Male albatrosses pair for life | Frozen Planet II | BBC Earth

[@shlingusdingus4174]

It breaks my heart that their numbers are declining, but it's somewhat bittersweet to know that the males will pair up even with fewer females. A life alone is a tragic one for an animal who lives for so long and in the end, love is love.

[@Hedriks]

Exactly. I think it's better to have a friend than none... for 50yrs or so ahead. When breeding goats, you just need one male and he can pregnate 50 females in the week. But for the albatross, it's ok to have more males. So long as she has one for herself, she'll have a partner for life, and that's all she needs to help keep that species going.

[@JoseRodriguez-gj7vx]

“ no survival advantage but is preferable to a life alone “ Cue emotional devastation

[@lnteIIigence]

Aww, they don't want to be alone ❤️

[@marshawargo7238]

Such a Sad Sweet Love Story ‼️😥💖Maybe they'll find a girl, who won't mind being shared?🙄Might become a thing. Two guys to help care for & feed the family!👪 👩‍👦💝

[@PChan-yt4uf]

@@marshawargo7238 That is the way of life for some remote tribes which still practise a very labor intensive way of life. 2 or 3 fathers (usually brothers) and one mother. And they have good division of labor according to their skills and they all live together. Everyone takes care of all the children. Very harmonious.

[@MariaReyes-wg5zx]

😭 so cute.

[@gurushajuneja1946]

So sad to know this species too might die out due to human greed. Let's get together to help innocent animals like these!

[@Toomuchbullshitt]

And what we’re gonna do about it tho

[@hokyun4469]

No seriously, what are we going to do?

[@holaiamdevil]

@@hokyun4469 overthrow our governments and put an end to capitalism

[@helloworld-zx3zy]

Oh, we can do a lot of things about this. It’s just a matter of having trust in oneself. We can stop eating fish on a mass scale. We can force the governments to ban fishing there. Or we can study the area and try to find alternative places for those fisheries to continue their activity in harmony with albatross. Or at the least, we can spread awareness about this issue like that BBC is doing to take this matter to someone who has the will and can actually do something!!

[@oliverm7138]

@@Toomuchbullshitt I mean we could sterilize LIC countries as they have the largest growing populations.

[@JWMcLay]

A huge part of the problem (which has been known about for at least 20 years) is the kind of fishing long lines used by Commercial fishing trawlers, that catch many seabirds by accident.... the industry has not done enough to change things all these years later. They need to be held to account by consumers. If we don't speak up and take action then albatross and many more sea birds will literally go extinct, all because of human greed and neglect!

[@PChan-yt4uf]

The worse cause of albatrosses dying is actually plastics. The birds eat all those plastics floating around, feed them to the young chicks, which then die of starvation when the plastics accumulate in their guts and cannot be passed out. And it is also conceivable that the chemicals from the plastics are also altering their sex hormones, just the same as they are altering the human's. The modern man and woman are already half as fertile as their grandparents were.

[@MariaReyes-wg5zx]

Human cilvilization runs so selfishly.

[@MagicBaldMushroom]

Making a swooping generalisation and saying "humans are greedy" is just dickish. A few of them are, but a few does not make a majority, let alone an entirety

[@pokemonduck]

they only thing they will listen to is $$$ so vote with your wallet

[@pokemonduck]

@@MagicBaldMushroom feeling attacked? With the enormous amount of suffering we inflict upon each other and all living things each year all in the name of money, I think it is fair to say that we are greedy. People turning a blind eye because it is convenient for them are just as guilty.

[@sharksrcool]

That's why I love sir David Attenborough's voice

[@Platschu]

His narrating voice should be also saved for future projects similar to James Earl Jones ("Darth Vader").

[@TheEnigmaticDeenTruth]

Because you're *gay ?*

[@majoroldladyakamom6948]

@@Platschu Uhhh... it is via Sir David Attenborough videos, lol. 🤣

[@DannyCEE13]

This guy is a legend

[@Platschu]

@@majoroldladyakamom6948 I mean they could re-create and use his voice digitally with his permission after his death in the future.

