Dark Type Pokémon: Then vs Now

[@theoaremevano3227]

Grunty Boi: "I cannot steal an entire building." Giovanni: "I disagree."

[@cjdziesiuta1995]

Yeah, but it didn't really last, and was taken back by a snot nosed brat

[@JH-lb6qf]

N: hold my Reshiram.

[@theteleportedbread8803]

Platinum comander- hold my wind

[@JhoF79]

That's why he's a boss and he's just a grunt

[@GoofyAhhUncleProductions962]

When Jessie and James finally capture pikachu after 25 years then realized it’s useless because it can’t evolve Giovanni: perfect, now go capture zacian and zamazenta :)

[@The_One_In_Black]

Gen 1: "Dark" moves are Physical but Normal-type Gen 2: Dark type exists, but now for some reason Bite is Special Gen 4: "We can fix this; we have the technology."

[@robertlupa8273]

"We have technology" *SLAM* *SLAM* *SLAM* *SLAM*

[@santosthekazekage4564]

Gen 3?

[@justinsarcedo9355]

@@santosthekazekage4564 Gen 3 & 4: "We have a Sableye and Spirtomb, they have no weaknesses." Gen 6: "Behold! Fairy type!" How some Dark types feel about Fairy types? Sableye and Spirtomb (Sweating in fear): "This sucks." Bisharp: "Ahhh!!! Wait, I'm resistance to Fairy type because my secondary type is steel. This is fine." Skuntank & Drapion: "We're still good with the Fairy types." Alolan Grimer & Alolan Muk: "Meh. Doesn't bother us." Sableye: "I got a Mega Evolution for me? Awesome!" Spirtomb: "Wait, what about me?" Mega Sableye: "Good luck, pal!"

[@blesskurunai9213]

@@justinsarcedo9355 OK what have you done?

[@justinsarcedo9355]

@@blesskurunai9213 I made this joke because I think it's funny how Dark and Dragon type share the Fairy type weaknesses. Yet, Steel and Poison types helps counter this issues.

[@matigamer329]

Here's an updated version of this video: In gen 8, more specifically in Legend Arceus (excuse me, Arkoos) we got the Hisuian variants of Samurott and Qwilfish and Overqwil, the evolution of Hisuian Qwilfish. Off these, Hisuian Samurott would make the biggest impact. The new move was Ceasless Edge, the signature move of Hisuian Samurott, with 65 BP and 90 acc which has an increased critical hit ratio. It also leaves the target with splinters for 4 turns (strong style), 2 turns (agile Style), or 3 turns (otherwise). Now in gen 9 it sets up one layer of spikes on the target's side of the field and doesn't have high chances of critical hits anymore. Gen 9: the new pokémon were Meowscarada, Lokix, Mabostiff, Bombirdier, Kingambit, Brute Bonnet, Iron Jugulis, Wo-Chien, Chien-Pao, Ting-Lu, Chi-Yu and Roaring Moon. Off these Meowscarada, Kingambit and Chien-Pao would go on to make the biggest impact. Especially Chien-Pao who got banned to Ubers thanks to its incredible speed and incredible attack, powered by its ability Sword of Ruin, reducing the defense by all pokémon in the field by 25%. The new moves were Ruination which is the signature move of the Teasure of Ruin which deals damage equal to 50% of the opponent's remaining HP, Kowtow Cleave is for Kingambit with 85 BP that never misses, and Comeuppance which returns 1.5 times the damage dealt by the foe's last attack no matter if it's physical or special. The specialist is Giacomo, the boss of Team Star's Segin Squad. Please like this comment so more people can know this info.

[@yoon5848]

Great comment! Another fun fact, With the new Pokemon Lokix (Bug, dark), every type has now been paired with a dark. Making it the fourth type to have reached this status, after Flying, Water, and Psychic.

[@matigamer329]

@@yoon5848 true I forgot about that.

[@luigicraveiro]

great comment, thanks alot

[@twannieboy827]

Cool!

[@anjugupta8367]

There is one mistake. Hisuian Samurott is absolute trash. 😢

[@the_meadow]

‘Grunty Boi you can’t steal an entire house’ Squatter’s rights would like a word.

[@epicrgg]

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[@ccomposed]

Look at that mouth so round

[@Rekusasu827]

69th like

[@deltarayquaza4]

If Mikey ever makes “Fairy types: Then VS now”, It’ll probably be the shortest video ever

[@giyuutomioka3751]

😂

[@Oricorio-Pom-Pom]

Yes

[@paulschultz8011]

He’s probably make it a super long video by following it up with a fairy only play through

[@The_One_In_Black]

Here's hoping for "???: Then Vs Now" as an April Fool's video.

[@philibertyt2844]

Unless he talks about VGC that would make it a very long vid

[@snorlaxtjockofet]

I think a "Normal type: Then vs Now" video would be very interesting

[@jeffreygao3956]

I would like Fire type: Then vs Now. It’s warm and hospitable!

[@shenzhong3078]

@@jeffreygao3956 I think he is gonna do it last 3 cuz starters

[@johnnymac42069]

Aside from new mons, new moves, then the physical/special split…isn’t much to report on. I think rock, ground, fire or water should be up

[@LegendaryCaptain]

@@johnnymac42069 I'm saying rock due to it being uncreative back in gen 1 being attached to ground besides fossils, lack of moves early on, stealth rock being a real game changer etc

[@Ob1tuber]

There always good, from Snorlax and Taurous, to Blissey

[@cynthiabudin6981]

I feel like it should be noted that in Japan the Dark type is the "evil" type and because Gym Leaders are seen as role models to their community, Pokémon never wanted an "evil" gym leader. At least until Piers/Marnie came along, but they had ties to like "a gang" so it made more sense. (Giovanni doesn't really make sense with this logic but still)

[@amberknight7301]

I mean I guess it does make sense. Adding onto this, the manga had multiple Gym Leaders and Elite Four as evil team members. Multiple Gym Leaders in Kanto were secretly part of Team Rocket.

