LEGO Star Wars EMPEROR'S THRONE ROOM Comparison! (75291 vs 75352 | 2020 vs 2023)

[@MandRproductions]

If you could only have one of these sets, which are you taking?

[@johndog457]

2023!

[@williamwise1082]

New One

[@CanadaBricks]

2023, the displayability is much better than the 2020 version

[@WhosBlox]

both because I like sets that have some playability but I like both

[@ZION-THELASTRONIN]

2023

[@Mahan_]

I love the idea of this comparison. Its the same scene and at the same price but it is just for 2 different audiences

[@Spaggot]

inflation probably. Not inflation in general but lego’s version which means increasing the price to a stupid amount just because they can

[@mreggs3731]

there are so many sets that I wanted but never got them

[@johnnybaxter1953]

If I knew this was coming out I never would have bought the 2020 version

[@Kali-8]

​@@johnnybaxter1953 honestly i like the old one better, it looks more complete.

[@mattwillar6896]

The new Palpatine minifigure is kind of confusing, definitely prefer the older one. But the diorama set overall is very nice looking.

[@Zygoatgamer]

The Palatine minfig featured in Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga was my favorite. Honestly I loved all the minifig designs from that game, they weren't too detailed but looked decent and cool

[@GotchaProductions]

What’s more confusing is Ryan’s take. In the diorama review he said verbatim “…this is one of the better Emperor Palpatine minfigures ever. The face prints makes this figure!” But now it seems like he’s flip flopping by preferring the older one.

[@NiqRipple]

@@GotchaProductions I think he meant the older one was better

[@playeronegamervloger9762]

The eyes reflect the fact that Palpatine has no soul

[@leonro]

it looks more like "palpatine" from episode 9, I recall that one not having pupils; maybe lego got them confused?

[@evanreid8935]

I'm loving the current Lego Star Wars diorama era. They've been putting out some gorgeous looking sets, and the dioramas are perfect compliments to a UCS collection.

[@isaarif7]

I agree, I hope we get some prequel era dioramas soon

[@NoahgotLEGO]

I agree. I wish the prices were lower but that could be said about most lego

[@ifacecamp717]

Agreed although they are priced $10 to $20 too much

[@mayhem217]

id love to see a attack of the clones one of the huge fight at the end

[@dannyiel0618]

Imagine what Vader was thinking when Luke got the high ground.

[@CathoolEditz]

"Uhh, not this again" probably

[@ForestElfLego]

“Ah sh** here we go again.”

[@dannyiel0618]

@@CathoolEditz Yup

[@dannyiel0618]

@@ForestElfLego lol

[@Zygoatgamer]

Maybe he was proud of his son for succeeding him by having the higher ground and having followed the path of old Ben Kenobi

[@cameronlewis3860]

Think it would be interesting to see if anyone tried to combine the two

[@fritz404]

The new one is a much better display, but I still prefer the playset.

[@Jedi_Bob_Studios]

I would love to see someone modify the new one so it shows the full scene like the 2020 model(obviously much bigger)

[@soundwaveproductions9510]

The window and throne design on the 2023 throne room is the best out of the two

[@arcturionblade1077]

The back of the window looks like a bit of a mess but it's a neat build when viewed with the Emperor's throne.

[@soundwaveproductions9510]

@@arcturionblade1077 I agree and it’s super movie accurate

[@Zygoatgamer]

While both sets are about the same location, they serve vastly different purposes. The Duel on the Death Star is much more expansive and has more play functions but the Emperor’s throne room has better details and is better for a display. While I do love the design of the New set but I wish it was a bit larger like the Duel On Death Star, and came with the two royal guards. Though more stuff means a higher price and big lego sets Nowadays already cost more than a Kidney and Liver, I couldn't imagine the price of the set if it was upgraded.

[@jasonmaiden5026]

The playset actually looks pretty good. I'd love to combine them into one epic throne room moc!

