I remember i was at junior school back then and was in the park playing football with my mates and someone bought a radio with them to listen to the football scores. He then yells out to me 'hey Chris spurs are losing 2-0, ha ha ha.' When i got home i feared the worst and went mad when my dad told me Spurs won 3-2. I then managed to persuade him to let me watch MOTD if i washed his car in the morning. Watching this again brought back memories i had forgotten about but God knows how we won. Thanks for posting.
@grahamevans9606 Жыл бұрын
Both kits are superb. Glory days for simpler but good looking kits.
@panchopuskas18 ай бұрын
absolutely.....
@robertbaglin39734 жыл бұрын
My first ever game at Old Trafford to watch my beloved UTD.Not the best of starts but didn’t put me off and have seen UTD play well over a 1000 games now both home and away and all over Europe.Some magical moments and memories but for me the Tommy Doc era was the best for atmosphere and pure attacking football closely followed by Fergie time.
@redflag89703 жыл бұрын
Respect
@rum1113 жыл бұрын
if only they had not sacked the doc,gave him more money for shilton and osgood,who knows,they beat a good liverpool side in the final.
@2msvalkyrie5292 жыл бұрын
Yes . God bless you Doc .! You WERE the greatest.!🙏🙏
@jerryoshea3116 Жыл бұрын
Speaking as a long suffering Spurs fan(with UTD 2nd fav team,.Busby Charlton Law and Georgie Best)but with 2 older Brothers who backed Man U,who agreed with u..They were a very entertaining team&that first Rocket by Steve Coppell (using a hard Leather Ball,not todays kids football!)was something to behold!
@eddyvideostar Жыл бұрын
Dear Robert Baglin: You are truly one of the most dedicated fans. Please post this comment to Mark Goldbridge of the United Stand Channel. He is "dedicated" in a different way: Knowing his savvy: how to *make money* from Silicon Valley's KZbin babbling from his basement and studio apartment. MG is laughing at us.
@aaanawaleh2 жыл бұрын
Great quality and length for a great game. Thanks!
@ultimatesoccershow Жыл бұрын
I was 11 when this game played and I've watched every United game since BUT! The team of the early 1970's - early 1980's was amazing to watch! Memories are plenty :) Glory Glory!
@gregod8064 жыл бұрын
Barry Daines came out with one of the best lines ever, he said....."I'm the best keeper in the country........it's the towns I struggle in" LMFBO
@jerryoshea3116 Жыл бұрын
Actually I think he was 👍 better keeper than I remembered!
@jamesb_21216 ай бұрын
@@jerryoshea3116He was he just had to try and follow Pat Jennings! Not only in Spurs fans minds but their hearts too. COYS
@GRichfamgfam2 ай бұрын
😂😂 classic
@jelaw553 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I don't remember this game. Must be John Pratt's finest moment in a Spurs shirt.
@redflag89706 жыл бұрын
this utd an that summer an era will always have a special place in my heart
@scherben88705 жыл бұрын
A definite spirit of excitement around Old Trafford at that time.
@waltertryhuba34003 жыл бұрын
What an amazing summer of 76. Best ever. Loved the 70s..
@grahamwood9428 Жыл бұрын
Boy, has football gone backwards. 22 (plus 10, yes 10 possible substitutes) full time cheats on the pitch nowadays. How did we ever get to where we are now, so sad.
@josephazzopardi3229 жыл бұрын
RIP Ralph Coates, Ian Moores and Jimmy Neighbour.
@scherben88709 жыл бұрын
+Joseph Azzopardi I knew about Ralph Coates, but not the other two. RIP all three plus Brian Greenhoff.
@josephazzopardi3229 жыл бұрын
+scherben Yes, it is always sad to hear of former players passing away. In a way they were all a part of our lives.
@scherben88709 жыл бұрын
+Joseph Azzopardi Agree 100%
@redflag89706 жыл бұрын
not one yid in ground
@redflag89704 жыл бұрын
Richard Carpenter my mistake sorry one yid an wife lol
@gregod8064 жыл бұрын
How good was Coppell, not just this game but nearly every game.
@scherben88704 жыл бұрын
One of the best United have had.
@robertbaglin39732 жыл бұрын
My first ever game at Old Trafford after watching a few away games first.Stood on the Stretford End in that seething mass and was hooked from there on. George Baglin.
