Managing Groups and Components in SketchUp with the Outliner - The SketchUp Essentials #18

[@russellschundler6559]

Just-in-Time learning makes tools like SketchUp so valuable and easy to learn. Just-in-Case learning, a method used so much in the past, tends to overload the student with too much information, often at the wrong time. Thanks for such well thought out Just-in-Time modules!

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Lol - I guess I do this for tutorials I make too :)

[@vicarioustube]

WANTED TO ADD. I have been on SKU for self taught for years and am 60+ I wish I was OCD instead of ADHAD doing 60 storey building concepts etc. What you taught me about OUTLINER was the BEST EVER. I always get drawn into the model creation and make groups etc galore but most of the time forget to give them names. Yesterday this came to bite me in the bum very blatantly. I could NOT find two items that were not part of a bigger group I want to move and slide in an animation. THANK YOU SO MUCH now I have to spend x month to name all the groups in all my models I'll be done by 80 probably. But I promise myself I never ever will not name anything on my screen.

[@patrixemabelnogales1804]

Such a life saver! I hated doing windows and interiors cause it takes a lot of time and effort re-editing them. Thanks for making a video about groups and components!! I hope you make more videos!!

[@gregmccright]

Very helpful, Justin. Thanks! SketchUp is powerful but intimidating for a beginner. Your systematic approach to explaining the tool makes it MUCH easier to start being productive.

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Thank you! Really glad you're finding it easy to follow!

[@PJMScheduling]

You are one of the best teachers I've come across on KZbin. Thanks so much for making these videos. My wife and I our designing and building our own home and I feel like every day I'm watching your videos and the content is right on point.

[@davidwiseley633]

The mediocre teacher tells; The good teacher explains; The superior teacher demonstrates; but the greatest teacher inspires. You have inspired me to learn and use outliner. My sincere thank you for being a great teacher. Many blessings upon you from one who has been blessed by your instruction.

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Thank you very much :)

[@davidwiseley633]

Very helpful. I appreciate your naming things with simple obvious names. I used to teach the same way with files named big dog, little dog etc. This tool is so powerful but I did not understand how useful it was. Thank you for taking time and effort to explain in a simple straight forward but complete manner. Making complex items simple to understand is the mark of a superior teacher. Thanks.

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Glad you liked it David! I try to make it as easy to understand as possible :)

[@stevensrmiller]

Another helpful basic tutorial. Good to emphasize that groups can include instances of components, and that component definitions can include groups.

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Glad you liked it :)

[@alkin3126]

Thank You!!! You have saved me so much time. I am so used to something similar in The adobe suite!!!!!

[@jcjewell]

Wow, this is just a SUPER valuable feature that I didn't know was there. Granted, I'm pretty new to Sketchup, but man, this is something that a person really should know right off the bat. It sure would have made a lot of what I was doing a heck of a lot easier. Then again, having done it the hard way for a while makes me really appreciate the outliner. Thanks for the great tutorial!

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Glad you liked it - it was a game-changer for me as well!

[@kmlanham1]

This was rally helpful. I can see immediate uses and benefits. I especially like being able to find things which are hidden. I just need to learn to stay organized as my models grow. Thank for your efforts!!

[@Thesketchupessentials]

I'm surprised more people don't focus on model organization using the outliner, as it definitely makes working in your models a lot easier. As you practice and use it more, it basically just becomes second nature. Thanks for watching!

[@kikoeart3021]

I never new about outliner, this is saving me so much headache! Thanks so much :)

[@Thesketchupessentials]

It's a huge timesaver, that's for sure!

[@mearkitek3773]

Came back for a refresher... now that I need it!

[@Thesketchupessentials]

😀

[@georgelewisray]

This information is SO HELPFUL , just like your great channel. THANKS for what you do !!!

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Thanks for watching George - glad it's helping!

[@sukmahadi4253]

very helpful, because I often create lots of groups in sketchup.. Thank you very much

[@markvallarino2847]

This is very helpful. Wish I learned this earlier. It has simplified the management of my models, thanks

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Awesome - glad you liked it - I really like working with the outliner - huge timesaver :)

[@9thTerminal]

Good, clear presentation. I needed that review. Thank you.

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Glad it helped!

[@dewdewism]

Was going to say something! Great,sweet, easy and clear. Wow! If I would have known earlier, it would have saved me ton of work! Thanks for the Video!

[@ManorWood]

Great Video as alway mate , if you are making a cabinet would a side panel be a group or component ? I guess a component and the you group the L,R and rear ?? cheers Andy

[@isidromacabenta1682]

really useful for huge kind of modeling.

[@Thesketchupessentials]

:)

[@mchingwang2824]

Very helpful skill! It open a new window for me about sketchUp! Thank you so much!

[@Thesketchupessentials]

:)

[@dennismagee9486]

Just starting Sketchup . . . just what I needed!

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Awesome - if you learn how to use this, it will save you a TON of time in the future. Thanks for watching!

[@essokamel2184]

Thank you this is really helpful!

