Malaysian Flight MH370, Mysteries & Journalism ft. Jeff Wise | Know Time #89

[@KnowTime]

Which theory is the most plausible according to you? 1) The Accident Theory 2) The Pilot Theory 3) The Spoof Theory (Russian Hijacking) 4) Diego Garcia (US Involvement) 5) Something Else

[@Rohan-vn6hy]

IGARI theory

[@KnowTime]

@@Rohan-vn6hy what's the theory?

[@hookinateacup]

3. I don't believe it was hard to break and enter into Zaharie's home and add or change a flight in the simulator. The US produced a report to say that 777s are hackable. The avionics bay is easily accessible, the hatch is just a flap in the floor, from which the lock to the flight deck and communications could be depowered. Russia and Ukraine are the only countries that have not provided a background check for those three passengers. The plane was deliberately flown not only on country borders but on the borders of Flight Information Regions, and the VORs are non-existent or not switched on overnight. The North route ends in a Russian playground, no need to involve the local military, and the Space network (Russian observatories) would have seen the plane (think anti-missile). The debris should have washed ashore in Australia, Antarctica as well as to the West, something fishy about that even without the Lepas Anatifera paradox. So after doing my own research, not just accepting whatever the media and Jeff says, I believe the plane landed in either Kazakhstan or Kyrgyzstan and Zaharie is innocent.

[@KnowTime]

@@hookinateacup great summary of the spoof theory!

[@Rohan-vn6hy]

@@KnowTime Not gonna say it for free ;)

[@angel_one1259]

The biggest problem and should be changed immediately is why the pilot have the power to turn off transponder, it should be a worldwide regulation that commercial airliner should have their transponder hardwired to the aircraft without a switch, as long as the plane is running transponder is always on.

[@justindot4887]

this is explained in many other doc youtube comments like green dot aviations video as primarrily with other reasoons in case of fire you must be able to turn off all systems regardless of function.

[@billtracy8774]

Exactly. more tamper resistance is needed...but this and other tamper-resistance fixes is controversial political point. US aviation community has historically been highly adversarial about such changes. At this point EU needs to take lead as they have done on other matters such as 25-hr voice recorder which USA has still not implemented. That would help prevent MH370s too. To me the bigger point, this is why Malaysia is not the only group moving slowly on admitting MH370 was deliberate cockpit action, to the end most likely.

[@stephenmapeka7774]

Many people are still stuck in this issue of switched-off transponders,when these systems are fitted in aircrafts they look at their benefits vs risks/disadvantages,in this case re-designing them by making them impossible for pilots to switch them off would be too much of a risk than leaving them to continue to function as we know how,besides there isnt a concrete reason they were switched off deliberately by a pilot in suicide mode.Its perplexing to hear people thinking an experienced pilot would not know switching off transponders wasnt gonna disable military radar,that by deleting flight simulator activity it would mean it couldn't be retrieved when he could have destroyed hard drive by burning/torching it etc.

[@wirebrushproductions1001]

"Statistics" and Occam's Razor are two entire different things.His reasoning is hopelessly muddled. Among other things, there is no "need" to settle on an explanation. Admitting that the question cannot be answered GIVEN THE EVIDENCE AVAILABLE is often the best thing to do.

[@ahmetosas8562]

Thank you for all these podcasts, really enjoy them! Love the varied/different people from all walks of life you bring on!

[@KnowTime]

Thank you - really appreciate it!

[@lorenzodanieli9480]

My theory is the following: an unidentified armed man was able to somehow infiltrate into the plane, everyone was held hostage and the hijacker took everyone’s phones, when the plane reached flight level 3-5-0 the captain asked the copilot to bring him some coffee, so when the copilot exited the cockpit the hijacker helds him hostage too and asks him about the code to access the cockpit, once inside the cockpit the hijacker hold the captain hostage until the plane exits the Malaysian airspace, then the hijacker ordered the captain to switch off the transponder and then kills him, during the time that the plane was flying in malacca’s strait someone (probably the copilot) managed to enter the cockpit and regain control of the plane, then he tried to land at Christmas Island but the plane run out of fuel

[@derekreinhardt7818]

Good theory but what if the copilot did this ? Also is it true that the copilot phone was turned on at some point? Also maybe it was a planned move by both pilots no one has looked at it this way .

[@Bob31415]

The problem with Jeff Wise's theory is it requires someone with the requisite technical knowledge who is also willing to sacrifice his life for Putin.

