MORE GAMEPLAY: Advance Wars 1+2 Re-boot Camp News

[@jakevanderveen9213]

I noticed that they actually changed some of the models for units too, the major one I noticed in this one was they changed the Blue Moon Battle copters to KA-52 which more thematically appropriate since Blue Moon is based on Russia and originally they were using American Bell-407 Helicopters. So that's a nice change, I wonder what other units got new models.

[@thunderjellyfish3680]

I hope their fighter change for some mig or sukhoi

[@rompevuevitos222]

Blue moon is based on Russia? What was green earth based no then?

[@Audifaram]

@@rompevuevitos222 WW2 Germany with Mil Mi-24 Helikopters and A-10s for some reason.

[@drygnfyre]

The Neotanks are now slightly different for each nation.

[@ЭрикХольников]

Also, they have managed to ruin is3s, cause now they look like just some square

[@SageDarkwind]

Mangs: "Why is Blizzard so bad!?" Me: "Because it's not Winter Fury."

[@sumerian88]

We'll see how Winter Flurry looks.

[@etherdragon3326]

And yet look at Squall!!

[@marcrolf7640]

*furry

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

Dw, Winter Fury is gonna be ass, too, knowing this game.

[@PinuyashaRPG]

The fan Kanbei uses (called a Gunbai) is actually how samurai officers communicated orders to troops. You see it a lot in Japanese media depicting samurai. Yu-Gi-Oh players would immediately recognize it appearing in Triple Tactics Talent, Triple Tactics Thrust and I think a few others I'm not remembering at the moment. Seems like depicting themselves issuing orders with a gunbai is more in line with how Japan depicts samurai commanders.

[@MichaelZyon123]

yup, as a yugioh fan I can attest to this, although my first exposure to Gunbai was back when I was reading Naruto weekly.

[@qzecwx]

That doesn't make any sense. Morale Boost is a continuous spell. You can't add it with Thrust.

[@SerpenTyx]

I learned about this from the Total War Shogun 2 intro. It features one rather prominently.

[@MOORE4U2]

Team Fortress 2 also has the Scout Weapon Fan-o-War.

[@Thoast_]

Also for the Yu-gi-oh players, the synchro monster "Karakuri Shogun mdl 00 "burei" "

[@poipoi9816]

The Overview Trailer shows the custom map size going up to at least 17x10 (they didn't mess with the vertical dimensions and it was only up for a couple of seconds), so at least we know that 15x10 won't be the max size.

[@Ergeniz]

17x10 is barely much of an improvement but yeah, hopefully the potential for much larger adjustments are there.

[@Toast_94]

@@Ergeniz Hopefully we won't have to hack the campaign maps to get the larger sizes this time. xD

[@atomanni-k5m]

wasnt it already much bigger in aw2?

[@Kralex121]

I hate to "Uhm... actually" you on this one, but the fan Kanbei is wielding in his power activation is an old japanese military commander's fan, commonly associated with samurai, so it would make a lot of sense for him to swing one around in context of being a commander instead of a sword. I miss the sword, since AW2 Kanbei was probably his best design, but it considering he only had it in 2 I don't read much into it.

[@DEUS_VULT_INFIDEL]

Remake the map they did in the editor and have a match on it, lol.

[@EZDre11]

This

[@Tetragramix]

This

[@PlayableTengu]

Mangs, just checked the gameplay trailer Nintendo put up a few days ago and in the design room section they increase the horizontal size to 17 and it still keeps the “online ok” so I think we’ll just have to wait for release day to see what the biggest maps we can upload are.

[@captaingun]

I believe that is correct

[@gamermanzeake]

I'm getting highly annoyed at all the judging being lodged at this game, and it's not even out. But so many of the same crowd were and still are, finding every possible means to excuse and defend the abomination of FE that is engage.

[@SubLuminary]

Yes I saw that too but I get why he’s being critical of it, I guess we will see on launch day.

