Which 3D Scanner is best?! The Pop2, Einstar, CR01 and Lizard compared over 20 different scans!

[@Futemire]

Awesome video mate, I really appreciate the detail you put into describing each scanner and it's software.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Wow! You win the SuperThanks competition! Thanks a load for that… it really helps! ❤

[@Futemire]

@@MakingforMotorsport LoL Right On! But seriously, you are helping people save way more than what I gave you, so kudos to you sir. ;)

[@TheMikeBeauchamp]

I suspect the accuracy would be better if there was less beer consumption. Seriously, this might be the best 3d scanner shootout on KZbin! Saving my pennies for an Einstar to compliment my Pop2.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I reckon the beer kept us going! Proper marathon this one!

[@lazy_fur]

In austria/german is a synonyme for beer, wich is called "zielwasser". it means nothing less, than everyone can aim things better than without beer :)...

[@rgoeman9368]

I disagree...More beer should have been consumed for increased quality!

[@MrPonk34]

@@MakingforMotorsport как же ты хорош!

[@EdwardKTheMechanic]

Fantastic comparison of all of these scanners! You've helped solidify that the Einstar is the best for my work flow.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Fantastic! Glad the info helped!

[@DubandJub3DPrints]

I've got the pop 2 for close small details and just picked up the cr01 for larger projects. Glad to see my observations verified

[@MakingforMotorsport]

That’ll be a good combo! 👍

[@Rob_65]

@9:55 "how well it renders those holes and how well the scanner sees down into those holes" - Remember that you are looking at a processed mesh here. You have to look at the actual point cloud to see if the scanner can see down into the holes. If you'd ask me, these holes are are filled by the meshing algorithm and that actually looks nice but that same algorithm may be the reason for the strange meshing error in the bigger hole shown just before. The Einstar leaves the holes unmeshed because their algorithm will not fill the holes because of too few scan points in the holes which I prefer over filling them. That is because I mostly scan for reverse engineering purposes when I need to create a part that fits an existing part, needs to fit in a certain place (inside the scanned part) or when I want to recreate (a modified version of) a part. In these cases I rather want to do a manual measurement when the scan tells me it's lacking data or precision of the data.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I completely agree with your points, the closer cameras on the Lizard vs the Einstar would seem enable it to see further into holes. However as the scanner and software work as a system, seperating them doesn’t make too much sense to me. That said, when RE’g it always makes sense to physically measure when possible, in my RE video I physically measure the drive flange model off that, using the scan to locate the centre line of the wheel hub in relation to the pick up points…

[@BryanWood87]

Thanks for this so much. I'm not a car person really, but ironically here I am for the best reviews and comparisons video for the devices I'm considering

[@stevesloan6775]

You win the internet today for me! I own Zbrush and its incredible for taking scan soup tri-polygons and making perfect edged looped quad-polygons. The "Einstar" is the best suited for what Id love to do. Thanks heaps for your hard work, greatly appreciated. I hope you have a great Christmas day with all of your loved ones 2022. ; )

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Cheers Steve! Merry Christmas to you! I need to get onto the quad meshes!

[@Lex_FX]

Thanks for the great comparison. I have both the CR01 and Pop2. I haven't used either in months coz of the faff. Often faster and less frustration with a set of calipers. Workflow is a massive part of things. You should add the time it takes to spray and clean the object. Or add the cost of AESUB at $75AUD a can. So for me, the Einstar is a leap forward. If anyone wants to swap an Einstar for a Pop2 and a CR01 let me know! 😜

[@hughjassstudios9688]

Me too, I bought a Scan Lizard a few months before the Einstar came out and have been regretting since. The software straight up sucks

[@DerSolinski]

4 parts Isopropyl + 1 part baby talcum powder = DIY scanning spray. Only disadvantage it leaves a mess, but compared to the price of a can of AESUB I clean that up happily. Saves the can for delicate parts 😉

[@richardjones38]

Great video, thanks. It's such a shame that Hewlett Packard completely ruined what was the David scanner project by buying it and then doing absolutely no further development before discontinuing it. It was so far ahead of anything else available at the time in terms of value for money, flexibility and scalability (it's ability to scan both small and large items). It blew away some far more expansive scanners 10 years ago. I'm sure if it had continued being developed as a semi open source project by Simon and Sven, the original developers, it'd blow these away, as it would have had at least 10 years more development. I have dual camera HP 3D Scan 5 system, and would be tempted by the Einscan if it didn't mean I also need a new workstation spec laptop (I don't 'need' one enough to justify the expense at present). That awesome auto tracking of scans of larger, difficult to register shapes such as body panels which is such a time saver, doesn't come for free in terms of processing power I suppose!