@jonboy991221 күн бұрын
I remember that - it was just before my 21st and watching it today knowing the result I still thought we would lose! Interesting to contrast that game to one I watched last night when we beat United again 4-3 in the Carboe Cup or whatever the League Cup's called these days. Players back then took fouls and got up without trying to get the tackler sent off and didn't argue that much even with the linesman - the one in 76 looked fierce! No diving, not too much spitting and the game flowed so much better without the cheating that seems to be coached into the game these days! Its depressing to know so many of those young men have since passed away but it was a great day in the sun for Spurs and United have had their revenge on many occasions since!
@yippyialeftside83517 жыл бұрын
how great was football in this era place was heaving with real fans full of scarves and banners
@scherben88707 жыл бұрын
At Old Trafford at least, better than now. Shame we didn't win a stack of trophies in front of that crowd.
@michaelnicholas71014 жыл бұрын
@@scherben8870 Around a month ago ITV 4 showed the complete game of the 1968 european cup final: Man utd 4-1 Benfica but uniquely it was the ITV version with Hugh Johns as commentator. I was wondering whether you had it in your possession or know of any body who has. The singing was so much better than the BBC version and showed the Utd fans more. I was away on holiday at the time otherwise I would have recorded it myself. Do you have any rare 70s utd you might want to sell please Scherben?
@scherben88704 жыл бұрын
@@michaelnicholas7101 I don't own many DVDs, but those that I do own, I buy from here: oldfootballdvds.weebly.com/ Unfortunately, the 1968 final is unavailable from there due to copyright. There are plenty of 1970s matches, however.
@michaelnicholas71014 жыл бұрын
@@scherben8870 Thank you any way
@peezebeuponyou37742 жыл бұрын
And Glenn Hoddle didn't get a single mention- Motty obviously didn't know who he was.😆
@scherben88702 жыл бұрын
I'd have loved Hoddle at United-and so would Ron Atkinson.
@Colvill7 жыл бұрын
I'm a Spurs fan. I went to this with a couple of mates, I was about 14, we bought utd scarves outside and went in the family enclosure. We left at 2-2 and there were loads of utd outside screwing us out, they knew we wern't right, but the red and white scarves put enough doubts in their minds for us to get away safely. We found out we won on the bus back to the station, looking over someones shoulder at ther pink un, well my memory tells me it was pink, but it might have been the green un.
@scherben88707 жыл бұрын
It would've been pink. But there wasn't a family stand at OT till 1985. :)
@Colvill7 жыл бұрын
Family enclosure, it was on the side, I think the side opposite to the camera, we were nearer the Stretford end. everyone had a family enclosure.
@scherben88707 жыл бұрын
No family 'enclosure' at OT till 1985. You may remember it as such, but it wasn't.
@Colvill7 жыл бұрын
We had no idea where we going, there must have been something indicating it was a safer place to stand. We stood next to a woman who kind of took care of us. Couldn't believe how cheap it was, especially, as in my opinion, it was the best ground in the country.
@scherben88707 жыл бұрын
Was a source of pride how cheap it was to get into OT. That ended at least 25 years ago. You were definitely safer where (I think) you were, than the Scoreboard Paddock.
@carpediem42903 жыл бұрын
Effectively nothing can be taken for granted. I cannot understand how Utd. With a most beautiful play could loss the match. On the first half forgave many opportunities. Thanks for video. Is total and authentic football. Salutations from Barcelona.
@showeyes Жыл бұрын
Matchday on Thursday.
@alanoconnor6921 Жыл бұрын
Oh it's easy to understand,,the team that scores the most goals wins!!
@max-ux4ln10 ай бұрын
i was at this game, best half of football remember united playing for many a year. To this day still galling me we lost it in the second half.
@fastfootedone5 жыл бұрын
What a character display by Spurs. Down 2-0 in enemy territory, they go out and dominate the 2nd half and walk away with the win. Now THAT is how it's done!
@scherben88705 жыл бұрын
Not forgetting their incredible 22nd position at the season's end. ;)
@redflag89704 жыл бұрын
Not really a club or outfit noted for delivering the goods
@elainekerslake6865 Жыл бұрын
@@scherben8870 and gunners were down there as well. Only got safe last few games.