[@germanherran4303]

​@@gamermanzeake 😊

[@bluebomber875]

@@gamermanzeake 👆🤓

[@Audifaram]

Regarding online play followers of this channel had to keep in mind that competetive play in advance wars is a niche community and I wouldn't be surprised if there is no fokus on it at all during development. Most people I know who are still talking about Advance Wars and want to buy the re-boot do this with the campaign in mind. Giving you the abillity to play some small maps against a friend probably satisfies 3/4 of the potential costumer base.

[@Ergeniz]

This is true. Going off of the smash community, Nintendo doesn't make considerations for any sort of competitive group tbh.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

Why do well when you can do mediocre. /s There's zero reason for this remake to exist. They made the original worse in a lot of ways and where they tried to improve it they half-assed it.

[@zer0name720]

The devs who designed the blizzard superpower must have been British. They probably see patches of snow on the ground and declare it as extreme weather

[@sasir2013]

that's the thing, it's just the power, not the super

[@lukazfox_lol]

7:16 im going to screenshot that map, if i got the game and everything, im jumping straight to the map design and try to recreate that map

[@sumerian88]

What will you do with the map then.

[@lukazfox_lol]

@@sumerian88 honestly, i dont know, maybe test it out to see how unfair it is?

[@DarkArtistKaiser]

It is snowing, its just hard to tell and isn't a dense snow fall. Also it is confirmed that the map sizes can go to 30 x 20, its just I Think they used a small map to demonstrate the map making part.

[@jacoblewis294]

In the map editor you can see the maker cycle through the player unit teams and black hole troops show there

[@sasir2013]

mangs being so proud of knowing the damage output of units, but not realizing that a mech having 13% against a "tank" was weird There are differences in the models for the medium tank and the tank by the way, I guess you're just not used to them yet, hence the confusion

[@blackdragoncyrus]

Some of the units just look so similar to each other in this remake, it's one of my major gripes.

[@sasir2013]

@@blackdragoncyrus No they don't. Medium tanks and tanks have completely different shapes. Not only do they have different sizes in general, but the cannon is far wider in the medium, and the whole upper section is far smaller on the normal tank, besides having some different details here and there. What other units do you mix up?

[@lordofbeads6198]

About the design room dimentions. Is true that the max we got to see was 17x10. But let's remember that there were arrows for changing size on both dimensions. I can't guess the maximum, but I'm almost 100% sure that the max size will be the same for both sides.

[@MisterVercetti]

I can see it now: "Sir! Nobody's playing our online mode! They're all on this thing called 'Advance Wars by Web', which is apparently better in every conceivable way!" "Really, now? Well, it won't be for much longer. Gentlemen, ready the Cease & Desist!"

[@headcrab4]

*Softly* Don't...

[@Klokinator]

"That game was our last hope!" "No... there is another..." *Gestures to the secret Mangs AWBW project*

[@kentmichaelgalang686]

the thing i learned about the nintendo c&d stuff is that nintendo can actually lose when you do decide to fight them in court, but if they do, they will lose a lot just to bankrupt you. probably out of spite hopefully i'm not too far off but that's what i remember

[@SonicFanDU]

I doubt AWBW will cease, Pokémon Showdown would have been gone long time ago but now still up.

[@Tetragramix]

Nintendo already knows about AWBW. The damn site is like 20 years old ffs.

[@EB-cz4te]

Maybe Olaf's super power will have more intensive snow fall.

[@menhirmike]

6:55 Future episode of "Playing Terrible Maps with Ephraim225"?

[@oof776]

This new engage dlc looking based.

[@GDKsan]

It's mission 4 because I suppose field training is condensed in the first 3 missions

[@viewtifuljoe99]

The torture of watching that map being built was too funny.

[@Ionenkanone1]

To be honest I mainly play Advance Wars for me I am not really condifent enought for online play. So its perfect for me

[@thebrazillianguytm2186]

1:00 I think that it is mission 4 because it takes the tutorial as cannon? that's my guess

[@Hone_mor2525]

Alternative title: "Norwegian man spends ten minutes complaining about how Olaf's blizzard isn't snowy enough."