[@abenezerfantu6086]

Its spirtual to hear his voice...it a blessing

[@teethompson1630]

Thank you

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@teethompson1630 - What? It's not your voice. lol

[@JCPatrick]

This made me cry.

[@littlefox8352]

Thank you... I got half way and read your comment. I can't cry today, no sir, not today.

[@donnasanders6724]

That's really sad to hear all the females are literally dying and the males are joining together over loneliness all because of humans

[@savvycraftings]

Agreed

[@phillipdale6765]

Exactly. Humans are doing this.. very destructive to these magnificent creatures

[@Pacman_131]

Why don't they capture a female and male albatross who are compatible and have them breed? These are beautiful birds and it would be a shame if they go extinct

[@gurushajuneja1946]

@@Pacman_131 I think, it's better to let them breed naturally these birds would loose their beauty if human intervention is provided. Rather, it would be a better solution to try and remove humans from their feeding grounds, or help females who are caught in nets.

[@skwish6401]

Doubt that all humans are responsible. Western humans are more destructive. Lol

[@bananonymoussupreme3345]

I do wanna note that there is an evolutionary advantage. Same sex mating pairs will often raise orphaned offspring.

[@penny1928]

Nope this is very rare to the point where there is no evolutionary advantage. First it assumes that pairs will automatically take care of young one who are not theirs there is no evidence for the success rate of this and there are probably some stories but come very rarely. 2ndly it also assumes that Orphaned offspring will survive Long enough to be adopted which is very rare in nature if these birds lived in a community I would agree with you but they seem to pair up and try to keep their distance.

[@pokemonduck]

@@penny1928 lol your bias is showing. There absolutely is an evolutionary advantage, because otherwise it would not be present in hundreds of wildly-varying species after 4.1 billion years of evolution. Same sex bird pairs often steal eggs from a hetero couple or one of them will mate with a female in order to acquire eggs. Then they are more successful than the hetero couples because of greater combined territory and food. This happens in many species, like swans. Not all animals live in a community and is irrelevant.

[@fiarill2]

Check out the book Biological Exuberance by Bruce Bagemihl, it goes into a lot of detail about same-sex pair bonds, which are extremely common across several different species of birds. The behaviors he describes include birds temporarily mating outside of monogamous same-sex pairs to be able to lay fertilized eggs that they then hatch and raise with their same-sex partner. So birds often still choose same-sex mates even when there isn't this kind of sex-ratio issue. Based on what the author says, the advantage varies based on sex - male pairs in in some species are able to control more territory/resources than hetero pairs, due to larger size and agression. But female pairs lay twice as many eggs and often can't incubate and care for them all.

[@kimbrey65]

14 years sure is a long time to wait to find a mate!

[@womanofsubstance8735]

Humans don't mate until they're twenty-something, and most don't stay together for the next 50 years.

[@carolineyuen3247]

I’m halfway the fuck there!

[@stopworrying8850]

They live really long!!!

[@MariaReyes-wg5zx]

And are endangered. That's sad 😢

[@purehyper124]

Males are tolerating each other to not be alone. But then these males never have a family which is heart breaking, we need to protect the females so there can be more albatross family's.

[@mintyvin7038]

keeping family values in the bird species. birds nowadays have really lost their connection to god. they need to go to church more! on sundays theyre out doing things like relaxing at home and shitting on a rock. and not praising jesus!

[@realcoastalzoomer592]

Cool it with the homophobic/ antisemitic remarks

[@kieran6417]

@@realcoastalzoomer592 cool homophobic/antisemitic remarks

[@watermoof4914]

@@TimWrightt what the hell is a gay agenda..it's like asking what is a hetero agenda. animals don't know the term gay and if we were the same (where there wasn't a term for loving the same sex) then it wouldn't be a problem either.