[@cynthiabudin6981]

@@amberknight7301 lol true, but the manga is also a completely different universe I feel hahaha

[@rockowlgamer631]

For Dark being an "evil" type, we sure got the nicest big brother and cinnamon roll sister ever

[@ccomposed]

I think the dark type was made to be used for the evil teams and is supposed to be evil

[@rockowlgamer631]

@@ccomposed no wonder they're so easy to beat, constantly using dark types Diversify the team a bit

[@crossagento3961]

There was one tiny thing that I think was missed: starting in Gen 7, Dark types are now immune to prankster.

[@wombat4191]

Yeah Mikey was like "then gen 7 came along and... well it didn't do that much" and I was like hol up man you specifically had to think of this problem in the MBF...

[@sammykonzel5660]

Uh prankster was made in gen 8

[@wombat4191]

@@sammykonzel5660 Uh no it wasn't. I remember using it at least in gen 6, and I think it's even earlier than that.

[@crossagento3961]

@@sammykonzel5660 Prankster was a hidden ability for Whimsicott from BW2 onward, it was Tornadus’ and Thundurus’ base ability, Klefki and Mega Banette got in in XY, then came the Grimmsnarl line in SwSh. It’s a Gen 5 ability.

[@azurneon]

@@sammykonzel5660 No, it wasn't: Whimsicott and Sableye had Prankster as abilities in Gen 5, and Klefki and Mega Banette got it in Gen 6. Grimmsnarl got it in Gen 8

[@1LPMx1]

Fun fact: The dark type has a really weird name in german. The regular german term for dark is "finster" or "dunkel". But rather than that being the type's german name, whoever was in charge of translation at that time instead came up with a new word. They took the prefix "un" (as in words like "unclear" "unimportant" etc.) and put it in front of "Licht", which is german for light. So the german name of the type is "Unlicht", which literally translates as "unlight". And yes, in german it sounds just as ridiculous as it does in english.

[@shillinhite3911]

I'm not a native speaker but I did play Gen 9 in German and I found it weird that they called the dark type this. Especially knowing what the Japanese translation is I feel like calling it finster would have been the logical move but LOL who knows xD

[@5tf6y7u8i9okpl]

Haha nice, all Pokemon types should have stupid names

[@TheAltMapper]

Fairy should be the “undragon” type, change my mind

[@michelzwiers7742]

As a fan of JRR Tolkien's work, I think 'unlight' is a pretty cool, if kind of odd, choice of words. In the Silmarillion, unlight is used to describe the webs spun by Ungoliant, a sort of primeval evil spider creature. It denotes not just the absence of light, but more so negative light, something that goes beyond just darkness and is more of a void that can't be seen through.

[@NaturallyAnIdiot]

Finsternis

[@averytubestudios]

Are going to talk about how the Tyranitar was called “Big Boy”. That’s just great.

[@justthatoneguy5012]

Who’s Tyranitar? I only know a Pokémon called “Big Boy”

[@AN-in4vt]

Ah yes *BigBoyTube*

[@colonelpescador2866]

He's not a big boy he's a big man

[@rowanheart8122]

I usually name my tyranitar Tina or Rex

[@BisexualG00SE]

My brother’s is called “Big Lad,”

[@thedragonwarrior5861]

Personally, I have always found it weird that Gyrados didn't become dark type over flying. It is an aggressive sea monster that destroys whole towns, and even makes sense with the legend the line is based on. It fits the angry serpent perfectly.

[@TheSpectator7]

Well at least it's mega evolution helped it become well represented.

[@tylercruise7334]

The mega countered the flying type argument nicely. How's he gonna fly now that he's chonky.

[@bdf1006]

I assume a part of the reason they didn't change Gyrados' type was it would break Lance's team design of having all Flying Pokemon. That and I feel Gyrados was and is a very popular Pokemon so making it Dark would turn the hardest gym leader Sabrina into a trivial fight for many players.

[@DrJackShelton]

@@bdf1006 Why do I feel like Im having Flashbacks of Sabrina having a Mon that had Thunderpunch or something?? I know its weird but did she have an alakazam or kadabra that used psychic psyshock calm mind and was it thhunderpunch or was that some Weird Other season cause I know it wasnt thunderpunching pikachu... MAN WHy do I feel like there was some Counter to Flying Types there too? Then Again I Missed Gens 3-7 soooooo...... I watched everything and Saw people play through the games I missed but I FEEL Like oh maybe it was in Lets Go where she had AGGHH Nevermind im trippin man its JUST the Medicines messin with my head probably...... Unless someone else remembers something Like Her or Blue having a Kadabra thunderpunch one of ash's mons weak to it... AGH Headspinning trying to Remember what people used a Alakazam or Kadabra with a Thunderpunch on it as a surprise....... I do remember that the ORIGINAL Anime was a WHOLE Problem where they made her seem like an imaginary Dead girl that Trapped People in Dollhouses or something.... Please tell me THATS Not just drugs making me remember THAT PART!

[@bdf1006]

@@DrJackShelton I don't think Sabrina ever had a mon with Thunderpunch but there was definitely an anime episode where an Alakazam used Focus Punch on Pikachu if that's what you are thinking

[@kculzsinet]

Actually mega sableye was by far the most terrifying for a while due to its unstoppable stall teams

[@cyanrose0712]

God, I hate stall

[@thilton67]

@@cyanrose0712 god I love stall.

