Salman Rushdie and Arundhati Roy interview (1997)

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[@katlamb4606]

I’m refreshed by Arundhati’s honesty. Came here for Salman but stayed for her.

[@TemplarX2]

She was so beautiful as if a goddess made fresh.

[@roshankaul1008]

Evocative! “There is romance about India. There is mystery about India. There is for all the poverty, for all the pain, for all the violence, something that makes it different--Grace.”

[@tejmachhar4903]

Mr Koul a Kashmiri yes. Isn't Arundhati Roy a horrible person?

[@aniljaiswal2090]

@@tejmachhar4903 what made you say this? Curious... I find her brave with rational intellectual skills

[@tejmachhar4903]

@@aniljaiswal2090 You must be from the breaking India gang. What is wrong with you, your name is Anil Jaiswal. Kashmir is an integral part of India and times ahead there is Akhand Bharat having a saffron flag. Do you have any questions

[@richardwestwood8212]

You wrote it down as if it were the holy writ !!!!!!!!!

[@KBSINN]

what a nice way to put it for all the stupid administration we select for governance and an even pathetic customs we respect and so oblige in the name of religion.

[@NidzShah-ps6kr]

Arundhati and Salman both describe 2 Indias that are very much a reality and coexist with each other even in real time. Understanding both is very very important. I hope we Indians can get over this tryst with nationalism and embrace dissent in all it's forms :)

[@shubhanshujain752]

What is the freedom of expression without the freedom to offend? Salman Rushdie

[@captain4595]

Freedom to offend doesn't come under freedom of speech

[@shubhanshujain752]

@@captain4595 you offended me by saying that and yet you are okay with pursuing your freedom of speech. Why cant anyone else do that ?

[@fishfingers8441]

@@captain4595 that’s the most baffling contradiction I’ve ever seen. By definition the freedom to speak is the freedom to have your opinions changed, to hear what you don’t want to hear. But sure, fine, let’s make a rule that we no longer may offend. Number one; define hate (impossible). Second, those rules of what’s regarded offensive are great for you until your opposing party takes over government and then your argument will be used against you. They’ll play your game and best believe what you class as acceptable and non offensive will offend them very much. Then you become the one silenced and it’s your own doing. Go live in North Korea I’d you like that idea. Not a good one I hope you’ll find. We’re not Stalin or hitler so stop acting like that’s the kind of order you’d want imposed.

[@captain4595]

@@fishfingers8441 I will not debate much but clearly there's a limit to FOE.Those include,not giving slangs on Mother and sister,never spread misinformation, don't speak about obscene things in front of children, never disrespect teachers,elders,never provoke anyone intentionally.You can't follow them,you don't deserve Freedom of speech.

[@fishfingers8441]

@@captain4595 that’s called oppression my friend, not to mention that everything you listed other than misinformation for advertising are absolutely legal and allowed. You seem to need to do some reading.

[@askaichin]

One interesting observation. Arundhati comes across strikingly more original in thought than anyone on the table here. Breath of fresh air as they say.

[@lampad4549]

You need to listen to more people.

[@user-cz7sb1ow5d]

Totally disagree! I come from the same town that she grew up in, I can see she is typical of many people of my neighbourhood that love to dwell on,y on the negative. India especially Kerala where she & I are from have progressed enormously & I don’t mean state wealth since independence. I mean the lives of people! The children of domestic workers & labourers no longer are bound by their past. Free education to uneducated parents on nutrition, importance of educating children, social welfare for underprivileged are just some of the few policies in Kerala that has enabled someone like me from a low caste, decedent of 7 generations of illiterate labourers become educated & work abroad leading a multinational company. I am by no means the exception! A vast majority of Indians from Kerala live lifes very different to their parents. Yes Kerala is only a small part of India but this pattern of progress is not limited to Kerala & Arundhati Roy who lives in Kerala & is I must add vastly protected from many of the tragedies unfortunately happening in certain northern parts of India, seem not to have nothing positive to say, A bleak future for India is what she predicts! Yes India has problems but what Arundhati Roy simply ignores is that amidst all of the problems is the resilience of our people, the progress we have made & are still making in the lives of the general public. Yes we have big problems that are yet to be resolved,we have political parties that are at each other s throats & political agendas that sometimes create havoc in our beautiful country but India & Indians are not limited to simply that! We have overcome problems & only got stronger- why has Arundhati Roy got nothing positive to say,she reminds me of a sly Kerala politician who complains & whines but has no positive solution to offer!

[@janeswan1124]

@@user-cz7sb1ow5d Well said about the opportunistic negativism of these "intellectuals"; hope India never falls to this woke culture

[@nerinav]

I agree . Arundhati is special. I : INTELLECTUAL N: NATIONALISTIC D: DRAVIDIANS I: INDEPENDENT A: ARYANS

[@movie30000]

100 percent. She seems to be the sole soul of this conversation because she cares and the rest are just trying to superficially touch and smooth out effects of her depth

[@veiledrebecca4659]

An erudite Salman Rushdie speaking in the 50th year of Independence. Please get well soon Sir and enlighten us with your take on the 75th year of Independent India.

[@reecosmicatomsb8576]

Abrahamics can take enlightenment from Rushdie. Hindus don't need enlightenment from abrahamics. We're enlightened since ages... Only we were extremely soft & magnanimous with our enemies till now..

[@veiledrebecca4659]

@@reecosmicatomsb8576 The one who loves all intensely begins perceiving in all living beings, a part of himself. And he who conceiving the self as a part of the universal soul does not look down on anyone. He becomes a lover of all. He becomes a lover of all, a part and parcel of the Universal Joy.He flows with the stream of happiness, and is enriched by each soul. - the Yajur Veda

[@reecosmicatomsb8576]

@@veiledrebecca4659 Hindus know all these things. Don't use abrahamic tricks to fool Hindus. Those days are gone.. History is full of evidence of how you'll have cheated the good hearted Hindus... It's time for adharmic forces to be vanquished. Even our Lords Sri Rama & Sri Krishna use the appropriate ways to destroy adharma... This confrontation is going to happen sooner or later. Today no Hindu or no dharmic human being believes in the lies, manipulation, deceit of the abrahamics.