[@LyRiCss718]

@@mintyvin7038 what are you talking about 🤣

[@gailhowes9398]

I have never seen these famous giant birds up close before! They are really beautiful 🥰 plus I never knew how long they live or the fact it takes a long time before they are ready to mate, thank you for showing this video! Can nothing be done to stop them being caught in the nets or a better feeding place for the females?😢

[@noneofyourbuisness1679]

Unfortunately, it isn't something one person can do alone. To solve the fishing line/net problem, an alternative method would have to be developed that is just as, if not more profitable than the original and there would have to be a strong incentive for the fishing industry to adopt them. Customer demand is one thing, but in the end, all the big companies care about is the big ol' dollar sign; start to tax them so that they are literally paying for every animal they kill and they're more likely to adopt the alternative methods. Another issue is plastic waste. Not only will the albatrosses accidentally ingest them when fishing, but any fish they eat that themselves contain plastic will begin to accumulate in their digestive tract until it kills them. Obviously, the mess needs to be cleaned up and there are already several organizations dedicated to doing that, but the real way to solve the problem is not just to remove the big plastic we see, but to find a way to remove the microplastics - bits of plastic that have broken off larger pieces due to ocean corrosion - in the environment, but stop them at their source. Plastic, in a nutshell, is just basically for the environment as a whole. Alternatives exist, such as biodegradable or highly reusable products, but until there is an incentive to use them instead of plastic (again, all the companies care about is money), no one will go for it. The third issue is overfishing. Simply put, we're taking too many fish from the wild stocks and not leaving enough to keep the population stable, not to mention feeding all the species that depend on them for food. Comparatively, aquaculture is still in its infancy, especially when it comes to marine species that are often used to or require lots of space or specific nutritional requirements that just aren't readily available, if at all; for context, tuna ranching still requires the capture of wild fish to raise in captivity, since the secret to getting them to breed and then maintaining them in captivity hasn't been cracked yet. Restrictions can be placed (with strict reinforcement and incentives to obey beyond facing criminal charges), but the best you can do is simply not buy wild-caught seafood. Do your research, tell others you know, and do what you can to put the squeeze on the fishing industry; if there isn't a market for it (such as hagfish; with the exception of Asia, no one really finds these literal slime bags appetizing), they're more likely to take less fish, if any at all.

[@AnthonyMonaghan]

Hi Gail. It's not nets that they get caught in. It is long line trawler fishing that is the problem. As the fish are pulled onto the boats the Albatross instinctively catch the fish and then the large hooks get caught in the birds gullet. There are measure in place to deter the albatross from following the boats but not all boats adhere to the rules. Forest and Bird in New Zealand have been instrumental in the installing of cameras onto legally registered fishing boats. It is now an offence not to have such a camera and Albatross deterrents on registered fishing trawlers, but illegal fishing is a huge industry. Support Greenpeace and other organisations like Forest and Bird in order to get legislation enacted around these issues. One of the biggest killers of young Albatross is plastics in the ocean. The mothers mistake plastic bags for squid and feed them to the chicks. Humans are the problem and we have to be the solution. We have an excellent Albatross sanctuary and breeding programme here in Dunedin in the south of the South Island of New Zealand. Me and my children went to see the nesting chicks at the beginning of May. They are incredible birds. Seeing the parent birds coming to feed the chicks is quite something. Thanks, from New Zealand.

[@VenusEvan_1885]

No one wants to be alone, everybody wants to have someone to get old with.

[@KAHHHH8548]

Yes, true.... 😢😢😢

[@soheilak6208]

I just love his voice ....

[@crayonzii]

Beautiful magnificent birds ❤

[@jj-vu5ov]

what a beautiful island. must be nice to live there assuming there are no predators which is why they can live there for decades

[@teicheselchloropusasinus]

I love this bird, they are my favorite animals. And I happen to be Bi too

[@aliciaxo9728]

Why do they have to drown them 😫 I’m always so despaired in front of human selfishness... as Bear Grylls says: we love our planet and when you love something you take care of it 💗

[@dancingclo]

ISOTOCIN Bonds in birds are like our oxytocin bonds, it serves them in may ways to pair up. Keeps them healthy and happy in a myriad of ways.