[@meticakolli1237]

@@cyanrose0712 turn 69421 You: 💀💀💀 Your opponent: wow this is fun

[@trevorralph9999]

Hey Michael, I noticed at 19:15 you say you’ve never seen Parting Shot used. It’s actually been super impactful in the Series 9 and 10 formats of competitive SwSh, a lot of Incineroars run it (Incineroar was also one of the most widely used mons in the Player’s Cups)

[@shinyeevee37]

That's actually pretty surprising. Mikey has said in the past that he doesn't play much competitive, so that's prob why he didn't know. I'm sure that if he sees this he'll be mildly interested.

[@naturalharmoniagropius4486]

Also a pivot move like U-Turn. Doesn't do damage though, but it weakens the attacking power.

[@discat4483]

also in plain ou

[@MrPenetroso]

Don't forget Z partying shot.

[@just_dylan_official]

Damn okay

[@rayroyzamas4060]

According to this series, it’s canon that Mikey is a Steel/Dark type.

[@paulschultz8011]

He’s electric-grass to me

[@BisharpnearOhio]

Wait, he’s me?

[@gochogames1360]

How?

[@guermegusto]

@@gochogames1360 he is on the thumb of steel and dark type videos

[@TrueTrickster2016]

I'll be the first Dark type please.

[@efraincelin1881]

There is a little error on the gen 3 section. Knock off was actually the reason why hariyama and armaldo were good pokemons in adv singles having your leftovers nullified on the permanent sandstorm was pretty bad

[@jayclearmen411]

this!!! this is facts..leftovers shell bell an bright powder etc we’re problems that needed to be removed from the equation sooner rather than later

[@efraincelin1881]

@@jayclearmen411 no

[@ohdang3833]

​@@efraincelin1881 bruh he was trying to agree with you 😂

[@VaultN95]

When will we get the water type? That will be one heck of a long video, I say.

[@shadowninjagamer1018]

Needs to happen

[@Amethyst_Espeon]

Facts

[@kshitizplays5305]

Normal as well

[@stevenjame1927]

Yep

[@BigBenFranklin]

Gen 3 would have to be split into two videos all on its own.

[@AshenDust_]

19:11 Yea, that’s a super niche move, only being used by about 60% of all doubles teams right now.

[@ccomposed]

@Icecreamcat6 😭

[@MLGProMaster-tu9tz]

This man has no idea what he's talking about smh

[@nibleton_]

Although being more of a niche thing to know, the immunity to prankster dark gained is huge

[@JoshusBarber]

@@MLGProMaster-tu9tz well yeah he said he doesn't know anything about later-gen competitive multiple times

[@AshenDust_]

@@JoshusBarber I feel like if he’s gonna do a video on types, and include how widely used each move is in competitive, he can at least go on Pikalytics and check the first Pokémon that appears for move usage stats

[@ANDYSavedTheDay]

Excited to see the Ice and Normal types: Then vs Now episodes. I think these 2 types had some interesting changes throughout the generations. Ice types used to be the Dragon counter while Normal types had more or less a roller coaster ride.

[@LegendaryCaptain]

I remember normal was legit one of the best types in gen 1 besides psychic I remember Tauros was broken af 😂

[@Nilb3rt_11]

Don't like there are 69 likes

[@taint4647]

mikey: i've never seen parting shot being used. incineroar: *laughs in competitive*

[@dr.stonksakahelth5857]

Gamefreak's decision of giving it fake out and parting shot literally make it the king of vgc

[@taint4647]

and don't forget intimidate

[@dr.stonksakahelth5857]

@@taint4647 oops forgot to put the most important thing in my comment, though he got parting shot in gen 8 that give him more pivoting options

[@taint4647]

he's just a staple of vgc, somehow he is viable in every format

[@RFDN0]

@@taint4647 Intimidate is very powerful abilitywise. A bunch of support options and good bulk.

[@maxl.1432]

Parting shot is actually quite useful competitively! It gives momentum similar to volt switch or u turn, while also making it easier for the Pokémon who’s switching in. Also Mega Tyranitar, while fine, is not often used as base tyranitar with an item is often just as good if not better.

[@urkerab]

I guess it has a niche in weather wars, when you want to reset sandstorm?

[@rock6450]

@@urkerab it can, but normal ttar does the same thing and can maybe provide recovery with leftovers, or gain a power boost with life orb mega ttar doesn't have that option, and it really hurts it imo

[@ethanjones2008]

Shudders at parting shot incineroar

[@dragonslair951167]

Yeah, Parting Shot is actually really good; it's just not that commonly learned. The pokemon that can learn it can make really good use of it. There's nothing that's immune to it unlike Volt Switch, plus it doesn't require a Bug typing and/or a good Attack stat to make a huge impact like U-Turn does. There's a lot of Pokemon that would be busted if they could learn Parting Shot.

[@RFDN0]

@@dragonslair951167 Parting shot is a sound based move so sound proof mons are immune.

[@tarvivor]

I love the quirky fact about Bite being the only move changing from Physical to Special to Physical twice.

[@donovan802]

Gen 1: Darkness never engulfed us. Gen 2: You win this round…

[@epicrgg]

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[@3o5ragib]

And so on,,,,

[@ccomposed]

@@epicrgg eh

[@volcanianthegreat]

@@epicrgg J U N I P E R

[@krankarvolund7771]

I think Mega Sableye was also a big deal in strategy in stall teams, a type of teams who plays very defensively and win by chipping little damages on the opponent while being themselves almost unkillable. A winning but highly unpopular strategy XD

[@molokwuchinonso9249]

Mega Sableye is probably the best Dark mega tbh. It's the only one that got banned to Ubers at some point.

[@Ajoura]

Mega Sableye's power is that not only it has huge defenses, it also has Magic Bounce and you can't just DOT it. But then again, regular Sableye can have Prankster and can throw out some debuffs before your opponent does something valuable.