[@randolphpinkle4482]

@@reecosmicatomsb8576 That kind of arrogance is one reason why India is still a developing country.

[@reecosmicatomsb8576]

@@randolphpinkle4482 as if America , Europeans, British etc etc are humble. Their history is full of plunder & genocide...

[@hoshiarsinghgill2157]

Arundhati is giving a true narrative of what is happening in India some people only want to hear praise and boasting !

[@theawantikamishra]

Exactly

[@gustofzephyr947]

No she's giving a colonial slave narrative to India.

[@ankurkaushik7190]

@@gustofzephyr947 opinion may differ on this, but your comment seems entirely irrelevant and out of the box.

[@gustofzephyr947]

@@ankurkaushik7190 It is relevant because in order for a nation to prosper it needs to have a national narrative based on historical facts, not stereotypes and broad generalisations with colonial biases, the kind that Roy presents here.

[@abhishekmhatre1554]

@@ankurkaushik7190 Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean their views are irrelevant. Next time try rebutting their views rather than just dismissing them.

[@samt1705]

18:30 "There is a language crisis in India... There are a lot of Indians who can't speak any language properly". 👍 True!

[@okay850]

Arundhati:it's so scary that there is a line that one cannot cross. Salman Rushdie: l intend to cross all the lines.😆❤️❤️❤️

[@apieceoflife2732]

She was talking about incest.

[@chaitanyavelamala7268]

@@apieceoflife2732 irony is even in that case muslims are most into incest & his comment still makes sense. They marry nephews. Not just cousins but even sisters aren't spared

[@krishnaghop977]

Rushdie is wife beater so he definately crossed the line lost all the respect

[@Megabimol]

@@krishnaghop977 where is the source of your claim

[@okay850]

@@apieceoflife2732 she was not talking about incest.She was talking about being critical of the govt n scared of being targeted.lts her propaganda eversince.

[@confusedsoul4746]

That year I was born, I find blissful to know India was forward thinking that time as we had such great writers that time. Healthy and honest discussion which seem rarely now. It has been cornered somewhere behind noise of arnab goswami

[@sagarchakraborty2928]

Alas! Felt Same.

[@harshilgala9121]

They started the discussion staying india is all about poverty and illiteracy.. i guess this interview took place in 1997. So you believe that was india in1997 and the healthy discussion was due to fact that all were of the same view.. btw i hate arnab.. but to portray a country so negatively is so cruel

[@divyanshtiwari3547]

Actually Leftist are really careful and great speakers but cant say the same about their characters. They will never say whats going on in their minds. They'll only speak what seems cool or appreciated. For example this woman talks many ideas of India but still supports many who want to break from it.

[@Kds140]

I hope you know same india was the first country to ban his book.

[@Tuhin_Hanafee]

You didnt read his book for sure.... Rushdi can write only shit, .....

[@nazmussaquib9260]

I am reading the comments - and realized that once mostly privileged people had access to the internet. If if you can't see the sense of entitlement two white people have shown in this conversation, and did not realize that only Arundhati Roy is talking about the people in India - it means you belong to the upper caste/ruling class/or neo -rich from corrupt capitalism. She was talking about "tribalism" in 1997 and foreign affairs were magazine talking about after "trump". So, the privileged class ignored the plight of people as long as the rupture becomes inconvenient.

[@noamchomsky729]

❤

[@jacksonkingk2240]

wow...excellent analysis.. this is the first thing which struck my mind. salman was a bit of a dreamer maybe because of his distance from inida but arundhati was an realist intellectual the tribalism blew my mind...how accurate.

[@Konoronn]

Oh shut up. The internet was better before 'underprivileged' people gained access to it.

[@priyanshupandey5451]

she herself steals land of tribals and builds her home over it

[@Sonuthethinker]

Roy's so called negative for the nation in fact carries the seeds of positivity for the betterment of Indians.

[@drgiriprasad.7977]

Never

[@confusedsoul4746]

We all carry the sewed of positivity, I think it's about how we express that, Rushdie expression is famous because it impress the liberal mind. Roy do it the other way round.

[@KilgoreTrout-vo7uy]

I call bullshit. I have been following her for about a decade now and all her talk for the betterment of Indians is just thinly veiled contempt for India.

[@KilgoreTrout-vo7uy]

@@AS-lo6xo idk who you are or how much you read but if there is one book that you must read to understand the current scenario, it is Arun Shourie's Eminent Historians.

[@KilgoreTrout-vo7uy]

@@AS-lo6xo false equivalence. Idk whether to think of you as insincere or merely intellectually brittle and thus closed off to worldviews that would challenge your own. The work by Shourie is amazingly well researched and the citations are on point. Judge it on its own merits and not based on your preconceived notions as to supposed tyrants and their associates. I could recommend other scholarly works on Indian history but I recommend Shourie because it's a good starting point wherein he provides a comparative analysis of various schools of historiography in India, whilst relying on primary sources. Other historians that you may refer to are Jadunath Sarkar, RC Majumdar, Meenakshi Jain, Seetaraam Goel. Read these works alongside the works by Marxist historians such as RS Sharma, Bipan Chandra, Romila Thapar, Irfan Habib for a fair assessment of the subject and decide for yourself. If, however, you have your ideological blinkers, I am afraid no amount of scholarship can help you see the whole picture.

[@priyanshishukla2458]

If one can ignore the 1997 in the video title and the technical aspects which age this video it's absolutely impossible to believe it's a 25 year old conversation. At least Roy 's points hold water even today. Only the burning issues have become a wildfire now.