[@somitariq4209]

How beautifully captured amazing work 👍❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍☺️☺️

[@SarahMBodji1]

I love the narrators of BBC Earth voice.

[@groowanderer]

0:15 wait, they gotta be 14 YEARS old to be mature enough to select a mate? That's insane, even though they live to be 42 years old

[@Sly-Moose]

Bruh, they're BIRDS XD

[@groowanderer]

@@Sly-Moose I think maybe you need to grow up kiddo

[@Sly-Moose]

@@groowanderer What part of that was childish? XD Plus, I'm 28. What, I can't use caps or something? Get over yourself. XD

[@groowanderer]

@@Sly-Moose I thought you were using some kinda innuendo about people or some shit. Other than that I don't get your first reply at all. Obviously they're birds.

[@Boo-pv4hn]

That’s so sad but so beautiful another example of why we need to stop over fishing and work with nature not against it

[@The_JGatz]

The music is just breathtaking ❤

[@idaparakila]

What's with the comments on this video... literally just two birds

[@TimWrightt]

No, the script is not 'just two birds'. It's subtle propaganda.

[@tazgunnar9216]

@@TimWrightt Good thing that the other birds don't watch the BBC.

[@thomasneal9291]

@@TimWrightt stop panicking, child.

[@TimWrightt]

@@thomasneal9291 Stop projecting your insecurities onto other people, or innocent Albatross.

[@brocktoon8]

Not everyone is a sociopath like you.

[@alsanimaldocumentary]

Why are there only these two males? Where are the others?

[@adelyn8943]

Its worth nothing that same sex couples are very common anyways in Albatross! In both males and females. They’re essentially bisexual. So these same sex couples would happen anyways,its just the males are pairing with each other because its better than spending a life alone as they’re monogamous and very affectionate to their partners

[@heisamushroom]

I was looking for this comment thank you!!! There are a wide variety of species of animals who engage in same sex intercourse or mate for life and although its increasing due to the tragic loss of females in albatross populations, that preference for same sex partners is shared by females and males, which means it happens regardless of the decline in female albatross.

[@grapeguy69]

@@heisamushroomwhy does this matter?

[@leannezezeski-sass2773]

I see this with ducks a lot too, there’s two male ducks that live together in my neighbors yard 🦆 🦆 I never see them apart

[@lieberte]

they aren't bisexual, they just want a friend

[@janchilton]

There's another episode where 2 females bond and raise an egg, too.

[@princemorris9952]

Sad.... but incredible to watch.

[@indyreno2933]

Tubenoses (order Procellariiformes) are an order of waterbirds that is widespread, there are four extant families within two superfamilies, the two superfamilies are Hydrobatoidea (Storm Petrels) and Procellarioidea (Petrels, Shearwaters, Fulmars, Prions, and Albatrosses), despite a few similarities, all these birds are not closely related to gulls and skuas, which are shorebirds within the Laroidea superfamily, shorebirds (order Charadriiformes) are a more diverse order than tubenoses.

[@sooyonkang]

2:01 ❤️

[@MariaReyes-wg5zx]

Even the animal kingdom is civilized enough to know that love is love. Too cute 😢. Aww 💕

[@social.media.command]

Thank you for the video.

[@nathancomixproductions466]

Reminds me of a line from _Ice Age_ (2002) that goes like: "There goes our last female.".

[@Dr_JSH]

2:01 SO CUTE!!!

[@dannysullivan12345]

The music in this episode slaps hard when the Penguins versus leopard seal 🦭 song 🎧 started omg 😆

[@АннаЮрьевна-ъ7ч]

Какая прелесть!)

[@phillipdale6765]

Yes

[@MsTatu3]

Wow didnt know they live so long...50 years!!

[@Moonbow826]

Some live up to 70.

[@hokyun4469]

I’m watching this on TV and right when this scene concluded I got the notification about this video.

[@TojiFushigoroWasTaken]

One gal rejected him so bro rejected her whole gender 😂

[@FURY_.]

