Mao's Great Leap Forward - Cold War DOCUMENTARY

Our historical documentary series on the history of the Cold War continues with a video on the Great Leap Forward - the Chinese industrialization plan enacted under the chairman of the Chinese Communist Party Mao Zedong, which ultimately led to a famine.
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[@artembiyun9550]

My grandpa served in the Soviet army, they’d tell them on the news “the United States stands on the edge of a great chasm” and they’d joke and say “They should come down here and say hi to us”

[@Scott-tw2jn]

Hahaha that's fucking hilarious!

[@orlandu2532]

@@Scott-tw2jn Well, I got another joke similar but from Vietnam: "Capitalism is on the edge of a great chasm, Communism is one step ahead."

[@MrArthoz]

@@orlandu2532 and Mao took a leap forward into it.

[@nickllanes8030]

Good one!

[@meeshu6156]

Don't want to be that guy, but I dont get the joke, lmao.

[@ChenAnPin]

China: The Great Leap Forward was a disaster. Khmer Rouge: Hold my sombai.

[@RenerDeCastro]

Khmer Rouge: *Bullies Vietnam, their own wartime ally and supplier, just because they were butthurt by them in the past, despite Vietnam being much more powerful* Yeah, the Khmer Rouge was just one huge OOF after another.

[@Monatio79]

China supplied the Khmer Rouge with weapons during their disastrous four year experiment in social engineering. They borrowed radical ideas, even using the same jargon of trying to achieve "A Great Leap Forward" or "Maha Lout Ploh" by moving the entire urban population to the countryside. Mao admitted to the Khmer Rouge leadership that even he could never have gone to such extremes.

[@ChenAnPin]

@@Monatio79 you know you've gone too far when even Mao is like "bro/comrade, that's too revolutionary"

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

It's even scarier when the name of that version is 'Year Zero'...

[@choppergunner8650]

@@Monatio79 Mao could have never gone to such extremes? Well, I guess he washed all of that 77 million's blood from his hands. Or at least he tried.

[@nborr258]

"Sparrows are bourgeois." -Mao probably

[@Otokichi786]

So, to this day, Sparrows decorate Mao Tse Tung's statue with a "layer of white preservative" for all to see.

[@chrisza9782]

"Sparrows are clearly anti-state intellectuals"

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

"Sparrows are reactionary, the live embodiment of the Four Olds"

[@lozloz7418]

@@Otokichi786 reminds me of wacking day in the simpsons

[@solomonreal1977]

@@lozloz7418 their sinful hearts we'll pulverize

[@thethirdjegs]

It is better half of the people would die so the other half could eat. Mao Zedong talking like he's Thanos.

[@joao_1986]

That's Comunist/Fascist dictators for you they think they are some fucking god that can do whatever they feel like

[@seanhastings4432]

It’s almost like Thanos was inspired by a recurring archetype found in human history.

[@johnl.7754]

From his later years pictures it looks like Mao ate a lot more than his share :-)

[@jewiesnew3786]

Capitalist exploiters replaced by communist slave owners.

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

Look up on Malthus and the Malthusian Trap. Thanos is all about the Malthusian Trap...

[@ZhangtheGreat]

My parents, who survived this period, had just one thing to say about the Great Leap Forward: "everyone who survived knows at least a handful who starved to death."

[@ZhangtheGreat]

@@Olav3D Nostalgia is a powerful force. As time passes, people tend to forget the disasters and only remember the good times. It's the same reason phrases like "make America great again" work; they feed off that nostalgia of how "everything was better back in the day."

[@fredleung616]

Yup my uncle is one of those that starved to death

[@EroticOnion23]

It affected genes on the short term too I think. My grandma was carrying my mom like right after the famine and I only grew to be about 1.65m; while my mom's older sister was born before the famine and her son is like 1.85m 🤔

[@rydz656]

Hilarious.

[@emilyzheng2908]

My grandma was a primary school teacher and had to watch her students starve to death. My parents weren’t born until 1964-5 but grew up hungry. My uncle has a scar on his head because all the brothers were fighting over one bowl of plain congee

[@BHuang92]

My parents survived it all. Miserable childhood for them.

[@gantulgaganhuyag717]

I feel for you! Nothing less than Soviet modernization efforts back in 1930’s! My grandgrand parents were sent to Gulag and some got shot. But things got better and then our southern neighbors got out of their civil war but followed by this tragic great leap backwards thing.

[@morisco56]

Shut up american spy, long live the CCP!!

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

@@morisco56 the cringe in this🤮🤮

[@mou6854]

@@morisco56 ah yes the Chinese man named Camilo totally lives in China

[@Vegas_Des]

Communism bad

[@albacorearcherfish8533]

My grandparents moved to a remote grassland in inner mogolia, just before the great leap forward began, to escape the diseaster. Fortunately, no one in my family suffered from starvation. In contrast, death by starvation is very common in rural and city area at that time.

