Making the Cut Trailer - Haidong Gumdo World Championships 2012

[@ComsicQuestGG]

Wow! I never knew about Haidong Gumdo. This really makes me want to start training again.

[@DanielC01000100]

What great memories!! TT___TT I expect to have that experience again soon!! Good luck to all the samuraangs out there!!! Best wishes from Mexico

[@SheenaMalfoy]

So many memories of this place! Thank you both for filming this, I can't wait to see the final movie! Cheers from Canada!

[@kyunkyun2160]

Just found this video because I was researching swordmanship references and this is perfect! The spinning and dual-wielding are what I had wanted to see so this is the best reference for me. But the amount of ignorant comments just screaming plagiarism here is ridiculous (even though they comments years ago).

[@RacistChinaWhite]

Appropriation of Japanese culture that Koreans often do

[@kyunkyun2160]

@@RacistChinaWhite what appropriation. Japan colonized korea and other asian countries in the past.

[@RacistChinaWhite]

@@kyunkyun2160 Korea: Mr. Japan! Please annex us to Japan! please! with historical records lol

[@RacistChinaWhite]

@@kyunkyun2160 Asian countries that broke away from Western colonies thanks to their annexation to Japan. I have to thank Japan

[@kyunkyun2160]

@@RacistChinaWhite you're glorifying colonization? Disgusting.

[@bca_1]

That's my gumdo jang in korea the people with the bright yellow shirts!

[@mafmj9432]

Actually the basis of the Korean sword and Haidong Gumdo originates in the ancient realm of Koguryo (331 d.C.) Many Korean martial arts and traditions were almost lost during the Japanese invasions, the written language was almost lost too. After the Vietnam war and the liberation of South Korea the government has taken action into restoring some of their ancient culture, including martial arts. Haidong Gumdo is the coalition of some of the Korean sword techniques.

[@bruceburns405]

I love this video! Nice beat. Pretty swordsmanship. The forms and sparring segments just ruined all of my plans for the evening... where did I put that sword...? This is an excellent presentation of a fun swordsmanship style that just happens to have the dorkiest horse stance in the world. But that's about it. I love almost everything else about +HaidongGumdo Also... FRUIT NINJA?!?!?!?! OMG. Too cool.

[@RacistChinaWhite]

Appropriation of Japanese culture that Koreans often do

[@bruceburns405]

@@RacistChinaWhite Oh look, another random Japanese troll jerking off in about nationalistic pride for no social benefit and in direct contradiction of even Japanese martial ethics, which invites the practitioner to stfu and allow someone else to walk their own path. So, since you've demonstrated that you're not a martial artist of any level of moral/cultural virtue, and you're not seeking the benefit of society, why not pursue your self-pleasure somewhere private?

[@dojosdojo]

nice video bring back the sweet memory there hope to see the final video bravo from indonesia !

[@jeanettegreig1720]

I do a sword seminar with some of the best masters who study this art. Even though I'm only learning basics I've grown a deep respect towards this. I've been blessed to know masters from Australia Mexico and all over the US

[@jakedsnaeque7618]

Fun to watch. I like the candle stuff. See that stuff at county fairs and circuses all the time. It's cool. The sparring is strange looking, but nice choreography if one was making a movie. The body mechanics look pretty solid, and the jumpy spinning stuff must take a lot of control.

[@cozykatoh7142]

There are no samurai and ninja in korea. Is this marshal art korean original?and also funny, why they take japanese dogi(kimono) on with black belt.

