Makita 40v Max Complete Battery Line Up | 2.0Ah VS 2.5Ah VS 4.0Ah VS 5.0Ah Which is best?

Makita 40v Batteries now number 4! Makita XGT Batteries available at the time of this video include 2.0Ah, 2.5Ah, 4.0Ah and the new monster 5.0Ah! It may weigh more than some tools you put it on, but how much better is it???
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[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

With the New 8Ah battery kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYCxZKqpnaZ1r8k

[@willisfleming2893]

"The 'F' I assume stands for, Fucking big battery" - absolute gold 🤣

[@Sol-hl2rj]

Power management in the tool, the tool won’t draw more than what’s determined by the on board controller. Milw.. just don’t have power management. Festool and Panasonic is the only that does what Makita do, only even slightly better. Makita has stated run time as the most important feature of its 40V Max.

[@darthtrump4428]

thanks for review you solidified my opinion its best to have multiple 2,5ah batteries and to change them, rather than having few 5ah batteries, you have same power but way less weight, and pricewise you are in same situation

[@parisstamatiou9843]

Great video review as always!! Keep it up! I thank you for making me a believer of Makita power tools! They are great power tools!

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Thanks for watching!

[@saiiiiiii1]

A few days ago I was joking about batteries getting as big as a Systainer in 2024.... I think we're right on course 😂😂

[@misha030302]

DeWalt just came out with the 15ah, so they are slowly getting there

[@user-fo2vr5qz2l]

But that battery really looks amusing and a bit ugly))

[@misha030302]

@@user-fo2vr5qz2l True, don't really understand why go bigger. If you really need more power and run time 2x system is a bit better

[@misha030302]

@An Orange I have a friend who just loves giant batteries. He uses his 9ah on the impact and drill. Those type of people buy them. The real workers might not always need the extra power and would prefer a lighter tool for a whole day use.

[@user-fo2vr5qz2l]

@@misha030302 and then you can see and read some comments or custumer reviews around the Internet like I love this bc I need to recharge this only two times a month it's awesome)

[@AndreasKristiansen]

Thank you for a great review! Exactly what I was looking for.

[@mrclive5]

There are two C ratings associated with lithium cells, charge and discharge. If they've fitted the smaller packs with higher C rated discharge cells, that'll explain why the smaller packs are packing such a punch.

[@Whisky_Four-Three]

the 2.5 always seamed to be the way to go. soooooooo thanks for the verification. very greatly appreciated

[@geoffstrickler]

Notes on batteries. Current 4Ah 21700 cells (Samsung -40T) don’t deliver power as consistently as the -30T or the available 2.0/2.5Ah 18650 cells (e.g. Samsung -20R, 25R, 20S, 25S) this makes batteries using 21700-30T cells (3.0 & 6.O “high output” type) the ones that can deliver the most power, while those using -40T cells and 18650 (20R/25R) cells a half step behind, unless you stack 3+ rows of them as in the M18 9.0Ah and the Makita 40V 5.0. I don’t know if any batteries are currently using the newest generation of cells (e.g. Samsung 18650-20S/25S), but those should be able to deliver more power as well. It’s possible these are what are used in the Makita 40V 2.5 and/or 5.0, and perhaps AEG/Ridgid’s new “Maximum output” batteries, but I don’t have any confirmation of that. That aside, I wouldn’t consider any RPM differences or slight drops in RPM with batteries freshly charged batteries to be a useful indicator as much of that can be due to differences in individual cells, wear level, and charge voltage. It also depends on how the charger indicates the battery is “full” and whether it continues to trickle charge after indicating “full”. It might be a useful indicator if all batteries have been charged fewer than about 20 times, were all charged on the exact same charger (or at least exact same model), and were all removed from charging approximately the same number of minutes after the charger showed full. A more useful test would be to test them after using the battery for some short (~30 second) light/medium duty task, which should help mitigate any differences in individual cell max voltage and charger voltage differences.

[@geoffstrickler]

@@georgedavall9449 thanks. Note that several companies make cells comparable to the Samsung 18650 cells, the Samsung are just best known and use the simplest model number scheme, so that’s what I used as examples.