[@FuzzyDunlots]

And that's what communism in China solved.

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

A great leap forward over the edge of a cliff.

[@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc]

Good one.

[@choppergunner8650]

They thought it was going to be a Leap of Faith, but... Nope.

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

@@choppergunner8650 No way any sane person would have thought it would. They tried collectivization earlier with failure, then the greatly expand it. They also had collectivization failing in the USSR 20 years earlier as an example.

[@choppergunner8650]

@@Nathan-jh1ho It's part of leftist persuasion tactics. Like: "Come on, trust me, I know what I'm doing. You trusted me before, didn't you?"

[@pierregutierrez9372]

I’m glad you guys have some sense.

[@FBI-ht4wy]

My grandma survived the starvation. She's from Gan Su province where the starvation was the worst in the entire mainland. She told me that the village she used to live once had two people found dead at the entrance of the village. They looked like a middle age couple. The patrols were sent to deal with the situation. They later noticed that there are flesh pieces missing on the man's lap. And the matching pieces are found in the woman's mouth. The villagers didn't know this couple. They assumed these two escaped from other places. Weeks later, my great grandma told my grandma to not leave the house. Because They heard rumor that some people escaped from other villages killed weak people and ate them. And turns out it wasn't a rumor.

[@madness8556]

Communism creates cannibalism.

[@chenyaolu4213]

Unfortunately, many people now believe it is rumors made up by CIA.

[@hansamunhito5695]

that's terrible

[@tylerhodges11]

Is the ccp pointing a gun at u head and made u lie 🤥

[@silentclown4307]

Wov I thought your grandpa was also died during the Vietnam war while having a fight with buffalo

[@CARL_093]

imagine your a farmer then the government deside you should produce metal than crops what do you expect

[@CARL_093]

@@your_averageboi9083 no bad metal production but thats a good one thats in there mind could be

[@shivanshna7618]

Just learn magic from Chinese hogwarts branch

[@CARL_093]

@@shivanshna7618 lol exactly

[@shaggybreeks]

Maybe you farmer school more learns how uses word-word. Me word-word google grammars me so what me cool so what corporation babylon dudes.

[@Andrescxli]

@@shaggybreeks Bro what?

[@CivilWarWeekByWeek]

And yet China never won a long jump medal

[@markuhler2664]

Low key dig, elucidated an actual laugh out loud.

[@DaveSCameron]

Shit hot with the ping pong though...

[@sangramsinghrajvi]

Really? 🤪

[@Mondy667]

Yeah with their low quality products and tofu building and their delusional ideology

[@blava3155]

What I learned from history is that if a plan has the word "great" in it, then it's definitely not great. And if a country has the word "Democratic" in its name, then it's far from being democratic.

[@brookxiaofengxiong8473]

Democratic People's Republic of Korea

[@brookxiaofengxiong8473]

and the so called "Great" Reset

[@seawingo]

Or "The people's republic". They're never for the people. 😅

[@ChenAnPin]

Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere

[@ItsGroundhogDay]

See also: Democratic Socialists.

[@waffle-waffle5416]

Mao's basically Asian Parent and Chinese people is the children who gets pressured to meet parents expectation, and the Soviet was that neighbor kids that were often being used as object of comparison "Why can't you be like him" sort of things

[@Dont_Tread_on_Me448]

Lmao , this was a very apt description...

[@Mr.Obongo]

Yup, we make up entire entities as a collective idk what im saying im high but i hope you get it

[@yuveex]

Then the kid dies of overworking, but then the parent said "Good! I have less mouths to feed"

[@strongocho]

best comment on the thread.

[@mahouaniki4043]

Except most Asian parents don't actually wanna kill their children, sorry I mean investment.

[@oldesertguy9616]

It's always the same old story with these guys that believe they are the smartest guy in the room. Surround yourself with sycophants that tell you what you want to hear, and then wait for everything to come crashing down. You see it in almost every autocratic regime.

[@rifroll1117]

Problem is that it’s not the big guys in charge who pay for their sins

[@andrewmckenzie292]

Kind of sad too that they don't realise when those same sycophants get the right opportunity they will turncoat on them or wait till their dead and change things with excessive haste. Always pays to be for you to be the moderator of your ambitions so others don't have to do it for you.

[@joriankell1983]

It's called a cult of personality

[@Poirecorp]

@Hani Jawabrah "Luck", or "convergence of multiple determinist factors that you have little hold on", however you phrase it, depending on your philosophy. The point is, it's really unpredictable, but they're not that different from you and me.

[@bizambo100]

@@Poirecorp Ambitious, narcissistic, ruthless, and immoral people tend to reach the highest positions of power.