[@mearkitek3773]

Nicely explained and demo’d Justin!

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Thanks!

[@russellschundler6559]

Thanks ... a very important subject.

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Thanks for watching!

[@edwardreich3981]

Good video! That's going to help me managing my models big time!

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Awesome - thanks for watching! Hope it saves you a lot of time going forward!

[@dharmagraphics-architects7363]

Very helpful Justin. Our instructor didn't show us this. I need to review this Organising in Revit also.

[@Thesketchupessentials]

The outlines is easily my favorite tool for organizing your model. I wish more people would focus on it within SketchUp. Thanks!

[@swallowedinthesea11]

Interesting! I don't think I'll use the Outline because I've been using Layers for years, but it's good to know such a feature exists.

[@Thesketchupessentials]

It's a HUGE help for keeping models organized - can save you a lot of time double clicking into nested groups

[@crosstheline.1969]

Awesome information, I learned a lot from this. Thanks !!

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Thanks for watching!

[@dharmagraphics-architects7363]

Hello! Justin. I just had an interview with a big company last weekend. I had Friday, and all weekend to prepare for it. I used Revit and SketchUp. They wanted to see 'a rendering of a plan.' It turns out that it was a side angle (SketchUp rendering) of an apartment. I reminded the man that this 'angle' is what used-to-be an Axonometric drawing. This could be a job.

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Hope it goes well for you!

[@gordonchapman222]

Liked and subbed, I found that easy to follow and very informative, thanks for sharing

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Thanks very much! :)

[@selimbatuhan4959]

Thank you for your videos! This one as helpfull as all the others!

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Thanks for watching!

[@claysoules]

Great Information...I wish that I had learned this earlier. So now to the lack of organization, I've worked myself into a box with the lid closed. What i'd like to know is how to open the box to see the light?

[@vijaykumar-gb3ev]

hi justin, is their any way we can copy scenes from one model to other. and thanks a lot for your videos.

[@kiatlam9108]

Useful, avoid confusion when you have created more and more components....

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Glad you liked it!

[@cognitor900]

How helpful was this info? Really really helpful!! But I'm away from my pc so my question is "is outliner available in SU Make or only Pro?" I've looked a lot for some sort of editing tool for components a lot....been really irritating not being able to find anything edit functional. Thanks Justin

[@Thesketchupessentials]

The outliner is available both in the Make and Pro verstions of SketchUp - thanks for watching!

[@FritsBlankenzee]

Never know that it was there. So I never used it. But it seems very handy. So I am going to try it. Thanks

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Perfect - it made a huge difference for me. Thanks for watching!

[@augustus1681]

Like this explanation of features but … I just downloaded the 30 day trial of Sketchup Pro 2023 and I can’t find the outliner. I’m feeling like I’m wasting hours looking for answers and the 1,000’s of videos and discussions are spread out across a different product ( Pro, Make, Layout, Previous versions every year, etc). How can i find specifically the answers to the product/ year (version) I’m using? 3:49 3:49

[@jeffreyschroll3458]

Hey Justin, Is there a way to un group? Say that you forgot to group individual items and then realized that you didn't want them in the larger group and wanted to put them in a smaller group or edit them what can you do? I have a drawing the I forgot to group different components as I went along now I need to edit certain parts of the group but it is affecting the whole group. What do I do?

[@firstfalls]

Thanks for this - helpful.

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Perfect - thanks!

[@gerrys6265]

Thank you so much for your videos...great info always. Is it possible to make a group of items a component so that changing individual items within the group will also change if you change one of them? I can make it a component but changing one item doesn't change the others....thanks!

[@lescooley977]

I didn't know - great!

[@alwaysgreener2856]

I like these intro with the boxes growing and shifting, what software did you use to achieve this? Simple but cool! I am trying to get into After Effects, that's why I am asking!

[@Thesketchupessentials]

All of my videos are created in Camtasia - thanks!

[@benjamingoogins1267]

Thank you!

[@dewdewism]

I'm going to start using this tool tomorrow. Is there a good Facebook Group that shares pictures of their models. Please leave link. I'm very good at Grouping now. I knew about components, but didn't know how to use it. The reason I didn't use it, I wasn't good enough to start using this tool, and fill I'm ready to move to the next level now.

[@bingingwithcomicsnerd8069]

is there a plugin that combines group without creating sub group?

[@Casey6996]

Hi Justin how can i ungroup in Sketchup 2020 it drive me nuts because it won't let me put in 2 extra windows that i forgot to put in a couple of rooms

[@mohamedsahraoui2733]

Always good infos thank you

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Thanks very much!

[@dungflinger]

How would you take 100 of the cylinders that are currently unique and turn them into a component. So that I can modify 1 to change all 100?

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Like going back and replacing them with components? That's a little tricky - probably faster to just make them components to begin with

[@NOHATEALAWWED34]

Is Outliner available in SU Make 2017 Free?

[@PatValentineZiv]

Can you explain which functions are and not on free sketch?