[@user-fo2vr5qz2l]

Yeap, makita uses new generation of cells so bl4050 has ur18650 vtc5a and 4025 has it too or new samsung version

[@saiiiiiii1]

@@user-fo2vr5qz2l wait the newest vtc5 would be the vtc5d and that's already on the market for years

[@BLAZEPSI]

This helps me decide on battery. Tnx...

[@kenleach2516]

Awesome to see, I still 18v lxt kit. But seeing value 40v max for bigger new tools, ie Chainsaw so won't buy 36v (18v twin) going forward.

[@johnger850305]

Very easy to understand for a Makita beginner like me, thanks a lot!

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

You are welcome!

[@jompy151]

Another great video thank you 👍 So my 4ah's are great for the mitre saw 👍

[@StrongmanLovesAnimals]

Great information here, thanks. Stick to the 2.5ah.

[@CP-kb1du]

Power is not the all , run time is when your doing a big project like a Fence Build

[@d.k.1394]

That 5ah battery is a BEAST

[@d.k.1394]

They are a very pretty battery

[@out_on_bail]

The 5ah will be good for the makita blower. The 18v blower runs out so quick on the 18v 5ah

[@robertrada6040]

One issue with the big three (Milwaukee, Makita and Dewalt) having all of these different physical sizes of batteries is that they’re also still artificially marking them up to make combo kits and free battery giveaway promotions look like a “great deal”. So that puts the customer at a stalemate because whichever bundle or promo doesn’t include the particular physical size they require for their personal needs then they will likely forego making a purchase until “the right time” (which may be never).

[@hobbes3]

Ya, it's soooo bad to buy batteries separately since it'll usually cost more than the tool itself lol. So you're forced to wait for that deal or wait like you said.

[@remedy7295]

Maybe it is because of the cells wiring or/and a programmed board that to regulate voltage from a battery to a motor so the motor does not overheat or overpower.. maybe some tools that have bigger motors are with 5ah as power can flow with less restriction

[@khuongathebounga4141]

Thanks for the review. Would you ever consider testing different brand impact bits?

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

I consider lots of things all the time, and yes that is one of them. But I may never get around to it...

[@pugadon]

I think that the larger capacity batteries make sense for tools such as the split-shaft unit which drains the 2.5Ah pretty quickly. I would be interested to know if the 5Ah provides a notable gain in runtime over 2x2.5Ah on high drain tools due to the reduced loading on the individual cells.

[@kenleach2516]

I thinking similar, high loads tools won't stress bigger voltage batteries as much, longer life than 18v. But have all 18v at moment

[@brianf9619]

FINALLY , someone who Agrees with Me as to Why the Makita LXT 18v line has Never UpGraded their Batteries , they Screwed themselves with the placement of the batteries on the 18v X 2 / 36v tools , a Bigger 21700 celled battery simply Would Not Fit on those tools , But Makita does Now have the option of Stacked Lithium batteries that Will Fit on those tools , it will be Very Interesting to see if Makita will go that route and would Definitely Rejuvenate Interest in the Line and make Existing Fans Very Happy..... Common Makita !!!

[@d.k.1394]

I think they all look pretty

[@stankolodin5586]

2:09 can you do video on the cells?

[@kyleesson6174]

I wanna see this same test put to work with the 3/4 impact driver vs 24mm structural bolts. I've got multiple 4amp hours but would like to know if there's a more suitable bigger battery with more oomph or work time

[@georgedavall9449]

Cheers Mate! Loved the Intro on this one! Your Country is gorgeous! I’d like to offer up my opinion on the batteries, but Makita has left me scratching my head? Big a Fan here of the Teal, but I don’t get their thinking on batteries and cells? 🤔😳🙄 That 4.0 Ah should do better but doesn’t? Weird!? Regarding the saw Id almost think Id like the big 5.0, as the workpiece is supporting the tool, mostly, and it clearly had an edge in your test. Maybe on a grinder, or a shop vac or blower, but not on ant drill or impact. GREAT video, and Thanks for the effort and expense put forth! Everybody Please hit that Like button. Cheers! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👏🏻😁 🇳🇿 🇺🇸

[@CSLFiero]

If i were a Milwaukee fanboy is live that 5ah. But I'm a makita fanboy so actually i like the svelte 18v

[@jagenaught]

Still waiting for the electronic clutch comparison between Makita and DeWalt combu drills.

