Mang0 Puff vs Hungrybox Falco - Reverse Main Singles: Quarterfinals - Smash Summit 8

C9 Mang0 (Puff) vs Liquid Hbox (Falco) - Singles Reverse Main Singles: Quarterfinal - Smash Summit 8
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[@Ms.Crooks]

Classic melee commentary 45% "back then" conversations 40% random personal story's no one knows 10% of the game 5% talking about sex

[@MeatSlushie0421]

It's the best kind of commentary

[@ThePi314Man]

69 likes Nice

[@lol33380]

the Scar

[@MegaShiney99]

And its sick

[@23mrbee]

I hope they do reverse main tournaments at all future summit tournaments because this was really fun.

[@riziq30]

Maybe

[@56mdk]

Ban axe He is way to busted good

[@calebtaylor4153]

What is this reverse main singles tho?

[@arcaniaheart3570]

@@calebtaylor4153 You use your opponent's main character and your opponent use your main.

[@calebtaylor4153]

@@arcaniaheart3570 ok, that's what I thought

[@AI_Ghostwriter]

"I don't wanna play puff" "No one does" "I could play puff when I was younger becau-..." "I don't even want to play puff." That was actually the cutest shit I've ever heard. What Kings.

[@adinadams8346]

Lmao

[@alexaristud6340]

What time did that happen

[@Spoocecow]

2:00

[@xMrxsunshinex]

Gods*

[@pcdave5605]

HBox with the read

[@Eroil]

Is this the birdbox challenge all the kids were talking about? Nice.

[@mediocreboi]

Im gonna need more people down here seeing this good ass pun.

[@lapislovesgaming8739]

Nice

[@Yun_denn]

Okay. That's actually really fucking funny. lol

[@emmbeesea]

Mang0: 2008 Hbox: 2015 This is actually cool.

[@nirchuy]

Hbox used to have a bird?

[@Tyan0A]

@@nirchuy I mean, he tried.

[@tsean1106]

Christopher Cruz what?

[@joshualara8204]

I thought it was evo 2014

[@yhvhfan]

Yeah it was Evo 2014

[@ariesomega2487]

Mang0 puff and Hbox Falco alternative timeline...

[@blue-xt4rx]

Lars Fischer you mean hungry bird

[@tiltking9645]

HBox did mention one stream a long while back if he didn't pick up Puff, he'd probably have mained Falco The real question is, with the way things ended up, is this the darkest timeline...?

[@Fer-gf8wn]

Tilt King Yes

[@nazukah2861]

@@Fer-gf8wn Well i mean Mango couldve kept playing Puff, M2K wouldve played Puff instead of Sheik, and Plup and Leffen would start playing Puff dittos against HBox

[@danm8004]

@@blue-xt4rx the correct pun is bird box

[@jarroddobben]

14:14 mans said keep playing Falco like melee depended on it

[@whong09]

I love that this is just four old men reminiscing about good times from 10 years ago. Wholesome.

[@Josh_ua]

"Old" lol.

[@whong09]

@@Josh_ua dude we're 30 and we're playing video games.

[@rickwilson3703]

30 isn't old and the average gamer is 34 years old.

[@MeesterTweester]

Rick Wilson Really, 34? Explain

[@rickwilson3703]

@@MeesterTweester There's multiple sources online, but I was actually kinda wrong, the actual age might actually be 35 lol.

[@xm1a1x]

Mango and Hbox are slowly expanding so that one day when they sit together on the sofa their bodies will get stuck and they can play melee together for eternity.

[@DrakodanSRL]

what

[@cmarchand8984]

Life is a cycle

[@JasonALMS2010]

So sweet ;_;

[@coldramentpm1013]

i hope so

[@WolfHunner]

Chillen went from chunky to muscular then back to chunky.

[@RainInTheSummer]

i know dude i just noticed that, he got really fat

[@IsaacPurpleguy]

I don't think he was ever muscular tho tbh

[@kamakazi1212]

@@IsaacPurpleguy peep energems chillin and say that again. His muscles were filled with energems

[@PelipperPiccolo]

The muscles were talking a lot of shit and needed to respect their elders

[@kamakazi1212]

@@PelipperPiccolo But he was the elder. That doesn't make any sense lmao.

