TUBE BFA

[@isettech]

There are 4 main physical and mechanical properties that all need addressed for "High Quality" speaker cables. 1 Resistance (not nominal impedance). This affects the ability of the amp to deliver power and provide damping to the speaker. Resistance is related to material, and length. "skin effect" is a non issue at audio frequencies but is a radio frequency property. Shorter is better. Larger is better. 2 Capacitance. This affects the current drawn by the cable to charge the space between conductors when voltage is applied. This is a per unit of length, conductor diameter, and insulation material in regards to it's dielectric constant. Shorter is better. Smaller conductors is better. Low dielectric constant insulation is better. 3 Inductance. Inductance is the inverse of capacitance. It is the expanding magnetic field around a conductor as current flows. This is a per unit of length factor only. Resistance and insulation do not affect this. 4 Dielectric absorption. This is the heating of the dielectric material as it absorbs energy from the changing electric field. Low loss is better. Shorter is better. Conclusions.. A long cable is bad for a complex impedance of the speaker. The best cable is smaller and bigger at the same time as big is bad for capacitance and small is bad for resistance. The ratio of capacitance and inductance produces a cable characteristic impedance. When signal into and out of a cable matches the impedance of the cable, the problems of inductance and capacitance on opposite vector directions cancel and the cable can pass high frequencies with low loss into a restrictive load. Unfortunately a speaker is not a resistivity load and has a complex impedance curve. Making a 8 ohm impedance cable would be physically huge due to the size of the capacitance needed. This is why your TV cable is 75 ohm, your network cable is 110 ohm, and your DMX cable is 120 ohm. To use "short" speaker cables, much of the industry is moving to powered speakers and amp racks at the speakers instead of the sound booth. The signal is sent on several hundred feet of line cable which is about 200 ohm and with a resistive load instead of a complex speaker impedance. Loss is negligible at the entire audio frequency range. Balanced XLR signals have very high common mode noise rejection so hum pickup and other electrical noise is rarely an issue in a commercial sound setup. Not listed above is the physical properties. Solid vs stranded, physical size, appearance, etc. For those using lamp cable or house wire for speaker cables, they handle the voltage and power just fine, but may have issues in longer runs with the insulation and dielectric absorption. This can be compensated for as the loss is greater at higher frequencies, so it is "fixed with the EQ. Disclaimer. I am an engineering electronics technician with background in radio and television broadcast.

[@nucleon4499]

this needs to be pinned

[@brandonlamondin6228]

the levels you are talking about are absolutely inaudible to the human ear... so whats the point bud?

[@isettech]

@@brandonlamondin6228 This is the premium Audiophiles pay for. I mentioned it as a study in physics for the perfectionists to realize the best speaker cable is just a compromise at best. It is very true the differences in short cables are very difficult to measure, but do affect long cables over 100 feet. The take away is short cable is the best speaker cable. This length issue with cable is not lost in the commercial realm. Big heavy speaker cables are giving way to either powered speakers, or amp racks placed on or under the stage near speakers as it does affect the sound. Controlled impedance balanced shielded line level signal is then sent to the powered speakers or power amps near the speakers. Days of 100 foot speaker cables are mostly history in commercial audio. The lower resistance of short cable impacts the ability for an amp to damp unwanted cone movement in a big way. Damping factor is the inverse of resistance. An amp such as my QSC with a damping factor over 100, gives an effective output impedance of 0.001 ohms for damping cone movement. A 14AWG speaker cable of 100 feet has a 100 degree F resistance of 0.2525 each way, which changes the damping factor from 100 to about 2 which considerably changes the sound. These are real world numbers if you wish to do the math. Look up copper wire tables and find the resistance per 1,000 feet and scale to 100 feet X2 for round trip. Look up the damping factor of your amp in the specifications. Damping factor is the inverse of the effective active output impedance or ability to stop unwanted come movement. In a living room with each speaker only 5 feet away, this is minimal. The best speaker cable is SHORT.

[@nucleon4499]

@@brandonlamondin6228 They really aren't inaudible. If you cant hear the difference a good cable makes, then you either don't have a good enough setup or you need your hearing checked.

[@ВладимирПутин-е7м]

I love your response and the explanations you gave. What would make this even better is explanation and examples of application for us 'amateurs' to learn from you information when we try and build our own speaker cables. Thank you for sharing. EDIT: @ Isettech: Excellent reply to ChildOfGod. But, can you please explain the practical application of your information to the manufacture of DIY speaker cables (and cables to connect PreAmps to a PowerAmp, which is why I am here researching the manufacture of my own cables. I need to manufacture an RCA - Mono 6.5 TS connector to connect the sound card in my computer (ASUS Xonar STX) to a Phonic MAX 1600 to power my Dali Concept speakers. Thank you. EDIT: Bottom line is shorter the better and thickest guage I can get away with, with the shield of the RCA wired into Neutral at the P.A. end in order to 'ground out' the EMR back into the return path to the Xonar..? Is this correct? Thank you.