[@ZeldamateurLP]

Japanese culture (as far as you can say so, more about that later) isn't the be-all and end-all of Asian history. A little lesson in history: During the Nara Period (about 300 AD to 800 AD) the state of Yamato(or Yamatai, according to the chinese history books) was founded in the core land of Japan. Many connections lead from this early japanese state to Korea. Yamato-troops fought as allies of Paekche/Baekje against Silla, both of them early korean states at war with each other, and the Yamato Kingdom had annexed a small area in the far south of Korea, Mimana. Through Korea, the state of Yamato also had connections to China, which unfortunately couldn't be continued due to the ensueing wars in North china during the late 3rd century. After China was divided into a Northern Empire and a Southern Empire in the early 5th century, the rulers of Yamato again made connections with the south chinese Liu-Sung-Dynasty. For the development of the Yamato state, the relations to the continent, especially to Korea, were essential. In the beginning of the 5th century, many refugees from Korea, whose population had to suffer immensely under the continuing conflicts, fled to Japan. Most of them left their home deliberately, but sometimes, whole villages were forced to resettle by the Yamato troops. From the court of Baekje, the Yamato state requested qualified craftsmen and scholars. Thus, in early Japan, a group of writers of Korean descent tasked with official correspondence was formed. During the 6th century, the court of Yamato was-again through Korea-introduced to Buddhism; at the same time, the way was cleared for a chinese education. And evidence for all of what i just mentioned can be found in japanese and chinese historical documents, like the Nihongi, the Kojiki, Shu-ching and so on and so forth. The Katana wasn't even invented in the Nara Period. The main weapon at the time was the Chokutou, a single-edged straight sword that would later evolve into the Tachi. The Katana as we know it today is a copy of the chinese Miao Dao or Dan Dao. And since China heavily influenced both Korea and Japan, does it really seem that unlikely that the Koreans would develop a similar martial art? They weren't stupid, you know. They had to hold their own against either themselves or chinese or japanese invaders many times, so why wouldn't they develop means to defend themselves? In case you are wondering, my sources are works of both Prof. Dr. Peter Pantzer, Japanologist at the University of Vienna and Prof. Nelly Naumann, Japanologist at the Albert-Ludwigs-University, Freiburg, Germany, as well as a little bit of Wikipedia and its corresponding sources.

[@neko-kaburi]

@@ZeldamateurLP The opinion that the Japanese sword is a copy of the Chinese shamshir is an unfounded delusion. The Japanese sword is an ancient straight sword based on the curved sword used in the Touhoku (Emishi) region of Japan, and has been improved in the long history of Japan.

[@SamFisher-xs5qk]

Super

[@makingthecut48]

Hi

[@takeruvbs4999]

ITS NOT A KATANA!!!!! Its a JINGUM Katanas are made using the folding technique. long process for good durability. Jingums use old day science. It uses the spreading technique. Jingums are just as strong as Katanas, but due to the spreading technique, they are slightly lighter, have a thinner edge, and a wider blade. The edge is also purer than the katana, as the katana has waves on the edge. The Jingum is the koren version of the katana. But its built for speed martial arts. They use haidong gumdo with this slightly faster but same strength sword as the katana to make the japanese fumble. These martial arts are meant to be odd, as they can trick the japanese into making the wrong move, and then attack them from an angle they never knew they could be killed at. The Jingum is also slightly shorter than the katana. In my personal opinion, i like the Jingum better. because olden day science made it better than most of the olden day katana.

[@Savlo1]

1:05 Awesome!

[@yomama8212]

Seems more like those performances at festival

[@doyouknowuriginal2845]

ARE YOU CRAZY? ^^

[@bhedrick101]

YES AND NO

[@RacistChinaWhite]

Appropriation of Japanese culture that Koreans often do

[@jinan_hwasal]

I dont give a shit bout who right or wrong here but that kid can lights off lots of candle can you even do one with out cuting those candles?

[@KohanKilletz]

I'll edit it for you if you want I mean it's been two years and still not out! Best of all, I'll do it for free!

[@mysticalarchives7821]

anyone know where you could find uniforms like what the people are wearing at the 1:05 and 1:42 marks?

[@azisandwich]

You can't, unless you're a master in Haidong Gumdo with the required Dan.

[@Hockeyfan9884]

so if in a life or death duel and i chop off the enemy arm and leg and slash open his guts in 2 swipes of my sword , do i win ?