[@Vk-sk7nm]

The only person who makes sense here is Rushdie. Arundati is all about fearmongering, Victimhood and showing a whole population in Bad light. Who are already struggling with these issues.

[@pranaysuvarna3906]

She is a Marxist !

[@RoshanKumar-dw7zh]

Rushdie and Roy had different opinions and comments despite the same situations. It's up to you what you want to do and believe in !

[@pranaysuvarna3906]

Nonsense 🤣

[@srebalanandasivam9563]

Roy will be irrelevant soon as the gallery she appeals to, will disappear soon

[@adityashankar5211]

20 years down the line since this interview came and we are still fighting and shelling bullets, violating ceasefires while still shaking hands like hypocrites at diplomatic meetings. Sad

[@adityashankar5723]

We have same name

[@immasniper3832]

@@adityashankar5723 What are you 12?

[@RoshanKumar-dw7zh]

It all originates when political leaders who are chosen to decide and lead the country become victims of self idealism and vote bank politics. Half of the issues which are prevalent in today's times could have easily been settled yet no one dared to touch them. Political correctness and pseudo secularism has its ways and it has been detrimental to India.

[@sumukhbharadwaj4802]

I can't help getting swept away by Arundhati Roy's charm and intellect.

[@amulyamishra5745]

Because you're idiot

[@KilgoreTrout-vo7uy]

>Suzzana Arundhati Roy >Intellect Pick one.

[@vishaldora8803]

@@amulyamishra5745, You must be an idiotic modi bhakt .

[@amulyamishra5745]

@@vishaldora8803 I don't know..Modi Bhakts like to call me a leftist.

[@bprithiraj8611]

@@amulyamishra5745 then what do you call roy

[@hussainoid]

Arundhati is passionate (and optimistic, as naive people like to call her a pessimist) about India in ways that an average subscriber of a radical ideology simply cannot comprehend. She speaks from a level of depth and detail that they can never know even exists. And she is apprehensive about India in ways that they will never choose to acknowledge. Yes, India is an intact marriage.

[@RoshanKumar-dw7zh]

It's pretty clear what she intended even back then. The hatred for BJP is deep rooted in her mind and I don't think she can ever let it go. And, yes the nehruvian secularism always makes things look politically correct yet practically awful.

[@hussainoid]

@@RoshanKumar-dw7zh Alternatively, the blind servitude for BJP is so deep rooted in your mind that any criticism of a political ideology appears "hatred" to you, as if it's personal. BJP is essentially a far-right Hindutva extremist party for which development and welfare is secondary and majoritarian, communal politics is primary. You cannot comprehend that, you simply lack the bandwidth.

[@RoshanKumar-dw7zh]

@@hussainoid Amidst all the fancy vocabulary what clearly can be seen is that the Left, state parties and the Congress all join hands to uproot this Hindu nationalist party called BJP. In times like these when anything and everything can work just to remove bjp from power, I would have liked to see the leftist liberals show some spine. But, alas it's Kaliyuga... We can talk about Ayodhya time and again but no one cares about Shah Bano !

[@umax870]

@@hussainoid there is no such thing as hindutva extremist and she supported muslim terrorist.

[@crazyjester993]

@@hussainoid seriously hindutva is no where when it comes to islamic extremism , have it been at parity of islam you guys would be not allowed to utter a single just like what happened with salman rushdie 2022.

[@ManoxKB]

Arundhati was as firm then as she is now. Spectacular. I always felt that she is ahead of time in many aspects, and this interview confirmed it even more. My goodness she's even more beautiful now, after more than 20 years.

[@prashanthn1832]

she takes drugs

[@itr8247]

Do you agree with her denial of bangladesh genocide??

[@happygucci5094]

she is very beautiful

[@manjulaadappa6128]

I second Arundathi Roys view about the most unique feature of indians " The depth of a relationship..... Of standing by each other through thick & thin, the deep sense of commitment.... " For better or for worse"... ... a la "Romeo & Juliet"... which in the modern world is old fashioned, but to the indian is emotionally rewarding!

[@govinddwivedi582]

How serene Arundhati mam is!

[@satanshameer690]

Lol , A Hinduism Critique and Islam Critique coming together. I'm enjoying this

[@remo6130]

I would they're more of immorality critiques, religion just does plays a huge part in that

[@KilgoreTrout-vo7uy]

@@remo6130 no. Arundhati Roy is just a hate-mongering bigot.

[@paulatreides6218]

@@KilgoreTrout-vo7uy I think you are a Modi fan

[@bprithiraj8611]

@@paulatreides6218 she is a bigot.perhaps modi and india made her that way.

[@ABhattacharya]

@@bprithiraj8611 She was always this way.

[@deeptiparmar4019]

I feel sad to see that people are so negative about either Arundhati or Salman . One should understand writers will write what they feel and what is needed for society and we can't compare any two writers . Arundhati gives a critic view about india which is not untrue even in 2019. Salman talks about the positive future india holds out of whatever has happened. We should not compare these two people or voices . We need both and we should appreciate both . Such brave , true , critic , positive people are required to help us staying on our Feet always instead of flying . Most of the people here in comments are highly non-democratic in their thoughts . And I feel it's hypocritical to be getting so abusive on the honest views of both of them if you are truly democratic !

[@pranavkumarraghuvanshi7977]

Just the way people should understand that writers will write what they feel, similarly writers should understand that people will react how they feel.

[@didyouknow2966]

That happens when one lacks perspectives

[@amalsali3422]

"Positive"?? It doesn't gel well

[@ambhat3953]

If AR and SR have nonsense to say....why is that only they can say it ? If you think we are speaking nonsense, live with it. FOS works both ways, that's what you libtards always forget

[@gatocachorro7998]

Arundhati is a wolf in 🐑 clothing. She deserves it.