@kitswithkaren50032 жыл бұрын
Some of the best football I have ever seen by utd.It is hard to believe they still lost.I wonder what the doc had to say after the game?🤗🐻👍
@chris-rfs4 жыл бұрын
Great game! We beat United with 2 of the worst Spurs players ever,Ian Moores and Barry Daines! I remember this like it was yesterday,but nearly 45 yrs ago,unbelievable!.
@joanofarc7082 жыл бұрын
The crowds wow
@mrmods79129 күн бұрын
Them ties on Uniteds shorts where iconic!!
@gnwillou2 жыл бұрын
The Doc got it wrong when Gerry Daly left. He and Martin Buchan two of my all time United favourites ..Yes I was at this game!
@talkinghead31692 жыл бұрын
He got it wrong when he thought he would just pump everyone's mrs. The old dog!
@paulkeller9018 Жыл бұрын
Was in the Stretford paddock that day, thinking "game over at 2-0," credit to Spurs, came back well, day made even more miserable by Lancashire losing the Gillette cup final at Lords !
@jerryoshea3116 Жыл бұрын
Strange game!, Because as a long suffering Spurs fan,Man U were such the better team!(A side full of talent&all round footballers)But they took their foot off the pedal(with Spurs getting lucky with that first goal,which most likely didn't go over the line!)and Barry Daines and Jimmy Neighbor playing well,but the rest of the team looking inept..So United playing great football but throwing the game away!
@scherben8870 Жыл бұрын
It's possible it didn't go over the line initially, but that doesn't matter: a Spurs player whacked the ball into the net anyway; so you still won fair and square.
@jerryoshea3116 Жыл бұрын
@@scherben8870 Yep, 👍 a win's a win!!
@glenjarnold3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there for this one, but was there for the Leeds match in the Stretford End, my first United match. My outstanding memory is of standing next to a tall Scottish guy in a long overcoat who was constantly calling Joe Jordan a bastard! 😂
@edcurrie5442 Жыл бұрын
I was there, how the hell did we lose that. Great Times.
@steverady4869 Жыл бұрын
I was there too.. I don't know how we lost this game.
@bukitbatokmy8529 Жыл бұрын
I was 7 year old , share a twin bed & my older brother was fine tuneninng a radio FM to listen
@scherben8870 Жыл бұрын
Now _that's_ committment. 👍
@SMSJSC4 жыл бұрын
What superb, attacking football United produced in that first half. But you don't win league titles by losing matches like that. Having said that, The Doc did bring a brand of fotabll to Old Trafford that was refreshing and exciting, and really should have won more. I think they would have if The Doc hadn't been sacked at the end of that 1976-77 season. It wasn't the same again for a long time.
@scherben88704 жыл бұрын
The atmosphere's never recovered - even to now.
@waltertryhuba34003 жыл бұрын
Total agreement. The atmosphere was just what the doc ordered Best times ever.
@redflag89703 жыл бұрын
Utds fan base had new interest an a army of young fans that had come of age from best an European cup. Timing was perfect with promotion the doc it’s a very youthful atmosphere which can only be had from the young
@gregod8064 жыл бұрын
Spurs were awful that season. I saw them at home to Newcastle 0-2, before this game and said to a bloke in work (fellow spurs fan) they would go down, after this result he said "You don't know what you're talking about" Sadly for us he had to eat humble pie that year.
@scherben88704 жыл бұрын
One journalist tipped them to win the league that season. Well, they did finish 22nd top.
@Realbillball2 жыл бұрын
Lesson to learn: In football, you don't get points for style. You need goals.
@73reider9 жыл бұрын
ATT 60,723 Old Trafford was a beautiful sight back then......
@scherben88709 жыл бұрын
mcbrando It still is; but I agree: I think it was extra special then, too.
@martinspencer64556 жыл бұрын
Spurs brought next to nothing, united would take 10,000+ to the lane.,
@ ye utd were poor at millwall an no one lets us forget it. as for west ham game so what if utd came unstuck they still went when others didnt
@waltertryhuba34003 жыл бұрын
I was at this game n i still can't believe they lost. I think Lancashire were in a cricket final on this date. Can anyone help me in answering my query.!!