Bro 🤣🤣☠️

[@finn9396]

Chad

[@amr0017]

No homo

[@sansajune8004]

Hahahaha

[@some_dude_maybe]

incel xd

[@RubyCarrots3232]

Another Albatross colony in Hawaii had lost most of its males and has a 40% lesbian ratio, however, the numbers have stabilized. But lesbianism continues as they can still lay an egg from a third party. Unfortunately, these albatrosses haven't cracked the code like them or the male Black Swans who have perfected the strategy. Homosexuality is widespread among birds and mammals,(including primates).

[@revertedakhi]

Particularly humans hahaha

[@RubyCarrots3232]

@@revertedakhi And our closest relatives Bonobos, but I also saw some Snow Monkey females going at it in Japan.

[@TimWrightt]

@@RubyCarrots3232 There is literally no evidence to support evolution either. You saying "YUH HUH" is only proof you're brainwashed without any actual science to back your beliefs.

[@johnjones3332]

These male birds aren’t mating with each other, you’re projecting human deviance on animals. If anything these males are practicing before finding a real female mate. Propaganda.

[@chloeuntrau4588]

nothing to do with homosexuality but fighting loneliness and probably surviving

[@shredpaper4837]

Perhaps they just afraid to grow old without companion. But anyways this is heart-whelming story. 🤍

[@Menacing-Mercy]

Bro ain't never trusted a woman with his heart again 😭

[@user-go2xi7zq5q]

Lmao haha🤣🤣

[@L.Fenton]

Bros before hoes. 😁

[@grapeguy69]

The species is literally dying.

[@kuitaranheatmorus9932]

Albatross are the most beautiful and cute,it's so sad to see that many pf the female had to more north

[@krmunnaazeem1099]

Watch him n listen to him live... Coz, he's going to disappear one or the other day n the next generations will cry for him...

[@chickadeestevenson5440]

Yeah... it hurts to think about

[@ajuzz07]

Mind blowing

[@Jeyekomon]

That is so incredibly sad!

[@kingoftheoutergodsazathoth381]

My man said "you know what I'm lonely anyway"

[@wild7life]

Nice wildlife 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@sidensvans67]

Fabulous birds .

[@tonyyero7231]

Common among many animals. Just not mentioned due to the Taboo behind it.

[@antonenero]

So cute 💕🥰💕

[@sweetdrahthaar7951]

Preferable to a life alone and way less headaches if the truth were known. 😂

[@CJCroen1393]

Bicons 💖💜💙

[@mariadaluzmoutinho5701]

Que encanto e ternura!! Mais vale acompanhado que sozínho ... e que relação monogamica duradoura impressionante!! O elegante e dominador dos ares Albatroz está em perigo ...O que não está em perigo de extinção?!!

[@shamatauqeer5813]

So sad to hear we human r destroying the place we r living on

[@IceFox606]

So wholesome 😭❤️

[@Moralityoverconsistency]

It’s sad to know they’re going extinct. I’m happy they don’t have to die alone but it’s still sad

[@UpscIas-yh9zk]

Save earth 🌎 save climate, save love for albatross

[@CodeGrayHere]

That's sweet.

[@kaylarae1362]

Anyone know the title of the music used?

[@connormarkus8451]

“The chemicals in the water are turning the Albatrosses gay” -Frozen Planet ft. Alex Jones

[@ColoringKaria]

When will Americans be able to buy the series digitally?

[@adelyn8943]

I think its for purchase on youtube itself? But maybe that’s just over here in Europe

[@freshandzesty1111]

Cute birbs

[@katokaoula4872]

It's so amazing the nature 😍

[@9263STYV]

It is so sad to hear those beautiful birds are going to extinct because of human being. Maybe a centry later, people can only see them in the document or in the museum.

[@mahbubmo]

Amazing what creatures do for love.

[@shabad0009]

Its not love. Its companionship and fear of abandonment. If there were more females, they wouldn't look twice at a bird of the same sex. The same thing happens with males in prison.

