Manual vs Automatic! What's A Better Transmission For The 750HP Supercharged Ford Mustang GT?

[@grahambj]

Love my 6 speed. My buddies thought i was crazy not to get the 10 speed but i didnt fet it for street racing. I just wanted something fun to drive! Can't wait to get my supercharger next!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah I like the manual. Much more fun! Even with this power. Aside from the people who only care about straight line speed, manual all day!

[@Cardoso71875]

I drove manual for 35 years and loved it, but now I'm in my 50s and don't want to be shifting gears all the time. These modern autos are pretty nice and I'm not missing my old manuals at all.

[@MK3504]

I love your explanation for skill being a fun factor. People don't seem to get, why they're hyped when they do a quarter mile in a DCT...without the control and skill factor it's just an expensive rollercoaster ride

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

For real! Definitely fun to experience a fast car. But after a while it becomes so routine. The manual is always something you have to work for. It’s fun to keep learning better skills

[@Tikbalang5.0]

This is something I've chatted in-depth about with friends and the younger generation on and this is the overall take I have. If you are a car enthusiast it doesn't matter what type of trans you have as long as you are passionate about your car and are willing to learn. However for those folks that argue they are a driving enthusiast, unless they are going for balls to the wall max performance, if they are driving an auto I'll look at them kind of funny, because as mentioned Manual does offer that connected driving experience that I dare say most driving enthusiast look for. At the end of the day being able to do both will benefit anyone greatly and its a shame one is being fazed out. Especially if you go to any other country (outside of North America), and there is an emergency situation chances are the vehicle will be manual and knowing how to drive one will open up so many more things you can do in general. This all coming from someone who just purchased a Mustang GT/CS in manual in January.

[@adamappell1212]

I got a 30-minute commute of heavy traffic to and from work that can be reduced to 20 minutes if I weave traffic well. I need to be able to hit openings and accelerate continuously until I need to slow down quickly. I'm plenty of a car enthusiast but not enough to do that 5 days a week in a manual. I don't buy cars to sit them in garages, so I need something that can be my daily and double as a pavement smoking missile when I want. For that brother, I choose the automatic. When I retire and just drive for fun, I will switch back to manual.

[@Tikbalang5.0]

@@adamappell1212 So normally I'd agree with these type of situations, but I personally had zero issues when I was temporarily working in Chicago. This might be a thing of a lot of newer cars just coming with a waaaayyy lighter clutch compared to older cars (there is a significant difference) but I digress. We all have our preferences. I'm simply just using my experience in my personal S550 Mustang (which is still somehow stock) vs friends cars which are older and have a short throw and feel like you go to leg day every single time you get in the thing.

[@adamappell1212]

@Tikbalang5.0 Well, I'm glad that you are having a blast with your GT my brother, but it sounds like to me we are just on opposite ends of the seesaw. I've owned and driven 5 manuals in the last 15 years. It sounds like you are new to the stick gang. I no longer feel the rush from hitting gears or need the feeling that I'm controlling every aspect of my acceleration. I'm just in a period of my life where I care more about the drive experience than I do driver engagement. In fact, I almost bought a sporty Cadillac instead of my current 5.0. In the end, though, I still need to hear that gorgeous V8 roar.

[@ARentz07]

I've got to agree with you that it is all about personal preference. There are people on both sides of the fence saying the other is wrong. "Why buy a manual? The auto has superior performance." Or, "Why not buy a manual? Didn't you learn to drive properly?" Both are wrong. You should just buy the car that suits your needs. It makes no sense to put someone down for buying the car they wanted.

[@thankyou9085]

👆👆👆

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah people need to chill with waiting the other side. Both have their pros and cons. But the manual certainly has the fun factor for my taste!

[@rickcano3863]

I’m looking to buy a 2019 with the roush charger installed and your video has convinced me to get it so that’s what I’m working on right now 🙏

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Nice! Its a pretty sweet car for sure!

[@raaraa77]

Depends. If you're using the car for a daily drive, then automatic is better. But if you want a more immersive driving experience, then manual is the way to go.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Very true!

[@rembo183]

A manual is definitely more engaging but also can be more stressful when on a hill and someone is right on your rear end! Hill assisted manuals are a big improvement plus using your emergency brake makes driving more exciting. Daily driving my Miata is great even with an automatic. It’s still lots of fun with nimble handling and terrific steering!