[@KnowTime]

I'm sure there's at leeeeeeeeast one person in this world that might meet these requirements!

[@Bob31415]

@@KnowTime Very unlikely. Putin is not Islamic.

[@dmmchugh3714]

Just tell us when you find the plane.

[@KnowTime]

the first thing on my list is to notify you 😀

[@gracetaylor6244]

The Netflix doc only covered 3 theories: 1) pilot 2) hijack 3) shot down by USA. Netflix never explored the accident theory. I wish they had because it can't be excluded without a full investigation. I don't know if the triple 777 had the capability to ghost fly the way it did, IF it did. It's a very sophisticated plane so perhaps it could have flown without pilots to wherever it ended up. Boeing wouldn't want that known because it increases their liability. I don't think there's enough evidence to conclude murder/suicide. Hijack is completely ridiculous; no evidence whatsoever. I don't believe President Barack Obama would have given the shoot down order. It's not in his psychological makeup. I would like to see the accident theory explored.

[@KnowTime]

Even though the accident theory has very little weight, for some reason even I can't completely convince myself out of it!

[@Timbo7772]

Grace, the accident theory does fit surprisingly well. Please look at my explanation I wrote a month ago. I do have 777 knowledge, and it could fly a ghost flight with no one at the controls. This is a complicated scenario and it would take Boeing to test this scenario, something they will not do publicly. Rgds.

[@itsnotmyjob]

No mention of the two videos with the plane disappearing?

[@Bob31415]

19:53 - This is a "major major major clue" yet I couldn't understand a word the interviewer said so I have no idea what the clue is.

[@KnowTime]

The satcom system was booted up again (presumably manually, by someone on the plane) after the flight crossed Penang, even though it had been switched off earlier. 😶‍🌫

[@Bob31415]

@@KnowTime Thank you.

[@Timbo7772]

@@Bob31415, No, not necessarily switched off. But perhaps power to the SATCOM failed and then at 18:25z there was an automatic power reshuffle that brought power back to the SATCOM. Could the battery going flat that initiated this reshuffle.

[@Bob31415]

@@Timbo7772 Yes. Could be.

[@whitenoiselevel3]

I wish we could get the data from malaysia air base fly over

[@Mike-w9t]

3. The plane was hijacked but in a 21st century fashion. The hostages may be in a Russian gulag, but alive. So there is still hope for the passengers and crew of MH370...

[@justindot4887]

without any information leak or demands.. impossinle

[@hhazelhoff1363]

I think they were both tripping on LsD. WOW very confused people

[@KnowTime]

🥲

[@hhazelhoff1363]

@@KnowTime probably smoking some crack also

[@rohan1731]

always interesting topic mh370, but the host speaks really fast and not clear

[@ashhamilton3989]

what of the barnacles and plane parts found?

[@KnowTime]

1:46:11

[@Bob31415]

33:49 - The morning of March 9th? MH370 disappeared on March 8th.

[@russelldeitch5765]

Whose time zone?

[@Bob31415]

@@russelldeitch5765 Good point

[@henrykmin]

So the pilot theory is only 1/10 plausible but the Russians highjacking the plane to Kazakhstan is a 10/10 to Jeff? 💀

[@krob2327]

He’s cia it’s his job

[@soufianefariss]

The spoof theory sounds like a far fetched conspiracy theory to me, it sounded more like a story without many facts. would love Jeff to speak more about it

[@russelldeitch5765]

59:25 Tony Abbott, not Tony Blair. He was UK prime minister some years earlier.

[@rohan1731]

titanic was not found for 73 years... people should have patience, even though we are well into 21st century

[@lorenzodanieli9480]

Finding Mh370 it’s not a matter of patience

[@monikamonika7422]

low iq comment

[@williamgreen1512]

I think flight 8501 a few months earlier has something to offer , as do all aircraft disasters .

[@carolriecker235]

😊

[@krob2327]

Russia are nuts but I think this guy is nuttier

[@Nebuch]

I come across many explanations that this incident is related to some kind of electromagnetic technology. There is a narrative that a technology whose working principle is based on phase conjugation is used in an emergency. Among the facts about the incident that this theory family focuses on, there is evidence that a company that some of the passengers worked for may have worked on this type of technology.

[@KnowTime]

Interesting - can you share a link with more information?

[@Nebuch]

@@KnowTime It's about US Involvement theory but with a trick. Ashton Forbes' channel is a deep dive for this theory.

