Management realizing that Veronika's online presence could be hurting the company|

Management realizing that Veronika's online presence could be hurting the company. They are now planning on summoning her to have a conversation on the same.
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[@tinyshamrocks2172]

Truth is, they would just find reasons to fire you … they wouldn’t ’talk to you about your social media presence’ 🙄

[@moreforme74]

You sound young and naive.

[@ii2bcnii]

@@moreforme74 being right is young and naive? Funny

[@moreforme74]

@ii2bcnii Being wrong and thinking you're right is what makes you naive.

[@ii2bcnii]

@@moreforme74 Oh the irony

[@RKNGL]

@@ii2bcniiSounds more like someone not living in the same modern corporate hellscape as the rest of us.

[@vishabrown6556]

You know what's funny is they'll tell you don't bring your personal life to your workplace but then they all up in your business on social media.😂

[@izl1104]

That’s why you keep your social media private too. Motherfuckers too up in your business.

[@Rick_Sanchez_C137_]

SUPERVISOR: “we’re not trying to turn this into any big thing…” (…we were just hoping to intimidate you into taking down your posts.”

[@Superduper666]

Funny how places are always short-staffed yet they can pay someone to dig through an employee's social media accounts.

[@MyTwoCents2]

Bullies don't like it when you stand up for yourself. Subscribed

[@Kein4463]

Thanks for joining @Kein4463 team 🎉🥂❤️

[@Oldmanfnaf]

Please note this is not the original account. They are on TikTok as Victoria.

[@oaklanddba]

Any time a co-worker uses "just", presume they are shifting liability to you, being sneaky or an outright liar shifting work to you. Same goes for any sentence that ends with, ",..right?"

[@Jivvi]

I used to work with a guy who would always start a sentence with "Hey could you just quickly…", followed by something that's going to take a really, really long time to do.

[@YoYo-gt5iq]

When Scott Adams worked in corporate America, they tried to discourage him from writing Dilbert.

[@jaykay5580]

and then he turned dilbert into a rascist platform and got cancelled. what a dumbass.

[@OhBoy-zy5bc]

It’s a private company… they can’t infringe your right to speech.

[@jdotoz]

That's true, because that right legally only restricts the government.

[@OhBoy-zy5bc]

@@jdotoz bingo

[@TanyaLairdCivil]

First amendment claims wouldn't apply. However, labor law might. Workers do have a right to discuss workplace issues, discuss their salaries with coworkers, and lobby for union membership. Retaliating against someone for educating others on their labor rights could very well get the company in serious legal trouble.

[@mypointofview1111]

Even a government agency has no right to tell you what to do in your own time. They employ you for your skills and the designated hours you work, they do not own you

[@jdotoz]

@@mypointofview1111 Maybe you haven't been paying attention over the past ten years where people have been fired for outrageous posts on social media.

[@grimface]

OMG, you have the perfect passive-aggressive management words and behaviors going on in these videos, LOL. It's freaking great.

[@user-zi5oq7oq1u]

Love you Veronica, keep fighting the good fight.

[@phanson9735]

:throw HR under the bus" Gold.

[@Futures_Past]

Veronica is a legend

[@brucetalley3798]

Ideally, Veronika would not have identified herself, her company, or her fellow employees in the skits or on the social media platform she's using. Therefore, neither the supervisor nor HR would be able to see the skits online and link them back to her. Maintaining anonymity is the key in this type of situation.

[@retiredsnowbunnyhunterx5106]

Why do I feel like this really is taking place SMH HR non sense.

[@dianacano780]

because it is.. unfortunately

[@LumyTheQueen]

I would just like to share that as soon as this video ended I got the Temu add and their song starts playing immediately with "Feels like a dream, feels like maaaagic!"

[@OhNotThat]

1:08 I can answer that question, they call the legal dept.

[@mypointofview1111]

Oh no, far too easy. Just the person who brings the subject up. If they genuinely have something to say they'll talk to the lawyer if not they'll stop trying to intimidate you

[@heatherwoodley8244]

A teacher in the UK got fired recently because of his social media presence... his video of him leading a student to thinking critically and not being a sheep was not liked by the school. Critical thinking is not on the syllabus, it's actually banned. The teacher is a gem and someone every kid deserves and every society needs. That right there = the problem. 😊

[@littleteme78]

Veronica, stay with the professional smoke, and I am here for it.