[@CanadaBricks]

The new throne room could’ve benefited from the 2 royal guards and maybe would’ve made it worth the price, and maybe the shaft Palps gets thrown down

[@Duharshy]

you are the first person to ever say that

[@YANKEESROX100]

I actually prefer no guards, I didn’t like how it obstructed the view of the 2020 set and glad they did not do the same for the 2023 set

[@lukeyoung599]

@FatMan the current price is already $100…

[@hbtdawgz1688]

The guards dont belong, and the shaft is at the bottom of the staircase that leads up to this section the diorama depicts.

[@danielq_4]

@@hbtdawgz1688some people don’t care for accuracy at all lol

[@zacharyhilliker1501]

I’m so glad you included the plinth in the design category, that was on the top of my mind for that

[@MandRproductions]

Plinths are vital to LEGO Star Wars sets

[@Duharshy]

i’m glad that they improved the swoosh ability on the newer one

[@bmcallister1974]

First time seeing this 2020 set. That’s pretty dope with all the playability features

[@_ykarcaneedits_]

I wish they did a rots Dooku vs. Obi Wan and Anakin diorama

[@danielgaloreyear3335]

Me to

[@roxtechs]

20 anniversary set?

[@bearsfan2690]

I normally only watch your non-review/comparison videos (as I typically just buy the sets I think look cool without looking at a review) - this was the first review/comparison video I've watched in a long time and I have to say - you've come A LONG way. This was really well done from an editing standpoint, most impressive.

[@Jordan61112]

The reason Palpatine has no pupils is for when he shoots lightning as when he does his puplils disappear.

[@scottlloyd5324]

Very true nice catch

[@soton__1792]

When does that happen? Got the scene in front of me right now and paused. His pupils are still clearly visible.

[@Jordan61112]

@@soton__1792 if you slow it down when it sparks they disappear for a split second.

[@samueld5418]

@@Jordan61112 are you blind?

[@supfaathebest]

I love the new style of editing/video of these comparisons.

[@RandomThingsInc.]

By the way, I love your channel just wanted to point that out. Also, I’ve actually been wanting you to do this like this video. I have actually been thinking this would be cool if you did good I can’t believe you actually did it. Oh end it is an amazing video. Obviously what would you expect? You are of course just amazing at making these videos.

[@luffyandgokuskits]

0:19 amazing head turn XD

[@andrewhatfield3064]

Once I find the diorama set at a discounted price I'm planning on upgrading. It just looks too good to pass up. So clean

[@jbsargent1396]

Am I the only one that doesn’t like the new Luke Skywalker hair piece? I like the original hair piece… I love that LEGO changed the lightsabers to that foggy texture, instead of the translucent that we used to have!

[@Jadebison28582]

The last 30 seconds of this video was some of the best content i ever seen

[@kaholt67]

Such a fresh vibe to your normal comparison videos ✌🏻 great video

[@MandRproductions]

Glad you liked it!!

[@JP.03]

Wow! Hands down one of your best reviews ever 😄! The new place looks awesome!

[@GrizlyWizard]

This is one of your most interest comparisons. These are two great sets that are both amazing in their own way and it's really hard to say which is better.

[@hbtdawgz1688]

The sizes really aren’t as far off as you might initially think. The throne and window is so much better as a display in the new set, but the old is still a nice playset.

[@BOB-ud6ji]

I love the design for dioramas but the play for the other throne room

[@silentcreatureBS]

The correct answer on which to buy is neither just save your money for the fang fighter vs tie interceptor

[@ZION-THELASTRONIN]

I love your comparison videos!

[@harrymastrogiannis]

I still find it crazy that the summer 2020 wave happened almost 3 years ago now…

[@benthomaar.gaming]

Interesting comparison but it all comes down to what you prefer play-set or display set.for me I like a mix of both.

[@yozzzeh]

when you put them together like that at 5:04, I feel like you could actually remove the throne from the play set, then use the play set as an extension of the throne room diorama. They sorta look like they belong together

[@jaydonmagan4694]

Are you talking about just the thrones, or are you talking about the throne areas? Cause if it’s the throne areas, you’re never going to be able to use the play set as an extension of the diorama. The section the diorama represents is just too big to go along side everything else the play set represents. If it’s just the thrones, then yeah that’s an easy switch.