[@valenwood6299]

@@shabad0009 yep

[@adar1873]

@@shabad0009 I cannot believe you homophobes can’t even let birds be. Homosexuality is a common occurrence among all animals and especially among Albatrosses. If this they purely mate because of fear of abandonment, then why are there so many „lesbian“ Albatrosses? With such a large variety of males there should not be any homosexual female Albatrosses according to your logic but there are. So yes, it is love. Other arctic birds such as penguins will also pair with the same sex even though there are just as many males as females. It is the audacity for me with which you just project your own backward mindset onto this topic. At this point it’s just annoying and ridiculous how people like you try so hard to deny homosexuality as a part of nature even when there is literally visual evidence. Also according to your logic: If you are so sure about these birds not having any feelings towards partners of the same sex, then how are you so sure that they have those feelings for the opposite sex? If they pair with the other sex purely to satisfy their social needs, then wouldn’t they also only pair with the other sex solely for the purpose of producing offspring. That doesn’t sound very romantic to me. But yet you are so sure that in this case they definitely feel „love“.

[@md244-w6v]

agreed, a lot of people don’t realise that there’ll still be same sex couplings even if there wasn’t a sex disparity. social creatures will still bond and share lives regardless of whether they’ll produce any offspring. at the end of the day we are all animals, these behaviours & traits that we all have today are around for some reason, not all are driven by the need to make more babies. homosexuality wouldn’t be a thing in so many species and for so long if there wasn’t good in it.

[@MariaReyes-wg5zx]

I mean even humans are animals, born in the same world share Genes from the evolutionary tree. ECT why do some humans have an unrealistic culture and beliefs.???

[@liseouellet9705]

How wonderful .

[@srilekhasivaj3322]

i love it BBC😍

[@dannysullivan12345]

Bbc put up the killer whale 🐋 part from this episode it blew my mind

[@jürgensenke]

Sehr schön 🤠👍

[@obibraxton2232]

Love this 🏳️‍🌈 It’s sad that humans are causing species decline but I think its beautiful they have each other 💜

[@ShadesofViolet8]

The disgusting flag has nothing to do with this video

[@Cami-u7x]

@@ShadesofViolet8 for real. It’s not like they are mating, they are just keeping each other company.

[@ShadesofViolet8]

@@Cami-u7x Exactly.

[@mysocksarewet]

The American flag is disgusting

[@WadeAlma]

@@ShadesofViolet8 You're right but there is nothing wrong with the flag. I get people try to claim animals are gay too. Even though most animals are too dumb to understand anything besides reproduction.

[@abdulkareem9985]

Nice voice of presenter I always like BBC,keep it up

[@kittykennedyks]

Sir. David Attenborough

[@abdulkareem9985]

Thanks for the response

[@mr.s.9559]

The Albatross couple lived happily ever after in California.

[@zerjiozerjio]

yay! they’re welcome here for the rest of their happy long lives!

[@ea2033]

Alot of people are confused, these birds don't want to be alone... Their not often interested in "mates", witch is a big reason they're going extinct at a rapid rate...they just want to be accompanied by a companion... Regardless the sex

[@GTI8855]

Human is the most dangerous invasive species ever.

[@dipa7906]

Masya Alloh,,cantik nyaaa🤩🤩 Video nya bagus jernih hebatttt

[@man2th]

same gurl, same!

[@farooqsiddique413]

soooo cute💗

[@hillbillybeerdranker6678]

I knew it was a mistake ta play the birds Elton John music.

[@julianaerti]

Good

[@dropbezerra]

i love you ❤

[@fadzilhamid736]

Poor the male Albatross, he not manage to get the female Albatross 😢.

[@sagha919]

wow, i was not expecting that

[@RAJRAJ-su4in]

supper ❣️❣️❣️

[@XiaoLynn]

I ship it

[@bilalkurdish.berlin5237]

Nice

[@GambinoTheGoat]

featherflix and quack with the homies

[@MyInfotainmentFix]

sad ending.

