Top 5 Reasons Noah’s Flood Probably Happened?

[@AarmOZ84]

On the fossils, I would have included the fact all these fossils are found at different layers in the geological record. In order to be evidence of a single, global flood they would all need to found at the exact same layer regardless of where in the world you are.

[@chrislockwood2373]

And when you find large formations containing hundreds or thousands of fossilized organisms, none of them contain humans anywhere on Earth. If every human (except for Noah's family) died during the great flood you'd expect to see humans fossilized alongside dinosaurs and ammonites.

[@ttpp374]

Could the people that wrote about the flood maybe had found aquatic creature fossils on land that was submerged in the prehistoric era and led them to believe it was a flood?

[@GeoKnowLearning]

As a geologist, I found you did a great job at explaining some of these basic concepts!

[@letsomethingshine]

Basic geology 101 and the bibliolaters do not want to believe what is true about their various bible canons that differ for clear historical reasons.

[@davidjanbaz7728]

@@letsomethingshine you seem ignorant on the Biblical Canon: but that isn't surprising!

[@blllllllllllllllllllrlrlrl7059]

@@LM-jz9vh Abraham was said to be born in Ur, in Sumeria. It would make perfect sense then that those stories of the flood are the same as those in Sumerian literature.

[@LM-jz9vh]

​@blllllllllllllllllllrlrlrlrlrllrr Yes, that's what the story says, but the reality is that the Sumerians wrote these stories (myths) first and the later Israelites borrowed them and modified them for their own theological purposes. The Sumerians pre-date the Israelites and their stories in the historical record. Sumerian texts date back to 3,500 to 3,000 BCE. Abraham is said to exist around 2,300 to 2,200 BCE. There are numerous examples of the Israelites borrowing and modifying stories for their own purposes. In addition, look up the below articles. *"Yahweh was just an ancient Canaanite god. We have been deceived! - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* *"Debunking the Devil - Michael A. Sherlock (Author)"* *"The Greatest Trick Religion Ever Pulled: Convincing Us That Satan Exists | Atheomedy"* *"Zoroastrianism And Persian Mythology: The Foundation Of Belief"* (Scroll to the last section: Zoroastrianism is the Foundation of Western Belief) *"10 Ways The Bible Was Influenced By Other Religions - Listverse"* *"January | 2014 | Atheomedy"* - Where the Hell Did the Idea of Hell Come From? Watch *"The Origins of Salvation, Judgement and Hell"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica (Sensitive theists should only watch from 7:00 to 17:30 minutes as evangelical Christians are lambasted. He's a former theist and has been studying the scholarship and comparative religions for over 15 years) *"Top Ten Reasons Noah’s Flood is Mythology - The Sensuous Curmudgeon"* *"Forget about Noah's Ark; There Was No Worldwide Flood | Bible Interp"* *"The Search for Noah’s Flood - Biblical Archaeology Society"* Watch *"How Aron Ra Debunks Noah's Flood"* (8 part series debunking Noah's flood using multiple branches of science) *"The Adam and Eve myth - News24"* *"Are The Ten Commandments Based On The Forty-Two Principles Of Maat That Appeared 2,000 Years Earlier? - Ancient Pages"* *"Before Adam and Eve - Psychology Today"* *"Gilgamesh vs. Noah - Wordpress"* *"Old Testament Tales Were Stolen From Other Cultures - Griffin"* *"Parallelism between “The Hymn to Aten” and Psalm 104 - Project Augustine"*

[@LM-jz9vh]

​@@blllllllllllllllllllrlrlrl7059 Also, the ancient Israelites were Canaanites or a mix thereof. According to the general consensus of scholarship *(even critical Christian scholars),* YHWH was originally incorporated into the Canaanite pantheon as a son of the Canaanite high god El before inheriting the top spot in the pantheon and El's wife Athirat (Asherah) before religious reforms. If you want to see if El is fictional, just read his mythology in the Ugaritic/Canaanite texts. "When El was young, he came across two beautiful Goddesses washing their clothes in the Sea. They were Athirat (Asherah) and the Goddess Rahmaya, and, after buttering them up by cooking a meal for them, he asked them to choose between being his daughters or wives. They choose the latter and became the mothers of the Gods Shachar "Dawn" and Shalim "Dusk"." "I should add here that it is very clear from the grammar that the noun nachalah in v. 9 should be translated “inheritance.” *Yahweh receives Israel as his “inheritance” (nachalah), just as the other sons of El received their nations as their inheritance (nachal, v. 8).* With this verb, especially in the Hiphil, the object is always what is being given as an inheritance. Thus, Israel is given to Yahweh as his inheritance. ((Here I’m indebted to Dan McClellan.)) It would make no sense for Elyon to give himself an inheritance. Moreover, as I’ve argued elsewhere, it is not just the Gentile nations that are divided up according to the number of the sons of El. It is all of humankind, i.e., “the sons of Adam.” This clearly includes Israel. And the sons of Adam are not divided up according to the number of the sons of El, plus one (i.e., plus Elyon). They are divided up, according to the text, solely according to the number of the sons of El. *Thus, that Yahweh receives Israel as his inheritance makes Yahweh one of the sons of El mentioned in v. 8. Any other construal of the text would constitute its rewriting."* *"The Most Heiser: Yahweh and Elyon in Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 - Religion at the Margins"* based on the *majority scholarly consensus.* (Written by Thom Stark who is a Christian) *"Michael Heiser: A Unique Species? - Religion at the Margins"* (A second response to Michael Heiser) *"Excerpt from “Yahweh and the Gods and Goddesses of Canaan” by John Day - Lehi's Library."* *"The Table of Nations: The Geography of the World in Genesis 10 - TheTorah.com"* (Excluding the short narrative on Nimrod (vv. 8-12), which appears to be a later addition, Genesis 10 contains *70* names of nations or cities, a number that was symbolic of totality. Similarly, the descendants of Jacob were *70* in number (Gen 46:37; Exod 1:5), *as were the sons of the supreme Canaanite god El, with whom YHWH became equated.)* *"Mark Smith: Yahweh as El’s Son & Yahweh’s Ascendency - Lehi's Library"* (Mark Smith is a Catholic) *"God, Gods, and Sons (and Daughters) of God in the Hebrew Bible. Part III | theyellowdart"* *"02 | December | 2009 | Daniel O. McClellan - Psalm 82"* (Daniel McClellan is a Mormon) *"Elohim | Daniel O. McClellan"* (Refer to the article "Angels and Demons (and Michael Heiser)") *"God's Wife Edited Out of the Bible - Almost."* (Pay attention to whose wife Asherah (Athirat) is in the Ugaritic/Canaanite texts and how she became the wife of YHWH/Yahweh) *"Yahweh's Divorce from the Goddess Asherah in the Garden of Eden - Mythology Matters."* *"Married Deities: Asherah and Yahweh in Early Israelite Religion - Yahweh Elohim."* *"Asherah, God's Wife in Ancient Israel. Part IV - theyellowdart"* *"The Gates of Ishtar - El, was the original god of the bible."* *"The Gates of Ishtar - Anath in the Elephantine Papyri"* (It appears in addition to Asherah (Athirat) being the consort of Yahweh it also appears some Israelites also viewed the Canaanite goddess Anat(h) as Yahweh's consort) *"Canaanite Religion - New World Encyclopedia"* (Refer to the section "Relationship to Biblical Religion") *"The Syncretization of Yahweh and El : reddit/AcademicBiblical"* (For a good summary of all of the above articles) Watch Professor Christine Hayes who lectures on the Hebrew Bible at Yale University. Watch lecture 2 from 40:40 to 41:50 minutes, lecture 7 from 30:00 minutes onwards, lecture 8 from 12:00 to 17:30 minutes and lecture 12 from 27:40 minutes onwards. Watch *"Pagan Origins of Judaism"* by Sigalius Myricantur and read the description in the video to see the scholarship the video is based on. Watch *"How Monotheism Evolved"* by Sigalius Myricantur and watch up to at least 21:40. Watch *"Atheism - A History of God (The Polytheistic Origins of Christianity and Judaism)"* (By a former theist) Watch *"The Origins of Yahweh"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica.