[@patriciav6710]

❤

[@theyellowshoe]

Many years ago when I worked at a Kmart, during the days of Myspace (way before Facebook) I got pulled into managers office. They said they were told I had a Myspace, they demanded I give them access! I said no, they I can be fired! I'm like ok start taking off the Kmart vest, my name tag, they backed up with the quickness!

[@mikemerc74]

we love Veronica

[@homatenindilula2550]

Veronica is always right

[@user-dg5zf4it8c]

I LUV Veronika's videos. I have family & friends watching them!

[@Kein4463]

You're the best!

[@kagasaki6]

You should be manager!😂

[@ellensunden2778]

Awesome!!! Love your videos!!! I'll be sharing them with my co workers!

[@jenniferd.820]

Sheeples are easier to control 🤷🏾‍♀️😂

[@JamirV.D.Nicholson]

If HR wanted to talk to Veronica how come it hasn't happened? 😂😂

[@DanaStar-le2rm]

Id just love to comment on how awesome and authentic the voiceover work in these videos. Just perfect

[@teraxiel]

So for anyone watching, ignore any advice you think is implied in this video. The 1st Amendment generally does not apply to the workplace, unless that workplace is part of the government, and even in that instance there are BROAD allowances for the government. And yes, there are absolutely circumstances where what you do outside of work can be grounds for disciplinary action.

[@shankaranarayanans5510]

This. 100%.

[@andrecomanigault]

I was just coming to the comments to write this.. 1st amendment doesn't typically apply to private companies.. That's more about the government..

[@teraxiel]

@@andrecomanigault Unfortunately I'm just realizing I'm pretty sure this is not the content creators channel and this was just stolen and reuploaded, so it's not like she'll see this.

[@irmazamora4679]

That is a nice manipulation tactic, but freedom of speech is protected even against our goverment. Problem is people are intimitadate to challenge it. Personally i have sent my constitutional rights along with any violations and if necessary case wont just go through county, but i love to challenge it to supreme court. And i have it where judges and attorneys know i am not bluffing.

[@briar9395]

@@irmazamora4679The point is that freedom of speech *only* applies to government action. An employer can absolutely penalize you or fire you for your social media activity, right or wrong.

[@tinyshamrocks2172]

In a right to work state, they’d just take you to the office and ‘let you go’ they dont need a reason

[@irmazamora4679]

Not if you can prove their intent. Wrongful termination is allowed in right to work..try again

[@tinyshamrocks2172]

@@irmazamora4679 good luck proving it in a right to work state, because they aren’t going to walk up and say stupid stuff to you. Try again

[@fakshen1973]

They don't have to give you a reason. It's just not working out and they want a different employer.

[@Rick_Sanchez_C137_]

1-I’ve worked for government and civilian in right to work states. The reality is, before they fire you a supervisor usually says something that shows they will be violating the laws and your rights before HR gets around to firing you; as long as you can show that it was possible they fired you because you didn’t capitulate to their illegal request/order than DOL will still side with the employee….. yes, even in a right to work (or as we like to call it, “right to fire,” state). Reality is, the narcissistic nature of bosses who do illegal shit lead them to believe they can do whatever they want and then fire you if you don’t play ball every time… 2-even in right to work states, many jobs are for companies that have a corporate headquarters in a different state/country and the corporate policies have them keep track of certain things, including why each employee is terminated. That becomes hilarious when stupid bosses fill out the paperwork showing their illegal reason for firing you thinking that it doesn’t matter because like you said, it’s a right to work state. Then the corporate HR sides with DOL & employee and remove supervisor from high paid position (or fire altogether) to avoid the big lawsuit. I personally witnessed where a group of supervisors in a multinational conglomerate violated the Americans with Disabilities Act and fired someone in a right to work state; when all was said and done, all supervisors but one were fired and the one went from being in charge of a manufacturing plant earning over $200k/yr to being in charge of a small refrigerated warehouse in a different state making less than $40k/yr…. so he could retire a few years later under a Union retirement program….. the fired employee was basically given the difference in pay for a year from that supervisor (he settled for their first offer because he had a lot of debt from being out of work for so long before the company (Tropicana Orange Juice) was forced to settle with him, due to multiple phone and online complaints, by one of their sister companies (Pepsi Co).