I was there stood in the Stretford paddock behind the United dug out, still can't believe how we lost the game
@Keithbarber4 жыл бұрын
You lost the game because spurs scored one more goal than you, which earned them the 2 points that day Who ever puts the ball in the net the most times wins
@richardhare39964 жыл бұрын
keith barber brilliant I’d never have thought of it in that context, do you work for NASA by any chance (with that level of intelligence if you don’t you ought to) !!!
@Keithbarber4 жыл бұрын
@@richardhare3996 What I forgot to mention is if either team fails to score, a 0-0 scoreline, or the scoreline is an equal number of goals, I.e., 2 each, 2-2 scoreline, its called a draw, and each team gets 1 point each A 0-0 result is called a goalless draw, or no score draw, and 1-1,2-2 etc, is called a score draw In a cup game, if the result was a draw, the match would have to be replayed, or extra time played, and still a score draw, then a penalty shoot out would be used to settle the match - can you explain rocket science to me?
@richardhare39964 жыл бұрын
@@Keithbarber you really do need to get out more !!! 😂😂😂
@ΝικοςΧαραλαμπους-γ8ο4 жыл бұрын
@@Keithbarber WELL HE MEANT THAT THE AWAY TEAM WERE LUCKY WHAT PLANET ARE YOU LEAVING?
@colinturner41582 жыл бұрын
John Pratt Tottenham through and through
@stephenreeds3632 Жыл бұрын
How bad was Coates? They only bought him coz he had a comb over like Charlton.
@daveluck5717 Жыл бұрын
How did that happen ??? .... Could have been 4-0 at half time..
@scherben8870 Жыл бұрын
Could've been 8-0.
@Neil-dl3ke Жыл бұрын
I was their for this one aged 8 on my big brothers shoulder in utd Road wavering my silk scarves round my head
@bestevestkant64374 жыл бұрын
Lol at the lad in the crowd at 6:35.
@willjones87742 жыл бұрын
Grovelling Motson introduction
@scherben88702 жыл бұрын
Still factually accurate, however.
@willjones87742 жыл бұрын
Not bad for a team a couple of years out of the old 2nd Division
@onlyjoetee Жыл бұрын
Great game, 2 halves, 2 styles…
@BrendonChase20124 жыл бұрын
I'd completely forgotten this game, still hard to believe Spurs came from two down, they really should have had to come from about nine down. Docherty was building something quite special at MU, maybe they could have challenged Liverpool, such a shame how it all ended for him. Still, him and Mary are still together 43 years later and United have won the league 13 times since, so all is well that ends well.
@scherben88704 жыл бұрын
It could've ended better, though. That said, we were a couple of players short - just like now.
@robicenco13 жыл бұрын
We'll never know obviously, but I suspect United wouldn't have been able to match Liverpool even if Docherty had stayed - they could have become respectable challengers though.And the football would have been more exciting than it was under Sexton... RIP Tommy, it was his time at the club that gave the fans something to believe in again after a long period of absolute rubbish.
@peezebeuponyou37742 жыл бұрын
The Doc never got the credit he deserved, probably because of how it all ended, He inherited a pile of crap and rebuilt the team without spending piles of money and mainly recruiting players from lower leagues. Within 18 months they were playing great football and challenging for everything. Sexton and his 'sophisticated', cerebral approach, strangled the life out of the team. I suppose United wanted a safe pair of hands- literally- but they were never the same after he took over.
@peezebeuponyou37742 жыл бұрын
Tommy Doc: "If this team is left to develop". Well Tommy, if something hadn't developed in your trousers, the team would indeed have gone far.
@scherben88702 жыл бұрын
To be fair to the Doc, it wasn't just lust; he was married to the woman for over forty years.
@kevinhoughton91342 ай бұрын
When football was enjoyable and exciting to watch, no passing back to the 'keeper from a corner!
@HandleGF4 жыл бұрын
This was a fluke and Spurs went down. United started well that season and were top of the league in early October. Then Buchan got injured and they couldn't function without him. He came back in mid-December and, of the 21 league and cup matches between Christmas and mid-April, United W 16 D 3 L 2. By then they were in the FA Cup semis and they threw three or four of the remaining league matches before winning at Wembley.
@scherben88704 жыл бұрын
The defeats at QPR and Middlesbrough were horrendous.
@HandleGF4 жыл бұрын
@@scherben8870 Yes, either side of the Leeds semi... .... the West Ham game just before the final proved a write-off too, as was the one at Anfield (0-1). There was a couple of iffy draws in the run-in too. They would have easily passed the fifty-point mark (like the season before that) otherwise.