[@nedsantos1415]

"This sounds reasonable as long as you don't think too hard about it." OMG.....the best jab ever.

[@_MADAMIMADAM_]

Religion in a nutshell. 😉

[@strappedfatman7858]

Pangea mentioned in the Bible? The Bible corresponds with the Pangaea theory when it states, "And God said, 'Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear. And it was so" (Genesis 1:9). 2 Peter 3:5 For they deliberately ignore this fact, that long ago there were heavens and an earth standing firmly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God; 6 and that by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was flooded with water.

[@emim_thinks]

This guy tried to equate hundreds of millions of years' worth of fossil records to one flood.

[@davidladow4388]

I'm guessing the guy doesn't believe the earth is hundreds of millions, let alone 4.5 billion, years old.

[@nasonguy]

My guy completely ignored things like the La Brea tar pits.

[@Starhawke_Gaming]

​@@nasonguy - and peat bogs

[@TacticusPrime]

And there are so many fossils that manifestly could not have come from a rapid event. There are literally fossilized worm burrows.

[@julianwilliams9088]

@@TacticusPrime and fossils that have been scavenged

[@imagomonkei]

It took me 30 years to leave Creationism. The indoctrination is real. 😞

[@johnburn8031]

Glad you found your way out. 🙋🏻‍♂️

[@davijimi]

​@@johnburn8031 Ihave no problem in a young earth or old but if you call the word of God indoctrination you need to review your spiritual strength

[@joelieberman-wp1hg]

​@@johnburn8031 strange..doutrination is about the woke culture not the bible so you need to think about that

[@johnburn8031]

@Davi Jimi I didn't call the Bible indoctrination. That was the OP. Young earth creationism is ridiculous as is believing in a literal world wide flood. I'm not so against old earth creationism, but I find it an unnecessary hypothesis.

[@animegtrailer5208]

​@@davijimi lmao you Christians really are something. When someone leaves the faith its because he/she didn't believe enough? Or they just got tired of living right? Am sorry but its time for people to wake up from their slumber. These fairytales needs to stop. Religion doesn't make you think logically and rationally, almost as if it enjoys you being an idiot.

[@chrisroberts5355]

I find your posts fascinating, Dan. Honest, educated, erudite critique without recouse to being patronising. One of my favourite creators on any platform.

[@aubreyleonae4108]

I feel exactly the same. Glad to have found the channel.

[@J_a_s_o_n]

​@@aubreyleonae4108 He is a satanic pawn and you fools are his subjects.😢😢😢

[@kvjackal7980]

100%

[@bigdavexx1]

As a skeptic, I've never really felt, "Yeah, but where did the omnipotent creator of the cosmos get all that water?" is a relevant objection. Clearly such a being is perfectly capable of magicing up some water. I think it's more relevant to ask, "Why bother with the water? Just poof the undesirable humans out of existence."

[@johnburn8031]

I've never understood why young earth creationists attempt to use science to justify their beliefs. As you say, why not just invoke Yahweh's -magical- miraculous powers.

[@moonshoes11]

This also leads to the obvious issue with the question of “poof or drown”

[@letsomethingshine]

@@bradleyperry1735 Does Yahweh need to eat the essence of his own foreskin also to remember himself? And drink his own ethanol-based blood?

[@nmappraiser9926]

Thanos only killed half the humans (and kittens) on the planet, and they didn't feel pain. Yahweh was much more monstrous, killing every human (and kitten) by torture.

[@james13sylar]

​@@johnburn8031 Due to criticism and mockery against them, YEC have been trying to look more serious. That's why they changed to "Intelligent Design". It would be like transphobes and homophobes re-branding themselves as, I don't know, Gender Criticals or something like that.

[@sizzaxe]

Thank you Dan, it was almost painful listening to the rather simplistic arguments you were debunking, but as usual you countered them even handedly and succinctly.

[@SuprousOxide]

It should be no surprise that flood myths are common among civilizations all over the world. People like to build cities and towns near rivers and oceans. Places near rivers and oceans often get flooded. Floods are big memorable events and can have catastrophic consequences for people living in the flooded areas, so if a big one comes through, people would tell stories about them. Stories get passed on to children, eventually you have a legend.

[@edwardmiessner6502]

Alternate theory for the ice age: long, long ago people made lots and lots of Italian Ice but nobody bought it because it wasn't flavored. The vendors kept piling it up and voila! The glaciers. 😉😁😏

[@archivalblob56]

A theory that is equally valid to the noachian deluge

[@edwardmiessner6502]

@@archivalblob56 Yep. 🙂

[@strappedfatman7858]

Adam wasn't deceived. The ground did produce thorns and thistles because Jesus worn the crown of thorns and thistles. God told Adam the prophecy of the resurrection. Genesis 3:15 The Sacrifice of Jesus was the first part of the prophecy of Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head, and you will bruise him in the heel.” Satan the Dragon and the Wild Beast the 6th Kingdom executed Jesus on their image the cross. It was the Roman Empire of Italy that is also the shape of the heel. So the first part of the prophecy is complete . Satan bruised Jesus in the heel.

[@strappedfatman7858]

The Ice Age and Sword! How about the myth of King Arthur after The Roman Empire made Christianity the State Religion. By using their image the Cross and teaching of the Trinity! Sun, moon and star worship. Revelation 17:17 The skies became darkened. In AD 536, the first of three massive volcanic eruptions ushered in a ice age. It coincided with an epidemic of the plague, the decline of the eastern Roman Empire, and sweeping upheavals across Eurasia. The 2nd seal of Revelation 6:5 When he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say: “Come!” 4 Another came out, a fiery-colored horse, and it was granted to the one seated on it to take peace away from the earth so that they should slaughter one another, and he was given a great sword. With the land bridge frozen to the Americas. Britain became the 7th Kingdom of Revelation. So what year did this Kingdom become the Wild Beast with two horns. The false prophet and wild beast arrived with the Great War of 1914.

[@judipierry549]

🤔😂 Just as plausible?

[@nedsantos1415]

Dan, your content is thoroughly addictive, educational, and fascinating.

[@J_a_s_o_n]

Satan is quite fascinating

[@calvertwilliamson4721]

⁠How so?

[@greymatter77]

The best content usually is.