[@darthrevan5609]

Mega sableye acted more like a wall to stall teams, where they like to set up rocks and toxic whirlwind or roar etc etc, with magic bounce it'd send everything back at the staler and ruing the strategy

[@elYIiLy]

"knock off was complete garbage in generation 3" it just wasn't an offensive weapon then, it was still invaluable utility on mons such as haryama and deoxys defence

[@IgnitedQuils]

Not to mention what FSG said regarding how useful Knock Off was useful for chip damage in sandstorm

[@jayclearmen411]

ok this isn’t true at all…knock off was definitely useful.

[@AhmedHussain-ju6xd]

Parting shot is actually a pretty good move. It used a lot in the lower tiers for safe switches as it lowers the opponents attacking stats

[@joshualeespiny7172]

Incineroar uses it a lot in VGC too

[@ogeid772]

Its used by every Incineroar set (except Assault Vest, for obvious reasons) in VGC, and Incineroar is the most used pokemon in that format

[@loafofbread1891]

Michael: I have never seen parting shot used before besides in metronome battles People who use Incineroar in VGC: ...

[@robertlupa8273]

Me who gets Silvally in Random Battles: ...

[@dip5766]

Obstagoon is also pretty common

[@AshenDust_]

@@dip5766 no it isn’t

[@K3MBR0]

18:00 I'm not necessarily new to this channel, but I love how he actually says *"YAVELTAL"* in an actual informative video like this one. Never lose your pep Mikey. 😂

[@omarmendez0402]

Yvavultal name starts with "Evil".

[@Elpearr]

22:54 _"its like an ugly fairy, it's great"_ Mandjtv 2021

[@itzibad1634]

Ugly fairy. Maybe that what I should nickname my sanity.

[@donovan802]

Devito the Kirlia: *Gets KO’d by Buizel Pursuit when trying to switch* Jaiden: And that’s why I hate love.

[@sherifgamleldin1277]

I remember

[@nergiboi1203]

Yes

[@robertlupa8273]

W-why Devito? Why _that_ name?

[@paulschultz8011]

I got rejected by a girl I didn’t even ask out yesterday, so I relate to this so hard right now

[@shinyeevee37]

@@paulschultz8011 rip

[@dynnolism]

GOOD LORD I HAVE BEEN WATCHING YOU FOR 3 YEARS AND I HAVENT SUBSCRIBED UNTIL THIS MOMENT ?!?!?!?

[@mythergirl5050]

“She is the only Karen that I’d let talk to my manager” this is becoming the new hail yeah of Johto- I love it (edit: SHEEEEESH MIKEY BTW)

[@cardboardcrafter2482]

But the follow-up is 'because my manager is me'.

[@risyanthbalaji805]

@@cardboardcrafter2482 pog

[@doggynolikey]

I thought he was gay

[@bingus5802]

のはしこうなハブパラ。

[@_Iknownothin]

XD

[@politoedboiioiman6967]

Parting shot is actually used a good bit in competitive I’m pretty sure

[@590488]

In doubles it's used on Incineroar all the time. (And Incineroar is the most used doubles pokemon)

[@nibleton_]

Incin’s usage is around 68%, and you ALWAYS run parting shots unless your assault vest in which case you run u-turn. If you don’t run one of those two, your essential throwing.

[@simiabrass4536]

it's also used in single, when you think about obstagoon it's a really important attack of his moveset

[@tanamiller96]

Please get back to this series. I'm loving it so much. I love your content. I discovered your videos on accident a year+ ago and immediately watched basically every video I could. You have really rekindled my love for pokemon I never stopped loving it but hadn't played games in a long time but got inspired after seeing your stuff to replay and even found right at the start of the pandemic some cheap used pokemon games that I had not played yet. (White, Y, and sun, and alpha sapphire) before that the last game I had bought and played was pearl. I have not fully played through sun yet I started and did not like it as it was the first non traditional game. Each week I love to look and see if you have put out a new video and like to on days when I can't sleep or relax replay some of the older ones. I was really enjoying this series. Thank you so much for getting me back into pokemon.

[@anothergamer112]

"I've never used both ghost and dark on the same team" Me with Houndoom and Dusclops in XD: "Cool, cool."

[@LegendaryCaptain]

Gen 5 dark and ghost is so good I'm not joking one team I had in white was Samurott Krookodile Scrafty Chandelure Haxorus Sigyliph Yeah I legit had 2 dark types (though tbh they fulfilled the ground and fighting spots)

[@JhoF79]

Me with sableye in Pokémon sapphire : *sweating nervously*

[@layerex3957]

Me with Weavile, Chandelure and Marshadow: What's a "balance"?

[@thedarknessmagician5234]

If you’ve never played with a Zoroark and a Chandeluer on the same team and had your fox disguise itself as a flaming ghost, then you’re missing out (seriously, Zoroark is only weak to 3 types and chandeluer is resistant or immune to all of them, so you’re appoint would almost never throw a super effective move your way, and Zoroark resists the dark and ghost moves that would normally be super effective against its chandeleur disguise, AND one of the best coverage moves that Zoroark gets is flamethrower, which is a move that wouldn’t be suspicious at all to see a chandeluer using, it really is just such an amazing duo).

[@LegendaryCaptain]

Back to team type balance one platinum playthrough of mine was Infernape Starraptor Gastrodon Gliscor Garchomp Gallade Yeah so there's 2 flying types, 2 fighting teams and literally THREE ground types

[@byrondobbie763]

Best grunty boi bit yet " You cannot steal an entire building" "Watch me" *15 minutes later* "I cannot steal an entire building

[@catalyst539]

Yes

[@Lvl4Henchman]

I'm glad I looked before commenting this. Good work.

[@Fireborn-o4v]

Given that Mike did not continue with the video when grunty boi left it means just sat there pacintly waiting for him

[@brawlgasm56]

Even after all the nerfs and now even umbreon being obliterated in usefulness since it can't learn toxic anymore, it's still my FAVORITE type and pokemon.