[@802Garage]

Sadly the store of many fantastic projects crushed by corporate giants.

[@Andrewatnanz]

Ive got a re-branded HP SLS scanner too and its such a bore to use. Yes I agree its awful they just bought it and let it die. Why ? What did they want with it? Why would a company buy something and then not develop it? Its not like they had a competing product ???

[@richardjones38]

@@Andrewatnanz I believe they bought if for David's software, to use parts of (mesh alignment???) it in a very bizarre HP product called Sprout, which seems to have been a big failure

[@blaqlabspodcast5816]

@@richardjones38 yeah I am pretty mad I have spent thousands and thousands on that system and my license keeps expiring for no reason. Seriously its got the BEST mesh alignment tool out there and I would keep it just for that but the licensing system is garbage.

[@janosadelsberger]

I would love to see a comparison between consumer scanners vs scanning with the Face ID module on an iPhone.

[@jcfallows]

Wow as always you start a new hobby and soon find out how much there is to learn. Your comments and review were brilliant and very honest! I have seen the Revo appearing for sale on eBay a lot cheaper than your price 10 months ago when you made this video. At work we have a new machine that uses a small 3D printed suction tube. They are easily broken and cost 330 euro! So if we could make some of these bespoke items, it would pay for the Revo easily. I like the idea of printing shoe inserts, also mobile clear covers, and many other small items.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Cheers bud, the reviews always take a while but I’m glad you have got something out of it

[@brianf8538]

This video was incredibly helpful. I've spent hours sifting through reviews and through all of the noise couldn't get a clear idea of any single product that was actually helpful. Either things were amazing or they were terrible and anyody who said anything different was a shill, shill was a very commonly used word. Not only do I feel like I have a clearer idea of what direction I'm going in but you've changed my mind as to which one I'm going with. I'm sure all of these pale in comparison to the better scanners out there that cost thousands, but many of us are just trying to get something affordable that outperforms our iPhone lidar function.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Thanks Brian, scanning at this level is as much about knowing how to get the best out of each scanner, and understanding each one’s limitations… and they all have limits. it’s very easy to get it wrong and blame the tool…

[@ajhartmanaero]

Awesome video! Revopoint is sending me a Range to test out so we'll see how that handles larger scans.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Cheers bud, I saw you did some great work with the Pop2. I have seen some good things from the Range scanner, I’d imagine it’d work well for me but I don’t think RevoPoint like me 😬😂🤷‍♂️

[@digital0785]

Lucky can't wait to get my hands on one

[@F_K3NT_D]

I’m subscribing because of your hydration method being just like how I hydrate while performing all 3D printing work at home

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Aaahh… another dedicated hydrated, nice one my friend… Remember you can die from thirst, don’t risk it! 😂

[@BOK1SH]

Thank you very much for this comparison. I think I will give a try to Einstar. Now I have POP2 and Mini. I also had POP1. So far for every aplication I am good with mini, because I scan small parts that fits into revopoint turntable. MINI's accuracy is really amazing to me but I guess large parts would be pain in the ass. Your content is amazing and thank you for that. I love channels that are straight forward

[@MakingforMotorsport]

No problem man, glad you enjoyed it. I’d like to have a go with a mini… not really my niche tho 🤷‍♂️

[@edfhobbies556]

In regards to scanning the scanner that can lose tracking and pick it back up quickly is the more usable scanner for large objects.

[@trythistv]

My 1 cent worth: Both of the Creality scanners do quite well, the Einstar did vastly better in the scan of the mini, which is impressive, scanning a shiny smooth surface does not seem like a simple feat. Of all of the scanners, I think the lizard would do what I need the best, then the Einstar in second. cr-01 third, and I was not terribly impressed with the pop2, although the accuracy was astounding, it didn't seem to do good with surfaces. But after seeing the prices of each of them, I'll stick to my $10 calipers and waste a little filament on some test prints getting everything shaped just perfect.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I was surprised by the CR01, especially for automotive stuff….

[@trythistv]

@@MakingforMotorsport It did very good. just barely edged out by the Lizard and Einstar in my opinion, but it was so close. I suspect as has happened with printers themselves, as time goes on, community firmwares and softwares come around, tech improves and prices come down there will be a lot of interesting things in store!