[@strappedfatman7858]

How Satan is fooled! Did Satan know Jehovah God was going to resurrect Jesus from the dead! Even Satan believed " For it is Written" Satan quoted Psalms 91:11-12. Because he thought he knew the future. Lol Matthew 4:5 Then the Devil took him along into the holy city, and he stationed him on the battlement of the temple 6 and said to him: “If you are a son of God, throw yourself down, for it is written: ‘He will give his angels a command concerning you,’ and, ‘They will carry you on their hands, so that you may not strike your foot against a stone.’ 10 Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” Matthew 27:41 In the same way also, the chief priests with the scribes and the elders began mocking him, saying: 42 “Others he saved; himself he cannot save! He is King of Israel; let him now come down off the torture stake, and we will believe in him. 43 He has put his trust in God; let Him now rescue him if He wants him, for he said, ‘I am God’s Son.’” 46 About the ninth hour, Jesus called out with a loud voice, saying: “Eʹli, Eʹli, laʹma sa·bach·thaʹni?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” 47 At hearing this, some of those standing there began to say: “This man is calling E·liʹjah.” 48 And immediately one of them ran and took a sponge and soaked it in sour wine and put it on a reed and gave it to him to drink. 49 But the rest of them said: “Let him be! Let us see whether E·liʹjah comes to save him.” 50 Again Jesus called out with a loud voice and yielded up his spirit.

[@strappedfatman7858]

The Lamb of Almighty God! YHVH! Yehovah! Jehovah! Mark 16:8 In the Gospel of Mark. If the women tell no one then, Who is ! What each Gospel story is about.The four living creatures! Matthew Who was! Mark Who is! Luke Who is Coming! John The Lamb of YHVH! The four gospels are associated with the four living creatures: Matthew, the man, Mark the lion, Luke the ox, and John the eagle. John has Jesus dying on a different day. It's the Day of Preparation, not the Day of Preparation for Passover. It was the day they prepared the lambs for sacrifice. While at the same time, Jesus is prepared for sacrifice. Jesus is the Lamb of YHVH Yehovah Jehovah a man, a lion, an ox and an eagle. The man symbolises the prophet; the lion, kingship; the ox, priesthood, and the eagle, fatherhood.

[@kvjackal7980]

My mans is criminally underrated. Finding I watch him now more than any other creator. His wealth of biblical knowledge is invaluable and captivating.

[@lynnefox4892]

He wastes no words, and he is clear and straightforward. Educational, entertaining, and thought provoking.

[@kvjackal7980]

@lynnefox4892 Oxford comma gang! 💪😄 Also, well said.

[@nmappraiser9926]

Wait, they're saying there are records of the global flood in all cultures - which were wiped out by the flood? I'd be hard pressed to refute the story if there were Aztec and Chinese and Kenyan myths which all reported that they came from Ararat and that their grandpa's name was Noah. Otherwise how could anyone think this was convincing?

[@james13sylar]

I think the implication is that the survivors, Noah family's descendants, keep such record of the flood. This also doesn't make sense, as it would mean that they traveled to covered all the world, settled where other civilizations had existed, and continued their traditions, building techniques, using their languages, etc, and ignoring everything they should have know. Nevermind the genetic trail doesn't match.

[@_MADAMIMADAM_]

Exactly! It makes no sense if you devote even 1% brain power thinking about it. People are just plain gullible.

[@SicMundus7]

You just leave out "thinking" 😆

[@shanegooding4839]

Stories get passed from person to person over vast distances over long periods of time. As a result there are similar stories found amongst different peoples on opposite sides of the globe. When these stories are not also found in the Bible religious folks like this say that they're just made up stories, but when they are they say they're proof that the Bible is true.😂

[@minaguta4147]

The creator is appropriately wearing a Star Wars t-shirt as the global flood is just as real as Darth Vadar.

[@johnpaulcolthrust8207]

#1: But it’s worst than that! If the flood happened as described in the Bible there COULDN’T have been been cultural stories. Who would have been left to record them?

[@sorinankitt]

@johnpaulcolthrust8207 When parents teach morals and ethics to their children, they also share the stories of their ancestors and their own experiences. These stories are passed down through generations, influencing the descendants who hear them. Some descendants will write down what they learned from their parents, who are the children and grandchildren of the original storytellers. While the practices around these morals and ethics may evolve, the core narratives remain intact. Details of the stories might be altered or embellished over time to fit future cultures, but the fundamental concepts and contexts will endure. We see this is the cultures and stories of various ethnic indigenous and aboriginals around the world. We see this in the adoption of cultures and the stories related to those cultures when conquering people took over those indigenous and aboriginals. In every flood story there is a surviving storyteller. Noah of the Bible is that originally storyteller.

[@johnpaulcolthrust8207]

@@sorinankitt that’s a whole lot of text to not address what I was talking about at all; that was not it AT ALL! The apologist was referring to various but different accounts, specific to their locations of origin as being evidence for a global flood. I say “How could regional stories of a global flood have survived? You say “These stories descended down from Noah.” But they could not be provided by Noah and his descendants as Noah and family would not have been in these many places to witness these local goings-on, then to relate them down the generations. These accounts are however readily accounted for as local accounts of local floods and not local accounts of a global one, as in the latter case, there would have been no way for those accounts to have survived. That is what I was saying. Simple.

[@enriquegarcia2612]

The flood and many others may have happened, but to build an arc where all samples of terrestrial beings would fit that is more complicated.

[@evangelicalsnever-lie9792]

No evidence of the flood and the physics debunks the fairytale. But your point about building it etc is correct.

[@charlestownsend9280]

Especially out of wood, a wooden structure that big would have immediately fallen apart.

[@homophilosofikus8215]

I wonder why no human fossils have been found next to any dinosaur fossils if they died in the same flood

[@davidweihe6052]

Would YOU live next to a T. Rex (except the one that was mentioned by David Bowie in a song he gave to Matt The Hoople)?

[@homophilosofikus8215]

@@davidweihe6052 So you think fossils found in the same geological strata lived next to each other?

[@davidweihe6052]

@@homophilosofikus8215 No, but you seem to.

[@homophilosofikus8215]

@@davidweihe6052 Seems you missed the sarcasm of my first comment

[@xplicitgoofy1015]

@@davidweihe6052there is no consistency in geological strata all over the world that’s the difference

[@mainstreetsaint36]

Wait, if a flood that size, that killed everyone not on the ark, how did anyone write about it?

[@davidchess1985]

I love that aspect of their "all cultures have a story of the flood" argument. Oh really? A story where ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE DIES, with no survivors? 🤔

[@shanegooding4839]

The flood myth was a reimagining of an older creation myth in which a bird brings up the first land from the primeval ocean. In the flood myth this bird brings the first evidence of the land that is no longer submerged beneath the floodwaters.

[@mdug7224]

Super video. Creationist lies are so frustrating. I feel sad for anyone indoctrinated into the global flood nonsense. Particularly infuriating are charismatic creationist confidence tricksters.

[@joeylo73]

Get'em Dan. I love it when you shoot holes in faulty logic. It's just fun.

[@oceancoast92657]

Noah's flood probably happened.. It was likely a version of a story that was handed down from a real event.. The event was likely a case of where a famer lived in the region of what is now the Black Sea, but before the Bosporus broke. The Black sea at that time was much smaller. A cataclysmic event occurred where the natural dam of Bosporus broke and allowed the Mediterranean Sea to pour into what's now the Black Sea. Had you been living in the valley, you would experience water levels rising with out fully understanding why.. You might be too far from the Bosporus to see the break.. Thus your experience is the waters simply rising from everywhere.. especially if this event occurs simultaneously with a meteorically event like a rain storm that lasts longer than usual. You might associate the catastrophic flooding to be caused by the rain, when it in fact is simply the Med pouring into the valley. In ancient times, peoples "World" was that which they can see.. I.e. to the horizon. Since your a living in the context of stone aged man, you have no concept of a planet. if you were living in that valley, from your stone aged perspective, your entire world was flooded, even if your world wasn't the entire planet. Perhaps this farmer had some inspiration that he felt was from God, that told him to prepare for some cataclysmic flood, so he built a barge of sorts too save his family and livestock.. his neighbors all perished, and as his barge floated and came to rest on the shores of the black sea , know today as the mountains of Ararat in Armenia. The story of his survival gets passed down.. and embellished.. with religious meaning attached. It probably is passed on to be the genesis of traditions in the region.. like the Gilgamesh epic and the Jewish stories of Noah that our found in Genesis.