@scherben88704 жыл бұрын
@@HandleGF And then it was all ruined...
@HandleGF4 жыл бұрын
@@scherben8870 They sacked the Doc for a Victorian offence and replaced him with the vicar.
@scherben88704 жыл бұрын
@@HandleGF 😁 Who promptly excommunicated our best wizard.
@bertcert991 Жыл бұрын
Got home to watch Lancashire lose the Gillette cup final on tv not the best Saturday of my life!
@Jamacianwoodbine3 жыл бұрын
Think that team would of won league if doc hadn't been sacked
@rstevens771110 ай бұрын
I'm not a United fan. I'm not a Spurs fan. I'm not an Arsenal fan. So, please take this question as a genuine one. Where were the Spurs fans? Did they not get any of the terrace at the scoreboard end?
@scherben887010 ай бұрын
There were some there incognito (some have commented here); but they didn't turn up in large enough numbers to have a segregated area for them. That wasn't an unusual occurrence at OT till about 1978 (there _were_ significant numbers of Tottenham fans for their next visit on December 16th, 1978).
@rstevens771110 ай бұрын
@@scherben8870 - Thanks for response.
@britishqueen947 ай бұрын
Spurs travelled to the midlands but not up North and no Midland or Northern club travelled London- simply because they wld get their heads kicked in. Only ManU travelled in numbers those days and wld get severe beatings in London.....Later on this season Spurs organised into an away firm and travelled everywhere up North @@rstevens7711
@steveblack610Күн бұрын
A small number of away fans would have seats in the main stand, camera side to the right as we look, near the Scoreboard Paddock.
@fatfums4773 Жыл бұрын
Even though the title gave the score I didn’t believe it would actually end 2-3 after watching that first half
@robinmorch10195 жыл бұрын
Once again THFC showed how to get it done.
@redflag89704 жыл бұрын
paul smith no that yr
@kevinhoughton91342 ай бұрын
Barry Daines was a much under rated 'keeper.
@HUGHWON5 жыл бұрын
Great support United had then, United supporters even filled the away terrace because Spurs fans just did not turn up at OT yet when United went to white hart lane they always took thousands
@chris-rfs5 жыл бұрын
Spurs were great to watch,but we had in the team the worst keeper we have ever had in Daines.He was terrible and also although he scored a few goals that season Ian Moores was a running joke.Spurs fans used to cheer when he got a shot on target! I recall this game like it was yesterday.
@alunjones6854 жыл бұрын
Agree that these two were well below standard but Daines actually has a good game here. Not sure what he's up to for first Man Utd goal but comes out well to prevent a couple of Utd 1 on 1 chances and that's a decent save at 15:30 ...
@gregod8064 жыл бұрын
Barry Daines came out with one of the best lines ever, he said....."I'm the best keeper in the country........it's the towns I struggle in" LMFBO
@tamesidefilming46502 жыл бұрын
Great comeback
@englanduk61313 ай бұрын
No matter how long ago it's always good to watch the swampdwellers lose after being two goals up!! 😂😂😂😂
@elainekerslake6865 Жыл бұрын
Spuds got relegated the next season
@scherben8870 Жыл бұрын
They got relegated _that_ season.
@clivemellor83673 жыл бұрын
I was at that game
@mikedavies99532 жыл бұрын
Spurs were terrible at this time how they won this game beggars belief
@paulburns185 Жыл бұрын
First Manchester United game I ever attended U N I TE D United are the team for me
@russellbishop16334 жыл бұрын
A season that started so well then it went tits up by losing 8-2 to Derby and it didn't get much better. I saw them once or twice and they were bloody awful. The worst side Tottenham ever produced in my lifetime.
@scherben88704 жыл бұрын
You went down with one of the highest win rates for a team in last place: almost one third of the total fixtures. It was a fairly even First Division that year, so you may have been a bit unlucky.
@russellbishop16334 жыл бұрын
@@scherben8870 I wasn't aware of that statistic but I can say I saw them play five times that season and for want of better wording, we were awful and in all fairness, relegation served us well: we were promoted the following season with a new impetus and within three years were a team to be reckoned with.