[@karlrance7669]

Does the Makita drop to a level say 4300 then hold there until it runs out ????? yep there always another question no matter how thorough you are

[@halogamerdude41]

the 2.0ah is IPX4 rated unlike all the other batteries

[@MuxaH81]

Спасибо за полезную информацию, удачи

[@ryanslut5607]

2ah could be for radio vacuum low power tools? Should have put mawalki concrete battery pack beside them fora laugh. Love the 40v range tho. Still like some of the 36v makita too.

[@chrislowther2615]

Great info thanks. Do you think I ‘get away’ with using the 2.5 batteries on the 40v plunge saw and still get good performance? Short amounts of work on dry hardwood/workshop environment. Thanks

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Yeah, in short bursts through not too thick stock should be alright. The best battery to use on that saw now will be this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKXVZ6mgbbR4n7s

[@dreamcat4]

this might sound like a bit difficult unlikely request... but maybe you can ask a local supplier over there in NZ to import some Flex tools from Lowes USA? they have some b2b export service for international businesses. which seems to be the only way to get hold of them. at least initially after launch

[@paedahe4975]

Can’t you order them off Amazon and have them imported that way? I’ve bought off Amazon Australia to the U.S. recently and things went smooth.

[@wearetheremnants1615]

I've found the 5amp is needed for the 10 1/4 circular saw..

[@brucesaxton3625]

Thanks!

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Right Back at ya!

[@uberwayz]

Forget the 5ah! The 4ah 40v battery is about the absolute limit size wise that I'm willing to put up with. To be honest I half wish I'd have just of bought an absolute load of 2.5ah batteries instead

[@mohammedisaa9952]

Buy a corded and a little gennie, you will be far happier than a bin bag full of 2.5ah batts that you will throw away after 2 years of max discharge and fast re-charge uses......

[@oscartrain1151]

Great review. I have never understood why Milwaukee and DeWalt ever thought giant batteries on hand tools was a good idea the 2.5 ah seems the best choice. 18volt x 2 always seemed like the best idea in most cases and I was often bewildered by reviewers hostility to this. Not sure in this case why Makita have not made a compact size 2.5 or 3.0 ah 18 volt battery yet (Hikoki have one). Also: If the best battery is the 2.5 ah and the 5ah is just two of them for extra run time applications; why not make batteries where the bottom of the battery is a battery mount similar to that on the tool so that one could just run them in series? And Makita: Stick vac and nail gun soon please

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

The 40v stick vac is already out. I've reviewed it and compared to the 18v. Don't hold your breath on the framing nailer.

[@reaperreaper5098]

You say that as if Milwaukee and Dewalt have completely dropped small batteries from their lineups, when that's definitely not the case. Mils makes a compact 3Ah pack not much bigger than their older 2.0s but can provide the output of their 5.0. Dewalt makes a compact 4.0 that's similarly just a bit bigger than the 1P 18650 and has the output of their 2P 18650 pack. That's the big benefit of 21700s, much more power with not that much bigger packages. Whereas Makita can't do that, not without making those batts incompatible with the 18Vx2 tools. That has effectively caused Makita's battery tech in 18V stagnate, and hindered the potential for improvement in many of their tools. And most reviewers don't like the 18Vx2 because other companies have proven they can make the same power in a single pack that still runs on their 18v/20v lines. I'd even go as far to say that instead of praising it as the be all, end all solution, Makita fans should accept that 18Vx2 was an okay implementation of a really good idea that needs improvement, and essentially demand Makita do better on future implementations. Namely, clearance to expand pack sizes on the x2 tools moving forward, and not have a repeat of falling behind like they did with the 21700 proliferation in the market.