[@wingedlion17]

This is called rationalism. There is simply no need to come up with a plausible explanation of a story like this. How about it’s just made up. Maybe there were floods but none of the characters or the giant ark need to be explained, they are just part of a fiction.

[@abc_12333]

YES! The Nakh tribe experienced that particular flood. Ian Wilson's "Before the Flood" speaks about all that you wrote in full detail. After the Black Sea flood, the Nakh tribe began the vine industry near the Caucasus mountains - which confirms the statement in the Bible: "Noah planted a vine". Genesis 6:4 sons of God and daughters of men are the priestesses and kings of the Black Sea region that followed the Great Mother goddess instead of Yahweh. That civilization and religion in that region was destroyed by the Black Sea Flood.

[@johnburn8031]

Well, that was underwhelming. 🤦🏻‍♂️🙇🏻‍♂️ Young earth creationists arguments are ridiculous. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@chameleonx9253]

Because they're not arguments. They're just flimsy excuses meant to give the miniscule justification necessary for fanatics to believe their faith is rational. They don't have to be convincing, because they're aimed at people who are already convinced.

[@Loricstone]

Are there any plans to have bigger size data>dogma shirts? Like 4x or 5x? I’d love to get one

[@monteclark1115]

They always try to say that the flood was so violent that it carved canyons and buried fossils. But the problem with that theory is, if the flood was that violent, Noah’s ark would have been destroyed by crashing waves and floating debris. After the flood, all of the topsoil and plants would have been wiped away so the survivors from the ark would have starved.

[@AECRADIO1]

Noah would not have survived a week, the methane gas would kill everything.

[@rickiestubbs8779]

So many assumptions stated as facts.😂

[@unknownx7252]

My friend, god miraculously protected them and the ark, lol. You can't approach this logically.

[@MatthewMorris1997]

God protected Noah's Ark & plants had started growing by the time they left the ark, so Noah's Ark didn't get destroyed and there clearly was enough food. Basically you have to have the supernatural for it to be possible. "Proven" science has actually shown itself to be pretty fallible. Scientists have to have a load of faith to believe in many of their theories and facts that actually have huge holes in them.

[@MatthewMorris1997]

@@rickiestubbs8779 I say unless you can observe something as it happened you can't 100% prove / disprove anything. Everyone has to have faith in whatever they believe.

[@fepeerreview3150]

I can never get used to the idea that there are grown adults living today who still believe in the myths and legends of middle eastern goatherder tribes of 2500 years ago. For real?! I mean, we've flown to the Moon, for Christ's sake!!!

[@downenout8705]

You are wrong, so very wrong, there is compelling evidence that you are willfully ignoring that shows that they were in fact mainly herding sheep not goats.

[@SicMundus7]

@@downenout8705 😂

[@abc_12333]

What does flying to the moon have to do with belief systems???????

[@theresemalmberg955]

Worse yet, there are grown adults who still believe in these myths and legends but staunchly claim that the moon landing was faked! They are willing to believe that a man rose from the dead even though nobody actually witnessed the event and it was this man's followers, not the man himself, who said that this happened, but the moon landing, nuh uh.

[@GodlessGranny]

How can water not be in liquid form? If it's solid, it's ice. If it's gas, it's steam. What form is the underground water in?

[@BobbyHill26]

I assume they are referring to how many types of rocks actually bind to water, so it’s just in a molecular state, not in any specific phase because it exists as many individual water molecules within the rock. And there are many different ways that this functions, this is vastly oversimplified

[@jntaylor63]

"What we learn in elementary school". Nailed it. The Bible is NOT a science book nor a history book.

[@dethspud]

2 things. First if a global flood happened there wouldn't be anyone left to tell the tale globally. Second, early Judaism basically took the myth from Gilgamesh 11th tablet and gave it the Micheal Bay treatment.

[@zephlodwick1009]

In regards to the Ice Age: 1stly there's been more than one ice age. What we mostly call "the Ice Age" was just the Last Iceage". The biggest iceages were billions of years ago, when the whole surface of the Earth was frozen over. 2ndly, the water in the glaciers that covered much of the northern hemisphere during the Last Iceages and in iceages past came from the oceans, which is why, thousands of years ago, islands were connected to the land, which is how humans walked to Australia and America.

[@jacobkobald1753]

Let me get this straight most ancient civilizations were located near rivers and those same civilizations speak of great floods? Absolutely crazy

[@paint1956]

If the flood was meant to kill all who weren't on the ark how did these stories come about? And we know other cultures that existed during and after the time of the alleged flood.

[@fordprefect5304]

shhhhhhh an evangelical may hear you

[@davidholman48]

Well, let me add two points. First, this is assuming the Earth is flat which was largely the ancient view, and how would anyone know the waters covered the entire world. Secondly, the ark, given it's dimensions, could not possibly have been large enough to house two sets of every animal in the world. I could also add one final question as a bonus. How did Noah manage to get every animal in the world, male and female? Some say that God sent them to him, but is that specifically mentioned in the Bible? If I'm wrong, correct me.

[@originalhazelgreene]

I despise tiktok, but I am glad those trend-following tidepod-guzzling teeny boppers and twenty-somethings have at least one voice of reason: yours. Keep it up. Nicely done.

[@craigjomaia]

There were no "tide pod guzzling teeny boppers and twenty somethings". Calls to the poison hotlines at the time that story was going around showed NO increase in any poisoning by tide pods and in fact the only cases recorded were elderly people, probably suffering dementia. You would think listening to Dan would have you wired to use critical thinking and not just believe stories you hear, but perhaps not.

[@sigmaoctantis1892]

"Looking for a reason to be validated in their beliefs." That describes so much of what I see on KZbin, from flat earth, to young earth creationists and political extremists. Thank you Dan.

[@wilcowiersma9465]

If therebwas a global flood, then all the animals alive at that period of time should be turned into fossils and in a single layer. Creationists alway go on about fossils, like they are comon. However fossils are rare, because only a few animals turn into a fossil.

[@douglasgrant8315]

Thank you so much again when I listen to You I realized how much of a dull knife I was.. As a former Christian I would listen to people like this and just totally believe and soak in what they had to say as if they were experts but they are no smarter than I am... Thank you for your explanations of the scriptures and the scholarly content that you provide...

[@strappedfatman7858]

Ecclesiastes 12:12...my son, be warned: To the making of many books there is no end, and much devotion to them is wearisome to the flesh. 13 The conclusion of the matter, everything having been heard, is: Fear the true God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole obligation of man. 14 For the true God will judge every deed, including every hidden thing, as to whether it is good or bad.

[@douglasgrant8315]

@@strappedfatman7858 Fatman Did you know that much of the of the wisdom of Ecclesiasties was copied from Greek stoicism.. So you quoting a so called scripture that otherwise you had no idea that it was not uniquely inspired has no relevance..