[@deeliciousplum]

Thank you for sharing this discussion. While listening to the ideas and concerns shared by Arundhati Roy, I was compelled to explore snippets of her writings. Arundhati Roy, as like Salman Rushdie, is a priceless humanitarian. 🌸

[@naura9952]

Read GOD OF SMALL THINGS

[@deeliciousplum]

@@naura9952 Thank you for the heads-up on Arundhati's book.

[@pasosdegigante7]

this might be arundhati's first time at charlie rose, sitting next to two seasoned professionals with much more experience than her, and yet she's completely cool, fresh, confident and really interesting

[@udaikumar1782]

but she was a pain to listen to with so much fillers.

[@MJ-nz6ys]

This Interview brings back a lot of memory of my teenage hood.

[@mn-mj8gi]

They're so differently alike, it's beautiful to listen to.

[@katlamb4606]

As an Ethiopian, I really feel Arundhati! My country may not be nearly as big as India but we have the same demons.

[@shreejitsarkar7401]

I just love the god of small things. it's so unique .the storyline, style of narration -just amazing.

[@harshvardhanrollno-4343]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@apieceoflife2732]

@@harshvardhanrollno-4343 Do Bhakts have anything meaningful to say instead of trolling?

[@govinddwivedi582]

yes, it is very beautifully written

[@devakinandan7659]

@@apieceoflife2732 not so bad to laugh at terrori$ts tho

[@Findorfound]

@@apieceoflife2732 Name calling people based on an emoji? Only some third grade kid would read Arundhati' book. Nobody in his/her sane mind would take her opinion on its face value, they lack substance and worth nothing. But some do take that seriously and turn up horrible. Like, just look at the way you're reacting in particular and some people in general, who rely on rhetoric than facts.

[@shivaprasadgurabasukagali59]

You can clearly see, Arundhati Roy is so pessimistic about everything and Salman is so optimistic about India.

[@sumanchowdhury6162]

Rushdi had similar vibes tht any outsider has about India, a charm. Roy grew up inside, in a tiny village, a single mother, outsider f her community, fighting a battle to fit into the world. So different perspective.

[@sourav2124]

​@@sumanchowdhury6162roy is fucked up stupid

[@ankushds7018]

And who ended up being more realistic?😂

[@Nobo_On_The_Rocks]

For one thing, she is the one who stayed back , embraced the culture and still fights for the ppl as an activist..even now. On the contrary Rushdie, and no hard feelings for him, is seeing from an hour glass view of an outsider. Long story short see India now🙏

[@nadiahossain6827]

@@Nobo_On_The_Rocks well said

[@robinsen8858]

Interesting point Roy makes about concentrating on primary education, even if it is more difficult to say, as she does, primary education rather than higher education.

[@mziaee]

Salman talks about the image of India - crafted by politicians and shaped by media - glitzy, mysterious and always larger than life; but in reality - superfluous. Arundhati talks about the Indians - their struggles, their fears & fights on a daily basis with living a decent life; and their bloody perseverance through it all. Not a damn country in the world where Indians have not outshine the locals - cause they've swum in shit all their prev life and now given perfumed streets, they bloody shine! In short the India that Rushdie speaks about has not a tenth of the fortitude that the Indians, Arundhati speaks about. If the vast majority of my fellow countrymen stop getting distracted and vote out the assholes and in the able administrators; maybe that India will live upto those Indians.

[@happy_biird]

Who are these able administrators?

[@kusinara8936]

Arundhati is brainwashed, she hates herself and it shows

[@Nahibatanabhai]

It's due to policies inacted by communists and leftists in India that kept india poor , she still wants india to remain poor and fragile just so she can feel better about herself

[@shaolin89]

Arundhati is agonizingly beautiful haha wow.

[@eagleaurumwealthclub3484]

Yes though this video is twenty years old.

[@ananyamalhotra9032]

I would have really lIked if you would commented on her prolific writing and empathetic way of speaking than conferring her with the compliment of ‘beauty’. I know you could have meant beauty as a neutral term but it certainly isn’t perceived as one.

[@sisyphus645]

@@ananyamalhotra9032 And where does the fault lie? Within the perceiver, if you ask me

[@koushikchandrasekaran4385]

Salman for unpartitioned india 🇮🇳, he makes a lot of sense since that time

[@hasankamal1813]

Arundhati Roy and Salman Rushdie, both of them have portrayed the same India from two different perspective. Unfortunately the both perspectives are 100% subtle and accurate. And in comment section Hindu Fundamentalists are cursing Arundhati and Islamic Fundamentalists are cursing Rushdie. This thing also points out a peculiar thing about fundamentalists that regardless of their faith and ideology they carry the same hatred in their hearts for the critics . Don't believe me? Okay, just scroll down the comment section.

[@truthseepeaking]

Once you call them Fundamentalists you can then abuse them huh? You are nothing but an intellectual Thug aka troll. Prove the Hindus wrong factually.

[@anikethchakraborty3238]

So you support murder, rape and genocide of Kashmiri Hindus ? Did Arundhati Roy ever receive death threats and cannot stay in India?

[@rajnirani7772]

I don't understand how a person like Salman who has such immense love for India and its uniqueness can be hated here. It's sad.

[@HeathWatts]

Religion instills hatred in people. Salman "insulted" Islam somehow with his writing. Look at the Hindutva movement led by fascist Modi and its treatment of Muslims. Christian fascists in the US are taking away women's rights. Jewish fascists in Israel are commiting apartheid against Palestinians. When one believes in an imaginary being, a god, then one is susceptible to fascism, and is prone to committing hateful acts.