[@FOOTball519_]

In my opinion this is really just weather you want a display set or a play set for kids so it’s weird comparison but you did a good job comparing the two great video 👍

[@derekl.9202]

the comparisons make sense, and for that reason I totally get the value of the playset, but for my interests, I dont play, I display, and that large window the emperor sits in front of is just so much more impactful for me in the capturing of that scene in the diorama.

[@Regeor]

I’ve noticed that diorama sets and big, 1 to 1 scale MOCs can sometimes look quite barren and plain simply because they’re so accurate. I just prefer prefer a playset that encapsulates and highlights every interesting part of a scene, like how the 2020 version does. Damn, I wish I bought it.

[@benjones1767]

They should maybe sort of combine elements of each set sometime in the future, I like the throne & window better on the new version but I like the imperial guards underneath in the 2020 version

[@BOYGOSGO]

0:21 😂 10/10 edit. Noticed you been doing little memes like this more. Love it bro adds so much flavor

[@joshuabrickman1641]

Like the comparison although I really liked old chart method more than new one. Old one I can see more than new ine something about the colors. Keep up the great work.

[@mentisrelapse]

is there anyway you can combine these sets to be better?

[@theraymunator]

It's a fun story, but back when the original version of the playset came out I was like 12 years old and I really, really wanted it, but never asked my mom for it because of the price. Now I'm 19 and today I came across the diorama set and bought it in a heartbeat

[@lildeep.]

bro got compared diorama and play set so hard💀💀💀

[@Alltimechamp24]

There's that word again! Plynth. Never heard of that word before. You're such a good wordsmith!

[@Kopaka-ep7ug]

4:28 some would say “streets ahead” And if you have to ask, you’re streets behind.

[@hmm.._.mmm.m]

I agree. Beautiful video.

[@Gzilla313]

I'm loving the new comparison format!

[@DarksaberProductionsOfficial]

I like the 2023 version better. The old one way all over the place, and the new one is so much cleaner. I might consider picking it up if I ever see it on shelves for a good price.

[@wyattendicott9978]

I’m getting the 2023 version for May the 4th (along with the Speeder Bike set).

[@GreatesTexasJoe]

Great to see you doing more diverse content! - I'm with you Ryan - I buy them all - but If I had to choose it would be Diorama for the exact same reason as you - Display ability is just better. I'd be interested to see someone expand the diorama into a larger emperor throne room scene with even more detail. I think you have accurately described why LEGO has produced both play sets and display sets... again - great review - Nice editing and fun to watch content.

[@ClickWithBricks]

Thank you for the detailed review! 🙂 Two different sets with two different audiences...So for me personally, I would go for the 2020 set due to the minifigures, size. In the end there is no right or wrong, it's just a matter of personal taste.

[@carstenreinke3115]

both sets have their pros and cons, combine them and it's a great set.😊

[@cliff303e]

I already expanded the width of the 75291 set by 4 studs and made the window larger and deeper. I had planned on trying to make a new window based on a moc, but the peices were not cheap or easy to find. The new set has a perfect window, and i will be trying to combine the new set into the centre platform of the old set and expanding the sides. So for me, a combined set is the only answer. Very happy with the new one! =o)

[@TheBrickBoyo]

I really BADLY wish they released Jabba's Throne Room instead of this diorama. I got the 2020 version and just can't force myself to get excited about this one. If I didn't fully believe in the potential of the diorama collection, I'd easily give this a pass but the collector in me will probably pick it up at some point anyway...

[@jasonschlierman412]

I’d be interested in finding a way to combine the two sets.

[@LegoJourney]

I think this was your best comparison so far

[@___David__]

I have the two throne room play sets, but I'll also give it to the diorama as the best one for display. In fact, I intend to buy it precisely so it can replace the previous throne room set I have next to the UCS Super-Star Destroyer.