[@strappedfatman7858]

@@douglasgrant8315 Do you believe the Greeks!

[@douglasgrant8315]

@@strappedfatman7858 Yes I believe the Greeks I also believe that they are human beings and not God nor agents of God.. Tell me fatman if the bible said that unicorns are real would you believe it just because the Bible says so?

[@strappedfatman7858]

@douglasgrant8315 Joseph - Imhotep - Thoth - Hermes! Hermes, the Greek god of interpretive communication, was combined with Thoth, the Egyptian god of wisdom. The Egyptian priest and polymath Imhotep had been deified long after his death and therefore assimilated to Thoth in the classical and Hellenistic periods. When the Greeks learned that the Egyptians had a god Thoth, or Tehuti, who specialized in wisdom and learning, they named him Hermes Trismegistus, or “thrice greatest Hermes.” Supposedly Hermes Trismegistus was the scribe of the gods who authored the sacred hermetic works that described the material world as well as the quest for spiritual perfection. Altar and Pillar Isaiah 19:19 Revelation 5:5 Imhotep - Joseph the same person who built the step pyramid. Acts 7:10... God gave him favor before Pharaoh, king of Egypt. God also gave Joseph unusual wisdom, so that Pharaoh appointed him ruler over all of Egypt and put him in charge of everything he owned. The Great Pyramid has 8 sides. The 8 sides represent the 8 kingdoms of the world. Jesus is the corner stone. The last kingdom to rule forever. There is actually ten sides counting top and bottom. First Empire was Nimrod. Who represents Babylon the Great, the Empire of false religion. The bottom of the pyramid is a side. All eight Kingdoms of Revelation ride with the harlot, Babylon the Great. Revelation 17:17 The Great Pyramid having no top corner stone, and the top being flat is the Harlot. Jesus is the cornerstone the builders rejected. The Nations would rather follow the Harlot than Jesus. Revelation 17:9 “This calls for a mind that has wisdom: The seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top. 10 And there are seven kings: Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet arrived; but when he does arrive, he must remain a short while. 11 And the wild beast that was but is not, it is also an eighth king, but it springs from the seven, and it goes off into destruction. Matthew 21:42 Jesus said to them: “Did you never read in the Scriptures, ‘The stone that the builders rejected, this has become the chief cornerstone. This has come from Jehovah, and it is marvelous in our eyes’? 43 This is why I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits. What does the Sphinx really represent. Because Jesus is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. Isaiah 19:19 In that day there will be an altar to Jehovah in the middle of the land of Egypt and a pillar to Jehovah at its boundary. 20 It will be for a sign and for a witness to Jehovah of armies in the land of Egypt; for they will cry out to Jehovah because of the oppressors, and he will send them a savior, a grand one, who will save them. Revelation 5:5 But one of the elders said to me: “Stop weeping. Look! The Lion of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, has conquered so as to open the scroll and its seven seals.”

[@rimmersbryggeri]

Dunes form when other fluids interact with sand aswell. Air for example.

[@solomonessix6909]

I appreciate your work Dan. Your the best🏆

[@brentwalker8596]

Thousands of years ago, one's world consisted of a relatively small area. A big, local flood would effectively be "the world" to the ancients. The many legends of floods were written about local floods that obviously happen in many regions of the planet.

[@mindfulchimp9946]

I need some of that merch Dan. How do I get a hoodie? thanks

[@tshenolootengmarope7021]

@author I want your take on unpublished books of the bible the apocrypha and the book of Enoch 😅please

[@timothymcdaniel5231]

Fantastic I hope that the rightwing members of our society watch your channel and learn something Thank You

[@jasonmoquin]

Thank you, Dan! You are a breath of fresh air!

[@iprobasco]

I just realized I watched about a dozen of your videos without subscribing... my bad, it's fixed now. Please keep doing the good work.

[@jordanmapfumo9359]

Besides, if Noah's flood is to be believed, you cant point to various cultures writing about it because in Noah's flood, nobody outside the ark survived, and according to the bible, they didnt even know the flood was coming, it took them by surprise so you cant even say they wrote about it ahead of time and left the writings to be discovered somewhere in the aftermath of the flood.

[@Zenocrat]

Your videos area always a great advertisement for why we need critical thinking today more than ever.

[@roberthunter6927]

A bit of naunce here, though your argument is essentially correct. There is a great deal of LIQUID water inside the Earth's Crust in many locations. The Great Artesian Basin in Australia [or rather UNDER Australia] has an area of 1,700,000 square kilometres, with varing depths and temperatures between 30 and 100 degrees centigrade. It is hot, and of course, under pressure, but it is in the LIQUID phase. Estimates of its volume are around 65 gigalitres. It is thought to be one of the biggest deposits of groundwater in the world. There is a similar groundwater basin system under Africa, especially under the Sahara desert. There are other signifant groundwater sources scattered around the world. Depending on whether you classify the Anatartica ice sheet as a type of crust, there is also singificant groundwater under the Anatactica ice sheet. None of this gives comfort to Global flood apologists, of course. Another issue is what people in antiquity understood as "global" Human mobility in anquity was generally not as widespread as it is today, and if people travelled at all, it was a slow process. Communications were a problem for large empires well into the 18th century. If an Australian colony was asking London for advice, or if London was issuing instructions to a colony, the communications could take months, or even the best part of a year. The fact that dissident Jewish scribes, later to become known as Christains, had gaps in their knowledge concerning a reasonable approximation of things like Pi, when Egypt and Babalon has far better values for PI hundreds of years previously, and various animals like Platypus and kangaroos, were totally unknown, even in Europe, suggests to me that those scribes had a different, and more limited idea of what "global" meant. So they might not have been deliberately lying or embellishing, they just didn't know how big the Earth was.

[@JewelCPeach]

Hi Dan. I’m new here. I love your videos. I’ve learned a lot! I’m an ex Mormon, and I am curious if you have ever debunked the absolute sheer insanity and lies of Mormonism, the Book of Mormon, and the teachings of Smith and Young, and if not, how/why are you still Mormon and not using your logic, reason, and educational/scholarly teachings to deconstruct the lies and false teachings of the LDS church? Thanks for all you do, and I hope I am just lost and haven’t seen your videos on debunking/deconstructing Mormon TikTok’s/claims.

[@lnsflare1]

You know what's great for preserving fossils? Rain coming down even half as fast as needed to flood the entire Earth above the mountaintops. That would totally preserve delicate fossils rather than instantly obliterating the entire surface of the planet and any wooden boxes on it, and rendering it a molten hellscape for at least the next million years instead.

[@letsomethingshine]

We don't have that many well preserved fossils though. Population estimates of dinos, etc, are based on large multiplication of the incomplete skeletons we do manage to find. It's a miracle when lucifer lets us find even one fully complete skeleton. lucifer loves the attention he gets from haters thanks to all bibliolatries, which iblis/lucifer has obviously inspired, anyone with a second thought can understand this bibliolatries have caused great evil, even when favorite interpretations/metaphors are chosen instead of the literal words.

[@lnsflare1]

@@letsomethingshine I mean, we have approximately the amount of fossils that are expected it they were formed by many natural processes across millions and billions of years, as opposed to the zero fossils that would be left if a global flood simultaneously atomized and vaporized everything on the surface of the Earth within seconds of its start. Not the least of which is because there would be no humans or animals who would have survived to have repopulated the Earth through an inevitably debilitating amount of incest to have eventually discovered the concept of fossils, much less fossil evidence.