[@comettitun8087]

SUMMIT IS SO COOL

[@DannyMeasho999]

yes

[@garydunham335]

I like how after the game is over they show more of the stream

[@plague156]

just to see mango play puff again... they need to reverse main at every future summit!!!

[@salj.5459]

It’s interesting to see Hbox playing other characters because he back airs so much

[@lezzei]

felt like they were actually rooting for hbox, this was so weird lmao

[@marcusispoor]

probably because they don't want puff to win lmaoooo

[@domninin]

People see Puff and something just clicks in their brain and they want to hate the person playing him lmao

[@ThePi314Man]

Genesis was the exception.

[@xtreamdream439]

I like puff but I like falco more

[@il100374]

Tis the character

[@LazyLee]

Match starts at 2:43 Fun starts at 0:00

[@zeddash.6695]

I actually like Hbox’s falco. Yeah, it isn’t that technical, but he has some stuff

[@sersmiles1635]

Could probably beat many viewers still

[@nickclement6274]

It’s still top level. He’s taken games off Amsa and M2k with that falco, and he doesn’t practice it. He’s just talented. If he works at any character he’d be the best

[@Chizypuff]

@@nickclement6274 That's a crazy disrespectful sentiment. Hbox may be the best melee player, but he doesn't play melee the best- that's my boy Axe

[@Cr3zant]

@@Chizypuff he never said he played melee the best, he said if Hbox could grind any character and end up the best, that's a very different statement that definitely doesn't apply to Axe, who's stated multiple times he plays his secondaries like Falco and Marth more and still does worse than Pikachu

[@Themonkeymartin]

@@Cr3zant i know this is a year old but i think that Hbox's playstyle fits puff so much that I don't see him being as good with any other character. Like no way his Fox or Falco would be better than Leffen's or Mang0's, cause they fit their characters better

[@emtymartin]

i just realized hungrybox is the champ and the underdog in the same guy ... bizarre

[@coleparker6355]

He’s the Kid and the GOAT

[@TriopsTrilobite]

Cole Parker That's literally the mang0

[@christiannewcomer2635]

This made me respect Hbox more. I been starting to realize he's always been a good dude and a hard worker, just a few isolated moments (clips) of him pissed me off. Especially the Zain pop off they were talking about lol. I'm really starting to see tho that every chance he gets to really express himself and talk, he comes off good and not arrogant.

[@benthamin]

Everyone’s always hated him man. He’s a genuine good guy. Great work ethic.

[@christiannewcomer2635]

​@@benthamin To be honest, I was an Hbox hater until I actually like investigated and watched his stream and stuff. He's had on camera moments that were not so great. TBFH, when Hbox beat Axe in Genesis 6 grand finals... and then clapped for him and held his hand up in the air like a boxer... I thought "wow this guy is the biggest asshole I've ever seen." But when I actually watched his stream and stuff and he's a good dude just maybe not always great on camera lmao 7/10 on-camera personality +15 resistance to mud-crabs

[@benthamin]

LMAO

[@haggis6163]

Nothing but respect for both these dudes.

[@RamzaBeoulves]

Shoutout to King Dude got me into competitive Melee

[@atrophy5973]

I came for the giggle

[@Doomxeen]

"I was a virgin dude" Seriously the funniest, coolest thing I've ever heard Mango say.

[@khu7379]

honestly it was pretty lame. imagine basing your personality on whether or not you've had sex once...virgin detected

[@Doomxeen]

@@khu7379 Eh, I get it. It's overused by a lot of people. I've never heard Mango say anything like it before and the context here is so fitting to a lot of us, and not in a serious way.

[@ThePi314Man]

@@khu7379 it was a joke. Mango always jokes about him and other smashers being virgins.

[@wieran35000vr]

@@khu7379 man's a father LMAO what are you speaking

[@redwarrior118]

OOOOOH MANGO 2009 THROWBACK

[@xowormsfan1]

would never work in ultimate lmao. dudes have like 5 mains

[@noobiesensei6281]

No this would never work in ultimate because Snake/Olimar dittos zzz

[@tsean1106]

Noobie Sensei tf are you talking about there aren’t that many top level mains in those players lmao

[@themop7437]

@@tsean1106 There are more top level Snakes & Olimars than there are of any other character, including Peach, Wolf, etc.