[@BOK1SH]

I am quite dissapointed by POP2 performance. I am convinced that it can spit reasonable scans but I didnt use it too much so far. Videos like this motivate me to try some tests. But I agree with Dave - I guess none of hobby grade scanners would be great in all applications. Iam thinking about getting einstar to my POP2 and MINI or replace POP2 by Einstar

[@ricardov.freitas9478]

Excelent video! Congrats! I have just received my Einstar. Will start working with it next week, but on thing that you must consider is the size of the part to be scaned. I would go for the Einstar for a large depth of view and the Revopoint mini for small parts. I run a small 3D engineering business in Brazil, focused on car tunning and panel improvements for customization, so that is why I need to think deeply before purchasing equipment.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I am yet to play with the RevoPoint Mini… I hope to have my hands on one soon!

[@CaraDees]

I'm about to buy one of these so this video is VERY welcome and so glad its so new! YAY

[@tegmentoo]

perfect and brilliant review thanks

[@tomsmith3045]

This was very helpful, thank you! I've been holding off on getting a 3d scanner for quite a while now, mostly because the process seems very labor intensive, but also because I just didn't get a good feel for how they might be realistically used from the tests and demos I've seen. From other sources, I thought the Pop 2 might be the best choice for me, because I mostly am looking for precision for small parts. Your testing confirmed that this is a good choice, and that I'll also be able to use it to scan larger parts, too, with time and care. Oh, and the stein for the precision test? Hilarious!

[@ace.mccloud5425]

Hi, I'm also looking for Precision of Small Parts (thought Pop 2 might be the best) .... Would love to know which Scanner does the best! Also, things like Post Processing - Precision of Small Parts.

[@destinyangel5]

Great comparisons, Looks like the secrete to scanning is all about the flatter the shinnyness is the better the scan so anything shinny or semi gloss will make scanner really struggle. You also could rub down the ducco with 800 wet and dry take off the shine before scanning . Even the metal control arm has a little shine transitions around collar hub that mucks with scan.

[@znere65]

Amazing review. Thank you for putting the time in! Sehr gut and greetings from Germany :D

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Danke Schoen!!!

[@nicko.baiculescu9363]

Thank you for this very detailed video, impressive to see such a head to head! I wonder if CR01 has been replaced or out of production, cannot find it anymore

[@David_hasselOof]

Why is doesnt this guy get more love / subscribers?!? He is soo soo SOO understand rated

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Cheers buddy! These are my kind of comments!!!

[@dr.rameshgupta8094]

It will be great help, if you can put up a table on rating out of 10 or so on each aspects and overall for all these 4 scanners, that may be very useful to judge.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Unfortunately not, quantitive measures based on qualitative judgements makes no sense to me… why bother? Just stick with qualitative….

[@802Garage]

The Lizard gives you a great product aesthetically! The Einstar seems like the best scanner for truly usable end products. It's also the most hardware intensive and most expensive, though not by much. Impressive accuracy from the Pop2 given some of its other issues. I think the overall winner is the Einstar, especially for automotive use. The Lizard is really good too though and I'd consider it.

[@davecoggan9619]

Shining3d are working on a new software to allow less aggressive specs needed. Hopefully releasing Q1 in 2023

[@Smeedia]

funny meeting you here lol

[@802Garage]

@@Smeedia Absolutely love this channel! Not surprised to see you here. ;)

[@802Garage]

@@davecoggan9619 Did you end up releasing new software?

[@davecoggan9619]

@@802Garage the latest update, it has helped with how fast the point cloud builds when scanning. You can get more of your part green quicker whilst scanning. They seem a bit slow on banging out updates for the einstar but I hope there will be some improvements to the tools you can use after scanning soon. It's my go to scanner regardless. Excellent scanner

[@plutonthedarkmystic]

Very good work guys - well done^^!!

[@Air_Cardinal]

A nice summary of the different scanners. I was sold on the Einstar so I can't wait to receive it now. I have a large set of 1/18 scale SAABs, but the manufacturer went bust, so I'll be using this on my own SAAB to complete the collection. Oh and survey work ,too. Thank you for the recommendation.😮

[@piyushnayak2630]

I was eagerly waiting for this video

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I hope it met your expectations!