[@mikearchibald744]

Well, we KNOW the world was flooded, in fact it was for HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of years. The idea the whole world was flooded within 'recorded human history' and some guy built a big boat and saved two of every animal is the part thats crazy.

[@jntaylor63]

Some answers I want from these evangelicals: How did bears, elk, cougars, armadillos, etc get to the Middle East to catch the Ark before the flood? How did the animals NOT die off from massive inbreeding?

[@flowingafterglow629]

"How did bears, elk, cougars, armadillos, etc get to the Middle East to catch the Ark before the flood?" The bigger question, to me, is how did sloths get to South America? If you watch creationist videos, they like to mock the hypothesis that monkeys got to the new world on a vegetation raft. But, surprisingly, they never actually give THEIR explanation for how they got there after the flood. We have New World Monkeys in South America. Somehow, those monkeys got to South America after the flood. What is the creationist explanation for how that happened? But now back to sloths. Sloth bodies are such that they cannot metabolize food at a fast rate. The reason sloths move so slowly is because they can not get enough energy to move any faster. At their fastest, they can only go at a speed of about 300 feet per day. It's not that they are lazy, their bodies cannot metabolize food fast enough to give them the energy to go any faster. So now, after the flood, the sloth needs to get back to South America. Why does the sloth need to go to South America? Don't even ask that, because there is no reason at all. But still, they are in South America so somehow they go there. How? Let's guess....a land bridge across the Bering Strait. Ok. Now, the sloth gets off the ark and goes full speed for South America (let's give them Central America to be generous) via the land bridge. How long does it take for them to get there? 1000 years. Yep, a sloth on a mission from Turkey to South America would take 1000 years to get there. At that point, the vegetation raft carrying monkeys for a couple of weeks/months doesn't seem so unreasonable.

[@abc_12333]

The Bible NEVER claimed a worldwide flood. Local animals. The word is "eretz" - the same word used in the Genesis 1 creation. This is simply just an undoing of the Day 6 setup of Genesis 1 - humans. Genesis 1 is TEMPLE liturgy.There was no intent to literally address the entire planet. The sons of God and daughters of men was a RELIGIOUS setup of priestesses and kings of the mother Goddess. Yahweh was putting an end to that system while the Nakh tribe survived and started the vine industry near the Caucasus mountains. The Black Sea Flood was enough to accomplish all this.

[@Canukhed]

​@@abc_12333 God told Noah that He would destroy the earth in Genesis 6:13 (NKJV): "And God said to Noah, 'The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth.'"

[@abc_12333]

@@Canukhed You're reading the ENGLISH. The ORIGINAL Hebrew is "eretz". Eretz in Ancient Near Eastern History includes the underworld. This has NOTHING to do with planet earth. Read Genesis 7 and 8/ It took 73 days for the waters to recede by 15 cubits. That leaves 147 days for ALL the waters to recede. That's an additional 30 cubits. Total - 45 cubits!!! This is just a 67 foot high flood. A LOCAL flood. You can do the math yourself. I day and night of rain is about 1.5 feet high. Multiply that by 40. NOT a worldwide flood.

[@xplicitgoofy1015]

@@CanukhedHumans in those days were widely concentrated around the middle eastern area and Northern Africa

[@michaelpatterson5330]

And we don't know what people mean when they say 'world'. We assume it means 'global' in our sense. We'd be wrong. We interpret an idea to mean 'world' in our terms without imagining what it means in the original language. World can mean a very local domain. There is, so far as I know, no evidence that the 'Noah' flood is global in our sense. The description allows us to imagine it was. But it is not hard to imagine the volume of water caused by 40 days and 40 nights of rain by scientific means and come up with even an extreme approximation of impact. Interesting than pro flood advocates have never availed themselves of rational argument that can support their claims.

[@anitareasontobelieve378]

Gutsick Gibbon has a video about this issue called the Heat Problem.

[@RichardRenes]

You'd expect a sudden addition of about 8,8 km of water to leave some kind of mark all over the world like the impact of the Chixulub crater did. 8,8 km of water is a lot of pressure on soil... a lot... And even if it were for 40 days only, it would leave a distinctive mark world wide... and none has been found at the appropriate stratum in geology.

[@Prom591]

Great deconstruction!

[@JacarandaMusic]

The fairy tale about boats and animal husbandry written by people with no idea about either, contradicted by literally everything.

[@jannetteberends8730]

The fossils also come from a period that there were no humans yet. So nobody around to notice a flood.

[@theganymedehypothesis4057]

Dwarf stars are watery environments. A dwarf star flare event would release giant quantities of water.

[@charlestownsend9280]

Um... how did you come to this conclusion?

[@KedarOthort]

Huh

[@MultiBritt08]

One thing I love abour your videos is you utilize the creator whom you're debunking for the dramatic effects. Basically all you do is sit there and state facts but the dramatic music, images, editing are all there to attract people in. Kind if funny. 😆 Thanks Dan!

[@txikitofandango]

They teach the water cycle in elementary school, but if your school is a glorified babysitting club, you probably aren't learning anything

[@travis1240]

yeah this guy seems to intentionally misunderstand both the bible and all the scientific progress that has been made in the last 3000 years in order to make this myth (and I'm pretty sure it was understood to be a myth when it was written down) to be "true".

[@TechySeven]

Mostly agreed, although I'm inclined to disagree with your point in parentheses. I would argue that the Author, and/or the Culture & Society of the Author, in all most-probable likelihood, did Not understand it to be a myth. Many people of Other cultures & societies, like perhaps the Greeks, would have understood that, but the ancient Hebrews or the even-more-ancient Babylonians & Sumerians? Nah. In fact, the entire Cosmological 'Model' of the Israelites (as pointed out by Dan in this video) was based on misunderstandings, ignorance, and incredulity toward Natural Forces; explained the "Heavens & Earth" as effectively a Literal Snowglobe under an Enormous Ocean. And they almost undoubtedly saw the entire world as being Much Much MUCH Smaller than it actually is, especially in light of their lack of fast long-distance travel. And hence the idea that a Large, but Absolutely Local, Flood constituted "Global Divine Punishment".

[@abc_12333]

Myths can be true. You have the wrong definition of myths. It comes from Greek and derives from the word "thoughts". Equating myth with being false is a modern setup.

[@qw-tr6fm]

I am so eager to believe the bible. However there are few things that I am not convinced. Big bang, evolution, the flood, if we looked at it scientifically. Good video though.

[@Salamander_falls]

I am a big proponent for encouraging people to nurture their personal faith. Find the truth for your life in the teachings. You don’t need to believe in a literal interpretation of the bible to be a Christian. The issue i see most often is when people take it literally and use that to attack or work against other people. But if you’re using “love thy neighbor as thy self” to make your life better without hurting others, that’s awesome for you!

[@chev39rsh]

When I started questioning my Christian upbringing I was declared a non believer which I took as a compliment. As i delved into the contradictions and gymnastics required to remain in belief and NOT in knowledge, I abandoned faith for reason. Your channel is clear and concise and a breath of fresh air.

[@jameschapman6559]

Now you can honestly say, I once was lost but now I'm found!

[@kimbronun6649]

Im Christian and I dont believe the flood is what they make it.

[@therongjr]

Once upon a time, I wanted to go through my Bible and write out all the questions I had, so that I could ask educated leaders in religious traditions. I got as far as Genesis 1:4 with two handwritten pages of questions before I gave up. Now that I have an OK knowledge of ancient Mesopotamian and Canaanite cosmology, I find most of the answers to my questions.

