Manny Caro of Mandala Custom Shapes on the Twinzer and his relationship with Wil Jobson

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@woutoosting9741 6 ай бұрын

Great stuff! Even in The Netherlands we have Twinzer setup boards. They surf amazing

@joegreen9827 6 ай бұрын

i was surfing at newland street when willy paddled up to me to tell me about his first twinzer pretty cool it went this far.willy was my shaper in the 70s then lost touch until that day.i always wonder what happened to him.thanks for the video

@gdaddy7096 5 ай бұрын

Twinzers got a lot of attention among the design geeks about 10 years ago. They really are the solution for surfing a twin on your backside. The trick is sizing the main fin appropriately for the tail width and the weight of the surfer. Speaking of, Bing did an alt design called the Synchronizer that was set up to use ~6 different fin setups from thruster to quad to 2+1 and twinzer. One of the combos was a small keel + twinzer leader. The board design never caught on but the keel+leader turned out to be the best combo for fishes and other fat assed boards. Drivey enough to control the additional surface area of a 19" tail without being twitchy on the back side. An earlier example is/was the Michael Eaton Zinger; he (and AC Elliott) did a Bonzer bottom with a pair of the front runners from a Bonzer-4 set + a pair of high-aspect fins (like 7") mounted in the short Bahne boxes. The front runners are a lot larger than a twinzer leader, which when combined with the deep channels made the midlength designs great for the long carve and top end speed but too sticky for the pivoting surfing style of the shortboards. The design point is that the leader breaks up the flow and puts more water over the leading edge of the main fin. The channel between the fins (allegedly) creates a higher pressure zone over the main fin. One aspect of Caro's use of the twinzer that I appreciate is he is using FCS plugs for the leader and the Fusion box for the mains. That's a much stronger combo than using the triangular Future plug for the leader. Future really screwed that design up, those plug installs commonly failed.

@joeblow1942 4 ай бұрын

I use FCS plugs for the canards too. I didn’t know Futures even made a plug type??

@gdaddy7096 4 ай бұрын

@@joeblow1942 You're better off not knowing, but I'll tell you anyway. They call it their C-5 plug. It's triangular in shape and was intended to be used for adding little leaders to the side fins of a thruster setup. But twinzer leaders are a lot larger in size and put more stress into the plugs. Everyone I know who has used them for a twinzer has lost fins or the plugs have rolled under stress.

@gdaddy7096 4 ай бұрын

The better install (IMO) than the old FCS plugs is to cut a Fusion box in half and round the corner around the cut. If there's any overlap between the Fusion box for the main and the single plug for the side you can install the main box first and then trim the "plug" to fit the curve. That way you can get the correct spacing and gap between fin/leader. The high density foam in the Fusion collars more closely matches the flex characteristics of the blanks. That's where plug installs more commonly fail - the plastic doesn't flex as much as the blank.

@joeblow1942 4 ай бұрын

@@gdaddy7096 Great tip! Didn’t think of that. Thanks!

@joeblow1942 4 ай бұрын

@@gdaddy7096 Thanks for the tips!

@ColinO-ei2no 6 ай бұрын

Had an old Nev 7’4 daily progressive for its time, fin system for five. Played around and made some rough canards and the board easily worked best for me with that setup.

@MC-pi2ri 4 ай бұрын

Larmo and Kenson. I’ve got both. Finally tested in good surf in El Sal and loved em.

@joeblow1942 4 ай бұрын

Always loved twins back in the day but moved on after awhile. Rediscovered them about 5 years ago and love them again. I recently added a couple FCS plugs to a 3 year old twin that I liked and as a twinzer it’s even faster and better backside. Can’t believe it took me so frikkin long to do this.

@joeblow1942 4 ай бұрын

NOTE: See excellent advice in first comment on this page by gdaddy and his replies to me on using a modified FCS Fusion box for canards instead of FCS plugs.