[@Noorstud]

Once an abject is grouped or nested grouped, how do you know that it is ready for editing ? And 2nd question is : why when using explode command on an object of component, it modifies that object only and not all components ?

[@Thesketchupessentials]

I guess I don't understand the first question - if you're talking about when you can edit the faces of the object itself, it will be whenever you can select the individual parts of the object (lines, faces) - For the second question - if you're exploding the overall individual component, it will work on that instance only by unlinking it from the other copies of that component. If you're exploding something grouped WITHIN the component, it will affect ever other instance as well. Hopefully that made sense

[@Noorstud]

Thanks..Very clear.

[@zsuzsagulyas]

Hi Justin, amazing channel. Thanks so much for this! Have you any idea why materials and colours change across groups even if only a single item is being edited? I deleted and re-added elements and groups, but the problem stays. Thanks again!

[@kriskurnat1104]

hi man, I have small issue, for some reason if i 3ple click my objects to create component after i name it, and hit enter i noticing that it is still "exploded thing".. i have to 1st make a group and than change to component.. did you ever heard that happenn it is kind of annoying as is changing my routines ... help..

[@vicarioustube]

One question I have how to UNMAKE a component without deleting it when it is already in a group?

[@alistaircameron5247]

Hi, new to Sketchup and seem to have deleted my Layer info from Entity Info, any advice ?

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Layers were renamed to "tags" - does it have a "tag info" of some sort?

[@billkunnecke7421]

Justin clear presentations. I am curious about the tool display and how it differs from the free sketchup version I want use with my secondary students. The one I have at app.sketchup.com/app?hl=en# shows tools in black & white and has the ones on the left vertical panel "menued" vs. your video display of color and tools all along each frame of the screen. Is there a technique I can use to get my working screen closer to your tutorial screen. It would help the students find and use tools more quickly. Thanks

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Not really - the online version just fundamentally looks different than the desktop version - the keyboard shortcuts work in a similar fashion though...

[@billkunnecke7421]

@@Thesketchupessentials , thanks for info. I have limited experiences, so.sorry if this question sounds naive. Can I assume that all commands you use are there, just organized in different places on the online version?

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Generally, but not always - for example - I don't know if the outliner (the topic of this videos) is available in the SketchUp for Schools version - that said, most of the modeling tools, like shapes, push pull, follow me, etc will be very similar. I think your materials application will be significantly different - it's kind of a case by case thing, and I don't know super well just because I use the desktop version

[@billkunnecke7421]

@@Thesketchupessentials I see. I noticed people were real worked up about the inability to use extensions on the online version. I am not real clear what "extensions" are. Can you give me an example of what they are and how its used?

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Extensions allow you to add functions to the desktop version of SketchUp - Shape Bender is an example - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHm1hoF9hM57Zs0&lc=UgwxTXqQu9vjWKWw0t94AaABAg

[@maxe381]

Please help!! I’m pretty new to SketchUp (less than 6 months of use). I had no clue what exactly “groups” were, but I knew they kept my components geometry from sticking together. So..naturally, I was making groups all OVER the place. I discovered outliner right before this video. I need to ungroup a ton of stuff, or risk re-making my entire model 😔. I use SketchUp web and Shop. I can’t figure out where or how to UNgroup things

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Right click, "explode"

[@VideoNOLA]

Pretty sure the Outliner is one of the features omitted by the Free version of SketchUp.

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Yeah - I think you have to buy the shop version for that

[@alexscott910]

i dont have a 'Outliner'-tab. what am i doing wrong? Im using sketchup make 2017 btw. EDIT: found the solution. you can edit your tray. its one tab below the Show/ Hide Tray.

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Perfect! I was just about to write a response for this, but looks like you got it!

[@Stealth01030]

how do you remove from a group to make it a component

[@VideoNOLA]

Layers, Components, Groups ... yeah, can get a bit muddly for n00bs. Especially since other programs use these terms to refer to very different things and functions.

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Yep - it seems like it's slightly different with every program

[@VideoNOLA]

@@Thesketchupessentials I've been wrestling for over 2 hours tryna figure out how to REMOVE (some of the) objects from a Group (in Free). Seems impossible?

[@claysoules]

I notice that most of the entries here are a year or two old...are there more recent entries?

[@Thesketchupessentials]

I don't know where you're getting that - I put out multiple videos a week usually

[@claysoules]

@@Thesketchupessentials I guess that all I was asking is how do I get to some of the recent comments? I have subscribed to your videos, however I've not seen any updates. I wasn't trying to be critical.

[@Thesketchupessentials]

@@claysoules You can go to my channel here - kzbin.info and look in the Uploads list, or click on the Videos tab to see all my recent videos. I can't make KZbin show you my videos on their home page - that's all the algorithm

[@ouahabnardjess7141]

bravooooo

[@kenwheatley1781]

You didn't say how to ungroup!

[@Thesketchupessentials]

Right Click, "Explode"

[@Deontjie]

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[@seksantipapala1878]

Thanks so much