[@detroitpolak9904]

Genesis 7:11 And thus saith The Lord “the slurpee machine broke! Turn it off! Water’s getting everywhere!” Amen.🙏

[@McCoymiked]

The ice age “explanation” is so painful.

[@charlo90952]

I think the Biblical flood story is derived from the Matsya Purana, which has a quite similar story. There is evidence Mesopotamia was settled by people from the vicinity of the Indus valley. This flood story could be an elaboration of floods of the Indus.

[@Nick-o-time]

The epic of gilgamesh is right there tho. There could certainly be some cross cultural stories since we do know the two areas traded.

[@nerfzombie6242]

Check out Gutsick Gibbon's video on the problem with heat regarding the supposed global flood.

[@timothywilliams8530]

Ahh I see another enthusiast of the heat problem

[@perrydoerr8668]

If Noah’s flood happened. How did anyone else know about it except Noah and his family. What am I missing??. There should have been no one else around to recount it. 🤔

[@rizdekd3912]

The answer would be that since ALL the peoples around the world descended from Noah, they would have all taken with them the story but the details of when and how it happened would have changed as it got told and retold.

[@perrydoerr8668]

@@rizdekd3912 so what do you think about Population Genetics and DNA evidence of human migration across the planet. If accurate that would throw a wrench in the story don’t you think. Just wondering

[@rizdekd3912]

@@perrydoerr8668 Of for sure this Bible based worldwide flood never happened. I was only playing the devil's advocate for the puzzle you posed.

[@gdevelek]

I'm 100% convinced that Noah's flood is a myth, but your debunking of the 1st point was very very weak, you said nothing of substance. You didn't show different times for the local floods, for example.

[@arjjtibbs]

You look like David Platt. Great content. thanks.

[@atanu4ever]

Have you heard about Hinduism flood story? It was a global flood. Should you not do a global research instead of local research?

[@roytee3127]

Any evidence of an outburst at the beginning of the Flood would have been wiped out in the ensuing 10 months (yes, the water was above the mountains that long Gen 8:5)

[@carriemunro9665]

The guy in the video said Camas Prairie flood ripples were located in Idaho. He was incorrect about that too. They're in Montana.

[@flowingafterglow629]

Regarding the fossils at the top of the Himalayas: We know that the Himalayas are still growing at a rate of something like 1 cm per year, in 50 million years, that's 30 miles. Mount Everest is only 5.7 miles tall. At a growth rate of 1 mm per year, the time it would take to go from the ocean floor (2 miles below see level) to the top of Mount Everest (let's call it 8 miles total) is 13 million years. The dinosaur mass extinction was 66 million years ago. That means the dinosaurs had 50 million years to fossilize before transitioning into the top of the Himalayas.

[@sabin1166]

If there was a global flood, how did the Chinese not notice?

[@shift-happens]

What an excellent video! Unfortunately it is in the wrong aspect ratio....

[@utubepunk]

Reason # 6: Water exists all over the world. Checkmate, haters!

[@bonniemarshall3498]

I believe the Dune Worms are responsible for the great flood. 😅😂😊😂😅

[@urdrwho1]

Sadly apologists are so ignorant it makes me hide my faith.

[@adammcinnes5615]

It took me about 25 years to find my way out of creationism. Growing up, I wanted to be a scientist, and ny first exposure to evolution was from a geologist who was a creationist and who was giving a presentation at my church. Most of my exposure to science from that point on typically had a creationist slant, and even when I questioned things, I was reassured. I was also provided with books that discussed creationism from a scientific (or perhaps more accurately, pseudoscientific) perspective. I had friends who talked about challenging their professors about evolution. With that as my background, I always challenged people that I would be willing to accept evolution if people could prove that it was true. So you can imagine my surprise when, after being taught in my introductory university biology class how DNA works and then explained that this is what evolution actually was, I suddenly realized that evolution was real. It was a pretty quick shift from there to atheistic agnosticism for me.

[@Catholic-Perennialist]

Imagine earning a PhD in biblical languages, just to spend your days debunking the children's book version of Bible stories. I once spoke to an old man that said while he was drilling wells in the mid-west, the rig pulled up fossilized shark teeth. It is not a lie to say that all the ground we presently stand on was once under water. It is far better to ask how much of a myth may be based on reality rather than engage in mid-wit iconoclasm.

[@erichetherington9314]

Why is there a question mark after the caption?

[@GoodieWhiteHat]

Sounds like there’s a bit of Hancock in the mix - the cataclysmic flood event explains his “ hyperdiffusion” hypothesis.

[@jevinday]

How could they know that a worldwide flood happened if they didn't even know how big the earth was?

[@roytee3127]

Am I missing something? Wouldn't YECs claim that all those ancient civilizations that described their floods, must have descended from the only survors of the Biblical Flood - i. e. Noah's sons? Wouldn't all those flood descriptions include Noah and the Ark? According to Genesis, it's not like t he ancient Sumerians had a culture prior to their flood legend

[@RobertSmith-gx3mi]

If you believe the great flood that's fine. I'm more interested in hearing you explain how one family of non boatmakers not only repopulated the planet with humans but also made sure the 2 of every kind of animals were doing their part and procreating to avoid extinction. You're the one that believes it, so explain to me how it all happened?

[@ianb9028]

Recently I have found an Australian geologist (youtube Ozgeographics) who has been tracking a massive tsunami thorugh the Indian Ocean. He believes this is related to an asteroid strike (called the Burckle Crater) in the southern Indian Ocean. The date he places for this event is about 5,000 years ago. He believes (and the evidence seems to be consistent) that the tsunami left a landform called seismic chevrons throughout the entire coastlines of countries with a coast exposed to the event. This would the include the low lying areas of the middle east. He calculates the tsunami that struck the Australian coast at 120 metres. One of the implications he draws is that the asteroid that struck caused seawater to be advected into the sky and between this falling back to earth and the tsunami provides an explanation for a cultural memory of the Sumerians creating the Epic of Gilgamesh which was adopted as the Noachian flood of biblical tradition. If this youtuber is correct it explains the cultural memory. It also confirms there was no worldwide flood. There are no data to support the flood of Noah and that story is clearly wrong.

[@ricf9592]

Initial tsunamis due to the asyeroid/comet impact. Then the rain from the billions of tons of water vaporised and sent into the upper atmosphere.

[@MatthewMorris1997]

No data to support many of the scientific theories. Scientists have to have faith in their interpretations too

[@ianb9028]

@@MatthewMorris1997 not really. A scientist will first have some observation (in this case deep ocean sediments deposited on the coast of Western Australia). The scientist will develop a hypothesis that may explain these initial data. The hypothesis will be able to be tested and can be further examined. (In this case the sediments are suggestive of being deposited by tsunami - given the shape and contours etc.) If the data do not support the hypothesis then the hypothesis must be either changed or discarded. Further data are collected - in this case by looking for tsunami deposits on Indian Ocean coastlines in places like Africa and the middle east. Dating of the deposits can be undertaken and the time of the event identified. The pattern of deposits can give an approximate area where the event initiated. Putting all these factors together including locating a crater on the floor of the Indian Ocean which is where an asteroid struck in the timeline generally given by cultural memories and records. Is all this correct? We do not know but it is an interesting area for further exploration and if it is wrong then so be it. A theory can be supported, adjusted, or abandoned as the data will show. Religion, on the other hand starts with a conclusion, collects no data, and undertakes no investigations. The flood of Noah as written in the bible did not happen those data are clear and unequivocal.