[@ttmitcham]

"Fresh off the charger" performance advantage is likely due to temperature. Li-Ion batteries have an "ideal" temperature range for optimal current draw, and part of what the chargers do is condition the batteries by keeping them at a nominal temperature to receive max charge rate, which also likely means optimal discharge rate. The ones that sit around are cooler and will yield less performance.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

They have a higher voltage when fresh off the charger. They drop a lot over the first 48hrs.

[@jumb0juice327]

So basically 2.0ah - no need to purchase 2.5ah - lightweight with moderate load (drills, circular saws, sawzall, bandsaw, etc.) 4.0ah - stationary tools with minimal load, needing longer run time (lights, radios, fans) 5.0ah - heavy battery for heavy load (mitre saw, table saw, sds hammer drills, and all day cutting with circular saws) Am i thinking that correctly? The video suggests and shows that more AH doesnt always mean more power. However im curios to know how the run times correspond. Do 2x 2.5ah last longer than a 5? Since the 4 produces less power does it potentially last longer than a 5 on certain tools?

[@vagrant1943]

If the tool is stationary you may as well go for the biggest one in my opinion.

[@p24t]

Will Makita make a backpack adapter for the 40V lineup as well? And will you be able to move while wearing it with six or eight 5ah 40V packs on it?

[@user-fo2vr5qz2l]

The backpack is already made but it's not for 40 line batteriesto set them inside . It's a new backpack with a lot if cells 18650 inside of it. About 40ah 40v and it can use with any tools 40v:) all day really all day but price idk it's gonna be realised soon i guess

[@nozzlepie]

My guess would be that the high end 21700 are going to higher cost devices (cars etc) rather than 18650, so the comparitive current draw of the 21700 is lower. I would guess Makita have a ton of 2Ah 18650 that was for the 18V 4Ah that seemed most common in kits. So they can use up cells they've contracted to buy in the new line too. Probably healps with availability too. When I've been looking for batteries the 18V 5Ah is always the best Wh/£. Deffo agree on the 2.5Ah 40V being the way to go. I have 4x5Ah and 2x3Ah for my 36V split shaft brushcutter, and with 4 chargers that's continuous use.

[@mohammedisaa9952]

That must cost alot of money,..... couldnt you hve used a corded tool, and buy a generator for a lot less, and the gennie will last far longer lifetime then batteries that are super discharged, then fast charged back up again?.....

[@nozzlepie]

@@mohammedisaa9952 Maybe, but a generator and petrol storage is pretty expensive too though. Though my priorities are more ease of use and comfort over cost and it's not like I purchased the batteries just for this, I use a number of other 18V Makita tools too.

[@Zozo806]

Please check out the new Bosch GSR/GSB 18V 150C. On specs it will be the strongest hammer drill on the market

[@haydn10101]

I usually buy the 2ah they are half the cost of the 2.5s here in the UK. £50 vs over 100 usually

[@louismachin9681]

I've been thinking about doing the same, any real difference between them and the other batteries? I don't expect much to be different if I'll just be using them on the drill/impact

[@marcberlin1229]

Thanks for the great videos. Keep ‘em coming! For the 8.5” makita XGT miter saw, would you still recommend the 2.5 over the 4 or 5 amp hour.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

I use 4s on mitre saws now as I have so many of them. Check out my vid on the new high output 4Ah battery.

[@marcberlin1229]

Thanks for the super quick reply! I’ll look for your video on the 4amp hour high output.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKXVZ6mgbbR4n7s

[@marcberlin1229]

Thanks for the link. Very informative video and I’m sold in the “F” model battery. Only problem is that I can’t seem to find them in Canada. Are these very new? Wondering if they’ve just not been rolled out to the Canadian market yet. ​@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

@@marcberlin1229 Yes they are very new. Not available in most of the world yet, certainly not North America. You should get them before the US, but it still may be up to 6 months away.

[@RegisG.]

Why the 5Ah battery is your favorite 18V battery?

[@Grumleyf]

how does the tools feels like with the big boy one? handlingwise ?