[@deborahbaker1092]

Lol. This is funny. There is no blanket right to free speech regarding employment. An employer can easily decide that your social media presence creates a conflict for the employer. It doesn't even need to be a right to work state. Unless your position is subject to collective bargaining, tenure, or some other presumptive labor agreement or employment contract, in the US you can be fired for any reason that is not illegal or does not violate local, state or the federal constitution. For every wrongful termination case won in administrative or civil proceedings there are tens more that have lost, even in pretty progressive states.

[@sarahsennett9386]

I love your videos!!! Keep people informed!!

[@Kein4463]

Always!

[@noname235]

Imagine people actually talking to their employees like this XD

[@Timetravelghost]

Honestly I just discovered your channel and even though I don't live in the US, your points are absolutely based

[@NighDarke]

Yeah the problem is free speech does not mean this and a business can absolutely fire you for what you post on social media. It has happened, it continues to happen, and courts have upheld it so just be aware of that.

[@jasonwoodruff9546]

Actually a company can tell you what you can or cannot publish on social media if it causes tortious interference with the company's operations.

[@fdentconsulting1103]

veronica is my hero!!

[@murphybed7919]

Keep going with these. Yur gonna go go viral soon

[@rohiniguiland4873]

So unless she mentions the company she works at what is the issue. However some contracts have a morality clauses.

[@evilbluekoala626]

I just discovered these yesterday and I love these so much.

[@kingadello]

In the real world, this conversation wouldn't even take place. In at-will states, you'll simply suddenly be asked to handover your badge/keys and leave the premises.

[@Mark73]

The First Amendment forbids the government from preventing you from speaking you mind, not private companies. A private company is incapable of infringing on your First Amendment rights. Now, the company may not have a case against you in this situation, but not because of the First Amendment. This is a good topic for a video, but the First Amendment should never have been brought into it.

[@kathiswearingen2798]

I love your content! I haven't laughed this hard for way too long. Thank you! ❤ Veronica sounds just like me. Lol

[@Kein4463]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@JustXavier]

So, whan my lawyers call.... 😂😂😂😂😂

[@mypointofview1111]

Priceless

[@americandissident9062]

@@mypointofview1111Priceless because the vast majority of people can’t afford a lawyer to just call their manager whenever they need.

[@Nyx0npaws]

I love these videos

[@Toramt]

2:13 New 'social media' policy to appear in 3..2...1...

[@RealButcher]

Djeeezusss... I wish I could be like Veronica. Love her ❤❤❤🎉

[@amandalawrence5610]

This is awesome. I wish I could use my words like this.

[@Kein4463]

Don't risk your job 🤣

[@davidc.2826]

Well in the real world, companies will go to great lengths to filter out the “Veronikas”before they even get through the door (through reference checks, careful interviews, and even psychological tests). If there is a hiring mistake and “Veronikas” somehow manage to get in, there’s usually a probationary period which have more lenient terms to dismiss new hires which are considered disruptive to the “culture.” Any company with a half-competent legal department will have a battle-tested agreement document that all candidate employees must sign before they will be let in the door. And if there’s a violation, they’re written up, and eventually removed. “Veronikas” who don’t fit in with the company culture are a deemed a disruption and are legally engineered out.

[@cutieyuffie]

New Subscriber! Veronika is amazing! I love her videos!

[@Kein4463]

Thanks for subbing!

[@Allan_A]

Unless you're under contract, you are at will and they can fire you for any non-protected class reason. You can also quit whenever you want. You are free to post whatever you want, but you are not free from consequences.

[@drdotter]

I had HR & my supervisor contact me about a post I had put on Linkedin. My supervisor was cool, though. After HR had their spiel, I told them that I wasn't going to surrender my 1st Amendment rights just because some random moron called an 800#. I told them that I hadn't lied nor encouraged anything illegal or immoral and that I wasn't about to be bullied by them. I then asked HR if they had anything else they wanted to say to me. They responded angrily with a no. Only then did I tell my cool boss that I was going to remove my post because it had done its intended job. I never heard anything else about it and I continued to receive outstanding ratings for my work until I retired.

[@priscillajimenez27]

Dang no one is gonna hire Veronica. They'll see her as a reliability 😅

[@sparkplug1018]

The last part is only partially correct, they can’t tell you what you can do on social media as long as it’s clear you aren’t speaking for them. Be careful and don’t cross that line

[@DragonbornMike-ym2er]

The funny thing is that I would be more trusting of a company that employes someone uploading these things, or rather a company that someone who uploads these things chooses to work for.