[@chaitanyavelamala7268]

It's a certain community that hates him for speaking the truth & issues fatwas. Now he can never set his foot in India. We don't need to be ashamed as Indians as a whole

[@HeathWatts]

@@chaitanyavelamala7268 That is true. It's just the Islamo-fascists in India that are shameful, just as Modi's Hindu-fascists are in India, and Trump's Christo-fascists are in the US. Religion coupled with the right wing leads to bad outcomes.

[@debabratadatta3696]

@@HeathWatts what is hindu fascists asshole?

[@HeathWatts]

@@debabratadatta3696 Modi supporters are fascists.

[@chakreshsingh]

OMG Salam thinks his English, in any way, resonates with the music of thoughts of an Indian.. How many of you picked up to read the Enchantress of Florence and had to throw it away because its essentially a GRE preparation guide rather than a novel about the Mughal age..

[@robinsen8858]

Interesting how Salman Rushdie said that India's jubilee shows that Americans are really interested in India whereas Britain does, but that things were changing. Things have indeed changed since then. Despite some isolationist forces many Americans now understand that their giant nation needs to develop relations with another giant nation - India. Britain seems to have more difficulty in transforming its relationship with India

[@arshsingh6553]

Love how everyone is soo erudite. Such a nice simple candid conversation about how & why each of them love India. :D

[@vijabhinav]

@25:00 Arundhati summed up india's problem so well, 20 years back then.

[@neelubhandari8277]

Abhinav Vij even more true for the US

[@errol700]

For the people who disagree with Arundhati Roy's political views, I say read her book " The God of Small Things"; not for the story, or the plot or the 'scandal' but just to admire her control over the written English language. She made the language of our colonizers her very own. Not many can match her minute observations and descriptions- one can picture the vegetation, feel the air, taste the pickles, smell the stench of feces, be disgusted by the description of bodily fluids, and so on. I decided not to read any of her future fiction writings because I think she can never ever better her first book. An artist or writer produces a masterpiece only once in their lifetime, and that book, regardless of its size, is a true masterpiece. (I still disagree with her on many of her views though).

[@manteshsharma9351]

Indians in general do make things of their colonizers as their very own anyway!

[@sivalikanand2718]

@@manteshsharma9351 what does that mean...colonizer make people do everything for them... Understand history and politics in the right sense

[@manteshsharma9351]

@@sivalikanand2718 Africa is in the process of decolonisation. East Asia already did that. In India the very proposal of decolonisation is somehow "right wing", "Hindutava agenda", "Fascist agenda".

[@sivalikanand2718]

@@manteshsharma9351 These are are just the ideas of the ruling party...There are other parties which have other ideas...but the govt is in power by playing dirty politics and people are ignorant...but it doesnt mean that "Indians in general " are accepting the Bristish ideas....People are poor and ignorant.... It's not even their fault

[@manteshsharma9351]

@@sivalikanand2718 you just proved my point 🙂 We have a town named after Dalhousie. If anyone dares speaking against that, he/she already is put into some bracket. We all know what Dalhousie's legacy is for "Bharat". We have places named after Bakhtiyar (burnt India's most precious library), Ghazani (attacked, rasacked our most important place of power, worship and treasure), Iskander Butkishan (destroyed a whole legacy of India and indian'ness in Kashmir). Acknowledging this and systematically removing them from our imprints is decolonisation (like it happens in all other places. Bringing statues of Columbus in West is liberating and bringing Ghazani/Ghouri/ Khilji in India is fascism). Do you see this happening without being labelled as "saffron agenda"? If not, then keep beating the bush, it won't matter anything.

[@rudhisundar]

She (Arundhati) is agonisingly beautiful, although her views are so pessimistic about the idea of India.

[@rohanron9794]

This might be the best interview of Rushdie ever been🖤🖤🖤🖤

[@realDunalTrimp]

The Hindus hate Arundati as much as the Muslims hate Salman.

[@tbpp6553]

no not all hindus

[@nitaichandhalder6079]

Salman Rushdie is a sea of knowledge

[@proudindian9140]

a sea filled with shit

[@karwanekamran]

Arundhati is such a natural beautiful woman.

[@suryanarayanabegur2026]

Udayan Mitra...you are 100% right.....she is a leftist-facist-communist pig....she know NOT how to take pride in being an INDIAN... simple reason is that,her knowledge is so narrowly restricted, that she can come up with dirty-sided-novels-of-impure-fiction...does not care to study INDOLOGY.....

[@braveheart5376]

suryanarayana begur kandaaravozhi magane

[@meio4744]

You're a right-wing loony.

[@jugnu361]

Arundhati Roy please stop taking Drungs....then u can see the relity

[@paharipant2]

Yes...she is pleasant to look at. However, she does have some deep psychological issues going back to her childhood that make her what she is - an Urban Naxalite who thinks corruption is good , govt is evil, progress is evil, poverty is beautiful etc etc.

[@Nick-O-Maniac]

Watching this as India celebrates its 75th year of Independence and thing that deeply saddens is about the politics of hate remain the same more or little as exhibited in the video

[@clarion7018]

They predicted it.

[@anuran.chowdhury]

It intensified.

[@AmishKumar-lc7zs]

We failed in complete population exchange after religious partition in 1947. Hate and abrahamics are synonymous.

[@MUSICMANSIONWORLD]

What a great interview it was

[@varsha8592]

Few days after 75th year of India’s independence and the incident with Rushdie, watching this breaks my heart in a million pieces. We’ve not just lost him, we’ve lost Roy too, because we’re no longer a nation where this conversation could even take place, where the word ‘BJP’ could be uttered without a ‘Har Har Modi’ and not be followed by a boycott call. We’ve lost ourselves, or maybe this is who we always were. The jewellery a Rajasthani daily wager wears is not her grace; it’s her yoke. It has always been. My city’s growing emptier by the day. I’m thinking of leaving, too. I weep for my poor country. Ei mrityu upotyoka amar desh noy. Edit: Leaving this comment has been one hell of a ride. I’ve been called everything from Mamata supporter to Leftist to Congress voter to Bengali “intellectual”. Keep it coming folks 😂

[@varsha8592]

@Disappointed Idealist what gave it away? :P

[@samadritac1028]

Bangali?