[@tsean1106]

The Mop depends who we are talking about at the top on snakes I have 3 being ally MVD and salem with another 3 high level being pelica and the other 2 i can’t recall rn and out of all these player I wouldn’t put MVD and ally as the main 2 olimars also covering a similar list of 3 main top players and even less higher level olimars and even less so after the nerfs ultimate is also a game of many many different characters definitely not close to a everyone’s only using these top 8 characters game.

[@themop7437]

@@tsean1106 Use some punctuation, I have no idea what you're even saying. You said MVD and Ally are Olimar players, which I'm sure isn't what you meant. There are at least 3 Olimars who are top 15.

[@jangofett8210]

Oh my god did someone just mention Kings Jigglypuff from back in the day? Makes me feel old. Anyone remember my local hero from school Sean “Forward B” Benner! Tucson! And a personal favorite of mine Phanna as Samus.

[@itsbmeGaming]

Forward was a good Falco back then.

[@jangofett8210]

itsbmeGaming I would have to agree, I played against him.

[@Germexican6f]

1:48 Hbox verbally bairs Mangos joke approach

[@Themonkeymartin]

there is something poetic about 2 long time rivals playing their reverse mains just for some random summit event.

[@bonzokop1233]

ikr, wanted to see Hfox tho

[@Ldevos0]

mango's puff is sick. Unsafe aerials on shield like it's his job and still kicked ass

[@standardsloshy]

Good job for Hbox for actually having some moves

[@Yoyo_Megu]

Mang0 2009 : Last Puff in Genesis 10 years...

[@strawhats100]

So good to see MaNg0's puff again if only just for 1 set

[@Avynders]

11:15 - "He combo-ed Puff?" Yeah, I would be dumbfounded too, my man.

[@davados122]

Chillen looking THICCC

[@TheWarofArt27]

Looking like classic Packers jersey Chillin.

[@Noize_exe]

More like Thiccdude829

[@wowbryanzhao]

Chillin has gotta get back to the gym haha

[@fallenchao]

More like fatass

[@abegee93]

Making my PP thicc too

[@MrCiNiC]

WTF, Hugo. Early 00's MF DOOM, you're loco

[@wntriam]

Haven’t watched the whole thing yet but does axe just win by default?! Who else can play pika lol

[@FarawayBrawlHacks]

Finals are probably him and AMSA

[@SouthrnKoala]

Plup had a decent pika but yeah it was pretty free for Axe

[@OmegaFujin]

I’m mad late, but this man Mango had me rolling at the beginning! Holy shit!

[@sympathy_for_strays]

“sometimes you get laid. sometimes you don’t. that’s life.” - life as surmised by Smash commentators

[@c0bem0n]

what year are we in

[@ariesomega2487]

06

[@tappajaav]

2024 fam

[@soul7168]

Damn he barely used bair in neutral lol and it's Mango so it's probably on purpose lol

[@tenslein8977]

Chillin forward smashing with the hilt was funny af.

[@chrisludwig4729]

HBox Falco actually looks pretty decent. Not tournament decent, but still not bad man

[@Saskaruto16]

He actually beat a player who beat Westballz with his Falco. That's pretty amazing considering he doesn't even have the crazy stuff like the Westballz pressure or optimized combos like they do on their mains at that level. Hbox style is so neutral and read heavy, you can see it in his combo style. I firmly believe if he completely dedicated himself to Falco he could get back into the top 5 with solo Falco if he wanted in like a year of leveling up his Falco just that little bit more. All he needs is some of the more technical stuff.

[@garrettmoore5963]

Saskaruto16 “west balls can beat anyone but anyone can beat westballz”

[@hi3209YT]

The Mang0 puff will never die in my eyes

[@Itsssmatt_]

Mang0 used to be a god with JigglyPuff

[@jadonplox]

he turned it up later in this set its probably better than it used to be

[@Itsssmatt_]

jadonplox I know

[@praetosstuff8230]

Did i travel to an alternate universe?