[@lighthouse7i]

After stripping the outer insulation off, I think you're supposed to twist the two leads together before installing the banana plugs.Then you can wrap them in braided sleeving. This helps keep them from becoming an antenna, so to speak.

[@Tharbamar]

Again and again this kind of comment come up in this video. I will answer this for last time, it won't become antenna or act like one. I've been using these cables in Pro and Home environments for last 15 years without having any issue.

[@worms141414]

I warmly welcome. Thank you very much for this guide. I have already ordered all the pieces of the puzzle. Waiting for them to reach me. I am very curious how this cable will fall out against the background of Nordost Red Dawn LS. I'll let you know how. Happy New Year.

[@JKadison]

Great job, looks like a wonderful cable at a reasonable price!

[@adamnowak8876]

6AWg cable for speaker.. Are you connecting speakers directly to the power plant?

[@bremms1]

Canare 4S11 is good even lower priced option. Star quad is engineered specifically for this application.

[@Tharbamar]

It's a good option, kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZ-vdquYrq59qtE

[@jameslester6785]

I have done A/B testing with different types of plugs. Brass is a no go. I could definitely hear a difference between brass and copper. So, if you have a choice use copper connectors, preferably copper spades.

[@Lulrii]

James Lester maybe bare wire without any spades or plugs is better than any of them?

[@jameslester6785]

@@Lulrii Absolutely.

[@michaela.6698]

Awesome video! I have been watching your channel for a while now and thoroughly enjoy all of your videos. Thank you for sharing this great DIY on some great looking cables. I’m looking forward to making some very soon. Currently I’m using Blue Jean cables and I’m going to do some A/B testing. Good job buddy!

[@gregorypellar6236]

I recently went to Guitar Center and picked up a Mogami mic cable for XLR connections and was blown away with the quality of sound for the money. Easily comparable to cables costing 10 times as much.

[@yttean98]

Last you for a very very long time, my guess is that after a year or two you would want to upgrade. You see your ear is very clever it soon gets sick/tired of the sound that comes out of your speakers then you want to upgrade. This applies to right through all your hi-fi equipment.

[@allankvist6741]

Professionals use plain oxygen-free copper. Professional sales people prefer silver, gold or more expensive materials. Apart from that I really like your videos. I like your cable also☺

[@Jaryd003]

Just ordered 10m of Mogami w3104 bargain of a price 💪🏼💪🏼

[@frumfonselderlotgerade423]

Hello! Can you make a comparison between your reference speaker cables from Mogami and a regular H07RN-F 4x4mm2 copper powercable for 2 or 3 EUR each meter? I believe that you won't find huge differences. Okay, the color code on the single wires.... ;-)

[@OrganNLou]

Excellent! I also suggest Supra cables from Sweden which are VERY low capacitance. I tinned the endings with Cardas silver solder and I will use Rhodium pins on the end. The Supra is affordable and VERY good quality.

[@CH-py8zv]

Good video, but i was curious a few years back about wire size for speakers. I tested this theory about wire size so i went out and bought some 16, 14, 12, and 10 gauge wire. I tested these different size wire's on my home stereo and i couldn't hear any difference in the sound eminating from my speakers. I also went out and bought some lamp cord and wired it to my stereo speakers and guess what, i still could not hear any difference in the sound quality. So my question to all of you viewers is it possible that some people can hear sutlle differences in sound quality.

[@ryohnosuker]

Big gauge is just in case. I can live perfectly with Canare 14AWG wires used on 4ohm speakers and 75watts amp.

[@doargietweitervandah]

well, maybe in this case, its not the wire but youre speakers arent much revealing.

[@ryohnosuker]

I think the only way to notice difference is with power hungry 8ohm speaker and higher volume listening.

[@JDM797]

Same here..i cannot make out any difference, so cables doesn't bother me anymore...

[@steveostiguy9519]

What black sheathing size would you recommend for putting the two wires together instead of 3/8" singles? Would you use 16mm (5/8")

[@palmeadia]

Great video! One piece of advice though, when twisting the final terminal wires together prior to insertion into banana plugs, use gloves, this will prevent oils from your fingers oxidising the cable ends.