[@cirrus820]

Thanks for sharing! I'm a lizard user and noticed the hardest objects to scan also have the highest cpu utilisation. If the cpu get saturated the software starts losing tracking really fast. I've had parts unscanable with the laptop that were no problem with the desktop. Therefore I'm not convinced using the laptop for the other scanners paints the best picture possible. Anyway i like your video's a lot, keep up the good work!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I hear you, but the Lizard gave some of the best (or at least near the top) scans aesthetically, with the only one it struggled with was the body panel and that’s more to do field of view and the features only tracking…. All that said, a better laptop was on Christmas list, but Santa let me down 😢, so I guess I’ll have to buy one!

[@Flamenawer]

@@MakingforMotorsport why you didn't put the towel and the spray with the lizzard then, quite unfair, is very easy take out that panel with the lizzard with the same or less effort was put with the pop2

[@Flamenawer]

Globally the most convincing are Lizzard and Einstar. The lizard failed in the car but wasn't put enough effort, no even the same thing done with the pop2 spray and towel. The Einstar is the second better in everything but the lizard except in that, was 1st or second. Having in account the money and that I get with external free software the same functionality than the Einstar software, just take the Lizzard. That car can be nicely done with the effort and experience

[@MakingforMotorsport]

@@Flamenawer hi. I agree, all of these results can be improved, with more effort, which I think I flagged adequately in the video. The difficulty is, that if someone just want to scan sections of whole cars, the only choice is the Einstar. Yes others work, and I could make it work with the Lizard, but I’d only do that if I already had one.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

@@Flamenawer because the lizard has such a small field of view, all you would be scanning would be the towel. ALOT got edited out this video, and it took about 40hours to put it together. Can each scanner get better results?? Yes, I said as much in the video but I can’t spend any more time on it! Is the video a fair representation of my experience with all 4 scanners? Absolutely.

[@DaveDarin]

Looks like I might wait another year or 2. I do a lot of 3D Printing but I do my own designs. Would be nice to have a scanner for things that I have that perhaps broke where I can maybe glue the broken part together, scan it, and print a replacement rather than spending design time. But in a couple years things might get better. Nice comparison.

[@69indigoblue]

Thanks for a great review with lots of work that has gotten into it. There were 2 things I missed. First I wish you tried to scan some shiny/reflective objects in the short range on the turntable. Second I missed the final representation with all the colors and texture the scanners picked up. And finally I wished the Einstar did a better job in the short range, because it would have been an easy pick...

[@hegbertwruns]

sehr gut! :-) and PROST from Munich...... thank you for your informative videos! That helps a lot!

[@Todestelzer]

The Einstar has the best Software I agree. For automotive parts probably the best scanner to get. I bought the Einscan SP in the end because I don’t scan as much auto parts. I have the Revopoint mini for really small parts too.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Does the mini outperform the SP?

[@Todestelzer]

@@MakingforMotorsport maybe when scanning really small parts…? But the SP did scan a key better than the mini for example. Less noise in the scan and around the same details. The Revopoint mini can pic up more details but for the most part you don’t need the 0.02 resolution if you not scanning jewelry stuff or really small action figures. The software can’t keep up with the Shining software and you have to use Revopoint Studio for cleanup and fusing the scans. I would say save more money and get a Einscan SP for small stuff (accuracy around 0.05mm!) and a Einstar for big parts. In the end you get what you paid for.

[@Todestelzer]

I have to add I tried to scan a bottle cap recently and the Revopoint mini did pic up the threads really good. The Einscan SP could not do it. There is a new software release for the Revopoint too and it’s pretty nice. Worth a second look.

[@AGRFABRICATIONS]

would be cool to see how precise those scanners are when you scan something that does not fit into frame size as it did in this video - I believe that is when einstar woult shine compared to POP and others. I got terrible results with POP in regards of precission when scanning anything that is larger than its frame size. especially parts with not much reference elements.

[@Sj-kg4hd]

You guys are absolutely the best👍🍻, I just choose a scanner from these models, you have done very demonstrative tests that fit my interests, just like you for reverse engineering. Pop2 and EinStar Most of all liked, the choice now depends only on finding the best option where to buy and how to bring to Russia. Thank you very much.

[@503music6]

I’m going for the einstar honestly, it’ll help for when I get a drum company

[@rossbrannigan3273]

Looking forward to a review of Creality's new Ferret scanner since you have the most relevant and unbiased opinions!

[@ПавелХ-ь6в]

Thanks for VERY useful overview!

[@bewhitey]

Thanks for this video! Looks like it took a ton of work and beer to complete :)

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Gotta stay hydrated…

[@valentinkrajzelman4649]

absolutely impressive vid, i hope you guys are gonna do a a ferret and a revepoint pop 3 review soon!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

RevoPoint 3 is out 👍

[@paulriggs42]

Great objective review ! Thanks !