[@theicyscythe9135]

parting shot is very prominent on incineroar in the vgc, it hits both of the foes with an intimidate and then uses parting shot to switch out while weakening a pokemon like coalossal or dragapult that usually dynamaxes and then benefits off of being hit with a supereffective move and weakness policy-ing. it would mean that by the time the weakness policy activated, the boosts would just bring it back to neutral.

[@nerdyfalco408]

Your statement is correct except the fact that you're late one or two seasons, since dragapult and especially coalossal aren't really that used anymore

[@veeetox]

Everybody uses Dragapult with clear body, so you can't lower it's stats with intimidate or parting shot

[@ShinyDarkrai2K]

Gotta say, Dark type has always been one of, if not my absolute, favourite pokemon type. It probably makes for a better combo type than a standalone type, but I still love it.

[@SeannyJay]

I miss this series. I hope he brings this back one day!

[@D-S-G.]

"Until they made it where only Darkrai could use it." Correction: "I sawed the accuracy in half"

[@yeon_ster]

Both but the accuracy drop was probably more impactful

[@anafu-sankanashi8933]

And sealed it up with nothing but Darkrai! one day later, after a day in the competitive scene, no weaknesses, it works!

[@grw18]

"I like that there is a fairy type that's not cute or pretty" Mr. Mime: Hello, mikey.

[@omarmendez0402]

But not the same with Mime Jr

[@ladylunaginaofgames40]

Dark-type WAS a great foil for most Psychic types, so imagine my surprise when they incidentally buffed a few psychic types by making them part Fairy. This made some of the best casual psychic-type pokemon both good and bad at the same time. Good because now they can resist to Dark-types. Bad because that means that the Poison-type (a type that Psychics use to brush off easily) generally overpowered as those Psychic pokemon that became part Fairy have lost their resistances/immunities to Poison-types, and all it takes is one Poison-type move, and your Psychic/Fairy type is dead.

[@RabblesTheBinx]

Steel is a better counter for Psychic/Fairy than Poison is, since Psychic resists Poison, which neutralizes the Fairy-type's weakness. Plus, Steel-types resist both STAB types, while most Poison-types are still weak to Psychic.

[@ladylunaginaofgames40]

@@RabblesTheBinx last I check, I can still get super effective damage on a psychic fairy type with a poison move

[@RabblesTheBinx]

Still, Steel's resistance to both STABs and better overall attacking typing makes it a better check, in general. Poison's better than it was, but it's still generally inferior to Steel, overall.

[@JoetadXD]

@Rabbles the Binx Productions5 me when i spread false info on the internet (psychic doesnt resist poision)

[@ravindupadmanath2802]

​@@RabblesTheBinx Psychic does not resist Poison, genius,

[@thenerdbeast7375]

Dark is weak to fighting and bug because in Japanese the dark type translates to Aku meaning evil and both the fighting and bug type have a strong association with superheroes in Japan. From Kamen Rider to Medabots and everything in-between the popularity of bugs among Japanese youth have lead to many beetle and other bug themed heroes and the popular hobby of bug catching even lead to Pokemon's creation.

[@notjohnbruno1522]

Karate Bugmen fighting for justice, as it should be

[@iamdone687]

To give a better and more simple answer If you start throwing punches and kicks in the dark,you can hit whoever is hiding in the dark. For bugs,most bugs can handle dark and stay hidden in it Bam,lol

[@PhibyMcBeth87]

But a few dark typs can lern psychic attacks or fire, or has combo to kill Bugs and piondragi kills fairys 😆😆😆 so, dark is not weak anymore 😏 i just love them all, but a lot from other types too ^^

[@jaretco6423]

When u say Aku, I think of the main villain in Samurai Jack.

[@SoraDonaldGoofy99]

"It is I, Grunty Boi!!" Mikey: "What fresh hell is this?"

[@darknessbobulus]

I'd enjoy "Normal Type: Then vs Now."

[@sonic21blast88]

Man I didn’t know that Michael is a steel dark pokemon, I would of thought he would be normal type

[@charana538]

i thought he would be normal-psychic since he knows a lot about pokemon

[@lennyface8195]

Mightyena was the first shiny I ever caught; I've been transferring him throughout the generations ever since (except for Gen 8, because SS got gutted).

[@frozenbonkchoy4986]

Rip natdex

[@AncientGamerChris]

This is one of my favorite series’ you’ve ever done! Cant wait to see more! 👍👍👍

[@jeffreygao3956]

I’m hoping for Fire after MandjTV returns.

[@Kilo6Charlie]

a favourite standout for me is always Absol, I love their design and "Gimmick" of having a lot of high-crit and steller attack stats with Super Luck. Add in Night Slash, Psycho Cut for coverage, and other high-crit moves, give them one of the like, 3 crit-boosting held items, and you have a critical hit machine that requires basically no setup to use, and is flatly immune to one of the best types in the game. I've had a Super Luck Absol carry me through some otherwise hard fights just with his strong stat, high crit, and pretty good coverage Sure he gets walled by high Defense pokemon and those with Shell/Battle Armour, but the latter are very infrequent and since he needs no setup, Absol is easy to swap out when encountering a physical wall.

[@AbandonedGone]

Mikey: "an ugly fairy" Me a memer: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN

[@kingkaos5518]

"None of the gen 3 dark types were particularly exceptional" Crawdaunt casually ohko'ing pex and ferro at +2 with knock Mega sableye being the most hated mon in singles for like an entire generation. Also getting banned and hey, mightyena has a fairly cool me- oh wait, IT DIDNT GET ONE

[@jayclearmen411]

yeah i had a pretty righteous one in gen 3 poison fang howl body slam shadow ball in gen 6 me first play rough sucker punch giga impact

[@Silverheart575]

If you still have the outfit you should have a team skull grunt interrupt you during the sponsor at some point. You could have grunty boi get jealous thinking you've replaced him or something.