[@smilebro100]

A think a manual is better at dailyjng because i get bored driving so if i can make my daily more engaging im in

[@kevinbreese5739]

Proud of you! You didn't stay stupid shit in this video. Very well done! TU! Love my 6-sp manual 800hp Whipple'd Mustang GT! Which, btw, I highly recommend Nitto 555R2 DR's for safe traction on the street. I have them in 305/35/20's on Project 6GR wheels and it hooks quite well.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

lol. This manual had good traction, can't remember the tires. But very fun car in the manual!

[@VgnMuscle]

I'm sold. When you first reviewed the auto I never imagined or thought I would being seeing so much joy and smiles coming out of you driving the manual. I will be going for the manual. Thanks for this video.

[@Aschoolbusandsimulatorfan2219]

I love both, Also I go with Automatic dude.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah they each have some benefits

[@renkitsunesylvia3318]

I had the stock 2017 Ford Mustang GT as a 10-speed automatic and that thing was just fast. I’d floor that pedal and it would just go. But i can admit it was just fun, no skill. I now have a 2015 Ford Mustang GT as a manual 6-speed supercharged Roush Stage 2. This is the best car I’ve ever had in my life. All the skills I am learning while driving and racing my 750 HP car are unforgettable. Wish I could’ve tried a supercharged automatic Mustang though! That would also be fun!

[@xxchrisgamerxx6850]

im pretty sure 2017 didnt come with a 10 speed they came with a 6 speed auto

[@Musicheadz]

0:47 that white civic si in the back 😍😍

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah that was a nice si for sure!

[@fly3436]

My first manual car is my current s550 v6 😅 looking forward to get the 2024 mustang GT

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That'll be cool getting into the new one!

[@peterherceg1344]

Manual all day heaps more fun experience and better bang for your money for power driving

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah they are fun!

[@malcolmn.5222]

Automatic sports car are a waste. You have to really be breaking the law to enjoy it

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah you need the speed to really get the fun out of it. Manual you can really play with it at every speed

[@malcolmn.5222]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed perfect shifts are also so rewarding

[@sadlerfamily5]

Shifting is for a work truck

[@johnjagodzimski2158]

Especially if it's procharged 😂😂😂

[@Hamodi-li7vi]

Is manual faster ​@@BrosFOURRSpeed

[@BM-wt3tx]

2021 gt convertible, triple black, black wheels with red caliper covers and black style bar. Sounds soo good with top down. Super charger is next. Fun car now though.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Oh I bet! Supercharger will be awesoem! My brother in-law has a 700HP GT with a Supercharger. Very fast car!

[@mblake0420]

Agreed, manuals are better

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Definitely a ton of fun!

[@ivangutierrez738]

And slower lol

[@mblake0420]

@@ivangutierrez738 depends on the situation, try racing down a mountain

[@alabdel1388]

I think the key difference for me is to get enjoyment out of an automatic you have to go out of your way to throttle up, otherwise at normal speeds its boring. With a manual you can find enjoyment at normal speeds.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Very good point! I wasn’t going crazy high speeds and I was smiling ear to ear in the manual. Can really play with the gears and have some fun!

[@ARentz07]

That's a fair point. I do think some really good autos exist that are still simply enjoyable to operate, like a PDK, for example.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah I think the Mustang has one of the most boring autos. The paddles aren't fun. But any good DCt or a ZF auto is a lot of fun with paddles

[@Sleepymaneburr7]

Need to do the new Golf R

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Hopefully we can get one to film!

[@mm8436]

Manual!

[@joshgalka9414]

Auto is better...

[@mm8436]

@@joshgalka9414 better is subjective. Sure auto is faster. But manual is more engaging. Funner (imo). Manual also retains their value better. Manual r8 is worth more than an auto. There's a reason European Auto Group has a service to convert autos to manual. People want their manuals!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It was some fun!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

So true! Had a blast in the manual. And yeah nice sportscars and supercars in manual go for way more money!

[@Travos69]

Driven both and the manual in stock form is noticeably slower. It's the gears in the rear or the lack of 4 other gears in the trans. 1st gear in the manual feels like 2nd. I felt like I was taking off in 3rd and kept looking for first in the manual. I've had a 86 manual for over 20 years. It's definitely went full circle. The newer mustangs are definitely more fun and faster with an automatic.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Sure, any automatic is faster than a manual, that's a given, but there's more engagement with a manual in general...but it just depends on what the buyer will enjoy.