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

The 125mm grinder feels better balanced with the large battery than the smaller ones.

[@riba2233]

2.0ah looks very good (faster on circular saw test?), and it is less then half the price of 2.5ah, hmmm...

[@julianweiser9985]

The total amount of charges till death ~1000-2000 is way better if you have multiple small batteries than just 1 or 2 big ones that may fail and then you are left with nothing.

[@mohammedisaa9952]

Sooooo, guarantees/warranties are no good ?

[@user-fo2vr5qz2l]

2015-2020 on youtube any blogger. let's start cutting everything to make a review of new tools. It was just millions of cuts. 2021 when lumber costs much more expensive. Let's try to cut only one cut included every batteries to compare the power:)

[@jimmymac601]

Lumber is the new bitcoin.

[@risto9991]

Seems like the 2,5 ah and the 5 ah is the way to go on 40v line. Thanks

[@ronhau1542]

May be a rookie question but am I doing any harm to the battery if I charge it when it’s not completely dead?

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

That's fine. It's actually better for the lithium batteries that you don't run them flat.

[@julianweiser9985]

@@ronhau1542 Optimal is 20-80%, basically the more in the middle, the better.

[@kizzjd9578]

Hikoki japan just released a cordless fridge which looks identical to the makita one. See if you can find some info on it. Its all in katakana language though.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Yeah I saw it about a week ago. Hikoki is following Makita on a few things recently. The new impact is very Makitaesk looking.

[@kizzjd9578]

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL that was my thoughts too. Also the rotary hammer drill as well. I wonder if they are sharing designs

[@jps101574]

That must the first to feature 4 rows of cells in any battery

[@riba2233]

Dewalt 15ah has 30 2.5ah cells, in 15s2p config lol

[@babu7141]

Nice vid! What's the run time on a 2.5Ah?

[@mohammedisaa9952]

Depends what tool you use, a blower will do a few minutes, and a torch will do a couple of days.....

[@user-zl3mn1pt8p]

I just bought a 40V Makita circular saw (270mm). Which battery is good? To cut the sleeper.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

8Ah, then 5Ah or new High Output 4Ah.

[@alexmills1329]

yeah the 4 ah 21700 cells are limited by their current output pretty similarly to 3 ah 18650 cells. The interesting thing is Makita never really pushed the 6.0 battery packs because of the lower discharge of the cells, but they are okay with it with the bigger batteries

[@kizzjd9578]

Thats why the 40v max 5ah is using 20x 2500mah 18650 cells. If they used 3000mah cells, they wouldnt get the 40amp continuous discharge rating.

[@brettwalkom948]

@@kizzjd9578 I'm pretty sure that's why they're using the 21700s in the 4ah because a 4ah 18650 wouldn't have the jam

[@kizzjd9578]

@@brettwalkom948 Not sure how they all work. The 2ah, 2.5ah, and 5ah 40vmax batteries use 18650 cells yet the 4ah uses the 21700 cells lol. Seems backwards to me.

[@brettwalkom948]

@@kizzjd9578 yeah I reckon it's cos you'd need 4ah 18650s to make the 4 ah battery.. The bigger the capacity the less current output.. So they probs had to use the 21700 cells

[@kizzjd9578]

@@brettwalkom948 yea, bu the thing is, they went to the new batteries because they couldnt charge the 1850s any faster and couldnt get any more current from them. Yet they are doing it with the 40v max range lol

[@yehornaumov5893]

I wondered is it's good idea to put heavy 5ah battery on impact wrench 3/4 or just use 4ah.

[@karlrance7669]

would the number of charges reduce the life of the battery? meaning the 50ah may have a better life cost ratio?

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Yes and potentially.

[@joedirt6699]

Any plans to test the new 8ah xgt battery?

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Yes.

[@d.k.1394]

I want to see an 8ah makita battery

[@heldert6231]

I bet you they'll weight more when charged!😉

[@TonyMalony834]

Any news on a makita 40v table saw??

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

No.

[@TakamiWoodshop]

you could power your freakin' house off that thing! Like you can off the new fully electric Ford F150.