[@bhedrick101]

depends why you initiated the duel

[@bhedrick101]

Jail, you win Jail

[@Katcom111]

Nope doesn't work like that people be carrying guns.

[@jf178082035]

日本が朝鮮半島を併合した時に日本の剣道、居合道が伝わった。

[@heatherbolding7074]

How old is Chris Hokin from the video?

[@bunnytakepon]

It's Katana that they are using right? Korea uses double-edged sword not single-edged sword like Katana.

[@ThePirateHunter]

+Titian. D That's true. That's because it's originally from Japan. Korean Haidong "Gumdo" comes from "Kendo". That's why they use Katana.

[@sirbutthurt2937]

Not quite true, as one who trains Gumdo, it is influenced by both Japan and China. The whole story about the samurang and all that is made up though. Personally I don't care, Gumdo is fun and good for my body and mind.

[@mongolchiuud8931]

Gumdo is the Korean pronunciation of Kendo.

[@takeruvbs4999]

ITS NOT A KATANA!!!!! Its a JINGUM Katanas are made using the folding technique. long process for good durability. Jingums use old day science. It uses the spreading technique. Jingums are just as strong as Katanas, but due to the spreading technique, they are slightly lighter, have a thinner edge, and a wider blade. The edge is also purer than the katana, as the katana has waves on the edge. The Jingum is the koren version of the katana. But its built for speed martial arts. They use haidong gumdo with this slightly faster but same strength sword as the katana to make the japanese fumble. These martial arts are meant to be odd, as they can trick the japanese into making the wrong move, and then attack them from an angle they never knew they could be killed at. The Jingum is also slightly shorter than the katana. In my personal opinion, i like the Jingum better. because olden day science made it better than most of the olden day katana.

[@ZeldamateurLP]

Well, yes but actually no. While the Jingum is very similar to the making of a Katana, the Katana as we know it today is a copy of the chinese Dandao or Miaodao, which also influenced Korean swordsmiths. The sword you are referring to is the Jian, also a chinese sword that was mainly used by officers or wealthy civillians.

[@NaziShepherd]

do they know this is the korean fake version? not the japanese kendo... poor westerners...

[@ZeldamateurLP]

Kendo is a game where to grown-ups whack each other with bamboo sticks. It has about as much to do with real swordfighting as the lightsaber duels i had with my friends in elementary school. And even if you are referring to Kenjutsu, you'd still be wrong. Japanese culture (as far as you can say so, more about that later) isn't the be-all and end-all of Asian history. And unless you are a sweaty neckbeard weeaboo who thinks that Japan is superior to every other country (which i very much hope you aren't) you should know better. A little lesson in history: During the Nara Period (about 300 AD to 800 AD) the state of Yamato(or Yamatai, according to the chinese history books) was founded in the core land of Japan. Many connections lead from this early japanese state to Korea. Yamato-troops fought as allies of Paekche/Baekje against Silla, both of them early korean states at war with each other, and the Yamato Kingdom had annexed a small area in the far south of Korea, Mimana. Through Korea, the state of Yamato also had connections to China, which unfortunately couldn't be continued due to the ensueing wars in North china during the late 3rd century. After China was divided into a Northern Empire and a Southern Empire in the early 5th century, the rulers of Yamato again made connections with the south chinese Liu-Sung-Dynasty. For the development of the Yamato state, the relations to the continent, especially to Korea, were essential. In the beginning of the 5th century, many refugees from Korea, whose population had to suffer immensely under the continuing conflicts, fled to Japan. Most of them left their home deliberately, but sometimes, whole villages were forced to resettle by the Yamato troops. From the court of Baekje, the Yamato state requested qualified craftsmen and scholars. Thus, in early Japan, a group of writers of Korean descent tasked with official correspondence was formed. During the 6th century, the court of Yamato was-again through Korea-introduced to Buddhism; at the same time, the way was cleared for a chinese education. And evidence for all of what i just mentioned can be found in japanese and chinese historical documents, like the Nihongi, the Kojiki, Shu-ching and so on and so forth. Now, with all that in mind, can you really still be that ignorant to think that the Japanese were solely responsible for the entire cultural development of East Asia? Because surprise surprise, the Katana wasn't even invented in the Nara Period. The main weapon at the time was the Chokutou, a single-edged straight sword that would later evolve into the Tachi. The Katana as we know it today is a copy of the chinese Miao Dao or Dan Dao. And since China heavily influenced both Korea and Japan, does it really seem that unlikely that the Koreans would develop a similar martial art? They weren't stupid, you know. They had to hold their own against either themselves or chinese or japanese invaders many times, so why wouldn't they develop means to defend themselves? And even if the whole "plagiarism" claim would turn out to be actually true, what would it even matter? Japan is one of the biggest copycats in history itself. Their governmental structure and the navy from the UK, the military and the medical system of Prussia, the firearms from the Protuguese, the Chopsticks, the buddhist religion and the writing from China. That's right, before the 6th century, the Japanese didn't even know how to goddamn write until the Chinese came along who developed it 2000 years earlier. Heck, even Karate is not a japanese invetion, it's derived from the harder Shaolin styles like Hung-Gar Kung Fu. "Why are you looking for the splinter in your brothers eye, look for the beam in your own eye first." TL;DR Don't be a douchebag. In case you are wondering, my sources are works of both Prof. Dr. Peter Pantzer, Japanologist at the University of Vienna and Prof. Nelly Naumann, Japanologist at the Albert-Ludwigs-University, Freiburg, Germany, as well as a little bit of Wikipedia and its corresponding sources.