[@varsha8592]

@@samadritac1028 Han

[@varsha8592]

@@nadlax5920 that’s why people are leaving at an unprecedented rate

[@niranjandhakal265]

Do you feel like an outsider living there? @Varsha

[@zeitgeist.84]

Watching this 25 years on with some of the criticism and challenges Arundhathy Roy and others mentioned there was optimism in the air...... ARR's Vande Matram was there in every school kids heart and authors and intellectuals could still write and speak without fear. Compare that to today after the 75th anniversary and the attack on Salman Rushdie, there is very little to cheer about Vande Matram is shouted without any affection and all the authors and critics have all gone silent. We have marginally better prosperity with substantially less freedoms.

[@zeitgeist.84]

@abc def the prime reason why we are in this hole and there isn't any semblance of any effective opposition in sight

[@MehtaKyaKehta]

ARR's Vande Mataram is among his least interesting songs. I suppose people liked it only because it's about the motherland.

[@PobitroMon]

Salman Rushdie was always ahead if his time!

[@ambhat3953]

hope he goes further ahead to graveyard soon

[@mainukalita3784]

wow.loved it.to hear about India in 3 dif perspectives.v enduring.

[@rohitr1381]

Salman Rushdie ... The great!

[@AshrafKhan-xv7uu]

Salman Rushdie is man of wisdom.

[@sam7748]

But you're NOT.

[@AshrafKhan-xv7uu]

sam7748 And what made u think, that you are?

[@sam7748]

Because I'm white and not brown.

[@AshrafKhan-xv7uu]

sam7748 North Koreans , Russians, and Mexicans are also whites.

[@sam7748]

nope...and bye

[@mokhdummushrafi5207]

I salue you arundhati, from the core of my heart. For, that you are a truly a lover of humanity, all mankind I mean. And you are very free, uncompromising and honest in your understanding of the perspectives of ugliness of politics and sweet cementation of the social content that prevails anywhere in human society be that in India or wherever. You are nowhere superficial or a pretender in respect

[@rohitrohan2009]

A jihadist will of course support another jihadist. It is in your blood

[@naiyayika]

Don't compare the both. Salman Rushdie is on a different league altogether. And he's TRULY unbiased. And I love his work. And Roy is nowhere in the scale where Rushdie fits.

[@nad1ax2]

Just tell me you have disdain for left activism. Having read both their works, Arundhati is arguably a better writer even though I’m not into her political disposition myself

[@itr8247]

@@nad1ax2 left activism that denies bangladesh genocide??

[@Lonestar10443]

Of course arundhuti is just your regular leftist woke but with brain, always with traditional catchy talking points with no depth. On the other hand, salman i think has restrained himself from going deep on issues as he finds it useless in talk shows like this.

[@Lonestar10443]

@@nad1ax2 lol salman is more critically aclaimed, awarded the best of the all the booker prize winners from 1961-2007, which includes arundhuti. Only people who can't understand magical realism will say this.

[@Pratip.]

Salman is a better writer than her. Saying anything else is just plain bs.

[@pshivali]

This feels very sad that for some illiterate goons we dumped our beloved son.Get well soon sir.India and Indians love you and are very proud of you

[@S_R_90x]

Even I agree with Salman...soon(in my lifetime), once Pakistani army relinquishes its stranglehold over major parts of Pakistan's foreign & domestic policies...once democracy in Pakistan starts to thrive...the leadership of India, Pakistan & Bangladesh would form a "Federation" of 3 large states. An Indian UNION of sorts. Or "UnPartition" as Salman said.

[@progyandas9650]

We need interviewers like this man today ... what a great host ! And the same exact problems exist today Interesting timelines !

[@Acting1972]

This is GOLD.

[@rohansawant6317]

25 years down the time India is at the center of the World politics and everybody is looking forward to India

[@janeswan1124]

26:25 "Immense grace...." So true of India 😇

[@siddharthabhargava9041]

Salman is always awesome. Keen analyser and the finest one to portray his perception in writing. 🕉️🙏🕉️

[@nad1ax2]

And the om emojis were somehow imperative to your comment?

[@dynamitebsb4520]

@@nad1ax2 he is giving his salutations to him

[@themaverick7707]

Roy looks flirtatious always 😆

[@sachinphile]

Arundhati Roy one of the few true journalist and writer mad respect for her work

[@pistonheadbiker3720]

QUIZ TIME : A CULT WHERE PEOPLE FOLLOW A 9 YEAR OLD CHILD RAPIST .....

[@Vsl2015]

Salman was more greatful of India greatness

[@umakantnadkar5057]

Arundhati as usual too desperate to establish her reputation of an Indian liberal and intellectual!

[@anujverma5036]

@@mohitpr5297 because of Indian jehadis feel fucked when they see salman

[@71espn]

He doesn't live here

[@KilgoreTrout-vo7uy]

@@mohitpr5297 have you forgotten the barrage of fatwas issued against him in India?

[@deepakb3005]

@@mohitpr5297 yeah that shows peacefullness of muslims but arundhati roy is still living in india and spreading venomous hatred about hinduism and indians

[@globalcitizenn]

One influential American who had always been interested and inspired by India was America’s most famous citizen, Mr.Michael Jackson who put Indian representation on American TV screens in his music video Black or White in 1992. It was the first time Indians saw themselves represented in the American, and because it was MJ, GLOBAL mainstream.

[@sophienoor1959]

What a brave, intelligent and truthful woman. A real force of nature.

[@0076jan]

A. Roy nailed it 27:12- I wouldn’t trade anything for kind of human relationship we have in India.

[@AmishKumar-lc7zs]

Audacity to speak After having a railed marriage lol.