[@Travos69]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed depends on how far u go back. Manual use to be faster.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@Travos69 id still take a 24 manual over the auto…not everything is about speed. A few milliseconds slower for a more engaging drive is what I’d prefer.

[@Travos69]

@BrosFOURRSpeed ya but if on a budget u will find yourself replacing things on a manual u wouldn't need to on an auto. Rear gears and a shifter are on my immediate wishlist.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@Travos69 interesting, never seen a new vehicle have to have that done..I wouldn’t change anything, that’s a personal preference.

[@johninnh4880]

Crank or wheel HP? I'm a standard transmission guy, but as you said the autos are very good and are faster. Replacement cost or repair is a LOT more money with an automatic.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Should be crank HP. It’s what the Roush kit says the car makes with the SC

[@mederic999]

If you are used to drive manuals and enjoy it, then definitely a manual, even in stop-and-go traffic. 460 hp is more than enough for street use, I find it silly to add a supercharger...

[@malcolmn.5222]

I find it silly that you need 460hp.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Have you driven a supercharged Mustang? Normal GT is pretty quick. But this adds a lot of excitement!

[@mederic999]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed No I have not but I don't see the point as my stock GT is already too powerful for daily use.

[@Slickpete83]

*how much does the dealer charge for this upgrade including parts & labour ?*

[@truthbetold8787]

I think he said 11k

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Ford dealer should be $11k option on these

[@NoModsCoyote]

Why does everyone say manual is bad for daily? I daily mine in Houston rush hour traffic. New manuals are super easy to drive.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Some people just don't like shifting.

[@izack367]

manual all the way unless your are gonna drive it daily for your job

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah very true! Loved the manual on this car!

[@BrokenAdam770]

Driving an automatic is a lot easier because I won't hurt my legs while travelling alone.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah it definitely takes the leg work out 😅 literally

[@pwdt4r313]

Hurt your legs? I have a stage 3 clutch and barely notice a difference from stock. Are your legs ok?

[@johnarevalo3450]

Doesn't the Manuel also save better on gas?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Im not too sure. Not really concerned with saving gas in this car lol

[@xxchrisgamerxx6850]

auto has better gas mileage than manuals

[@oreally8605]

Stupid question here: But will your Gallardo be automatic or stick? Or whatever you end up with?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Most likely the E-Gear. Manual is a lot more expensive and puts that out of budget. I do like the single clutch tho. Very engaging and old school feeling

[@08turboSS]

The auto might be slightly quicker to 60 mph, above that, the 6spd will walk away provided a good driver.

[@hobbes7460]

How heavy was the clutch? Don’t know if my knees can take it anymore.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Pretty normal I'd say. It wasn't anything out of the ordinary

[@jeremiahbonilla9284]

All depends on skills man, if you’re gonna push a car to compare vs an automatic you have to know the correct speed to start a rolling and at what gear, obviously you have a slow shift compare at how the transmission can do it.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

No manual can shift as fast as an automatic. No human can move the ever as quick as the computers do. But depends on what type of driving you like. I enjoy the manual for a car like this. But some like the quicker lap times in the auto

[@jeremiahbonilla9284]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed im not saying that he’s gonna shift like an automatic does, im just saying his shift is slow if he wants to feel the real power of the car

[@carguy...]

I had a 17 roush mustang from ford and they are nowhere near 700rwhp from ford, mine was dynoed at just under 600rwhp

[@anthonysmith756]

The only problem with the ten speed they do have issue with reliability

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Oh yeah?