[@zakstone9821]

Hands down this is the best review I’ve seen on KZbin of a Lego set. Thank you thank you thank you

[@andreabarbieri4920]

I don’t understand Lego users: why criticize the new ucs x wing and not this horrific diorama in which you have to pay 100€ for 800 pieces

[@robertfowler3234]

I agree with every point you presented. I already own the play set but I’m going to pick up the diorama because it looks so freaking cool! I’m really digging these dioramas but am definitely disappointed by how the Endor diorama looks. One question, I know that you don’t rely on the price per piece for the value of a set but is there value to the price per mini figure count that you look at, let’s say 5.00 per mini figure? 2022 has that 35.00 4+ set that I refuse to buy because that build and price is ridiculous and I can’t see paying 10+ dollars just for mini figs. Anyway, love your videos and your honesty in your opinions about LEGO Star Wars sets.

[@jaywilliams1289]

That window on the new Diorama set is just awesome!! I am very much into displaying my Lego sets so for me it's a clear choice in favor of the Diorama.

[@phillycheese3461]

great video as always, i like when you have clips from the movies too

[@Zygoatgamer]

While the new set has a nice design, it is definitely overpriced. 100 dollars for the other older playset seems much more reasonable because at least you get more minifigs and play valve. The new set is just a small little bit of the final duel area and make it feel incomplete. Lego is going crazy with the pricing of sets Nowadays, paying more than 70 dollars for that set seems too far

[@DaltonLunday2103]

I have a strange bit of luck when it comes to these two sets and finding them for cheap. Back in 2022, I found the 2020 set brand new for $60 at a game exchange and I bought it there. This year I found the 2023 set at walmart on clearance for $40. I basically paid half the price it would to get both sets on release day just by being patient. I love both of them so much and I’m proud to have them in my collection.

[@zacharystaats3602]

Love how the plinth is a part of your reviews now! 😂

[@historybricksbyd]

Amazing video!

[@reanukeaves5629]

You should’ve compared all 3

[@_ykarcaneedits_]

I mean the first 2 is really close

[@MandRproductions]

There’s no point to roping in the 2015 model and the 2002 set… well same thing lol. I’ll make a “short/reel” for the 2002 set comparison though. This vid was specifically these because of how recently the 2020 set was released and then having the same retail price. 👍👍

[@reanukeaves5629]

@@MandRproductions ohh thanks ryan for clearing it up for me big fan by the way this was a good video

[@Trengenator]

I’d say the plinth gives my vote to the diorama set

[@robhall9346]

ROTJ was the Star Wars I watched the most as a kid, so any related sets have an immediate attraction, but I've already got the playset so don't feel I can justify the diorama at full retail price. If there's an opportunity to pick it up at a discount at some point during its run though, I'll absolutely be picking it up.

[@chrisford263]

Looking at them side be side.. I'd be inclined to mash them together and get the ultimate diorama

[@CommDante]

I think I had the playset confused with a remake of the prequel version on first sight, as it looks so similar. Play features/worth def playset ... I do think the diorama makes more of an impact and is more unique, but will wait for a huge sale before I pick it up.

[@Ellie.Weisman]

I feel like the price would be more acceptable if they had two guards but for 100 bucks im going to pass and save for the venator

[@themusicofthedevil4122]

I rally love everything you do! Thank you for the content

[@TheLittleJotunn]

I do have the old play set, but I NEED the new diorama. It is sooo good looking. I just hope my wallet will allow me to get it.

[@AlecFortescue]

That's surprisingly large. Suddenly the price isn't so bad.

[@Moss_piglet13]

I think the reason that the emperor doesn't have pupils is due to the style they've been going with lately. They've done the same with hara and Ashoka and minifigures with black eyes you can't tell if they do. I personally like it better this way. I think it ads to the charm of Lego but I can see why some people may not like it

[@dondoriano]

So you don’t know the fact his eyes rol back when he uses lightning 😅

[@Captain-Bricks]

When’s the Mandalorian fang fighter review coming out

[@carlosdiner729]

I like the newer Sidious minifigure. While the older one is more accurate in having pupils, I think the "pupiless Palpatine" makes him look less human if you know what I mean.