[@sosiboy]

Hey bro would you say the 40v 2.5ah is equivalent to a 18v 5ah battery?

[@riba2233]

It has more power, they use better cells

[@Jadeoss87]

Question, late to the party but about to pick up the 40v power head with all attachments for home use, is it better to run 5ah on those kinda tools? Already have the mower and these batteries 2x8ah, 2x4ah, 2x2.5ah should I just add two 5ah to the collection? 😂 Any info would be great thanks.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

If you've got 8s and 4s I wouldn't bother with a 5

[@Jadeoss87]

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I get a 5 with the kit anyway, so I get enough store credit for another battery, is one 5ah enough? Maybe get a 3rd 4ah, high performance one?

[@Irresponsibleful]

You know they could just do 10AH 18v and runtimes would be similar... Weights also

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

But they wouldn't fit on half the tools.

[@sadiporter2966]

I presume the 2.0ah will sell at a lower cost in order to help people to jump ship to 40v.

[@robertrada6040]

2.0 is what will go into the Home Depot endcap

[@reaperreaper5098]

@@robertrada6040 Good joke. Home Depot's not interested in selling Makita's XGT line in store, for a few reasons. Biggest being that they're trying to push Milwaukee as their premium brand, second biggest being XGT doesn't have the potential audience to justify carrying them in store, part of which is because of the price premium and the limited offerings right now. No, the 2.0 is currently being paired with the stick vac, which realistically doesn't need the bigger batts. Major reason I can see for this is likely 2Ah cells being available pretty cheaply, relative to even 2.5Ah cells, which would allow Makita offer it for a lower price than they could with 2.5s and still profit.

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

With added advertisements, I've just spent 25 minutes watching a video about batteries by an Antipodean, and I thoroughly enjoyed it⁉️ Anyway, enough introspection, it's time to get back to watching that paint dry‼️ Life in the fast lane‼️

[@jpbiscaro8694]

It would be nice if makita copied milwaukees top off adapt with these bigger batteries coming out

[@Andrew-xd9fg]

Why would there be a big power boost with the 5ah ? It’s designed for longer runtime

[@danpug89]

More cells meaning each cell is doing less work.

[@christianness8983]

Sooooooo.....if the 5.0 is using 18650 cells then maybe Makita is leaving room for a 6.0 using 21700 cells??? That's a thought.

[@EVnewbie]

Heard a rumor that Makita will be offering the 40V 8Ah packs--is that true? Basically, 20 of them 21700's 10S/2P for very long run times. I have a Makita 36V X2 with two 5 amp hour batteries and besides having to put two batteries in (Waaaaaa!) if Makita stops at 5Ah then--they have achieved nothing. Heck, they can always use 26650 cells if they want taller, more capacity but same width with the 18V line. :D My next move won't be to 40V, it will be a few years when the Tesla 4680 cells (9Ah) become available--very high C rate (amp ability) and will last at least 5 to 10 times as long as Li-Mn so the battery will outlast the tool. Either that or LiFePO4 cells like DeWalt used back in 2006 (36V max) I still use that LiFePO4 battery (made by A123 Systems) 15 years later on my circ saw and recip saw. I own Makita and they do well with battery protection but if the 40V Max holds at 5Ah--same as the 36V X2 I wonder what is the point? OK, I can see using two of them for higher power...table saws and jack hammers but I like to use my 18V impact driver with the 2.5Ah battery to make it very compact/light weight--can't do that with the 40V Max. Maybe Makita is restricted on the 21700's so the 8Ah pack will have to wait?

[@user-fo2vr5qz2l]

When I saw the 5ah battery for the first time I thought they need to make 8ah battery it makes really sence and excuse for this new 40v, to make big wrench and something like that tools for only one battery. Flex already has 12ah included 18cells*21700,

[@EVnewbie]

@@user-fo2vr5qz2l True! The 5Ah 40V and two 5Ah 18V for 36V X2 are basically the same so the real reason for the big forty is even more capacity like the 8Ah with 20 21700's.... any indication from Makita when/if that will happen?