[@mehrajdin3632]

She is a gem 💎.... And ofcourse my favorite indian author 💯... Love and respect from kashmir 💕💖

[@anshumansinha1970]

On a quiet day you can hear another world breathing...

[@thingsss]

Not an intellectual response but "OMG how beautiful is Arandhati Roy!?!?!" I'll get my coat...

[@atgwiuz]

8:00 he's talking about Akhand Bharat 🚩

[@nikhildeshmukh6221]

Problem is akhand bharat can be achieved only through love..........nothing except love......and nowadays people demanding akhand bharat are mostly hateful hindu nationalists..... they're as confused today as they were during partition with they want land but no muslims.....or to change them....again to change , you need love

[@AmishKumar-lc7zs]

​@@nikhildeshmukh6221They are neither hateful nor confused but rightfully concerned.

[@ShubhamBhushanCC]

Shame that a great jewel like Rushdie is not able to live in his own country or even his book Satanic Verses is still banned in our country

[@solivagantsat]

same happened with another gem of India MF Hussain...

[@rohitdalal49]

@Sachin Shambulingappa India doesn't allow dual citizenship with that of India.

[@vikrantsubakade9281]

@@fasttrack2214 one has to try very hard to sound as stupid as you did. Kudos to your efforts.

[@kushal4956]

@@solivagantsat this country has zero respect for freedom of speech that even slightly bothers them

[@sorenutpal6091]

Now he is stabbed

[@kurapatichaitanya705]

Salman Rushdie is our hero we need. We should protect him at all cost

[@diplodocus3]

Watching this in 2017 i.e 20 years later, it seems that the conditions then and now don't complement much. The only thing different & 'empowering' today is the Internet, which too seems to be misused rampantly. Why is mankind so stubborn?

[@canbot1]

The world as whole has gotten better in many ways and that includes the subcontinent

[@pulmodoc8950]

Can Bot dying rivers, stagnant air, explosive population waiting to take over china, rising unemployment..... U see a better side???

[@canbot1]

I agree with you on that the water in all the rivers will be replaced with sewage and they will all be stinky and foamy like Yamuna is today. People are good at making more people and the South Asia already has a much bigger population than east Asia which includes the people's republic of China. Unemployment will get much worse as automation increases did you see that add for ford's new assembly line it was mostly footage of robotic arms welding shit and eventually there will be no jobs for people driving those cars. Still as a whole the world has gotten better we can communicate in a more efficient way with the largest, ever expanding international network AKA the internet. Phones have gotten so much better people are much more capable of entertaining themselves because there are so many more movies and they look much better. We can communicate about the rivers that were and the tiny island nations drowning because of the rising sea levels of the polluted and warmer oceans. We are ruining the world but we are more aware of all the ways to hinder our progress in the wrong direction. Our ancestors are responsible for the world the way it is today but we have the resources to reroute our courses. The average life expectancy has increased, infant mortality rates have decreased and contraception is much more readily available and it is encouraged instead of being frowned upon. I know the first two won't help us with the population but we would still count it as a plus.

[@Viklaunceston]

Rushdie, what a great guy! Sad to see him express his anguish about not able to visit his homeland...Why can't he? Why are we so politically correct?

[@SD-fn2oe]

Arundhati keeps talking about the "cracks" in India and says that there isn't a single Indian who doesn't belong to some minority but then she ignores the enormous reality of patriotic fervour that runs across the sacred land of India, maybe Arundhati herself doesn't feel it, but the rest of the country does, whether she likes it or not

[@MysSo-r8f]

Agreed!

[@hindurashtra63]

This lady called Chinese funded "Militants" (Naxals) as "Gandhians with Guns". The People she referred to did not hesitate to skin people alive and torture them in brutal fashion.

[@rishabhsengupta2296]

Seeing this just makes me sad in 2019.

[@abhishekjoarder]

True!!!

[@KilgoreTrout-vo7uy]

Why, pray tell? Also, go read Eminent Historians by Arun Shourie. Might help relieve you of some delusions.

[@henridobbs2423]

Welcomeeeee to 2020

[@confusedsoul4746]

We have arnab goswami now

[@spacegirl8130]

@@henridobbs2423 lmao now after 1 month 2023

[@ByGulshan]

Finally when Arundhati had to say something positive, she talked about the depth of relationships, which contradicts all she said earlier. She continues to look away from all things positive about India with a passion. So it's important to follow-up her talks with a more balanced voice, like Rushdie offers on the panel here.

[@apieceoflife2732]

Exactly. She hates where she was born and it's not very unusual. But that doesn't mean everything is bad in India.

[@apieceoflife2732]

Exactly. She hates where she was born and it's not very unusual. But that doesn't mean everything is bad in India.

[@PhnomPenhProductions]

26:56 absolute truth. Nothing else, Just it!!

[@sagarchakraborty2928]

Pretty genuine & accurate perception towards India's distinct character. 👌

[@tarunkadian2]

Love how fearless Mr. Rushdie is 👏

[@ambhat3953]

thats why he ran away and got asylum...cool

[@thelibarandu3920]

@@ambhat3953 he was smart that's why.

[@ambhat3953]

@@thelibarandu3920 the reference is with being fearless....and ofcourse all crooked ppl are smart. I know that

[@thelibarandu3920]

@@ambhat3953 Yes that even Applies to your prophet.

[@ambhat3953]

@@thelibarandu3920 donno which prophet you talking.... prophets are only for desert cult people like the one salman Rushdie and a. roy is born in

[@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

I love Arundhati Roy!!!

[@ambhat3953]

commie traitor spotted

[@yaboivybez]

she was and still is such a beautiful woman

[@suryanarayanabegur2026]

of course....one should aknowledge it...the way she talks..very sexy.