[@coleacanth8944]

The Creality CR-01 is fickel in regards to object brightness, recommend a coat of matte white on items you plan to scan. The table scan feature takes several seconds sometimes and minutes other times to distinguish the empty platter/table. Note that I created a black matted booth to remove outside light noise and minimize reflections, angled lens appx. 40*degrees overhead and 700mm distance from lens to object (middle of relative camera field [500-1000mm]) and its a trash scan when it does recognize the object from the table. I simplified my scans to rudimentary objects like a paint bottle, LEGO bits, and it jusy doesn't function well. Freehand scanning is much better by far. The review is already spot-on about the sparse/"cheap" feel and function of the Creality software. Good luck [UPDATE]: 60hrs+ of lighting, matte paint, angle+distance changes, failure to recognize turntable, trying on other computers, and my unit couldn't scan a small paint bottle cylinder.

[@Raytenecks]

Thanks for this! I kickstarted the Pop2 and was wondering if I should buy an Einstar for my needs, but it seems that the Pop2 is the one I need anyhow!

[@lk.tuning]

Best is Einstar 👍 Happy Christmas 🎄 From Finland 🇫🇮

[@Alexander450R]

Dude had so many beers in this video I had to go grab one for myself, starting to feel left out

[@CarsDocuments]

Gracias🇨🇱desde Chile, Tu video me ahorro un monton de tiempo, resolvio todas mis dudas. Espero haya mas de escanneado 3D

[@Rumnhammer]

Like I mentioned in the last Einstar video the software makes all the difference in the world, I will gladly pay the difference in price for the Einstar for the easy of use software. Hands down only problem is I need to get a computer with the juice to run it.

[@efrgsergfsgg]

Great video, thank you for doing this. Do you have dimensions of some of the features on the Mini? Something like headlight diameter and distance between the screws on the fender flare? I'd like to compare to the stl files when you get them up.

[@zeroswings2]

I got my pop2 on a early kickstarter pledge... I haven't used it a great deal but did scan a sectioned/cut cylinder head to create a 3d printed model which would serve as the probe piece for having CNC porting work done... it did a decent job but it took forever to get a decent scan... there's a few other things I attempted to scan with it and I had to really douse them all in the aesub spray... but based on this I see I could've chosen a better scanner...

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Whatever gets the job done for an affordable price is a decent tool… but some do require less effort than others 😂

[@lukesky1415]

Just a thought but: for really fine detail you could look into getting a action figure of any show you like (maybe a GUNDAM which has a lot fine elements, also some model cars, preferably some convertibles so that the scanner can work on the interior and the long sheets like the bonnet and trunk, etc).

[@pernstar]

Found this vdeo AFTER ordering the einstar and BOI am I glad I did. LOL

[@VinodSenthil]

which is good for precise human face scanning ? I used thunk3d archer earlier. Due to some reason it doesn't work anymore. I purchased an einstar handheld from shinning3d, still it is not close to the quality of thunk3d archer for face scanning. I was told I need to shell another 7K usd for buying shinning3d Pro hd which is as good as archer . Based on so many products u scanned , can u pls suggest which is good for face scanning, i need hi quality result for skin. Pls suggest. I m vinod , fan of ur channel from india

[@VinodSenthil]

Also if it is not too much to ask. Can I request for the stl sample files of the face scan from all the devices u scanned ? It will be very helpful for me to decide on the hardware I wanna buy. Btw I am creating a VFX movie for which I m needing this info

[@VinodSenthil]

Sorry for another msg, can u please help me with response ?

[@dra911]

Have you seen the Miraco yet? It would seem to combine the best of all worlds with near and far scanning modes, plus standalone is a bonus.

[@lolmandood]

Thank you for the comparison.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

You are 100% welcome!

[@Creality3DScanner]

Wow!!! You did a good job!!! It's really helpful for users!!! Thank you!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Thank you!

[@sarahwilkinson5784]

Excellent analysis. Very informative and helpful!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Thanks for the watch!! I am glad you found it so informative and helpful!

[@sacric1de]

Wonder how the new revopoint updated version 5 software and products stack up with einstar now????