[@user-fo2vr5qz2l]

@@EVnewbie who knows) we'll know it maybe in a couple of years, but now I have plans to go on enjoying 18v tools despite lack of batteries included 21700, and I'd like to buy a few tools if I have this opportunity, and btw AliExpress now has boxes for 21700 cells :) for makita I guess it'll be popular in the future

[@EVnewbie]

@@user-fo2vr5qz2l I'm with you there, my 18V Makita drills/impacts with the 5Ah packs work very well with great run time. I might get the 2.5Ah just to lighten it up and make it more compact. I'm actually going even more compact with a 10.8V oscillating saw with 2Ah battery to fit it in tighter spaces, cut weight and be much more comfortable. The giant 40V 2.5Ah oscillating saw is too heavy, too bulky and would be too fatiguing to use so I'm going the other way. My view is the 40V is for high power/ultra long runtime tools (outdoor power equipment, table saws, jack hammers etc.) so I would want monster batteries for that. A nice self propelled mwer 80V max with 8Ah packs would rock out there as would a big chainsaw and a invertor for camping. Hope that Makita will roll out the 8Ah 40V packs soon, if they don't... somebody else will but I like Makita's battery management/thermal sensing and conservaive charging votages for longevity. I guss we wait... cheers!

[@skogsmats]

Heavy

[@Rando88_]

Why in crikey fuck would they make a 2.0 that is the same size as the 2.5?!?!?!

[@reaperreaper5098]

Probably cheaper to produce. Though, with other brands, the lower the Ah rating for the physical size of the battery, the higher discharge it can handle. Lower capacity cells offer typically higher discharge rates. This doesn’t matter with Makita, as they have power management features that limit how mych power many of their tools can draw.

[@paedahe4975]

The bigger batteries get the job done a wee bit faster. It’s your life. Save time, save money. Get home faster, spend more time with your family.

[@user-fo2vr5qz2l]

It's really nice for circular saw maybe or something like that powerful, but for drill or any not heavy tools it's probably tiring. You will work a bit faster and get tired of work a bit earlier)

[@paedahe4975]

@@user-fo2vr5qz2l Very true... burnout is a factor in battery selection.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

The 5Ah balances the 125mm grinder nicely. I was using it today and when I changed to the 2Ah it made the grinder front heavy. Whereas the 5Ah put the centre of gravity right where your hand is making it nicer on the wrist.

[@paedahe4975]

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Good to know👍Thank you.

[@sensorequipment8283]

Recharge faster. Batterypack contact current limit IS the limit here. It heats less due to its resistance at lower currents. It's agnostic to voltage. Simpler chargers - due to the same reason. Motors can be better controlled speed wise. Higher torque at high speed needs more voltage, due to the motor's reactance, which adds to resistance, forming overall impedance. The reactance part is proportional to the speed of the motor, i.e. frequency. I bet this is the reason why the new UC004G has fine speed regulation, whereas its predecessors hadn't.

[@AhmedSadoon]

MAKITA needs to make a 1.0 Ah XGT battery to be light weight for impact/drill combo. 2.5Ah at 717g is still heavy. 2.0 Ah is a waste with almost no benefit over 2.5 in terms of weight.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Would need different battery technologies as the 2 and 2.5 are the smallest in size and weight you can do with the 10 cells required for 36vs

[@kevinmunz]

Seems like Makita isn't happy with the 21700 cells.

[@kizzjd9578]

Ive researched the cell data ratings of the 21700 cells. They should be able to make a 10 cell 5ah battery using 21700 cells. But instead they went with the 20 18650 2500mah cells.

[@user-fo2vr5qz2l]

@@kizzjd9578 they've used 20 ur18650 vtc5 that can give you more power than 10*21700 5ah, like dewalt in 2021 made a new 15ah battery included 30 cells 18650 for the same reason.

[@riba2233]

@@kizzjd9578 5ah 21700 cells are too weak, weaker than 4ah and much weaker than 3ah. Dewalt has a 10ah pack but idk. It would make more sense for a 40v 10ah pack though where you would have 2p config so more power per se

[@dragosbargaoanu8582]

The best is 8Ah battery, but it is very very very expensive!