[@neko-kaburi]

@@ZeldamateurLP The opinion that the Japanese sword is a copy of the Chinese shamshir(曲刀) is an unfounded delusion. The Japanese sword is an ancient straight sword(直刀) based on the curved sword used in the Touhoku (Emishi) region of Japan, and has been improved in the long history of Japan.

[@Kungen940127]

Why are they spinning around? That is stupid. You don't turn your back to your enemy unless you have a really good reason to do so.

[@Xanezo]

+Oscar Nilzen They spin to show their dexterity, agility and balance. Also a spin produces a stronger cut then a perfectly still one. The art of Haidong Gumdo strives around the idea of quantity of quality when it comes to the attacks. Each cut being used to lead up to another, unlike kendo were the idea is to finish the duel with a single strike. Please try to be respectful to the art even though your knowledge on it is minimal.

[@Kungen940127]

+MrNine Divine Sure I can accept that it is for showing agility and balance. But it is not a viable thing to do in a "duel". Also. That sparring is not sparring. It is kata, it is coreographed. Yes a spin might produce more strength but you still turn your back to your enemy. And you don't do that unless it is the most strategic thing to do. And in a one on one duel it is stupid. I mean it looks cool but it is not good martial arts. This is more sword dance and show than actual martial arts. True I do not know a lot about Haidong. But I know a lot about Kendo and Iaido/Kenjutsu. And from my perspective this Haidong looks like something from a kung fu film. Plus. Why are they using Katana? And don't say that the Koreans invented the Katana. That is not true.

[@Xanezo]

