Jazz Piano for Beginners: Shell Voicings (Lesson 4)

[@AltairPSM7]

Example song is great! Train myself is always boring… but there is a song, It is huge different. Thank you. May the force be with you!

[@MangoldProject]

I have something even better, I have the Schwartz!

[@teresmajor7956]

It's amazing that when I skip the 5th note, I usually find that 5th note playing the melody in jazz standard. This opened a whole new understanding of chords. Thank you very much!

[@stephanesigouin2049]

Again, I've learned some very nice concepts and tricks. It helped a lot that I practiced different chords, prior to this video. All the best to you!

[@nileshshinde16]

Finally, lesson 4 is out. Thankyou so much ❤️

[@MangoldProject]

You're welcome 😊

[@nileshshinde16]

@@MangoldProject Can we request a dedicated video on Sir Oscar Peterson style of playing jazz?

[@Miguel-hu6nr]

These are by far informative and really thorow and explained in simpler terms. Thank u mauch appreciated

[@MangoldProject]

Well, I don't call it "Jazz Piano for Beginners" for nothing! :)

[@sylux6985]

Thank you for your Videos!

[@karengonzales2362]

una joya este video.... thank you!!!!

[@jakubjunga]

Thanks :)

[@grizzlymartin1]

(TYPO) FYI. Working hard at voicing per your 1, 3, 7 and variants. Can’t wait till it’s more natural and faster. But noticed a typo @17:30 here. Chord played is a Bb7 but typed as at B7. Had me for a bit till I counted semi-tones, etc. I don’t have a software that I can play it once and then simply transpose with a quick button on my pc, so it’s two lesson in one for dummies like me who have to take the time to transpose the right hand by ear and count. But it’s a great learning labor of love. Thanks again.

[@MangoldProject]

You are doing the right thing. There is no substitute to sitting down and transposing manually. Transpose buttons are a double edged sword - they're very convenient, but they really harm your progression as a musician (the reason for knowing how to play in all keys is that you often modulate within a song, and it's not realistic to use the transpose button in real time for that).

[@grizzlymartin1]

@@MangoldProject you are a great teacher. Thanks so much.

[@caglar.cakmak]

Last song very nice dont know name , ty

[@fruityloopsquan]

thank u for the great lesson. I still cant transpose and im still learning. mostly what confuses me is how chords are written in different styles and have open voicing and all that other stuff that ive yet to learn. Also, I really want to be able to listen to a song and know exactly what chords and progressions are being played. Do you have any ear training recommendations or some type of practice to learn? Im not tone deaf but I still havent made an association of notes and chord names with their actual sounds specifically.

[@MangoldProject]

We'll get to ear training towards the end of the course. However: 1. Play popular songs you like. Over time you will start seeing chord progressions repeat themselves and learn to identify them by ear, and then see them appear in different scales. 2. Practice all scales and all chords (for scales, major is most important). This is essential - you can't transpose if you can't visualize and easily play the different chords you'll be using! 3. Once we start learning about the so-called "number system" next lesson, this will help you visualize the common threads of different chord progressions.

[@CH-fb4lz]

Is there a secret to using the number system with chord formulas in order to transpose? What do you visualize when you tranpose to another key? Are you thinking chord qualities? Number system? Riffs and intervals between them? I'm really struggling to transpose

[@MangoldProject]

Well the only trick I know of is to take the chord progression, write it using the number system (which, to be honest, we haven't covered yet), and then just know what each number means in each scale. It's rote, brute force memorization, so not really a trick.

[@sethell2]

what software are you using to display the sheet notation and chords? Love your tutorials man

[@MangoldProject]

ChordieApp

[@elgoogernut]

Hello sir. I have a clarification... FMA7 ( 1,3,7) would be F,A and E and FminM7 =F,Ab,E . Please correct me if I am missing something. Appreciate the amazing lesson :)

[@MangoldProject]

Yes. Did I make a mistake somewhere? (Very possible, even with scripts and everything ... )

[@ИванПетров-л5щ1м]

@@MangoldProject 13:25 - two errors in the note names FAC instead of FAE, and FAbC instead of FAbE

[@Griffindor21]

What is the point of doing shell voicing? Can we not just do inversions so that the chord progression are near each other?

[@MangoldProject]

Yes, absolutely! Shell voicings don't have any inherent advantage over the full voicings. However, because they omit the 5th (and sometimes the 1st), they have two possible uses: 1. They sound lighter, which makes it easier to use them in lower registers of the piano compared to full voicings. 2. Once we meet more advanced chords we will often be playing a shell voicing in the left hand (and a combination of tensions in the right hand). It ensures the voicings used don't become too cluttered. It's like a go-to tool for voicing more complex chords.

[@Griffindor21]

@@MangoldProject Ok, you mean it shell voicings don't make the chord sound muddy?

[@MangoldProject]

@@Griffindor21 Precisely.

[@tisheetee]

On that E flat 7b5... when you played the shell chord, it showed a simple Gm. Why the complicated chord name?

[@MangoldProject]

Good question, and I actually want to make a video about that. For now let me return that with a question for you to ponder: Do the notes E G A C imply a C6 or an Am7 chord?

[@tisheetee]

@@MangoldProject both?... right?

[@CH-fb4lz]

The jazz ballad in lesson 4 is it the same as lesson 1, but arranged with different voicings and chord qualities?

[@MangoldProject]

The version in lesson 1 is the "full, advanced" version. Here some simplifications have been made (we will re-complicate things as we go along the course).

[@CH-fb4lz]

@@MangoldProject Thank you for giving everyone the gift of music - you're a jazz legend :)

[@grizzlymartin1]

@12:00 ish…I just used the minor 3 and 7 of the D and likewise for the G. Keeping my antenna up for why/how to add notes beyond that as you did in your example. I suspect added notes may be part of the melody, or leading tones? Learning so much. Doing the exercises takes patience but so worth it.

[@MangoldProject]

Either way is fine. You can add beyond the 3rd & 7th or not, it's really a matter of taste (unless you have altered degrees, which you should add).

[@Mugunga420]

What is the software used to create this video?

[@MangoldProject]

Do you mean the on-screen keyboard? ChordieApp. The editing was done in Camtasia Studio.

[@RoneyGodoy-l2v]

Habla mucho

[@john.282]

Hello, thank you for responding Assaf, the keyboard is fine, as it is, It does not require to be a black background above the keyboard, to help with the eyesight, just not plain glaring white. Basically anything toned down from plain white, there are many examples of this all over the internet. Inverting the colours as you describe does not work for me. Something like the "Velom" colour in Tutorials By Hugo, above the keyboard, (kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5Pck3VveMasrM0), helps greatly in this respect, myself, and many other people with eyesight problems I'm sure would benefit greatly from this, and would be much appreciated. Yours hopefully, John.

[@grizzlymartin1]

@10:40 shades of Pat Metheny/Lyle Mays. Now I have to go find out what song it is that starts in that C chord form.😊 Found it. “Here To Stay.” May be in different key. I’ll see.

[@grizzlymartin1]

Yep! Pat Metheny/Lyle Mays “Here To Stay:” kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYDWaJJsmtybppYfeature=shared

[@grizzlymartin1]

Any tips for on the go transposing of the melody line in the right hand when voicing the 12 alternative cords? Thx

[@MangoldProject]

Yes: get ready to spend time on it :) There are actually no real shortcuts for this. You just do it, for this and for many other songs you encounter, and over time it becomes easier and immediate. The magic of repetition!