[@manofthematch7193]

01.12 Invitation from the eyes. Slightly raising eyebrows not blinking

[@nikhilsukumar23]

I love Arundhati Roy but Salman Rushdie has a more positive and workable idea. And I feel Arundhati Roy wants to completely clean up India which is great but needs several years and people willing to try that first.

[@kasturiswami784]

When we are celebrating 75 th anniversary of our independence this interview made me think 97 looked very bright. The political situation now is veering towards fascism and majoritarianism

[@itr8247]

Better than the vision of arundihati who denied bangladesh genocide.

[@JR-ee4xf]

@@itr8247 She admitted it was a stupid/thoughtless thing to say. An excerpt from from her statement: My views on what the Government of Pakistan is doing in Balochistan and the genocide that the Pakistan Army committed in Bangladesh have never been ambiguous and have always been a part of my writing. Here, in order to keep it short, are two small examples. In my novel The Ministry of Utmost Happiness, published in 2017, one of the main characters, an Indian Intelligence officer, Biplab Dasgupta aka Garson Hobart, who has served in Kashmir, says: “It’s true we did-we do- some terrible things in Kashmir, but… I mean what the Pakistan Army did in East Pakistan-now that was a clear case of genocide. Open and shut. When the Indian Army liberated Bangladesh, the good old Kashmiris called it-still call it-the ‘Fall of Dhaka.’ They aren’t very good at other peoples’ pain. But then, who is? The Baloch, who are being buggered by Pakistan, don’t care about Kashmiris. The Bangladeshis who we liberated are hunting down Hindus. The good old communists call Stalin’s Gulag a ‘necessary part of revolution’. The Americans are currently lecturing the Vietnamese about human rights. What we have on our hands is a species problem. None of us is exempt.” In an essay called Walking with the Comrades published in 2010 and republished in June 2019, I wrote: When Charu Mazumdar famously said, “China’s Chairman is our Chairman and China’s Path is Our Path,” he was prepared to extend it to the point where the Naxalites remained silent while General Yahya Khan committed genocide in East Pakistan (Bangladesh), because at the time, China was an ally of Pakistan. There was silence too, over the Khmer Rouge and its killing fields in Cambodia. There was silence over the egregious excesses of the Chinese and Russian revolutions. Silence over Tibet. Given my views on what is happening in Kashmir now, it is not surprising that Hindu Nationalists are rushing to generate outrage over this exciting new/old canard they have dug up about my supposed denial of the genocide in Bangladesh and the deeds of the Pakistan Army in Pakistan.

[@JR-ee4xf]

Absolutely true

[@clarion7018]

Active fascism is worse than just passive genocide denial

[@Slutty717]

I think u cried after abrogation of article 370 bcoz that bitch said Kashmir is not part of India, she said one should be pm once but modi showed her this 🖕in 2019 and will again in 2024 , this majoritsrianism is far better than genocides in democratic nation, so fuck off and disperse to another so called democratic country, mind u no muslim country has succeeded in democracy

[@srijitabanerjee3626]

This is the time when the color of magic realism and the political reality get mingled up.....

[@srijita2070]

Right !!!

[@vikaspandey7053]

it feels good to listen to these talks. I loved arundathati roy voice and the way she speaks. Will watch some of their work, will benefit mental strength.

[@rahulbose4323]

This is just brilliant.

[@proudindian9140]

English coversation hai, kuch English me bol deta hu, cool lagunga - Rahul "bose D Ka"

[@chatur_boy]

Two of the greatest minds Modern India produced but instead of being celebrated, they are ostracized. Only because they have chosen to remain honest & couragous in the face of facism & religious fundamentalism. They don't deserve governmental pestering & attacks but our deepest appreciation.

[@abhinav.mishra17]

Arundhati feeds on carcasses of fault lines here and there. Rushdi, you are awesome.

[@dulalroy5407]

I admire both of them

[@VSM101]

roy his a wholesale traitor that called separatists ghandis with guns while shiting on ghandi in western media its obvious she hates India and hindus fuck her and fuck you

[@shineea91]

I feel like they can't be asked for Ms Roy is saying when she appears far wiser and reflective than everyone else in this panel. In short, they're not on her level.

[@sandeepchoudhary9530]

Nice interaction! Ms Arundhati Roy looks ravishing and talks sweetly though she struggles to find anything commendable about India. Rushdie's vision of a unified India-Pakistan, not politically, but eco-culturally, was a dream which we have abandoned for the time being.

[@apieceoflife2732]

I feel like Arundhati kind of have Stockholm syndrome.She would have liked British India much more.

[@alankarjoey258]

valour of arundhati is unforgettable

[@vigilwilfred2614]

A Roy is sooo right...even after 25 yrs same cards are being played n it shall till the end of time....

[@Destrobius]

Arundhati looked like an Indian version of Lisa Bonet at this stage of her life.

[@ryansta]

Arundhati is simply glowing, a true beauty.

[@ananyamalhotra9032]

I would have really lIked if you would commented on her prolific writing and empathetic way of speaking than conferring her with the compliment of ‘beauty’. I know you could have meant beauty as a neutral term but it certainly isn’t perceived as one.

[@ryansta]

@@ananyamalhotra9032 If thats how you chose to interpret what I wrote, thats on you.

[@presterjohn1697]

@@ananyamalhotra9032 Acknowledging the striking beauty of a brown women is a revolutionary act especially when one considers the fact that pink women are upheld as the gold standard.

[@rechanasivadasan1779]

Arundhati is such a disappointment. Almost juvenile in her whining. Thank God for Salman Rushdie, this talk was worth watching. 2018, ten years on and she is still whining in the same banal style.

[@sukumardutta9260]

The interview with the authors Salman Rushdie Arundhuti Roy and Barbara crossed the reflection on the Fifth anniversary of India's independence and it's cultural and political climate which is need to know for all