I'll try to respond to all of your comments to the best of my knowledge. I will not claim to know everything about Haidong but i believe to understand a bit more than what is currently circling the web right now. In response to your comment on the spinning. In Haidong Gumdo their are never any "Duels", the art is formed around the idea of one vs many. Typically during the Gum Bups (Long Forms) a spin is used to represent the point in battle were one has defeated the current opponent infront of them, and then turning to block an attack from behind or a different direction. This is considered to be a more Battle field oriented art rather than an honorable duel such as Kendo. However most schools will teach the importance of knowing how to keep vision on all opponents while also leaving the least amount of blind spots possible, ie. keeping your back to a wall or safe position. In a one on one duel i agree a spin would be rather risky, however if done at the correct moment you can disorient the opponent and potentially win. This of course also comes with the great risk of leaving your back open to your opponent. The Kata shown in the video is of course, Kata, meaning that it's only used to entertain the audience while also displaying a small amount of technique, although it is slight. For the sparring shown were both men were wearing protective gear, that was a true fight. It was not choreographed however it often times may appear that way due to the spinning used. This however is simply due to the fact that within Haidong Gumdo tournament sparring's there is a point system to decide who the winner is. The rules state that a normal full and successful attack is worth 1 point, while a one handed spinning horizontal cut to the body is worth 2. This is simply due to the difficulty of actually succeeding with the attack. In response to the sword dance comment, Haidong actually has a specific sword dance sub art that i'd highly recommend you watch if you're interesting in that field. I for one am more for the realistic side of the art, which is why i also train in kendo as well. And i'm not going to say much about your "kung fu movie" comment, primarily due to it being your opinion which you have the complete right to believe in. I however would recommend that if you want true understanding art, then you should look around your area to see if there is a local dojang that could teach you this excellent art. And for your finally question i'll try to make it brief, seeing that i've already wrote a short essay paper here. As you may already know the Japanese have had a strong influence in Korea's history. Due to their occupation of the country it's not surprising that some of their culture had influences as well. Through these influences many arts formed that could be compared to their Japanese counter parts. When it comes to Haidong Gumdo due to having a strong connection to Kendo the creators had made weapons very similar to the Japanese Katana in order to imitate their art. That being said however, the two arts as you know are quite different from each other, the same can be said about their weapons. The Samurang(Swordsman who train in Haidong Gumdo and Kumdo) use a weapon called the JinGum, this translates to simply "Metal Sword" The blades of these swords are typically much thinner and wider than katanas, they also tend to way less and have a shorter handle. The most drastic difference however is the curvature of the blade. If you were to compare the two swords side by side the difference would be dramatic. Katana's are know for their beautiful curve that is often times compared to a wave of water, that is if you have an authentic nihonto. JinGums however are more straight, they still have a curve but it's not as profound. These sword can be compared to those of competition cutting Katanas. There are alot of people going around here claiming to know plenty about haidong gumdo, however they simply spew out false information in order to spread hate and conflict between the two arts. I did my best to address your concerns and i hope i was successful in doing so within reason. If you have any more questions about the art feel free to ask, i have no issue with discussing about these iconic arts.

[@SarcasticExecution]

+Oscar Nilzen Really? Next time I'm facing an enemy weilding a razor sharp sword I'll have to remember that!

[@andrewsinclair7159]

+Oscar Nilzen This might sound crazy to you, but martial arts is actually about more than just fighting. A lot more, in fact.

[@maciejrostafinski7367]

"Sparring" my ass... :D

[@kazzB]

Why arE They usIng Japanese sword?

[@bhedrick101]

They aren't. The jingum has a very different geometry

[@kazzB]

Really? Are they copying and stealIng Japanese culture again ? North Korea dont have this Japanese style sord. 😢 We call it culture appropriation.

[@kazzB]

@@bhedrick101 I thInk thiS is culture appropriation.

[@kazzB]

@@bhedrick101 North korea dont have this swordmanship. Where is This jingum comE from? why do they use Japanese uniform dougi?

[@kazzB]

@@bhedrick101 North korea dont have this swordmanship. Where is This jingum comE from? why do they use Japanese uniform dougi?

[@shumbanord]

Hot dance

[@JoseMariaVH]

were they from?

[@SheenaMalfoy]

Very late reply (sorry!) but this video mostly showcased the american haidong gumdo team during the 2012 world championships, though there are some impressive clips of some of the korean demonstrators in the opening ceremony and also of one of the canadian masters during his bamboo cutting and gumbup rounds in front of the judges. There's a few other nice clips in there just for show also, of course.

[@JoseMariaVH]

+SheenaMalfoy ok thanks

[@doyouknowuriginal2845]

Thank you Koreans for spreading the "JAPANESE" culture to the world! ^^

[@streetcat3411]

Looks like K-pop dance...