[@ryoto_250]

I have noticed that he is not doing the "Elements" yet. By that I mean he hasn't done electric, water, fire or grass maybe because they're long videos or because everyone knows about these types

[@lucafontana957]

Isnt earth an element?

[@kshitijkatiyar1181]

@@lucafontana957 not in Pokemon

[@ryoto_250]

@@lucafontana957 Yeah he hasn't made a video about rock or ground type either

[@ccomposed]

That’ll be a long video

[@saajiddaya2152]

Is electric an element? Also, are you judging the elements based off of ATLA or naruto?

[@marklisowski6549]

I’m curious to see a Rock then vs now to see if the type has had improvements over the generations, especially with how inaccurate rock move started out as.

[@TheSpectator7]

Mike: "It's nice to have a Fairy Type (Grimmsnarl) that's Ugly instead of being Pretty and Cute." Aromatisse: "*gasps* He thinks I'm pretty!" 😊 Klefki: "huh... So now he thinks I'm cute?!" 🤨

[@scubasteevo7013]

Also Granbull

[@vivianlopez9436]

Snubull: * exists *

[@TheSpectator7]

Snubull and Granbull are like the pug dogs of Pokemon. ugly but in an adorable way, though Granbull looks more badass and Snubull is the cuter one. Also am I the only one who thinks Grimsnarl is Pokemon's Green Goblin. (The Spiderman villain)

[@stohess]

Klefki is pretty cute tho

[@killerquinn64]

C’mon man, Klefki is cute. Klefki is an epic gamer.

[@giorgiodelgrosso9263]

Challenge: Drink everytime he explains why psychic type was overpowered in gen 1

[@popstel2286]

Yay, hydration

[@chiefgitsu]

got enough alcohol

[@yes-mu4gr]

Drink some alcohol

[@robertlupa8273]

Jokes on you, I already drink that much water every day.

[@derpp7130]

We’d be drunk too soon, also I’m a minor.

[@BrandonGarner-tl3js]

I think that MandJTV should make the same kind of video that should include the ice, grass, ground, grass, fire, water, normal, rock, fairy, and flying Pokemon types in future videos.

[@user-gt5dq1lm3q]

My biggest gripe regarding the Dark type was the fact that in the Johto games, despite the fact that none of the Gen I Pokemon were retyped as Dark, most of the Gen II Dark types could not be found in Johto. In Gold and Silver, your only option for STAB Dark-type moves was Umbreon, whose stats were built for bulk. This was because the other Johto Dark types were only obtainable either in Kanto (Route 7 for Houndour, Routes 7, 16, and 18 for Murkrow) or at and around Mt. Silver (Sneasel and Larvitar). This was changed in Crystal so that Sneasel would be obtained in Ice Path. In HGSS, Sneasel was back to being only obtainable around Mt. Silver, while Murkrow could be found in the Johto Safari Zone. However, you couldn’t use Honchkrow in a Johto play-through since the Dusk Stone could only be obtained after getting the National Dex in the post-game.

[@jaretco6423]

Yeah. And the part u mentioned that u couldn't evolved some Gen. 2 or Gen. 1 mons into an Gen. 4 mon kinda makes no sense. Some like Paloswine, Tangela, Lickylicky and others can evolved into an Gen. 4 mon in Johto cause they can learn Ancientpower or other moves that requires to evolved by an Move Tutor.

[@user-gt5dq1lm3q]

@@jaretco6423 Exactly. The only Gen 4 Pokemon that you could obtain in HGSS before beating the league were the ones that evolved via level up with a specific move (Ambipom via Double Hit, Lickilicky via Rollout, and Yanmega, Tangrowth, and Mamoswine via AncientPower). If they needed an item to evolve, like Honchkrow or Misdreavus, it was not available until the post game, and if they needed a location to evolve, like Leafeon or Glaceon, you had to trade them in from the Sinnoh games because the locations didn’t exist at all in HGSS.

[@blizzard7945]

Gotta love how: Jack is a Cynthia simp Mikey is a Karen simp..?

[@robertlupa8273]

Except Jack is way more uncomfortable in that regard. o_o

[@thecriticalghost4626]

Everyone it's a Cinthya simp

[@ccomposed]

I see something here

[@errorbirdesther]

@@thecriticalghost4626 she can step on me anytime

[@jaysaysnay]

@@thecriticalghost4626 but...but...*Dawn*...

[@conornolan5884]

Sabeleye and Spiritomb: I FEAR NOTHING! EXCEPT... *Fairy type*

[@meepswag35]

I honestly think they just couldn't think of a way to not make an "Evil" dark type gym leader. gotta say though, they did a great job with pierre.

[@robertlupa8273]

Piers, not Pierre. None of his names in other languages are Pierre.

[@meepswag35]

@@robertlupa8273 oh sry autocorrect

[@hyperbeast0150]

Which is funny because they have Giovanni as a Gym Leader in Gen 1. If Evil/Dark type was around, it would have been perfect for him.

[@ccomposed]

Lol

[@bulbasaur15]

+001 If only Gamefreak embraced more into the fangame/romhack community instead of trying to shut them down (and yes I'm aware they can do the latter, calm your jets) they would've definitely had some cool creative ideas for Dark-type gyms. Heck they could've sorta taken a page out of Mikey's book here and made it where the evil team are Fairy-type users and the Gym are Dark type users that are constantly at war with the game's evil team. As a means of subverting the audience's perspective of how they look at light and darkness. There are other ideas I have but those would cause the age rating to bump up a couple notches. Also I like how before Marnie took over as Gym Leader, the Dark-Type gym is the only gym to not Gigantamax. I guess it's Gamefreak's weird way of still trying to Dark-Type the de facto stand-alone type.