[@Amaling]

I really hope one day Hbox switches to Falc, like if people find out his Puff thanks to Armada handing out notes to basically every top 20 player. He can obviously do very well with Falco if he puts the time into it

[@itz_Relic]

HBox's Falco is sick!

[@grim_bbx2241]

It got bodied

[@taskerirl]

mang0 puff is so interesting. he plays so aggressive and I love it.

[@fredschultz4457]

Jinx 6:25 11:25 6:31

[@steverettenmaier6793]

Grandma_Warrior the time stamps I didn’t know I needed

[@Ohushi]

Every falco who wants to beat puff needs to watch this.

[@happymonkeyfish]

Sets like this where HBox is playing other characters makes me realize, he isn't just a great Puff player, he is a great MELEE player

[@ericliu5706]

Hbox edge cancel Falco bairs so sick

[@itsbmeGaming]

"You forward smashed my shield 3 times." "I forward smashed like with the hilt, you were right next to me, I was like bitch!" That whole exchange was hilarious yet relatable.

[@2Minihats]

“A lot of puffs don’t use that [rest out of shield] anymore” in contrast not a lot of falcos F - Smash shields

[@Saskaruto16]

Yeah they kind of neglected to point out that Puffs can't use it anymore. They definitely will when presented with the opportunity, but at top level that's never going to happen. Also Hbox has good enough punishes now that he doesn't need to stock trade to kill even if he had the opportunity to rest OOS if he can get something better.

[@2Minihats]

Saskaruto16 yeah I’m happy they atleast went over how Hbox is legitimately more Aggro now and in comparison to other puffs even if he is just spacing back air

[@graythesnail]

chillindude turning chubbydude

[@niceprofile-k6i]

6:20 hbox has done that combo a million times and never gotten that reaction from the couch 👀

[@kyletupper1033]

What a bad take lol. 1. He has gotten that reaction before 2. They also popped off when hbox did some easy (for Mango's falco) shit

[@bonzokop1233]

@@kyletupper1033 yeah

[@Free-4554]

People came to this video to see mang0 puff, nothing else

[@cmarchand8984]

I definitely came here to see hbird

[@Free-4554]

@@cmarchand8984 and that, people also wanna see that

[@InBadTaste11]

holy fuck chillin a big boy now!!

[@JV-zl1ig]

0:34 That right there, is the melee community in a nutshell... and I love it !

[@whatamitalkingabout3]

Where is scar??

[@michaelvandevusse3728]

he's gone because he is raising his kid now I guess. Kind of a bummer tbh because I love his commentary with toph

[@whatamitalkingabout3]

@@michaelvandevusse3728 damn that's kinda lame other people there have kids too

[@SIMIFU]

That was really fun AND it was close. Most other reverse mains sets were either 2-0 or 3-0 blowouts. But this went to last game last stock.

[@TomDeWeerdt1]

Leffen - Spud was great fun as well

[@NOIDEAIWILLJUSTUSEHAILEYIGUESS]

Wow Hbox’s falco is actually pretty good. Prob the first time hes ever busted it out in tourney

[@CrispySunset]

There was one other time, but his opponent was not a top player.

[@alejandronavarro113]

So were many other's that won.

[@SailorWhyachi]

Evo 2014

[@rat4992]

14:15 gotta love Brandon

[@lazarbro]

I'm kind of disappointed that waffles didn't sneak in "that's disrespectful Mang0"

[@Amaling]

Hbox with the lose into existential crisis true combo at the end

[@trevor7225]

Everyone enjoy this we probably won’t see a mango puff ever again

[@jimtroeltsch5998]

I wish Hbox would main falco :) that would be so rad to see his clutchness eek out some legendary falco wins. It may take work at first but he could definitely do it. Maybe after four years straight of number one he'll try it out??

[@evadekiryu5060]

He at one point thought of switching to falco

[@BBB-pe3ip]

Chillin is T H I C C

[@jacobtherobertson]

09 was ten years ago..

[@Songos]

woulda been hysterical if mango did a classic hbox popoff after the match....