@stevehinde43644 жыл бұрын
The worst Spurs team was 1993-94. It holds the club record of seven consecutive league defeats. And won even fewer matches and achieved the same number of points (going on three points for a win) over a 42 game season, than the 1976-77 team. It finished 15th out of 22, that season. Yet didn’t ensure safety until their penultimate game. And at least the 1976-77 team had a young promising Glenn Hoddle.
@MrYFlyer2 жыл бұрын
Early 90s was worse for us.
@MrYFlyer2 жыл бұрын
@@stevehinde4364 because of that Chav Cundy.
@martinspencer64556 жыл бұрын
Have you got an email Scherben, lost touch with you since red issue years a go-martin wythenshawe.
@martinspencer64556 жыл бұрын
Southampton 77 5th round at the dell highlights have turned up-still after wolves 76 replay,77 charity shield and numerous bbc highlights-notts forest/county,bristol city h div 2 etc.
@scherben88706 жыл бұрын
Gave you tried oldfootballdvds.weebly.com/? I want QPR (Cup) 1977; WBA ((Home) Cup 1978); Tottenham (H) Dec 1978 and various others.
@colinturner41582 жыл бұрын
McAllister played very well again
@des6323 жыл бұрын
Coys
@diggers71694 жыл бұрын
I’m not quite sure how spurs managed to win this match...
@scherben88704 жыл бұрын
Doc's boys: always unpredictable.
@rubewaddell17044 жыл бұрын
By scoring more goals than united
@colinturner41582 жыл бұрын
Easy they scored three
@johnHudson-p7f3 ай бұрын
Spurs fans stayed at home that day
@DavidWilliams-km5xu3 жыл бұрын
Where are the spurs fans? And yes I know this was 1976. Did they not travel north then.? No segregation at old Trafford.
@Northerner1966 Жыл бұрын
From what i remember back then,and i was pretty young, many grounds didn't have segregation til about 77 or 78, so many away fans were wary of going to some grounds without segregation.. United always travelled as they had strength in numbers, of the London fans,Chelsea travelled well,but most other London fans rarely came up north. Tottenham and Arsenal rarely came north in number til the late 70s. I can remember Arsenal bringing just 17 fans on the open embankment terrace to Bolton in 78/79. Was an evening game, Bolton won 4-2, but 17 was abysmal. They did bring over 3K the following season though.
@SuperForest786 жыл бұрын
Yet Utd finish sixth in the league and Spurs are relegated, finishing bottom ! Utd should have been 5 up by half time-relentless
@HandleGF6 жыл бұрын
United had two bad league patches that season... (1) while Buchan was injured (2) some games were thrown away in the run-up to the cup final.
@fastfootedone5 жыл бұрын
they were relentless until the 2nd half! lol
@eddyvideostar5 ай бұрын
5:30.
@dlamiss6 жыл бұрын
Often wonder what would have happened to United has Docherty not been sacked they were not that good under Sexton although were League and cup runners up
@zinzanzut16 жыл бұрын
As a Derby fan...I wish he had stayed there..he destroyed our club....
@dlamiss6 жыл бұрын
The club was probably on the slide in fairness before Docherty turned up but in fairness he hardly helped
@scherben88706 жыл бұрын
We'd have won the League and European Cup, I reckon.
@martinspencer64556 жыл бұрын
Merlin has told me shilton was always asking him when utd were going to sign him.Lost him over a few quid and he would have been the difference.
@scherben88706 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, Martin. If there's one good thing Martin Edwards did, it was being realistic on wages. I think the difference with Shilton was £50 a week. We lost Pancho similarly.
@chubbyfive87203 ай бұрын
Real football
@peterquin499 Жыл бұрын
Glory, glory Tottenham Hotspur
@jonwiltsie107 Жыл бұрын
Where? When?
@iangallagher50714 жыл бұрын
coys
@jeffmead2935 Жыл бұрын
willie young a gooner and a spurs
@olikane530 Жыл бұрын
COYS
@thfccfht3 жыл бұрын
60,000 Plus and hardly a Manchester accent among them, Northern Pikies.
@mrwilliecowie3 жыл бұрын
The thing is Utd attracted people like me in the 70`s ( from the midlands ) I was at this game the atmosphere and craic was top notch, went to the game at spurs always remember that one because me car got stolen and was used in a armed robbery and was featured on police 5 and Shaw Taylor no kidding !