[@kabob21]

Here in Texas they can and will fire you for less so long as they don’t run afoul of any anti-discriminatory or Federal protection laws (FMLA, military leave, etc). And while some employers will tell you why in the vaguest of terms, they aren’t obligated to do so. Also, the 1st amendment offers protections between you and the government, not you and your employer.

[@Lazaven]

Y'all can let these Veronica videos pipe y'all up if you want. Go out there and act like this if you want you won't be an elite employee and your paycheck will be affected!

[@selflovebling]

trainee group song you need my help not the way around thieves watching me all scare

[@loriar1027]

I'm pretty sure a company can fire you if you do something that publicly embarrasses them. That said, if the topic of her videos is workers' rights, I don't see how that would make them look bad unless she's using them as an example. In any case, going straight from zero to "my lawyer calling" might not be the best way to keep a job. 🤷‍♀️

[@pcr517]

Veronica = #MYSHERO

[@richardlarson7065]

God Bless Veronika

[@sarahlail2516]

An employee may not necessarily get the employer regarding 1st amendment rights but if the employees don't have their workplace named, listed or shown anywhere on their social media nor are they giving away company secrets or breaking laws then there is no reason for the company to micromanage their social media presence either and that can still violate labor and privacy laws and rights

[@2EKgn16]

Don't use your real name, use your personal computer/phone, dont tell anyone its you, dont mention company name if there are libel/disclosure policies or laws, dont use social media to throw hissy fits, but to shed light on real violations.

[@bobjayp]

fire it immediately.

[@louierivera7512]

Veronica is miss bad*ss 👍🏻👍🏻

[@kimsappington3885]

My current employer is trying to develop more of a “public” presence by going in on community activities which I have no problem with. However they ask the hourly employees to “volunteer” their time at these events. Why? Why not have some of the big wigs go out and work these events, they get paid more than the rest of us. Sorry, not me. Not going to work for free when it’s not a charity. I know someone may look at this and think my response is selfish, maybe but I think not. I work full time and need my personal time so I have life balance. Just Sayin’

[@rossheard9446]

Yeah, this is a beautiful place. I would love to visit never never land once in awhile too....I mean the employee had all the power there and the boss was like shaking in her boots. This does not happen. The company would fire you, maybe not for the "real" reasons but they'll make something up. You think they're new at this? C'mon.

[@Billybob50101]

Thinking the 1st amendment of the US constitution prevents a non-government entity that has hired you from censoring speech that negatively affects the company is a wild take. Any attorney that takes that case is going to demand payment up front.

[@abul9052]

Does anyone know what the source of these videos are? I’ve seen multiple channels with this

[@beasaroseco5840]

Gather Veronica!

[@misslisa382]

Booyah!

[@119Agent]

I guess I’m lucky, I’ve never experienced this type of company.

[@Kein4463]

Lucky are you

[@pineappleunderthesea5731]

What kind of job does Veronica have? Who gets these office computer jobs?

[@StephanieBrooklyn]

The problem is the manager should have kept her mouth shut. You know Veronica. You know how she is like. My cousin is a business, labor, and employment lawyer. She dealt with cases like this. This never goes well. She is trying to make hr look like the escape goat. She said most people like the manager dont have personal lives. Just clock out and leave drama at the office at the office. This crap 💩 makes you undesirable when you try to get another job. Getting another job without a reference is hard. They aren't going to write them one after she used them as an escape goat.

[@tinyshamrocks2172]

A ‘scape’ goat.. not an ‘escape goat’ 🙄 Lordt have mercy

[@StephanieBrooklyn]

@@tinyshamrocks2172 it's my auto correct.

[@sickofcrap8992]

​@@tinyshamrocks2172"Lordt" 😂🤣😂🤣

[@melissasaint3283]

​@@StephanieBrooklynI understand. My autocorrect once made me tell someone they were "a lone Wolf Blitzer"

[@ARedMotorcycle]

Escape goat? My god, that was stupid.

[@jlexiaon7494]

@tinyshamrocks2172…… you are absolutely right 😂 best not to get too gassed up by some of these videos bc you will be let go in no time …….so just make sure u have back up plans if you talkin tough

[@celebrityrog]

Unless my social media presence somehow includes the name or location where I work it’s irrelevant. There is no right to free speech or the first amendment at work, it applies solely to government oppressing your speech. That said your off time is your own so long as it doesn’t involve work at all.