[@kenthornton5753]

Thanks for your effort to make this video. I do enjoy your channel. Although I understand your reasoning for laptop/desktop choices, I can't help but think all the units involved would have benefited from the computing power. At the very least the software process times and stability, but from my experience, you would have better scanning as well. Sidebar, it's funny, the "back button" was my suggestion to Revopoint back in the early POP1 Kickstarter period. Can't wait for further videos, as the consumer scanning segment is changing and growing almost daily. Just my 2 cents.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I understand your point on the power, and I also think you are probably right. However, the units should be judged against the manufacturers stated requirements, that should give acceptable performances. And apart from the Einstar I am thereabouts on specification. The back button is a great idea… well done! (This has now been suggested to Shining3D)

[@peterrasmussen2793]

Would be good if you could do a review of the new Mole 3D scanner and compare it with these.

[@lewdog9647]

The shiny paint might have made it hard for the scanners. A matte finish coating may have worked better.

[@nstarck]

Really great overview! I picked up a CR-Scan Lizard for a car project but was having a lot of trouble with large scans, at least it wasn't user error? I have been resorting to using 3D scanning apps on my iPad which have been working well enough as a stop gap. I would be curious to see how that stacks up against these dedicated scanners. Thanks for another great video!

[@suricateenerve165]

i want to do the same for a car use, but i think i will take the einstar. it look awesome when he scan the mini compared to others.

[@dennisfahey2379]

Scanning and post processing are independent steps. Can you compare the post processing for all three scanners with the desktop machine? You are correct that the variance SHOULD only be processing time but its possible that having GPU/CUDA cores may actually afford better results etc. It would be interesting to know. It really depends on their implementation. For that matter importing to Blender or Meshroom may show improvements.

[@ace.mccloud5425]

If you come across something about Post Processing for all 3 Scanners .... Please share it

[@scottrill2]

Some of the inconsistencies amaze me. On the cooper panel, sometimes you use AESUB, crumpled blanket etc, and on others like the lizard, you did not. On the 1-2-3 blocks, was AESUB used? Did you do it on a turn table?

[@kenkaufman6367]

Great info, thanks for putting in the work for those of us that are having a hard time deciding which scanner would be most useful. next time please move your beverage to another location other than the left side of my screen.... I kept reaching for it! 😂

[@geemunney]

Great video, helping me to narrow it down. Thanks!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Glad it was helpful!

[@saakha4924]

Thank you for time you took to make this informative vd

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Thank you very much! And it did talk a little while…

[@rushboardtechuk]

It is always a fear when you buy a consumer scanner whether they will be good - after seeing this comparison, I am glad the Lizard I bought performs as well as it does vs competitors. That said, I may invest in an Einstar later, for larger scans.

[@mikasivula654]

Have you tried throwing a wet newspaper on top of the fender for tracking? It should be quite thin and has a lot of trackable stuff on it (at least on photo mode, not sure about the geometry mode).. anyways, a good comparison, thanks for it 👍

[@MakingforMotorsport]

For texture tracking that could work well… excellent tip!

[@lokom18]

thx, ill go with einstar

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Don’t blame you… it’s a good choice!

[@5Komma5]

Thank you very much for the overview. Now I know that I don't have to waste my money. Most of my designs are small but somewhat complex. I need a scanner that can pickup threads and be precise enough that the threads work. A scanned and printed M4 bolt needs to screws into a purchased M4 nut. Preferably even finer threads. Hopefully we can get something like this in a few years.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

None of these are what you want, the RevoPoint Mini might be a better fit. That said, I have no idea why you want scan threads and then just print them. Features like that will always better to measure with a thread gauge, and then re-model using a thread feature on the CAD. All you really need from the scan is the centreline…

[@clutchboi4038]

There is no scanner technology available that can scan threads especially that small lol. What you would do is use a scanner to get a point cloud for overall bolt length and diameter then use that data to recreate threads in a CAD program. I rent the bigger expensive laser scanners for work and even on max definition it wouldn't produce useable threads that small.

[@qta4425]

@@MakingforMotorsport That's very true. Something like an M4 bolt could be easily created in a CAD program such as OpenSCAD using the Threads library and printed in just a few minutes with excellent results. Non standard threads are trickier and require creating your own linear extrusion model, but still much easier than trying to use a 3D scanner. Great video by the way. I have been using the Mole scanner which is similar to the Lizard and it seems to work well (for small parts).

[@Dave-ni4vg]

Thanks so much for this info and advice !!!!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

You,re welcome Dave… glad you enjoyed it!

[@zackoin]

Now that I’m about to get my hands on a Einstar, 3Dmakerpro have the Mole coming out. I don’t know if it will be in the same price range or a comparison between the two would be possible soon.