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

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[@CYH.iB.]

👌🏻👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@bakedbeings]

The F stands for Final boss.

[@alphabuilders]

The 40v max cell should be 360 watt hrs no? 36*10

[@rickykang4671]

36v*4ah = 144wh

[@hubzo1]

Put a multi meter on a battery, straight off the charger and watch the voltage drop over some minutes without even using it. That will explain why the rpm drops😉

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

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[@kizzjd9578]

Fuckin big battery 😂😂

[@ahmedthasleem4627]

Maybe I'll sell my 4.0 Ah batteries 🤣🤣 I was so correct this time by buying 2 and 2.5 Ah batteries instead of 4.0Ah ... just after comparing weights and prices

[@reaperreaper5098]

I dunno, the 4Ah is a good option for run time, if you use things like the angle grinder quite a bit.

[@oh_emiko]

Can't wait to see the 12Ah 40V.... JK

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Car battery

[@mohammedisaa9952]

Soooooooo My take on this is :- The "No load" spin speeds/torque strengths/etc figures given by ANY cordless manufacturer are ALL FALSE, or are valid for only 1 second, straight off the charger.... Another way we are alll being "CONNED"...... Clearly, the specs given after the first second DROP RAPIDLY, and bear in mind, this is under "No Load"...... !!!!!!!!!!!! ☹️☹️☹️☹️

[@666Eddie123321]

18:30 that was very strange 🧐

[@Lexussss]

BL4040 and BL4050 are to big, to heavy, to expensive. Hardcore.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

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[@Lexussss]

OMG 😄

[@G11IFPS]

the 2.0 ah doesnt make any sense ^^

[@riba2233]

It does, it is half the price of 2.5 and similar power

[@G11IFPS]

@@riba2233 in europe its more expensive than the 2.5 Ah ^^ Enjoy your 40V impact with hopefully normal battery prices!

[@riba2233]

@@G11IFPS yeah prices of bare batteries are wack here in eu. But some kits with 2ah's are fairly priced, and when you spec it out 2ah's come around half the price of 2.5. But I actually made my own packs (with both 18650's and 21700's) with even more powerful cells than oem makitas with casings from ali, which are actually really good

[@seano932]

I really don't understand how 40(36 volts) at lets say 4 ah, is going to have any significant performance difference thanan 18 volt 8ah battery will provide. It's literally just doubling the voltage and halfing the amps and using bigger cells, and they have to make all the batteries bigger than their 18 volt counterparts. Meanwhile, their competition, Dewalt, uses a 60 volt flexvolt which is backward compatible and legitimately contains more cells than what an 18/36 volt battery does. While their other competition, Milwaukee FUEL, is able to keep outperform Makita 40 volt tools, e.g. their impact driver, with their 18 volt Fuel. I like Makita, but this just seems like 90% marketing wank to sell a new battery platform. The fact that they are all offering 12 volt tool lines that can perform as well as(or outperform) some 18 volt tools is further proof to me playing voltage games is less important than improved motors and electronics.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

It's not halving the amps. It's halving the amp hours. 2 very different things.

[@reaperreaper5098]

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Running 10 cells in series does halve the amps discharged, as opposed to running two sets of 5 in parallel. Wattage is what doesn't change.

[@reaperreaper5098]

Theoretically, higher voltage tools don't deal with as much transmission losses. However, running at a lower amperage also allows for smaller conductors and motors to do the same work, and heat is tied to amperage, so fewer amps discharged means less heat at the batteries, which can mean more stable power delivery.

[@nikgrekk2020]

First

[@MZARIMI]

40v 5.0Ah= 200Watt

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Nope. 180Wh

[@MZARIMI]

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Can you show me the formula how you get 180Wh?

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

I don't need to, it's printed on the battery. 18v 5Ah = 90Wh. 36v 5Ah = 180Wh.

[@keithchristiansen8542]

Did the xgt 2.0 get discontinued or something?

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Not available in most regions. Never even been released in Japan.