[@MatthewMorris1997]

@@ianb9028 I disagree with that because some scientists do exactly the same thing, they already rule out what they don't want to believe, what doesn't fit with what they want to believe. True science looks at the evidence openly and doesn't rule anything out off the bat. Personally I've seen enough to believe that the Flood did happen because there are many pieces of evidence that science can't explain. Personally I disagree with uniformitarianism & most of sciences so called proven "facts" regarding the ancient world. "Science" acts like it's impartial but most of the time it is anything but. It's already decided that it's hypothesis, assumptions, theories, are true and omits everything that disagrees with it. There are honest scientists out there who look at the evidence just as it is, but many have to follow the agenda, tow the line, or they won't receive funding. There is no scientific consensus because the scientists that disagree are censored and ignored. I'd suggest you watch some of AiG's talks on the Flood and evidence for it, they point out some very interesting pieces of evidence that science can't explain / refuses to even discuss. Anyway if all people lived near the coast in ancient times, and that destructive tsunami happened fast enough that they couldn't escape, that could lead to all these Flood stories. Personally I believe happened and that there are scientists who have proven that it happened. I presume neither of us is going to budge on our views. Just remember that scientists aren't as impartial, unbiased as they claim to be, I've read many books on the subject & science actually doesn't support itself, in many areas it's a faith in the unseen just like religion is.

[@strappedfatman7858]

When was the Himalayans Created! The Garden of Eden would have been in Pangea. All continents and mankind would have all existed as a single continent called Pangea. In early geologic time, a supercontinent that incorporated all the landmasses on Earth. Pangea was surrounded by a global ocean. So at what point would there have been a flood to shape Italy the Roman Empire the 6th Kingdom of the World. Adam wasn't deceived. The ground did produce thorns and thistles because Jesus worn the crown of thorns and thistles. God told Adam the prophecy of the resurrection. Genesis 3:15 The Sacrifice of Jesus was the first part of the prophecy of Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head, and you will bruise him in the heel.” Satan the Dragon and the Wild Beast the 6th Kingdom executed Jesus on their image the cross. It was the Roman Empire of Italy that is also the shape of the heel. So the first part of the prophecy is complete . Satan bruised Jesus in the heel.

[@benderisgreat5059]

Anyone defending the flood has to grasp at nonexistent straws so tightly. It’s genuinely pathetic what people can convince themselves of.

[@nyralotep]

While the surface of the earth has a lot of water cover, there just isn't enough water to cover the earth to cover mountains and last a year.

[@letsomethingshine]

It lasted various periods of time, if you read the TNK/OT in full for all the different versions/numbers of days. I heard one rabbi say there are 4 different flood gospels in the TNK. Christians did not want to notice this because it becomes even more clear that BOTH their pagan and Christian parents and ancestors all the way back were always liars onto themselves.

[@basilkearsley2657]

The ice age was 100000 years ago, whereas Noah’s flood is 6000 year ago

[@fordprefect5304]

No Flood was not 6000 years ago. it is made up fiction.

[@davidweihe6052]

The Younger Dryas event, which pretty much ended the Global Ice Maximum and started the Interglacial Period that we haved lived in, occurred about 13,000 years ago, not one hundred thousand years ago.

[@TheScotsalan]

I bet the theist is a flat earther too 😂.

[@j.dieason7527]

Dan where do you get your information from? From other humans that wrote down the experiences they had in the past correct? So what makes them credible? In other words you pick up books written by humans to come to your conclusions, but who’s to say the very ppl are telling the truth from their writings?

[@TrisjensChronicles1203]

I wish people like this would just stop. Why do people insist on making fictional Bible stories to mean as literally happening in real life? Can we move on and grow up from the superstitions? Geshh Just because something is written in a book doesn’t mean it’s true. Why do people insists it be true and pushing it on others? I don’t get it. Thanks Dr. Dan for clarifying, keeping people intellectually honest.

[@epicofgilgamesh9964]

I agree. Why people insist on choosing unoriginal Hebrew fiction over reality is beyond me.

[@ccnationnews5965]

the bible is the infallible word of god and he is never wrong. those that believe will see evidence and those that don't will see nothing.

[@abc_12333]

The archaeological evidence is there. There is no fiction. It's up to the reader to get the proper INTERPRETATION of the ancient Hebrew texts.

[@RustyWalker]

Which island or country was it that heard about the flood story from missionaries and adapted it to their own traditions? It's within a century or two so this retelling of ancient myths isn't a relic of the distant past. Different cultures having different flood stories is also not sufficient to establish a global flood happened because a few of them are just that - stories. I was picturing a shark swimming round in my trifle when I realised he said, "desert."

[@JonathanFisher1337]

I guarantee there was this dude that was just trying to be liked. Everyone is remembering when their loved ones were killed in a flood, and this dude goes, "yeah, that was bad" His buddies remember saying, "Wait, you weren't here for that" Dude thinks of the first thing to solve his little lie problem, "oh, well, the food was actually everywhere." "Mass worldwide flood?" His friends asked. "I don't think so. That sounds impossible, and wouldn't you have drowned?" "No, it's true! Umm... God did it. That's how it was possible, but he saved me and my family. We built a big boat that I can't build any more or show off my boat-building skills because the plans were from" pointing up "the man upstairs." He later went into Noah's, his father's, journal and wrote his story between the lines as proof. "Oh," he adds, "don't ask my father about it. He was drunk - in fact - everyone got a little out of hand. We don't like to talk about it."

[@alanmckinnon6791]

Our knowledge of early human civilizations keeps getting pushed further and further back. Until recently it was 6000-ish years ago in Mesopotania, and then someone discovered Göbekli Tepe which is dated to circa 9000 BCE and then all the other Tepes in the general same area some of which are dated to 12000 BCE. All this upends the mainstream history which now needs updating. The point of this is that this new date is ever closer to the Younger Dryas when the glaciers from the last Ice Age melted, and it was sudden (few decades) and those glaciers melting would have been almost a global flood - North America, Europe, Siberia. It's not much of a stretch that humans rebuilding from that could turn the story into 40 days from 40 years and add a holy man to the story to give it a cause. The literal Noah story could not have happened. He built his boat with help from a few, had to find a forest, fell the trees, dry them, cut them into planks as well as built the structure of the boat. Practically alone and in a short period of time. There is a Creationist group somewhere in the States trying to build an accurately sized ark and they are using modern materials (like go to the lumber store and buy a container full of lumber) and methods (power tools, screws, cranes) and in the amount of time Noah had to build his primitively this crowd is still nowhere near completion. Makes one think the Israelites had zero experience of what it takes to build a real boat

[@shaunaburton7136]

Who could record it? Everybody but the people on the boat died?

[@davidweihe6052]

And they had children, who could ask their grannys and grandpas. Thus, in my family, there are stories about Big Bill, my paternal great-grandfather who was a steel union official who then commuted to Ellis Island from Pittsburgh (weekly, not daily) until he died in his 50s.

[@Whosoever446]

I personally think the younger dryas impact theory (forgive spelling) of smaller localized flooding and ice sheets moving in multiple areas around the same area of time.

[@davidweihe6052]

What is to forgive? You blew the proper capitalization, but Dryas is spelled correctly. And the sea level going up hundreds of feet is hardly “smaller localized flooding”.