[@jacobday406]

When you said the price per piece adjusted for inflation I really thought you were gonna say the amount of pieces adjusted lol

[@gabesstarwarscollection]

As someone who studied architecture in college I really don’t like that the place it has a door but practically no walls. I also think Palpatine‘s arrest looks really bad because it should have more walls on one side like a section cut and have the other side open sort of like a dollhouse in my opinion…otherwise don’t include a doorway.

[@BOB-ud6ji]

I love the purple on the chair

[@thatsruffdog]

I bought the first one in 2015 and I really loved that set. I bought the newer one about a year ago after it retired. It was just $90 at Walmart. My plan was to combine both of them into a larger diorama. Then rumors of this new one came out and I still haven’t opened the 2021 model. I got a job at LEGO so maybe I’ll save up $150 and buy 3 of these with the discount. Maybe I’ll sell the old one and use that to buy the new one?

[@omeganeoz]

im not the type of person to play with my sets a whole lot, but i do it sometimes for fun. and the diorama is actually kinda nice for play too

[@MrScaryPasta]

My guess is LEGO reused a ROS Palpatine minifigure from an unreleased set. Makes sense they’d recycle minifigs and call it a day. I like the 2020 Palps but I’m also a classic Grey Palps minifig collector too. Not a fan of blank eyes Palps.

[@blueblitz338]

I want to buy one of these but I still don't know which one to buy. Can anyone give me recommendations?👍

[@Jamasaur]

Great video! I am hoping to pick up the new diorama soon and build over on my channel!

[@benobrien7920]

I own the 2020 one, so I won't be getting the new one, but if I had neither and could buy either I would choose the new one.

[@rorytompkins86]

Great review I have the 2020 set already in a display case and was contemplating whether it’s really worth getting the new one for completions sake

[@GarryDumblowski]

If I had to assume, the removal of the pupils would be to keep Palpatine a little bit less scary than he would have been with them. Or maybe they thought he looked more intimidating without them?

[@TRam03900]

One thought I had is that you could use the diorama Palpatine minifig head to get a more accurate reborn Palpatine from epesoide 9.

[@christianmerk6628]

I remember getting the upgrade in 2021 from the 2016/2017 version and that version going into the parts collection. I think I’m gonna get the new one but wait for like my birthday to get it or something. I do really like the play set for its display value with its many more features and the new one is better in that category but not worth me paying for another one already

[@OceanThalasso]

I personally prefer the diorama so much more. I just wish it had more figureds, even ones that aren’t in the scene. Like, Han, Leia, R2, 3PO, I just wanted more figures. I love this set none the less, fantastic and is so much better than the 2020 one. A combination of the 2 would be absolutely amazing!

[@Pifa2270]

I really like these vids and I think the diorama looks way better than the playset but overpriced when compared to it . Also , when do you think the next Star destroyer will come out as I can’t afford the UCS or the 2014 playset

[@JustCallMeKopi]

If I were picking one over the other, would likely go with the diorama set. Mainly because I really like to display my sets. I do already have the 2020 set but I still think I will pick up the diorama to use as a display piece.

[@xSuperFryx]

How many lego figures have pupils? maybe they are trying to make him more consistent with minifig style

[@justprime]

Now you need to make a MOC using both sets!

[@samharker]

I really like the current palpatine figure, i think its a cool update, but I always loved the luke of the grey headed palpatine, despite it not being movie accurate

[@josiaharaki7310]

IMO, the 2023 set should have released this year and had an official Alt-build to recreate that teaser build from 1999.

[@Zygoatgamer]

While I do love the design of the New set but I wish it was a bit larger like the Duel On Death Star, and came with the two royal guards. Though more stuff means a higher price and big lego sets Nowadays already cost more than a Kidney and Liver, I couldn't imagine the price of the set if it was upgraded.