[@riffgroove]

When you work for a private company, there is no such thing as "freedom of speech." You CAN be fired for what you post on social media. You can be fired for anything posted about you in social media. Just ask "Central Park Karen."

[@mypointofview1111]

You CAN take them to court and win

[@riffgroove]

@@mypointofview1111 Nope, you can't. If you post something online that the company you work for feels isn't in line with their values, you can be dismissed for it.

[@mik1of3]

Free speech ensures the right to free speech, and guarantees you won’t be jailed for it… but it doesn’t guarantee you protection from consequences. However, the punitive dismissal would likely result in a lawsuit because she is stating facts, she didn’t mention her employer by name, she didn’t use any work products, and didn’t do it on company time.

[@todw8244]

Free speech rights would not be applicable in this situation. The first amendment protects individuals from government interference in free speech. This situation does not involve the government. However, that does not mean that a company (legally another person) can limit the speech of an employee outside of the parameters of work.

[@Omnivorous1One]

I have seen this “skit” done on multiple channels. Exact same audio with slightly different animations. Im not saying you are the one using someone else’s work without credit given but somebody is.

[@PeaceNU2]

😂😂

[@momsnoteatingbugs1919]

actually, an employee does NOT have an unlimited right to free speech in the workplace. This is very misleading.

[@abotaccount6094]

Actually, this is about her free speech outside of work. Your comprehension skills are lacking.

[@mik1of3]

She’s not in the workplace. She’s at home, on her time, using her personal devices, stating facts, and not mentioning her employer by name. I bet you work in HR.😏

[@SuperMrgentleman]

1. Holy shit the employer is pushy, I wouldn't want to deal with someone like that 2. Dang I don't want Veronika working for me

[@selflovebling]

more for emile right and your gossip interest outside boundaries searching me and talking shit julie

[@dianacano780]

❤👍

[@selflovebling]

no surete du quebec

[@Omego2K]

Not saying it's good, but if you're an at will employee they can actually remove you because of social media or any other non-protected reason. Even the color of your hair or even if you advocate for green being your favorite color. They can even fire you for blinking too much

[@garyowen9044]

The moral of this story, never hire someone who looks like they’d be a lawsuit to fire.

[@selflovebling]

try u will be force to handle my case to surete du quebec then

[@EyeLean5280]

Why do so many channels post these cartoons?

[@DogBehaviorGuy]

You have no right to free speech within a company. The government can't legally censor you (not that that will ever ever stop them), but corporations absolutely can. May not explicitly be a social media clause, but I'd put $20 on there being a clause regarding representing the company in a harmful manner or something along those lines.

[@bigslick1125]

By taking this stance, Veronica needs to know her contract and the employee handbook forwards and backwards. They will try and find a way to let her go on the smallest infraction. If she has a good lawyer, has tons of persistence, and gets the ACLU involved she might get a settlement.

[@ThereIsNoOtherHandleLikeMine]

There is no "Right of Free Speech" where companies are involved. The First Amendment only applies to the government.

[@darkdudironaji]

"Infringe my right to free speech"??? The first amendment only has to do with the government, not the company you work for.

[@peterbaker3314]

No, they can't restrict what you post but they can react to it - most states are 'at will' employment.

[@-jfo-]

It is clear to me in Australia you only got basic hospital cover and you didn't get extras for specialist care. My private insurance in Australia has covered me for years for specialists. You just have to pay for it as part of your insurance. Also you aren't comparing apples with apples, most Malaysians can't afford insurance to get the cover you have an expat. Your comparison is not very accurate.. And BTW I lived in Malaysia for 20 years before coming to Australia.

[@kelf114]

The gist of the conversation is: If you're going to be one of the faces of the company, be mindful of what you post. Yes, it's still your personal page with your personal choice....but you are still a representative of where you work. You never know what clients or customers will see you. Being online is the same as being out in public.

[@YoniX50]

Thousandth like :)

[@prrplex5594]

I watched a couple of these videos now, while funny sentiment, the author obviously doesn't know much about HR or most labor laws. I would call these shower thoughts at best, but the misses are cringey.

[@KL-zg7lu]

You can't actually be disciplined over legal advice videos. That shows that the company does not believe you have rights.

[@Shawn-zt3gv]

Lol you posted this and actually believe it. You're giving very terrible advice. Stop it

[@tinyshamrocks2172]

I lost brain cells watching this