[@florin604]

Oil/grease doesn't oxidize the copper. Salts oxidize the copper. Copper is actually protected by grease/oil. Copper will oxidize regardless if you touch it or not, but when it does it forms a layer that will stop further oxidation. Don't give any advices if you are clueless.

[@palmeadia]

@@florin604 Obviously oxygen which is in the air acts as an oxidising agent but Acids which are present on the skin cause expedited oxidation. 'Oils' was to refer to this acid mantel. The oxidised layer you refer to may help protect the metal itself from further degradation but it also unfortunately acts as a barrier between the contacts.

[@paulf6946]

Stunning ,if they sound as good as they look ,wow ,going to make a set in the next couple of weeks ,thank you 👌👌

[@everettspain2739]

For some reason, commenting on this post doesn't allow you to share pics. Just finished my cables and I'd love to share my pics. Also the connectors used in @Tharbamar video are out of stock until July (everywhere) so I went with an alternative.

[@paulf6946]

Everett Spain sweet mate ,how do they sound

[@everettspain2739]

@@paulf6946 I've only listened a few hours so not quite enough to give a full review but a very noticeable difference from the BJC 12. I'm bi-amping my Martin Logan ESL X through the Marantz MM7055, crossing them over at 80Hz and allowing the 2 Martin Logan 1100X handle the bass in 2 channel music listening. If you've never listened to Martin Logan's, they aren't very forgiving...if there's a weakness they will reveal it. I'll share more after more listening.

[@paulf6946]

Everett Spain fantastic,I look forward to hearing how they sound when fully run in

[@boogiemanspud]

Thanks for the video. Would having separately shielded wires make a difference? I know on analog video signals (especially unamplified), shielded of utmost importance. If you run unamplified video signal for any distance close to a pcb, there is a ton of video interference. Once amplified, the video signal isn't as susceptible to interference. I don't know how susceptible speaker wires are (probably not nearly as sensitive since it's an amplified signal at that point).

[@christopherwilson6825]

@Tharbamar if a person could , can you shield your speaker wires. But the question can you ?. Before I do it do you know if that's safe thank you.

[@Tharbamar]

Yes you can use shielded speaker cable, shield should not connect to the speaker end but it must be grounded on amplifier chassis somewhere to get full benefits. Thanks

[@MohrMi]

What about the Mogami W2921? Is it comparable or competitive to the W3104? Which would you prefer between W2921 and W3103? Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!!

[@Viking-ou8fc]

I watch a lot of video on speaker wires , amps , and speakers .I love your channel the best as you have a great ear for sound and actually look at all the good and bad before making a dicission. Thank you for a great channel . I wish I could get the denon amp you ordered from Japan but I am scared as I don't want to be screwed if something goes wrong . My future speakers are going to be sonus fabre olympica nova 5 , and hope I can soon

[@flyingjeff1984]

Nice work. Shrink tubing comes in various "shrinkage" ratios, maybe that will help someone.

[@jimmymac601]

Just ask George Costanza.

[@guillermozepeda9967]

@@jimmymac601 I was in the pool!

[@mrpositronia]

I have a modest hi-fi system with Tannoy speakers and Cambridge integrated amp. I find differences in sound with different cables, even my girlfriend notices the difference (including when I added an Isotek power cable). I'm not even talking about expensive speaker cables, I'm talking about unbranded 4mm speaker cable compared with 3-core stranded power cable and solid core power cable. The 4mm speaker cable sounds worse, by the way, it's more compressed in the top end and sounds less natural. The solid core had more dynamics and depth, but lacking in top end, the 3 core stranded has a more natural top end and wider sound stage. So I'm bi-wiring both the power cables, works a treat. Scoff all you like, you nay sayers, but that's how it is. I also got all my cables for free off of other people. :)

[@fomoontech8217]

mrpositronia the scoffing is because people pay $2,500 (or more!) for cables to change the sound when adding room treatment would be way more effective and cheaper

[@mrpositronia]

@@fomoontech8217 the 'scoffing' part is for those who think there is no actual audio difference in any cables, and that we're all deluding ourselves. Also, I don't concern myself with what other people can afford to spend on gear. Acoustic treatment helps with the effect the room has, plus EQ, but cables help to get the finer details right. I'm sure those who can afford thousands per metre of cable have the acoustic treatment already installed. Plus an expensive listening chair too! :D

[@andya2665]

A cable company would want over $1000 for comparable cables. Gonna try to make these. Thanks

[@rajkrish9347]

Great video man. In a stroke of excitement, i just ordered the Mogami cable, Parts Express plugs to connect my Audiolab MBs to Elac Unifi UF52. Now am thinking of how to tackle my gf when she notices those monstrous cables 😀

[@xcvbxcvb2179]

Don't worry, most women like big black cable aka BBC. 😊

[@kirkcunningham6146]

If you go with what the professional studios use, you can't go wrong. Great video buddy, thanks!