[@francisgaucher8756]

Excellent video. I am looking for the 3D scanner that would be optimal for making busts, which I will print with bronze filament. A suggestion? - Thanks.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Check out my other videos, the Range2 looked pretty good on people’s faces

[@chrisbaker9307]

Great video, nice job on the different scans. I own a Creality CR Scan 01 and have had very few problems with my scans, the issues arise from the software used to "clean-up" scans or mesh scans. I am currently using Meshlab or WireMesh depending on what I am working on, but they are both extremely time consumptive and a pain in the ___ to work with. If you don't have any experience with working with this type of software, GET HELP! This is NOT a point and click situation. This also takes immense amounts of time to get combined scans to create a finished piece that can be printed and have a worthwhile outcome. Again, your video is great and explains a lot of the difficulties people may have when using anyone of these scanners. Great job!!! Keep up the great work. Oh and drink a pint for us!!!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Cheers for the great comment Chris, it’s absolutely right, this tech is nowhere near point and shoot! (And I have a glass of hydration in my hand now!)

[@jschlaghecke]

I just received the CR-Scan 01 and I've tried to get it to work on 3 different computers. No luck, every time, I get 'scanner failed to connect'. All computers have USB3 ports so that can't be the problem. Not very user friendly, I'd say.

[@FNU_SNU]

Thank you so much. I was eagerly waiting for this video. Still I´m not sure which way to go for my current project. I want a 3D model of a vintage motorcycle engine case/ the case halves as a backup to eventually have one machined if (more like when) the casting fails which is common in that engine under moderate power increase. The Einstar seems to be where it´s at accuracy wise but not for the intricate details since it´s long range. Also it´s quite an investment and I wonder how much a scan done as a service with a five figure scanner would be in comparison. Keep up the great work. Your videos got me excited about CAD.

[@JSunBurns]

Can you compare the Revopoint Range, Revopoint mini, and the new Creality Ferrret scanners?

[@angieangie21]

Great comparison.! Do you have any advice where one can learn post processing techniques and software to use for cleaning up scans. I find there is only snippets of details on how to do this correctly and this is where I struggle. Thanks

[@cclark-p2q]

Can you add the raptor scanner to your comparison document ?

[@AlienRelics]

so the Einstar is the best, but it says the computer requires an Nvidia graphics card and it must be connected to be used? The Creality CR-scan can be used wireless with a phone. Some of what I need to do is scan car panels (dash, roof, etc) so that makes a huge difference to me.

[@stefanedwards2732]

Thanks, this is very helpful

[@mohamedrasheed201]

What is the best one please

[@fortnightking8597]

Really helped me, thanks 🙏 .

[@lancenorthey1282]

so short answer... what do you want a scanner for? pop2 or lizard for small and einstar for big if you can power it...

[@ernestoditerribile]

I don't get why you don't do better scanners than these. Like a Lec3d Simscan, a Fuji Lanovia(Bit cheaper) or a HP David setup. This way you get good scans every time with perfect STL files.

[@jonwebb9261]

Great video as always. Very very well structured and clear! Just one note, you can alter the lizards calibration file as it's stored on the USB stick you received with it. However, good luck understanding it! I scanned a half metre step gauge with mine and I found it to gain around 0.05mm of linear error over each 30mm distance. So just a linear scaling issue but I haven't managed to adjust my calibration file to make up for it yet.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

That is weird that you got a linearly scaled error but mine felt more like an offset error… I haven’t tried to hack the lizard… maybe in the future?!

[@jonwebb9261]

@@MakingforMotorsport do you mean the offset doesn't change over linear distance? That sounds like an even easier equation to solve. I haven't looked if the community have worked out how to do it yet but it's definitely worth a look.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Yeah, my tests showed 0.4mm error over the 3” and 1” dimensions with the 123block

[@MakingforMotorsport]

The Einstar however gave 0.3% error consistently, that was only 0.07mm on the 1” dimension

[@jonwebb9261]

@@MakingforMotorsport trying to decide which of these errors I'd rather have. With the consistent errors you could just scale your point cloud if it's consistent in all directions.

[@gunlover7851]

For over all scanning auto interiors to make speaker boxes what do you feel would be best?

[@bastienrondet5433]

Hi guys. I have a company, I'm fabricating the best strut bars in the world. I want to speed up my prototyping process by scanning engine bays, the Einstar seems to be the best for it. What do you think about this choice ?