[@Funny-ky3tw]

So I thinking the same, But why no one mention that is under name "Online mode" has some information which say's "Play online and battle your friends anywhere!". In my understaning it look's like "Play online" = play with random people, "battle your friends anywhere!" = play online with your friends. Othervise if there won't be a multiplayer, I woul'd call say something like "Play online against your friends anywhere!" or so.

[@pierre-andrelecomte9384]

6:00 actually it's 10x15 7:02 the "online ok" appear in blue as you say it in the middle above with a "play ok" in red

[@FriendlyFireFox]

From looking at various previews, it seems that the Tank Corp tutorial is now mission 1, and the Copter tutorial is mission 2. 3, I think, is the fog map.

[@luther0013]

Manga missed the fact that you can put Black Hole units down in the map editor now.

[@hx9]

Original names of Drake's powers in Japanese advance wars: 1 Star - ジャイアントウェーブ - Giant Wave (For Reference, Tsunami in Japanese is 津波 or ツナミ) 2 Star - ジャイアントストーム - Giant Storm (For Reference, Typhoon in Japanese is 台風 or タイフーン) So in the original translation, it looks like they went from English Loan words to Japanese Loan words. I find that pretty interesting. I think Squall => Typhoon makes a hell of a lot more sense if we think of how most powers are escalations. Is a Typhoon really an escalation of a Tsunami? Do we have confirmation about this being an issue of offending people because based on just the videos and original names of the abilities in Japanese, it really doesn't seem that way to me.

[@TheHeavieKiwie]

It keeps mind boggling me of how they barely gave any focus to the multiplayer aspect of this game. This is a community that naturally became competitive over the course of time as far as I know. It's just so surprising how they gave such ignorance to the key potential of this game.

[@yardship]

It reminds of how someone asked Pokémon executives about nuzlockes, this super popular fan created mode, and the Pokémon executive had no idea

[@falserevenant354]

Thing is the 'competitive scene' is still probably tiny compared to the people just wanting to play the campaign. And in complete personal opinion I'm very glad, i hate game remakes that lean super hard into "oh th-the competitive players!!!"

[@Ergeniz]

@@falserevenant354 Its not a question of size. Look at the Smash community. Nintendo doesn't care for that sort of mindset.

[@TheHeavieKiwie]

@@yardship Man they have no connection with the players at all do they?

[@TheHeavieKiwie]

@@falserevenant354 However, as far as I have known myself, majority of the community's currently ongoing content revolves mostly around competitive play in Advance Wars. I do very well believe knowing one's own playerbase is a very important aspect when it comes to the game's development.

[@Dru_Stephan]

There is snow falling, but it's very faint. Also, the "partial voice acting" is called a "bark." The more you know, right?

[@mccloaker]

Manga is slowly turning into Kaiser Vlad from Battalion Wars. Just needs the cool stache.

[@Aleph3575]

0:33 I already approve of this more rock sounding version of Andy's theme

[@Gatitasecsii]

Dont you mean less rock sounding? Sounds like techno or whatever. Like they replaced all guitars with synths.

[@Ergeniz]

@@Gatitasecsii Didn't the gameboy advance OST uses synths to begin with?

[@theoutlander1411]

I don't know if I think it will do well in terms of a stand alone game, but it does look like a game that would be fun to watch someone do a Let's Play of. The graphics are kind of weird (the 3d people) but the colours are bright, the CO designs ranging from really good to half-decent, the voice additions, activations looking cool and even the expressions when a unit gets attacked (Which were missing in AW2 but they added in for this game!). It's certainly something that would look good to watch a campaign playthrough of.

[@theoutlander1411]

Oh yeah not to mention the music and its variations

[@Ephraim225]

7:05 Oh SHIT you can select BH units?!

[@gicrueldad9520]

I mean don't think of this as AW 1, but rather a remaster of AW 2 with the campaign of the first one added as a bonus, you could select Black Hole in 2 already since now it was a proper nation.

[@X2011racer]

So, any possible games on IGN's "mess" of a map?

[@ptterz]

Lmao you cannot even counterattack your opponent's ships.

[@MrPsychopacman]

It's hard as hell to see but there is actually a snow effect going on. U can see little wind blown wisps of snow.