[@carlosoliveira-rc2xt]

That's not necessarily a wise choice.

[@kirkcunningham6146]

@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt please, tell us what the wise choice is. Im dying to know since I've been an audio enthusiast for over 30 years.

[@kirkcunningham6146]

@Douglas Blake his cable is overkill. However, a 10 foot pair of Belden or Canare is not. Both of what i mentioned are also used in Pro-audio. Most of what you described is about connectors. A pair of 12guage Belden cables far outweigh a cheap ass lamp cord for not much more $. Blue Jeans cable is Belden and the prices are extremely good for excellent quality studio grade cable.

[@kirkcunningham6146]

@Douglas Blake you go girl with your lampcord. If it works for you, great. Meanwhile, the rest of us will enjoy what we like. That's the beauty of this hobby. You can do whatever you want and invest in what you see fit. You spend allot of time trying to convince the unconvincing. Does it really matter to you? Run along now...

[@kirkcunningham6146]

@Douglas Blake Thanks! All you want to do is argue on KZbin which is stupid. Noone cares...

[@gloriaanderson1227]

Thank you for the video, what are your feelings about Bi Wire Mogami 3104 , I have a pair of B&W 702-S2 , does bi wire make a difference some say yes and some say no, if I was to bi wire what other color is + beside the red, Thank You

[@sphaera3809]

Awesome tutorial! I’m with you, I mostly only use pro cables. The only exception is Supra, I find their power cords excellent. I also like their shielded speaker cables - I find some class D amps sound better with shielded speaker cables. One could also shield a professional speaker cable by manually adding a copper shield over the cable and covering it with the nylon mesh. Now I’m inspired to try the Mogami speaker cables. I’ll build a pair to try... :-D

[@jakephilbrick7384]

You should probably avoid shielded speaker cables as it drives up the capacitance of the cable dramatically. And since the signal isn't getting amplified after those cables, shielding isn't really going to do a whole lot unless you are in a VERY noisy environment. That being said, if you think its sounds better that way, that's all that really matters.

[@sjors01]

How long can I make the cable? I need 6 yards on both sides. What about the length longer than 8 meters can the amplifier still handle it. e.g. primary i25? Thank you.

[@Tharbamar]

Please try this type of cable for long runs Mogami W3082 Could Be The Best Sounding Speaker Cable For The Money kzbin.info/www/bejne/mp-ul6yrnrxshZY

[@seans1102]

Im building a set of these...thanks for the idea and tutorial.

[@BabeTheAstrologer]

Was it easy to do?

[@BostonMike68]

I know that this is an older video, but I have been looking for the big banana plugs on parts Express but I didn't see the same ones.

[@Tharbamar]

Please see updated list in video description.

[@BostonMike68]

@@Tharbamar Ok thanks I found it. They look great!!! I have been designing my own speakers and those cables will work nicely. I'm looking for an end game amp that's affordable so I keep my eyes on channel. I'm maybe going for a hegal.

[@christophkampmann6415]

Really lovely advice. What do you recommend for a 4 way speaker system which is active driven. Two Mogami 3104 per channel or 4 Mogami 3104 per channel?

[@Tharbamar]

I can’t comment on it without trying, thanks

[@danhorton6182]

I’d say at the most two per channel. Each wire is 11 awg and with two runs per channel you’d be doubling up to get the 4 drivers (8 individual wires/2 = 4 for the 4 drivers. Essentially each driver would then have a run of 9 awg. Wayyyy overkill unless you’re running a lot of power over a long run. If the drivers have a standard 8 or 4 ohm impedance, the run is under 30 feet, and the power to each driver is under 600 watts id say you’d be fine with one run per channel. Each driver would have an 11 awg wire and the losses over that wire would be nearly nothing.

[@jcli007]

You are best! What a difference! Loads and loads of low end. Crystal clear and sweeter high end. I admit that I was an anti-cable guy. Not a big fan spending thousands on expensive cables. I was genuinely surprised how big the improvement was. I always thought my Musical Fidelity A200DM pure class A int amp was not powerful enough to drive my 6 ohms 86db Harbeth SHL-5 speakers. Or my speakers were just lack of low end or combination of both. The low end/bass and high frequency response was weak. So a few weeks ago I ordered a tube amp from a reputable brand hoping it would change everything. After a week of testing, I decided to return the tube amp. There was no obvious improvement. I was frustrated and lost. Two days later. I received the speaker cable parts from the links provided. I followed the detailed instruction and built the cables. It took me about 3 hours. I couldn't be happier with result. Most important thing was it solved my decades long mystery. I couldn't believe it was the speaker cables all along. Thank you so so much!