[@sankemen27]

The mt82 is the weak point of the manual. Tremec is a must for a manual with this much power.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah I've heard less then good things. This car seemed really nice. But the Tremec definitely is a step up

[@andygarcia546]

Weather its a mustang , challenger/charger , Camaro if you buy a automatic, stop racing in manual mode , you got an auto so live with it , your not shifting as fast as the car could shift itself. If you really wanted to control your shifts should of got manual. That being said I could never buy an auto muscle car that’s just me.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah very good point! Auto mode was more fun in this car too. These cars really only seem fun for me in the manual. European cars with DCT or ZF autos are a different story

[@deadmonk5y]

idk... ive had three manual gt mustangs ('95, '12, and '18). i think the more recent years of this car is built for the auto and these things are so good these days. bmw and mercedes are moving away from manual and even DCT and opting to equip their cars with autos. i feel like auto lets you take more advantage of what this car is capable of (which is what i want if im paying today's prices). i like long road trips and MT does get tiring when you have to break cruise control to shift. plus i can have co-drivers (my gf) take over when i get tired. im not against manual but would probably get one in something more like a gr86, miata, or boxter where driving "feel" is more a part of the experience. if i had the budget, I would get a darkhorse or mach 1 with the manual and then have another GT PP1 with auto. but for that money, im probably looking at a 911 or M4 instead.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah there are some great benefits with both. In my Supra I can actually shift while cruise control is on and the cruise doesn't turn off. Never thought a manual could do that. But nice to see the Supras cruise control stay working while shifting. I like the manuals for the fun factor since my Supra isn't a daily. But it's nice for people who daily their sportscar to have the auto but can use the paddles for extra fun. Both transmissions these days offer a lot. Nice to have a quick auto and truly experience all of the power uninterrupted. But also fun to be more engaged with the manual

[@vonstrong92]

The zf 8 speed in the scatpack sounds better than 10 speed auto I’ll still take the manual in mustang but 8 speed in scatpack cause it sounds better 😅

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah the ZF shifts much quicker and definitely lets the engine sound more distinctive between each gear. I'm not a fan of the 10 speed. If the Mustang had the ZF, the auto would be more fun. But I definitely love the manual in these cars!

[@cristirado_official01]

Do these ones have transmission problems like the 2011-2017? I was about to buy a mustang with the 3.7L V6 but then my mechanic told me about a really serious problem with both automatic and manual MT82 transmissions that is very expensive to address and replacing the transmission doesn't solve it, because Ford will install another defective transmission.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I know the 10 speed is pretty robust. However the MT82 seems to have some issues from what owners have said

[@cristirado_official01]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed thanks for the feedback!!! I was undecided between a Mustang 3.7 V6 or a 2020 Fusion Sport 2.7L ecoboost.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Oh gotcha!

[@jasearon4532]

Auto faster but should be big engine. Manual faster but should be big engine.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

What?

[@jasearon4532]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed what do you mean what? What was the Subject Sausage?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@jasearon4532 Both cars have the same engine. Auto is faster because it shifts faster then manual.

[@angelsanchez-qx5le]

What year are the cars ?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I think they were 2018's. Black car sold. Blue one might still be available. But just check out Champion Car Companies website

[@wg8290]

I don’t drag race and prefer the fun of driving any manual car.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

For sure! Same with me, the manual just makes it so fun! Could care less about straight line times lol

[@RPG-GT]

Manual transmission is the only way to race a mustang, shift fast...your shifts are sloooooowwww

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

For drag racing the auto will definitely give you better times. But the manual is the way to go for me. So much more fun and you learn to become a better driver in a manual!

[@RPG-GT]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed better times maybe a little bit nothing out of this world, the problem is kids don't wanna learn a manual. Like everything else wants easy Street stuff 😉

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Very true! There is a shift lately of more people not wanting manual. Sad to see. People seem to like cars based on numbers on paper rather than the real fun factor of driving

[@zahf6484]

When it comes to mustangs and specifically these mustangs where the whole point is maxing out performance and speed, 10 speed automatic is the way to go.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeas it is for speed. But the fun factor is worth a lot tho

[@joycemakwela9850]

USA car

[@joycemakwela9850]

Ohhhhhhhh😂

[@joycemakwela9850]

Braaaaaaaaaa

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah the US likes muscle cars!

[@scottbrawley407]

Automatic!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Definitely a fast car!

[@joshgalka9414]

Automatic, Hands down! #SaveTheAutos

[@oreally8605]

Save the Autos? 😂 Just learn how to drive a stick for the heck of it.

[@norbertnagy5514]

​@@oreally8605yeah, really(im still at driving school but near the end, not from USA)

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I don't think we need to save the autos lol. 99% of cars in the USA are auto

[@andersonk-stones272]

Automatic all day everyday 😇

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Why!?

[@VgnMuscle]

Any idea on what kind of mpg from a manual? Would be very helpful to know.