[@videosverigenu4621]

Reboot Camp, Wargroove 2, BotW 2.. 2023 looking good gamewise

[@sinistarman]

someone correct me if I'm wrong. Is Nell voiced by Cristina Vee?

[@tobertpohlmann]

I agree, when they changed 'Tsunami' to 'Squall' , they could have renamed 'Blizzard' to 'Norway in May', too.

[@solidskullz5736]

So far it looks nice. I like how the music sounds and how it changes when you engage an enemy. Nell’s lucky star animation looked good too

[@dreadkalibur1613]

Yeah the music changed during the Super Power!

[@ReggieGiygas]

I personally think that Blizzard looks fine. It didn’t look spectacular in the original games, it’s not Winter Fury after all. And the falling snow IS still here, some snowflakes can be seen flying around the desk if you take a better look.

[@sumerian88]

The activation is flawed in the sense that you dont get a blinding flash of snow prior to seeing the snow arrive. And you dont ''hear'' the snow coming with that blinding flash. Here it's just : ''Bam, here's some snow''.

[@GreatRaijin]

Do you know what a blizzard looks like in real life? Lol no it's not fine, it should have looked similiar to drake's squall

[@ReggieGiygas]

@@GreatRaijinI have seen a blizzard a lot of times but we are talking about a video game where snow comes out of nowhere when Olaf wants it to appear. Drake’s Squall is a strong global damage power that effects all the units, while Blizzard in this game is just “it’s snowing now” kind of power. It’s Winter Fury that should look like both Drake’s powers, not Blizzard.

[@ReggieGiygas]

@@sumerian88we can see and hear the snow during the “announcement“ part of power’s activation animation. I like it that way, but I can understand if people wanted that short white flash from the originals.

[@Hilipinapixili]

Do we know if SCOPs have the same animations as COPs?

[@GreatRaijin]

That nell CO power theme remix was too good 👌🏻

[@michael_betts]

Im pretty sure mission 1 became mission 4 because they removed field training and took 3 field training missions as mission 1-3 of the advance wars 1 campaign. I had got that impression before and this confirms it.

[@ElAsombrosoPachus]

I guess it is mission 4 since it is also counting the "move one soldier against another single soldier" scenario a mission as well.

[@StellarJustinJelly]

"Throughout Orange Star I was known as..." changed to "I am known throughout the Orange Star Army as..." Are they retconning out the fact that Olaf was formerly in Orange Star to make it fit better with AW2?

[@Hyperlingualism]

I think there's a problem with readability with the new graphics, especially with the units designs. You even misread a normal tank as a medium tank here. The original graphics were very good at visually distinguishing each unit so you can easily read at a glance the map even if it has 100-200 units on it. It's a very important and under-rated aspect of design for strategy games. I think you can pull it off with 3D graphics, but I think this game definitely doesn't so far.

[@Mangs1337]

I agree. It's a huge issue.

[@Armedus]

Agreed. They should have opted for cel shading to give each unit a distinct outline. As it is now, the details meld into the model, giving it a homogeneous look.

[@21Kaiser_]

In my opinion is a very big problem. I hate so much AW days of ruin for this reason. I hope there will be a possibility to change something in graphic options.

[@falserevenant354]

Am i the only person with zero issues with this? it took me one or two times seeing both on a map to get it down but now i got it and can tell from a glance.

[@Hyperlingualism]

@@falserevenant354 I'm sure I'll adapt to it too, but I think when we have more than trailers and there are more units on screen that it's going to matter more. I'm sure most players will get used to it, but I don't think it'll be as fast to read as the original.

[@Peter-wj2hz]

I wish it were fully voiced.

[@henke37]

There is falling snow. I could spot at least two pixels of snow particles!