[@Jeff_Wise]

Ashton Forbes is a fraud and this is straight up misinformation.

[@maggotdog]

MH370x, look into Ashton Forbes's work, the plane was put through a wormhole

[@Jeff_Wise]

@@maggotdog I looked into it, turns out that wormholes only exist in science fiction

[@thrrobb]

Jeff Theory ie Spoof Theory or Something Else

[@Timbo7772]

An accident scenario does fit… the rupture of the O2 bottles in the left side of the avionics bay could cause the loss of transponder/satcom/comms and the autopilot. The subsequent hypoxic ghost flight is then autopilot off and with no one at the controls. This fits with ALL the known data we have without the need for unfounded speculation. 9/10 for the accident scenario!

[@KnowTime]

As much as I would like to believe the accident theory, a lot of the evidence points the other way (the controlled manoeuvring, no contact, no attempts to land, and the fact that the plane was not found anywhere near the ghost flight path)

[@Timbo7772]

⁠@@KnowTimeduring the first turn back the pilots were still conscious and controlling the aircraft. After that the aircraft seems to be just meandering. The pilots then probably lost consciousness after a few minutes due to a decompression. The lack of any comms, easily explained by the damage to the left side of the avionics bay…. This scenario fits with the known evidence we have, without all the unnecessary speculation. Also remember it was the O2 system that was serviced just prior to this departure. After that first turn back there is no evidence of any further pilot input. It has been a big misconception that the aircraft flew on airways or turned in a normally controlled way. The only primary radar evidence released to date shows a meandering track until just past Penang….I maintain that this scenario fits, please carry on and find faults with it and I’ll try and answer.

[@Bob31415]

@@Timbo7772 Primary radar shows the plane turning right (northwest) up the Straight of Malacca then left to the Indian Ocean. Also, there are the hourly satellite handshakes resulting in the seven circles of points equidistant from the satellite. Not to mention the debris that washed up on Reunion Island in 2015 that was positively identified as having come from MH370 is consistent with what is known about currents in that part of the Indian Ocean. There is little mystery left in this story.

[@Timbo7772]

@@Bob31415, yes, primary radar shows the aircraft making a lazy turn NW just past Penang. So this turn could be made with no one at the controls and the aircraft is just meandering. After that there are no more Primary returns that have been released so we don’t know how the turns were performed. I agree of course, that the aircraft continued into the Southern Indian Ocean until it ran out of fuel.

[@Bob31415]

@@Timbo7772 But that would be an amazing coincidence that it made that turn before reaching Indonesia and just happened to go straight up the Mallaca Straight and then just happened to make a left turn for the Indian Ocean, all without anyone at the controls. Just not believable. Someone was flying the plane.

[@KarlErickson]

Jeff is brilliant

[@KnowTime]

Agreed!

[@Shelovethagoat]

3 uap orbs made it disappear duhh

[@KnowTime]

case closed!

[@gavinpage2769]

Wow Journalism is in a sad sad state. I suggest you look into the research done by Ashton Forbes. Sorry Jeff but I will not be rushing out to buy your book.

[@warmthofthesun-e7z]

Agreed 👍💯

[@shannonkimber710]

yeah, this version of investigation seams typical and small minded. This disappearance is unique, an outlier event which requires broader thinking and looking at all possibilities & theories, crazy or not. If MH370 is found at the bottom of the ocean, Ashton should be embarrassed, however, until it's found every possibility is on the table and no one should be profiting with their theories. This will forever remain a great mystery..

[@merlynalexander]

Pilot theory.

[@hussainiubali892]

Pilot theory, he (Zaharie Ahmad Shaa) wanted to make the plane disappear and never to be seen again.

[@TheGodHabit]

ohhhhhhh Jeff... Trump did it? Really. Pity the fool.

[@thaddeustucholski]

The guest seems to speak less than the host of the show. Boring.

[@toomeyeh1]

Host was goofy but its cool that he let this guy talk. Havent watched all of it but the guys intro story is actually relatable💀🤝💀 Like he said, if you've experienced that moment of grasping your fleeting, and possibly ending life... There is nothing like it. And it's genuinely not something to seek out. I think the people most attracted to "chasing" it, are people that have lived their lives so far removed from it 🤢 Just let your guests talk more freely - less explicitly directed questions 😂... Especially with prefaces that require 3 minutes of monologuing to get through 😭do that and im sure youll soar youve got a sub 🫂