[@ExcreduS]

I love this series your content is so good and never fails to put a smile on my face

[@sequinmichellefootdoggy622]

Smeargle: hippity hoppity, your signature move is now my property

[@Fina-y3t]

20:35 I prefer the name in German Quälzone ( meaning tormenting zone), and the thought of Eevee tormenting someone amuses and frightens me

[@BeeMajor]

Me: accidentally skips 10 seconds in the video Mikey: Complete Garbage! And yes that was unintentional and yet very funny, love your videos Mikey!

[@TheGamingCamel22]

I love these Then vs Now videos, can't wait for more! I had no idea Beat up existed since Gen 2!

[@jeffreygao3956]

I wanna see Fire next. Pretty, kindhearted, and hospitable and as such the perfect date!

[@AychSkwaird]

Mikey: “A team can only have one mega” Me busting into the Elite Four with my team of Mega Swampert, Mega Manectric, Mega Gardevoir, and Mega Tyranitar in my first OR playthrough: 👁👄👁

[@yumekojabami1326]

That is a jacked team ngl 😭 also how do you have the time to raise a t-tar?

[@arkoprovoshaw5737]

He is talking about smogon

[@veeetox]

And that's true. You can't have more than one mega activated at the same time

[@AychSkwaird]

@@yumekojabami1326 traded one that was already decent level over

[@AychSkwaird]

@@veeetox yeah, but the joke is that Mikey said that “you can only have one mega per team”,which is true for Smogon, not “you can only have one mega activate per battle”

[@TheBrianJ]

"None of these Pokemon ended up being exceptionally impressive Pokemon" How dare you say that Absol is a sweetie

[@Robin280497]

Perhaps from Gen 4 onward, but not really in Gen 3. Cuz, y'know, Physical attacking Dark Type when Dark is Special.

[@TheBrianJ]

@@Robin280497 I'm not talking about competitive stats I'm talking about more important factors like "Adorableness" and "Most likely to demand pets" and "Are they shaped like a friend?" all of which Absol has a 10/10 in.

[@Robin280497]

@@TheBrianJ I guess I should've figured that with "sweetie". :/

[@mizzix]

@A successful failure absol poggers

[@jotaro4734]

@A successful failure absol cool

[@springsar2169]

Please make a video for Grass types. Feels like they've improved a lot through out the years

[@daphenomenalz4100]

10:42 crawdaunt is exceptionally good dude. It hits so hard and has aqua jet to completely ruin your already chipped mons. It's a born sweeper😂

[@IgnitedQuils]

Adaptability + KOFF and Aqua Jet… yep It was pretty oppressive in lower tiers due to that

[@Oscarus4250]

@@IgnitedQuils Don't forget Dragon Dance or Sword Dance

[@daphenomenalz4100]

​@@IgnitedQuils add choice band Also, it's not that low. It has always been UU since it got it's ability. And it can be used in OU too, because nothing can switch into it. Not even slowbro.

[@GoatyBoatyBH414]

Me: Sees Grunty Boi isn't hosting the *DARK* type episode. Also me: "My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined".

[@ArielAnemoiAsuraism]

Copied

[@averytubestudios]

He did get a video on MandJTV Plays! If that counts for anything.

[@GoatyBoatyBH414]

@@ArielAnemoiAsuraism The other guy copied me. Go figure

[@TheHICking]

Maybe he will do poison?

[@LufDem]

@@TheHICking he already did poison

[@maxrichards3881]

Dark is my favorite ever type, great vid, mr Groth.

[@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions]

18:48 I think that Mega Sableye was the most impactful due to it's ability~

[@celestia74]

Yeah. Mega Sableye is Uber in gen 6, while Ttar is OU and Gyarados is actually UUBL.

[@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions]

I also think that he heavily underestimated Crawdaunt's competitive use, the Adaptability ability along with its Water-Dark STAB combo made it a force to be recond with~

[@GravityIsFalling]

None are very impactful in VGC sadly

[@nibleton_]

@@GravityIsFalling mega gyarados won worlds….

[@GravityIsFalling]

@@nibleton_ Pachurisu won worlds too

[@cdoggo3352]

Dark type Urshifu is in Ubers in Gen8 singles, while Water type Urshifu is in OU, which is still respectable IMO.

[@nerdyfalco408]

You mean gen 8?

[@ThomasOwOD]

@@nerdyfalco408 no he meant 6

[@nerdyfalco408]

@@ThomasOwOD gen 1 urshifu was pretty good too though

[@ThomasOwOD]

@@nerdyfalco408 nah it was only good in 6, in gen 1 his move pool was awful, the water urshifu only had like 3 water moves and two of those were relatively weak power. The dark type urshifu didn't have any status moves which was just an awful choice, the only thing they were good for was playthroughs which isn't to good because they're found after the 7th gyn

[@nerdyfalco408]

@@ThomasOwOD the dark urshifu was the only counter to calm mind slowbro though, which gave it a niche

[@Lilaclightning12]

“I’ve never seen parting shot be used outside of metronome battles” Incineroar in Gen 8 has entered the chat

[@KirbyatYT]

“I’m glad there’s finally not a fairy type that’s cute or pretty” *Granbull and Klefki glares menacingly*

[@The_MMS]

That’s one of the reasons I love granbull because it’s not a cute fairy

[@nerdyfalco408]

Klefki?

[@robertlupa8273]

Hax aside, I'd say Klefki is kinda cute, I guess? Maybe?

[@KirbyatYT]

@@robertlupa8273 I think it’s cute too, but I was going off of Mikey’s opinion, since he would disagree.

[@robertlupa8273]

@@KirbyatYT Mikey: However, I DISAGREE!

[@BlindJedi]

I found the most baffling thing to be him saying he hasn’t seen parting shot used. Great move.