[@tetsedah]

Seems that allot of people seem to hate on the Reboot Camp. And honestly, I kinda understand. There is a big BIG following online with AWBW, and with the lackluster online features, it seems that allot of people will hold off on buying it. I guess that most buyers of the game now will be people like me, people that like the singleplayer aspect of the game. Between the two campaigns and a warroom, there is still allot of good gameplay there. I am still as hyped as I was in the beginning. It is sad to see that I might be in the minority now

[@sasir2013]

I honestly think mangs is wrong in a lot of his assumptions about online play. Specially the "Oh no, they said you can play with a friend, you cannot play with random people", when they say that line in a lot of trailers in games that focus on playing with random people like splatoon He's also wrong about the map size, since you can see in one of the trailers an increased size map getting the online ok

[@tetsedah]

@@sasir2013 For what its worth, i think you might be right. But in my mind, even if thats not the case, there is still so much to get out of this remake. I for one dont dislike the graphics, and the fact that we can play 2 campaigns and a great warroom, to me, is still the height of gameplay. I just hope we can show Nintendo and the devs that remaking thebgames was a good idea, so that the franchise might get a restart

[@Vaerlayn]

@@sasir2013 We can definitely hope that he is wrong, but Nintendo failing miserably to make worthwhile online services would be nothing new. I don't even intend to buy this (no Switch, so no point), but I wouldn't hold my breath on something being done correctly. Edit added note- I want to see this game do well because, well, I *want* more Advance Wars, but I am just not sure if what is on offer here will really sell the community the games have on it.

[@Quincy_Morris]

I like the buff to APCs by making them look like McDonald’s happy meal boxes

[@arcanerite7428]

Different map sizes in custom map mode was already confirmed in some of the gamplay out right now

[@MightyGazelle1]

No, 20x15 is the biggest for online. Or 300 squares. So what we see here is half the max size

[@Did_U_Know..]

10:17 Yeah I also think that this game will tank… Heh heh heh

[@Hotarg]

6:05 Really channeling Gordon Ramsay here.

[@R.T.and.J]

Squall makes loads more sense than "Tsunami"

[@korhol2065]

This gameplay is pretty hard to watch, I think in earlier trailers of the game, the second mission where you fight grit the first time, the person decided to build a missiles, on a map where there are no air units for either side

[@carloseiroariera7793]

Sekiro exposed all the "videogames media" skills, so no surprise here.

[@LocalJanitor6]

I wonder if they will update the game as well

[@CallofDutyBlackOps28]

honestly if wayforward is done with everything singleplayer; etc. i'd love for someone who actually loves mutliplayer to be given command of that. as much as i love WayForward, Little miffed they don't care about mutliplayer; and this comes from someone who likes singleplayer games just as much.

[@exonigiriman]

I like the animation of the new CEO power activations, but feel like the voice lines should have more "Boom". I believe the game is gonna play great, but It's going to have these little nacks that bother you.

[@Ergeniz]

I hope they have a choice for JAP VAs. They seem overall superior at the 'exclamation' style of things.

[@Matthew_and_Ami]

@mangs preload is available in case you didnt already know.

[@RollingBobbyJones]

I like how they are all fighting on a wooden table it really is just a game

[@Ergeniz]

Its not Advance Wars. Its Baby Wars.

[@Tetragramix]

There are many games the feature a wooden table like map style though. The grand strategy game, Victoria 3, literally zooms out into just a paper map on a desk, but the game itself simulates the entire world.

[@RollingBobbyJones]

@@Tetragramix the whole thing about Advance wars thats its story treats itself as a real war. You can see how having the game present itself as such with a wooden table ruins the story completely

[@DoktorVicTim]

Music also seems ot change when you go into the battle screen. Adds a few marching beats to the CO theme. Though I agree that the Snow looks downgraded. It feels like Olaf just painted the field. And of course they play bad. Gaming journalists, amirite?

[@Zenha3021]

We'll be able to play as Black Hole in VS mode probably cuz we can see BH troops in the map editor :D that's a good thing!

[@yanami1241]

it seems you can set black hole units in the editor which is cool

[@skymario1012]

Why doesn't blizzard have proper animation. Every other co power has animations, but blizzard doesn't, it just turns the greens into whites and that's it. Meanwhile tsunami has the camera pulled back, and has a rain storm, before returning to normal. Why doesn't blizzard have that.