[@MOMOTA241]

わざわざ日本刀を使うんじゃない。韓国刀（あるのか知らんが）を使え。

[@takeruvbs4999]

ITS NOT A KATANA!!!!! Its a JINGUM Katanas are made using the folding technique. long process for good durability. Jingums use old day science. It uses the spreading technique. Jingums are just as strong as Katanas, but due to the spreading technique, they are slightly lighter, have a thinner edge, and a wider blade. The edge is also purer than the katana, as the katana has waves on the edge. The Jingum is the koren version of the katana. But its built for speed martial arts. They use haidong gumdo with this slightly faster but same strength sword as the katana to make the japanese fumble. These martial arts are meant to be odd, as they can trick the japanese into making the wrong move, and then attack them from an angle they never knew they could be killed at. The Jingum is also slightly shorter than the katana. In my personal opinion, i like the Jingum better. because olden day science made it better than most of the olden day katana.

[@amagooyagi2791]

youtube動画で包丁ぐらいのを七輪(これも日本由来)で炙るのがある 家の庭の野外で作業してた　茶道にお湯ポットとトイレットペーパー 使うのと同じクオリティー、なんちゃって韓国刀造りしてた

[@amagooyagi2791]

@@takeruvbs4999 アニメの世界ならあるかもね　googleで調べれば分かるだろう?

[@badzack3]

Funny indeed, cause Japnese culture is a mix of chinese and korean ...

[@RacistChinaWhite]

Appropriation of Japanese culture that Koreans often do

[@hwasonggenova]

enushisama basta! Fai solo spamming. In ogni video di Haidong-Gumdo scrivi sempre le stesse cose! Ma... ti pagano per questa disinformazione? Sembra propaganda contro L'haidong-gumdo (!!)

[@a2b193]

俳優が作ったらそりゃ殺陣になるわな。

[@amagooyagi2791]

韓国人は欧州人を騙すのは凄く簡単と思ってそう 東アジアの歴史に無知な彼らは、自分たちの尺度で文化も服装も欧州同様に 隣国との違いはあまりないと考えているからね

[@hudaramasenju1150]

plagiarism!!! the sword, uniform, and move. sorry my english soo bad

[@ZeldamateurLP]

Not to be disrespectful, but need i remind you where firearms, buddhism, the kanji writing system, chopsticks, the prefecture system, trains and many more things that are very common in modern day Japan originally came from? I'll give you a hint, not from Japan.

[@neko-kaburi]

@@ZeldamateurLP The difference between Korea and Japan is that Japan does not lie about the culture and technology received from abroad as Japanese culture. However, unfortunately, Korea lied about the culture it received from Japan, saying, "This has been in Korea for a long time" and "Korea has told Japan." That is very sad for us Japanese. Kendo originated in Korea The origin of the Japanese sword originated in South Korea. ↑ Koreans hurt the hearts of Japanese people by telling such lies. Swords have been around the world for a long time. It was in China, Korea, and Japan. Among them, Japan in particular promoted the development and improvement of swords, and finally invented what is called a Japanese sword. It is the result of the efforts and passion of our ancestors. Korea has nothing to do with it. Infact, We Japanese respect ancient China and the West, which has achieved the Industrial Revolution. Of course, We also respect Korea. Therefore, Japanese say that Chinese things originate from China. That's why, Japanese say that European things are said to have originated in Europe. And, Japanese says that Korean things originated in Korea. The Japanese improve what originated in other countries, but do not lie to it as Japanese. I also have a sword possession permit in Korea. I am also familiar with Korean swords. To be honest, the Korean sword is not like this video. In recent years, after Japanese swords have been recognized worldwide, South Korea has suddenly said that a sword with a shape similar to a Japanese sword "had such a sword in its own country." That's sad. So I hope Korea also will respect Japan when it comes to Japanese swords. Aside from other Japanese cultures, Japanese swords are the Japanese spirit.

[@malekadon4833]

Japan is knock off capital, how can you criticize Korea? China is the origin of all so called Japanese traditions. Now Japan is a sad puppet of USA.