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I think it would be a great choice 👍

[@MrGTAmodsgerman]

What i missed here is texture quality comparsion. But i think you still did a very good video. Keep it up!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Yeah, textures I think is a whole other video 😳

[@Bravetruckparts]

Which resolution did you use in Einstar when you were scanning the car front?

[@fatheadvideollc]

I'll be doing another test this coming week with the Einstar against the 3DMakerPro Whale. The whale was supposed to basically be a combination of the CR-01 & Lizard but so far my results aren't showing that. I'll be scanning in a small aspirin bottle 33mm X 56mm up to my whole smart car outside plus I will make the files available for people to check out themselves. I'm not being paid and I'm NOT going to hold back when I call something garbage and why as I'm tired of BS reviews and misleading advertising and only showing the good bits without the toiling you might have to do to get that as well.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I have a whale on the way… I was contacted months ago and they said it’ll cost £7k… there was no other info so I thought it was a windup… looks like a proper product tho. A Lizard and CR01 in a single machine actually would be good if the price was right. We’ll see how it goes…

[@petrspacek5688]

great video, unfortunately my english is not so good to clearly understand which of the scanners is the best. I need to scan mainly parts for machines and engines. Is Einstar or Lizard better??? thank you very much! I subscribe :)

[@sergeyzett6948]

I used the CR-01, it doesn't even come close to producing such a scan quality. There can be no question of any sensitivity of 0.1 mm! 3-4mm is more realistic. Too perfect in this video. It is clear that you will not cheat - you will not sell)

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Hi Sergey, this video took long enough to make without the faff off making stuff up as well…. Trust me, this is absolutely 100% real…

[@plameterms7972]

Does the hardware of the laptop/pc do anything for the quality of the scan or just the processing time? I reckon not ,but doesnt hurt to ask.

[@davecoggan9619]

If you don't have enough ram for the einstar you will suffer on car body scans. It will likely fail and say you've run out of memory. GPU is important also. My specs i5 8600k CPU 1080ti GPU 32gb ram M.2 Samsung 970 pro Seems to manage but it's still hungry for more ram. CPU screams at 100% also. I am in the process of affording the latest i7 13th gen with 64gb ddr5 ram. Will be keeping the 1080ti as its only fully loaded at 60% max. I am wondering if a seperate m.2 SSD just for scans will help take the load off the operating system and CPU but I can't prove that yet If I try to scan the whole front end of the car. I will need to chop away half of it away to get it to process the point cloud. Alternatively I could be clever and just scan 1/4 of the car at a time and stitch them together in another software. Just have to account for overlap of the scan data to get it it aligned with each segment

[@plameterms7972]

@@davecoggan9619 i see, hope my gtx1650 will be good enough, only 16 ram though... also do all scanners work better in the dark or just the one from the video?

[@davecoggan9619]

@@plameterms7972 regards to GPU. You should be fine The only scanner that will scan outdoors in daylight is the einstar without any quality loss. It truly blew me away scanning my car in daylight Pop2 and cr-scan definitely won't scan in daylight without alot of noise. Not sure about the lizard

[@daverivera7317]

Recently I've tried Scanning with my phone a shiny object Took hundreds of pics , loaded them into the rendering program noly to be thwarted by the metallic paint. Have you tested the Scanners for reflected surfaces? I used Mehlab program.

[@SantaDragon]

17:35 "Sehr gut" - like it xD

[@TheBopper77]

Awesome video cheers, the Einstar is the only one I don't own. (I have pop1, pop2, CRscan 01 & lizard). Of the ones I own, pop2 is usually my go to scanner. Would love to see some more small object scans from the Einstar (I understand this isn't it's strength area but it's what I usually scan & the one scan you did looked pretty reasonable). Would have been interesting to see how a two position scan on the small figurine with pop2 would have turned out as I think it was only one position? Would have picked up the overhangs at least... Cheers

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Yeah, I would have done more on each scan, but, honestly I was limited by time… with scanning and editing I have easily spent 30hrs on this video, so I had to pick and choose… if it was a decent scan straight away, I took it and moved on, unless it was super easy (like with the lizard) to do 2. I do call it in the video tho, a second scan would tidy all of that up…

[@martmccars166]

which one is best for engine bay scanning?

[@TravisFabel]

Man... I'd love to be able to rationalize the price of any of those. It would be awesome to be able to scan my car and my motorcycle for designing parts.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I’ll be honest, if I didn’t have the channel, I’d be in the same place… although there are some cheaper options I intend to explore…