[@ShadowDariusEX]

I can see different of Tank and M.Tank in battlefield map just by look at their turret and cannon barrel. M.Tank have bigger turret and barrel

[@carloseiroariera7793]

-IGN journalist: what's a airport again?"

[@fauxnoob4157]

But no Sturm animation? Come on IGN what's wrong? Couldn't clear the game enough to get to him?

[@VanguardCommanderAC]

00:33 And like that they already lost it's like they dont know who they are playing against. You get a like if ya know the reference.

[@Toast_94]

I believe by mission 4, they may be including the tutorial missions.

[@rockowlgamer631]

While the slightly different music during CO power is nice, I like the original that was in Advance Wars 2 though they were showing AW 1 so maybe it stays the same for 2

[@theoutlander1411]

The Black Hole one will certainly be missed

[@garra123454]

I cant wait for next week im going to play the game like crazy

[@aganaom1712]

trailer battle: * doesn't get an s rank * everyone: "pathetic"

[@NoobLord219]

Mangs sleep schedule must be so wacky whenever gameplay come out

[@tubey84]

"This looks like Norway in May, it's not going to slow anything down!" ... how to tell me you're not British without saying you're not British hahaha

[@MaikNL]

I pray this game does well enough for them to make an advance wars 3

[@falserevenant354]

would technicly be an Advance Wars 4 - 5 depending on your stance of days of ruin, but Dual Strike was 3.

[@M30W3R]

Adding onto the older list I had on the other video: The good: -Bridge tiles finally look like actual bridges -Black Hole Infantry look much more like an army and less like aliens with pacifiers, in general their units look like a high tech invasion force, which is what they were supposed to rather than toys -Units jumping when selected and flashing red when heavily injured are great visual cues -Campaign maps seem untouched for the most part -Music is alright, though it sounds more like remixes of the DS game than the OG, some themes are much better than the original like the AW1 Victory theme -Animations for the COs is very fluid and goes from okay to really good -Voice acting is appropriate and unintrusive, I would have probably given a different characterization but they don't sound too bad -Units on the map have been overhauled so you can tell what is what instead of the way it originally showed the actual model on the field -Turn reset and frameskip buttons, finally the Switch can do what emulators could twenty years ago, I'm so proud of how far they've gone, though I do hope that the reset turn is disabled in Fog -References to the original boxes art and backdrops are really nice -Battle animations are fluid and look a bit more interesting than the OG where you only get one loop per unit -Scores seem to be a bit more lenient than in the original, which I find it good since AW1 was really weird with its scoring system, I wish they kept War Room unchanged if the AI stays the same -Removing the self-insert was the right call, it really added nothing to the story -Didn't think about that at first but yeah not seeing units being hit by Typhoon/Squall is actually an improvement The bad: -Most redesigns are fine, but some are straight up ugly (Drake, Grit, Hawke in primis) -All units look terrible, especially Yellow Comet's stupid pineapple hats to avoid offending the poor Chinese players -Golden Comet revisionism out the wazoo -Weather effects look awful -The Advance Wars 1 tutorial was one of the best in gaming, it's really disappointing seeing it gone even though it's understandable as there's no longer the self-insert -Design Maps is gonna be dead in less than a week -Online play is gonna be deader than disco in less than a month, probably will take down AWBW with it knowing Nu-tendo's lawyer department -The tileset looks ugly as sin, cities and mountains are the worst offenders by far -The sound effects are either too loud (the talking beep is especially awful) or risible (pop-corn tier explosions when an air unit goes down, even the ones used in-battle are meh) -In-battle OST is impossible to listen to due to military drums drowning out all the other sounds -Bad visual cues when no-animations are selected for the battles -None of the multiplayer maps shown take into account First Turn Advantage, nor are they likely to let you ban certain COs -Looks like there's somehow some lag when ending a turn, probably to let the AI think, it's hard to tell if it's just the video editing doing its thing or in-game footage -The board game aesthetic is just ugly, reminds me of the worst parts of Wii Party -I really don't get why they bothered making units multicultural in battle but not on the field, should have been either one or the other imo -Some maps didn't take into account the orientation of the units, like the Blue Moon vs. Black Hole ones having units face opposite of each other -Online seems to be friends only, so no tournament or leaderboards will be implemented, which is just sad in 2023 -It's still inconceivable to me that of all the features they neglected to add, the actual damage values (minimum and maximum damage possible) is still missing Overall, it's a meh/10. Will probably check out a few videos when it's out and get it when it's dirt cheap. Not like you're gonna be able to do much with other people. And by the way, do not throw around the "But if I support daddy Nintendo this time (more like mommy Wayforward but I don't put the blame on them), they are sure to reward me with an actually new/good product next time!" line of defense, you don't need to act like Nintendo's attorneys. Buying this game won't lead to better games, it will only lead to games of equal quality or more remakes. If you want that to happen, sure, go ahead, vote with your wallet. If you're expecting Advance Wars 5 plus all the good stuff that you'd expect from a newer and better game, just go support modders like Kartal or Ephraim225 or the people at AWBW or Mangs and his team making the new AWBW clone, or Tiny Wars, or the Dual Strike modding community oor the Custom Wars devs or any of the spin off projects. Even Wargroove and Tiny Metal are much better uses of your money and time if you wish to send a message to a developer. Keep in mind that I have nothing against anyone who wants to buy this game or the people who worked on it, I'm sure everyone has their reasons to do what they want, but just like with other bad products in the past, this isn't for the fans.