[@TheEnigmaticDeenTruth]

*I'm an Albatross*

[@ashbobash179]

We stan

[@Honey-khan-digital-shorts]

Albatross reminded me turkish darma where the girl was crazy about albatross

[@Riyadh59]

Wow 👌

[@Bombass_Donber]

they are bros for life

[@EspeonMistress00]

Ah yes does the mating dance. But they are definitely roommates. Nothing romantic

[@Potato_Sama]

And they were roommates

[@himimedak656]

@@TimWrightt lmaaooo sure Dan keep believing that

[@quantumblur_3145]

@@TimWrightt "irrational animals" lmao and humans aren't, we're soooo special and other animals don't know what thinking is

[@crayonzii]

@@TimWrightt stop projecting your homophobia on animals. they’re gay and good for them 🥰

[@jimroodenburg1817]

What the actual fridges?

[@noahtriumph1560]

It's nature and natural 🌈❤

[@lieberte]

yeah if 3/4 of your females go extinct :(

[@juant3969]

This is very common in the animal kingdom. It’s common with Penguins, monkeys, male lions and many others. This is why I don’t understand why gay people are shamed and many other derogatory names. When it exist in the animal kingdom as well.

[@shabad0009]

Stop trying to inject your politics into everything. There is a lack of females so the men are left with no option - like in prison.

[@aristoddle7947]

@@shabad0009 What politics

[@shabad0009]

@@aristoddle7947 'I don’t understand why gay people are shamed and many other derogatory names. When it exist in the animal kingdom as well.' Animals eat feces too.

[@L.Fenton]

@@shabad0009 Clearly you don't understand animals. Gay isn't a political matter. 100s of species demonstrate homosexuality but only 1 demonstrates homophobia. Pretty clear which is more unnatural.

[@shabad0009]

@@L.Fenton Its enforced homosexuality due to lack of breeding partners. The animals are trying to *mate* instinctually. It is unnatural because the animals will never succeed in their objective, which is to pass on their genes.

[@dylanbuchman8128]

Poor albatrosses 🥺🥺🥺🥺 but companionship 🥹🥹🥹🥹

[@ElysetheEevee]

Damn, now all the ignorant people are going to start saying gay relationships and orientation are fake and a coping mechanism for loneliness.

[@TimWrightt]

Irrational animals do irrational things. They aren't gay, there is no such thing as gay animals, that's an unscientific myth. There is no science to back evolution.

[@ElysetheEevee]

A. I'm not going to even dignify your response with any kind of proper argument. I'm not going to look up links for things I've already studied just to satisfy you, especially when I didn't make any definitive claims to begin with. B. I'm not making the claim that it's either. I'm simply pointing how how ignorant people on one side could misconstrue a part of this video. I'm going to add, to be "ignorant" isn't necessarily an insult either, such as most people want to whine about these days. It simply means to be unaware of certain information. Unfortunately in today's world, way too many ignorant people love to be the most vocal on things they know nothing about, which is the most detrimental to other open-minded ignorant people who would otherwise try to learn the truth of the matter. C. Just as a gay relationship could be that in some peoples' minds, so too can straight relationships, or any other kind of relationship. A relationship is a relationship. I'd like to think a pansexual such as myself would understand that more than a lot of people like you. It really doesn't matter what color, sexuality, class, etc. You can't rightly say one form of relationship holds more value in this specific area than others. Get your panties untwisted and join the rest of adult society. Edit: This comment was aimed specifically Lochlannach, but for whatever reason KZbin didn't attach the tag for reply.

[@TimWrightt]

@@ElysetheEevee Uh nope, biological processes are built for one kind of relationship to preserve the species. Yes, you can. The form that your body is built for, you know, with hormones and sex organs? Science backs God, not evolution. So you're wrong on all fronts.

[@thomasneal9291]

@@lochlannach7 "who is really ignorant?" you. very clearly you.

[@thomasneal9291]

@@TimWrightt " biological processes are built for one kind of relationship to preserve the species" that is so far from how evolution actually works it's scary. stop parading your ignorance like it's a badge of honor maybe?