[@joeschmoe4376]

Tech chasing with rollout lmao, nice

[@EDoyl]

Man so crazy that they would upload The Mang0 Anthology audiobook for free. Weird video to pair it with though.

[@xvd901]

MANG0 PUFF IS BACK, BRANDON IS ON THE MIC, NO FUCKING WAY.

[@IsaacPurpleguy]

Oh shit, Summit is this weekend!?

[@Athesies]

Wow mango was at 114 to hbox's 27 and brought it back

[@dingo9696]

wow what an insane comeback

[@Sieztt]

wow

[@daxmoney5011]

“In an alternate universe”

[@E-Brightvoid]

The tournament that makes us like Hbox again, I’m in

[@Ldevos0]

Lol

[@iUseDemFrapz]

hbox actually isn't that bad at falco, ik people always trash him for having no good secondaries but i think they over exaggerate tbh, this seems pretty good.

[@kingjacko302]

Its all relative, his Falco would still mess up most people in the scene. Its just compared to how good his results are his other chars are trash. Like his puff can win any tourney but I don’t think his Falco would be able to make top 8 at a major.

[@iUseDemFrapz]

kingjacko302 true but to be fair I don’t think too many people have secondaries that could make top 8 at a major. Only people that come to mind are Plup, Armada, m2k, mango, and possibly leffen or axe.

[@kingjacko302]

@@iUseDemFrapz Ya but the standards are higher for players who are at the top. The stigma is also still there from back in the day where hbox's secondaries were really really bad. Floaty players in general also have trouble with secondaries because of how unique/easy their characters are to execute with compared to spacies. Point is that it's all relative, the expectations people have for the absolute top level players are way different than what people expect from everyone else.

[@Ldevos0]

@@iUseDemFrapz keep in mind, you just listed all of his relevant contemporaries. PP also had good secondaries during his days. So yeah, comparing hbox to people near his level, his secondaries are very poor. Which doesn't have to be a big deal, but it's how it be

[@federicopalacios7439]

He took a game off Leffen in a gf with Ness some months ago (or last year can't remember). So it's not like he's complete trash unless he plays Puff.

[@sobbles6242]

this video should be named hbox does the birdbox chalenge

[@Riversofash]

Great commentary

[@johngroves2876]

Yo when did chillin gain all that weight back? He lost a bunch of weight and was so fit during the time of filming the documentary.

[@benthamin]

I appreciate people finally seeing hbox in a new light after this set. He’s always had a great ethic and a great personality. Just been hated by the community for a long while. Never gotten to know why.

[@JacketsOnFire]

13:08 axe looking like a legit Pokémon trainer

[@tappajaav]

You just know that backpack is full of ultraballs. He switched universes after completing his pokedex and becoming pokemon champion, just to become smash champion as well

[@utjason35]

I cant wait for tomorrow

[@LoganVanderGalien]

hbox is a human thats the video of hbox popping off

[@iodate2649]

HE# WAS SUPPOSED TO WIN WTF -_-

[@bigtoblerone8446]

HELL YES I REMEMBER KING

[@sheedvv4316]

Mang0 was definitely drunk during this tournament

[@hamboneclay3698]

I really wanna hang out with hugs and talk about our opinions and joy takes on wild topics. Lowkey can see where he was coming from tho saying early 2000s is one of the worst eras in rap tho

[@6466032]

Bird box challenge

[@williamreyes5159]

I love the commentators lmao

[@Pan_Z]

7:28 Commentators curse.

[@night1hal1]

How the fuck did they never call Juan's Falco "Birdbox"?

[@Lampaluile]

Rip Chillin

[@FirePuff12]

MANGO PUFF ALSHAIHDJSJS

[@trashman1791]

I saw you freaking in chat lmao

[@FirePuff12]

garbage To me, Mango Puff is the sickest thing in the world, my inspiration!

[@imsammy1343]

Mang0 is funny af

[@anasazilespider5574]

Kernel Sanders entered the chat

[@_stupid8697]

hbox's falco is NICE

[@Shyverin]

YES MANG0 GET ITTTTT

[@tomiathisflex7706]

I love Summit