[@jenro7]

I would like to rule out a lot of the bad because it is Advance Wars and it has a special place in my childhood. And Wargroove looked way prettier but it will be "deader" than this will ever be

[@M30W3R]

@@jenro7 Pardon me for saying this but you shouldn't let your childhood memories coax you into buying mediocre products, it will just convince execs that they can cut corners and revision as they please. And Wargroove's issue was and is that people just really wanted Advance Wars 5, they couldn't have it back then which led to its modest success, now that they can sort of have it there is little incentive in getting the new one.

[@smexykins3065]

@@M30W3R or we buy it because we may never get another game if this sells like shit maybe? idk man, seems like they're testing the waters to give us another game and i would pay double if that were the case

[@Ergeniz]

@@smexykins3065 This is pretty degenerate mindset. Buying subpar products only tells companies that releasing subpar products is acceptable. Nintendo did not need to 'test waters' with other IPs like Kirby and DK to simply release new games, so this is a completely unfounded assumption on your part.

[@Ergeniz]

@@M30W3R Precisely. If anything love for a series should make fans more discerning and critical of quality, not less. Frankly, I don't see any reason yet to take this version over the current one we already have, which should be one of the foremost reasons for considering a reboot.

[@BlackTempleGaurdian]

"Blizzard"? More like "Light Frost".

[@mghegotagun]

Nell's power theme is very 'Wayfoward'.

[@voodooopaque6357]

I really hope I can make bigger maps, I really loved making 96x96 sized maps on Wargroove, it shouldn’t be that hard to add more tiles

[@doesntmatter6736]

The AI needs to be as dumb as the original in order to maintain the scoring motivation... One couldn't perfect S rank Hard Campaign Rivals with against a decent AI.

[@sasir2013]

and it's a game mainly marketed at children after all. You cannot make an introduction to strategy games with a devastating AI

[@doesntmatter6736]

@@sasir2013 So maybe the happy medium is an option for difficult AI ... something else for the sequel wish list in addition to robust multiplayer.

[@sasir2013]

@@doesntmatter6736 I mean, we have the advance campaign. Sure, it doesn't improve the AI, but it is more challenging

[@doesntmatter6736]

@@sasir2013 and we have Mangs and the rest of the Advance Wars community... I think the dream is to provide a seamless experience from basic training to e-sport

[@sasir2013]

@@doesntmatter6736 To be honest, I don't think most people are interested in advance wars as a Esport Don't get me wrong, I do watch the grandmaster's tournaments from time to time, I'm speaking from the perspective of the general public and the developers After all, most people see it as a simple and fun strategy game, and you can tell the developers have never been that interested in a balanced multiplayer

[@Zersetzor]

6:36 Oh, so now it matters!