[@IAmMissingnoMaster]

He's not all that well-versed in competitive battling, so it's kinda understandable.

[@BlindJedi]

@@IAmMissingnoMaster yeah, it’s just kind of annoying when he’s all pretentious and thinks he’s a genius with certain things in Pokémon, and then doesn’t freaking know what parting shot is.

[@monferno1]

This series usually has thumb nails that are the epitome of “you v the guy she tells you not to worry about”

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

Honestly, in Sword and Shield, Darkest Lariat makes a great coverage moves for Pokémon who struggle with Ghost or Psychic Types, so Snorlax or especially Machamp, and is a great STAB move for stuff like Krookodile and Grimmsnarl.

[@BisharpnearOhio]

Why can’t I learn it but the giant pink bear can D: ?!

[@who6449]

@@BisharpnearOhio Because you have knock off and sucker punch with defiant AND huge attack stat

[@BisharpnearOhio]

@@who6449 but I have low speed and special defense :(, and I don’t get knock off no more

[@discat4483]

*Laughs in zarude*

[@who6449]

@@BisharpnearOhio You still have sucker punch and knock off bro.. And Stealth rocks for utility with focus sash

[@soapdude68.9]

18:06 *he said it, he said the famous line*

[@Purpylon]

Will there be more Then vs Now videos? I want to see one for the Ice type. It's one that was directly nerfed by Steel, then indirectly nerfed by Fairy. Also, as far as i know it's always been the rarest type for Pokémon to have.

[@dma968]

12:54 muck looks like he's about to score a three pointer fadeaway lol😂😂😂

[@angelas19721]

Elektross line: I have no weakness! Moves and ability’s that nullify other ability’s: you sure about that? Zygarde: laughs in thousand arrows)

[@jeffreygao3956]

Electross: Ha! You didn’t get a game of your own Zygarde!

[@pokemonftw3652]

22:51: “ I think it’s cool that there’s a fairy type that’s not cute or pretty” Granbull: “you sayin’ I ain’t tough enough?”

[@akirakiryu1577]

Michael: Parting Shot is a move that I haven't seen being used. Incineroar: am I a joke to you?

[@BisharpnearOhio]

Wait, first Mikey was known as a steel type and now he’s a dark type?! Bruh were you a Bisharp in disguise this whole time?

[@Rekusasu827]

hes your brother

[@Surepeacooler]

i always forget that dark is immune to psychic lol. i'll be fighting some team aqua grunts with my kadabra when they send out a poocheyana and it takes 0 damage

[@quagstar]

I might be wrong, but I remember hearing that the dark type never had a gym leaders because of its Japanese name, which is the "evil type". I guess that gym leaders aren't supposed to be evil so it wouldn't make sense to give them that type. Since Piers is the leader of team yell then it makes sense for him to be a dark type specialist. This doesn't explain why elite 4 members can be dark type specialists though.

[@TheSpectator7]

I was going to point to Karen, but then I remembered she's actually one of the few good Karen's! 🤣

[@tytar2132]

@@TheSpectator7 the manga shows the elite four as evil but they don’t use dark types so I don’t know why

[@layerex3957]

Even then, Piers is not actually evil. Team Yell is just a buncha jokers.

[@alejandro_rodriguez_99]

I love how dark is evil in Japanese, but Absol a pure "evil" Pokemon helps people saying that a catastrophe will occur.

[@frey4194]

I clicked faster than he could say greeting Pokéfans

[@Firemon6000]

Same

[@deltarayquaza4]

So did I

[@Mr.Boss57]

Same here

[@angle1z916]

Damn I was too late

[@Ice-zl8vz]

Me 2

[@SomeoneNr9]

Dark Type after going from all physical to all special and then back to mostly physical: "It's not just a phase! This is who I am!"

[@thisisthewroten]

I love krookidile. It is so underrated. It’s typing is so good.

[@danielknutson4502]

Dark type just has such a huge coolness factor to me. I love my sneaky nasty dark types

[@ephramnelson5567]

22:40 both forms are broken because it can hit even if you protect its insane

[@theboi5584]

19:12: Parting Shot is actually used quite a bit in competitive, but mostly only by Incineroar, so yeah it’s just still kinda obscure.

[@AllenMS828]

In my first playthrough of Silver back in the day, I didn't include a Dark-type Pokemon on my team. Instead, I waited to evolve my Eevee into Espeon (still my favorite Eeveelution) until level 30, when it learned Bite. I gave it the Black Glasses, and it was a surprisingly effective attack, despite the lack of STAB. It being a special move on a special attacker definitely helped!

[@RabblesTheBinx]

but... Umbreon's a defensive Pokémon with terrible attacking stats...

[@AllenMS828]

@@RabblesTheBinx I was talking about Espeon though, not Umbreon. (I'm not sure why I originally posted this, but I assume he asked about our first experience with the Dark type, or something like that.)

[@RabblesTheBinx]

@@AllenMS828 oh, you know what, I just plain misread your comment

[@AllenMS828]

@@RabblesTheBinx LOL, no worries!

[@raphaelectric9751]

Mikey: Like an ugly Fairy, it's amazing! Aromatisse: Finally I get appreciation by Mandjtv! Also Aromatisse: Oh, It's not me :(

[@insecdroid]

A video about the type that’s known as “Evil” type in Japanese? The perfect video for Grunt Boi to appear in.

[@pokemonadventuresanimewhen3023]

Most of Gen 2 and 3 Dark type mons are physical attackers even though all Dark type moves were categorized as special prior to Gen 4... that will never not be weird to me

[@hellothere4892]

You sir have given me a reason to smile, for dark types are my favourite.

[@jazzyj5374]

Mega t tar was only OU due to the fact that T tar was OU, so it would’ve been UUbl most likely, Urshifu dark was so good it got banned to ubers