[@jajessee]

Thanks for your time and effort

[@steelandpower]

Your link point towards the TST-WP48NP Furez connectors. Although those will fit double 12AWG in the connector tip, the connector "barrel" will not house them!! You need the XL version. I was forced to manually shave off part of the conductor jackets so I could push/twist and lower them enough on the conductors to be able to crimp the plugs onto the twisted wires. This was a painstaking trial and error process which added a good 30min per cable...

[@Tharbamar]

I will fix the links, thank you.

[@AquaFreak]

Nice tutorial, and I love the look of the cable and speaker banana

[@ianlamb2352]

I’m going to do this to bi-amp. Which colour cables should I put my red banana plugs on ?

[@Tharbamar]

I would start with Red conductor, thanks

[@ianlamb2352]

@@Tharbamar sorry think question got lost in translation. This cable has 4 different colour wires red, yellow, orange and brown. Which two should I make red and which two white connectors ?? Love the videos. Would love a balanced XLR cable video.

[@nathanielbolden5053]

Beautiful!...im gonna make some for my home theatre speakers!...theyre only 2 conductor though!

[@MonsieurCorbusier]

Did you do it Nathaniel?

[@typedeaf]

I think one shoukd look at the quality of the speaker and power source. If your speaker has steel binding posts and/or 16 ga wiring to the speaker internally, whats the point?

[@67spankadelik]

Excellent! Thanks for posting!

[@toffeur23]

Hello from France. I have a question: wich lenght do have the cables sold by ebay there is non mention of the size. Thanks forward

[@Tharbamar]

As far as I know most sellers priced per foot for these cables.

[@gordiefrench5342]

great work i have used mogami for years best cable money can buy

[@chifetish]

You can buy Transparent 12-4 cable for about 5 bucks a foot. That is what I use and I think a better value for the money. You can buy direct from their website.

[@BonJohnvie]

@@chifetish Can you send me the link to this?

[@paulespino6462]

@@chifetish Just looked at Transparent's website and couldn't find that 12-4 cable. Could you post the link?

[@dennisgriffith6575]

You put together what is probably the best speaker cables money can buy.

[@deejeemadrox1866]

nice show and it surely will work fine. But i am wondering, are these not overkill for home use? I mean, these kind of professional cables are meant to travel long distances, 50 mtr or more.

[@everettspain2739]

Since this cable has 4 conductors, can I use one cable with 4 connectors to bi-amp my speakers?

[@Tharbamar]

Yes it can use as bi-wire.

[@christopherwilson6825]

@TharBamar I've heard in one of your videos when putting together I think it was speaker cable, you stated that I don't need the ends.. where the screw goes on top of the banana pull up. Is that because some of the screws are magnetic? Or if you can please enlighten me. Thank you

[@xsonicpunkx]

Awesome job. I really enjoyed watching you work.

[@sergelanglois753]

Realy Nice and good wires for a Low cost. 👍🏽🤩👍🏽. I m in and i ll tryd it. Thanks my friend 🙏🏼

[@sluiceman1]

Hi, just wondering how these cables have performed over the last year? Do you still use them? Like them?

[@anjovandijk9797]

Does the Furez TST WP48 fits both the Mogami 3104/3103 I ask this to be sure cause the WP48XL is no longer available

[@Tharbamar]

Yes WP48 should work fine with Mogami cables.

[@Badazz08]

I dont even use speaker cables. I solder the amp terminals directly to the terminals on the speaker. Best damn sound I have ever heard lol. J/K: great video.

[@JerryWDaviscom]

Same here. Collateral benefit - smaller form factor. And with sufficient battery energy, my whole system is PORTABLE and can be carried by only three people.

[@BogdanWeiss]

Nothing beats garden hose filled with mono-crystalline mercury as the conductor - maybe solid brazed copper tubing - sure it's a bit stiff & not very portable, but that's HiFi for you ;-)

[@jfcampens1098]

Thank you for the tutorial - one question, the banane plugs you now advice (viborg vb 401) can only accept a 4mm cable 😅 how can it match with the 2 wires of the Mogami cable ? In that case it would be better to use the Mogami 3103 with only 1 wire per banana ? Thanks in advance for your reply

[@Tharbamar]

Hi I only recommend it because I switched to it for my own cables, it’s tight fitting might need slight trimming for quad cables, thanks

[@1skintyte]

Great video my man👍🏽👊🏽