[@helorion9476]

Mangs there’s the tiniest snow drop, 😅

[@Riclamin_]

I will say that I liked the pixel style versions of the original better than the new models, but I don't hate them either.

[@itranscendencei7964]

Olaf's Blizzard activation sounds he is about to go Christmas caroling with the bells in the background. Lol Definitely not fitting for Olaf.

[@dewottgaming1507]

well, you have to consider that in the original japanese version he looked a lot more like santa claus with white beard and everything and his character was clearly a homage to santa, so the christmas bells aren't too far off.

[@PuppitCrimson]

So mangs I know that this is a advance wars video but are you gonna play fell xenolog on KZbin?

[@SonicFanDU]

Loved the new remix music, looking forward to listening to all of them. I also liked how the Neotanks looked slightly different each nation.

[@WillieDangerously]

I hate how much I agree with you. Id even go one step further and say I've got VERY mixed feelings about the character art, they're a little TOO stylized for my taste, some just look like block heads with smirks on them. Frankly I'm torn because throwing money on this AW reboot may be the only way for the franchise to make it past this release and continue releasing more games, but on the other hand fml there really seems hardly any benifite to this game for the price. Advance Wars by Web is everything I'd want and more, but at the same time (assuming it didnt have billions of dollars in franchise money involved) Pokemon would never make new games if people only played Showdown and left the actual games. Do I be a good fanboy and vote with my wallet to keep the franchise alive, or be a moral fanboy and elect not to purchase if this is not the quality of games I want going forward? Because that is also a factor too, if this game were to sell well would they just not make more AW games exactly like this and consider it satisfactory to the fans?

[@Ergeniz]

The thing is though, Nell has bigger boobs. So, yeah.

[@redcavalier6492]

Don't buy it. Seriously, you shouldn't force yourself to buy something you hate in the off-chance that maybe enough people buy it. Just hope others will buy it.

[@penetrationskommentar877]

I have AW2 and this is the same game with, imo, better graphics. There is no point for me to pay 60€.

[@Tetragramix]

Maybe one day Advance Wars can be just like Pokemon; the quality keeps going down while profits go up.

[@CharcoalTheCaracal]

Ooo what we got here. I think this is mission 4 for after the first 3 tutorial missions?

[@Voidling242]

Tank opps; Copter tactics; and probably fog / new map will likely be the three field training missions

[@ptterz]

Kinda relieved that Nintendo postponed this game and thus cancelled my preorder. There's vast amount of knowledge in the community yet they decided to repeat all the original mistakes and add into it with bad graphics and inexcusable online functionality. Does Nintendo really hate this game so much they want to beat it again?

[@21Kaiser_]

6:43 map is not symmetrical because of shoal. #ShoalGate.

[@hadoukenfighter]

you can see snowing when Olaf's power is active if you look at the road titles you can see white dots coming down, but its still really weak, I'm hoping his Winter Fury actually looks good.

[@terryliliana]

As long at it sells at least one million, there is hope. For the sake of the franchise, we may have to make a compromise. Also you can def 100% make competitive maps with smaller size, not everything needs to be AWBW style.

[@Fion355]

If they stay with the shown map size, no. You cannot make competetive maps. A freaking Flight-Unit can cross it in nearly ONE turn......Maybe even only one turn.

[@sasir2013]

​@@Fion355 you can increase the size to begin with

[@Tetragramix]

I just want to hear the music at this point lol

[@akichan4168]

Did they nail Nell or did they not? Hmmm.

[@DemonFox369]

The Tanks look like Mediums

[@varodleus]

It looks like Advance wars by web will keep monopoly on competetive online play and tournaments.

[@Ergeniz]

Until Nintendo's legal team bans it out of fear of affecting profit.

[@stefenboney7145]

Maybe in AW2 the global damage SCOPs will show more OOMPH in their animations

[@SerpenTyx]

I find it weird that Drake gets a visible rain effect after activating his power while with Olaf the snow just...appears? Weirdly inconsistent.