[@andrewphillips8341]

Or "How to kill tens of millions without even trying".

[@cortster12]

And hundreds of millions of children before and after birth BY trying. This is always glossed over, due to the west's current nonchalant take on abortion, but these were FORCED abortions and infant murder by the hundreds of millions over a few decades. S

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

@@cortster12 actually a large state apreactice was needed to carry these programs out.

[@TexasNationalist1836]

It worked In the summer of 1958 but mao wanted higher quotas and that force the commune managers to fudge the numbers and some times the grain that was taken as a tax was the only grain that was available for the workers in the communes They also shot and killed sparrows that lead to bugs that killed more crops than the birds killed

[@andreiz112dn5]

It should be renamed "The Great Leap Backwards" The only domain , Mao's China had taken a great leap forward was in the death toll.

[@pierregutierrez9372]

Yep, Mao Zedong is trash. The one who isn’t though is successor Deng Xiaoping, he’s the one whom Chinese should really praise because he brought up a no-longer-isolated China alongside a capitalistic Chinese economy. In case nobody agrees with me, just look at China today... 🇨🇳

[@pierregutierrez9372]

@Crabman Coconut *Great Leap Backwards or Great Fall Downwards

[@jackmion]

@@pierregutierrez9372 Mao is an idealist and a general. Deng is a practical reformist.

[@pierregutierrez9372]

@@jackmion Yes.

[@febopennyficari8716]

@@pierregutierrez9372 Chinese capitalist economy, you obviously have no idea of what you’re talking about

[@chaitanyasaagar9895]

I remember from my grandfather's account ,that when he had fought in the 1962 sino indian war. A group of Chinese PLA soldiers once crossed the line and defected to the indian side . Their faces were filled with fear and many of them were shouting anti maoist slogans . They were filled with joy when the soldiers decided to keep them and offer them protection. They even picked up guns against thier own army.

[@danman6358]

lmao, what bullshit

[@adameckard4591]

Shows just how great communism is. If a soldier is willing to shoot their former comrades.

[@mikerueffer579]

*Mao standing in a rice field surrounded by dying peasants* Mao:"We did it guy's we saved china!"

[@cameronpatterson130]

1950-1980 was the biggest leap in life expectancy any modern country has ever experienced

[@gaiofattos2]

​@@cameronpatterson130 As the mortality rate.

[@MagSnapShots]

@@cameronpatterson130 Usually peacetime right after a great war does lead to a baby boom and higher life expectancy. China was in a constant warring state since the start of the Warlords Era in 1916, leading to the Central Plains War, to the devastating Sino-Japanese War, and finally the Civil War which ended in 1949.

[@magtagnobgabrielc.3307]

He saved china from Westerners

[@mikerueffer579]

@@magtagnobgabrielc.3307 How is adopting an ideology created by westerners, and then using it to murdering millions of your own country men is saving it from westerners?

[@yaldabaoth2]

Removed all sparrows as suggested. Now the bell button is bugged.

[@ZhangtheGreat]

O I C WUT U DID THAR

[@Gamerappa]

@@ZhangtheGreat ?????

[@SomasAcademy]

~3:15-3:24 There actually was evidence of Lysenko's methods being effective; the issue was that this evidence came from experimental conditions which didn't reflect Chinese fields. Deep planting is effective if you have deep enough soil, but Chinese fields mostly had shallow soil on top of a sandy layer, so deep planting didn't work at all for them. Planting crops closer together also worked fine in Soviet experiments, but all the seeds used in the experiments were closely related, and therefore didn't compete with each other in the same way the more distantly related plants placed alongside each other on large fields did. Basically, it was an issue of assuming lab conditions reflected universal ones.

[@marilynrich3456]

interesting. Thank-you.

[@MagSnapShots]

Thanks, I will read more about it.

[@godvonheaven2968]

Mr. Lysenko reincarnated, defending his methods?

[@SomasAcademy]

@@godvonheaven2968 Pointing out that Lysenko's methods seemed to work in lab conditions despite not actually working in real-world conditions is not a defense of those methods lol

[@antoniomh1061]

learnt something new, that's interesting

[@Zorglub1966]

Comrades! We are on the brink of the abyss! in order to achieve the golden goals of socialism, let's make a great leap forward!

[@jimmyrh247]

Mao really wasn't the sharpest tool in the box.

[@markuhler2664]

Maybe he was manufactured with backyard iron?

[@arya31ful]

Some...

[@ericc9321]

Mao was a pretty competent military leader but an economist he was not. You don't win civil wars by being an economist, though.

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

@@ericc9321 He was only good at guerilla tactics. Propaganda towards peasants did much more than his military leadership skills to help them win.

[@ericc9321]

@@Nathan-jh1ho Experience in the Korean War seemed to indicate that the PLA was effective at getting there the fastest with the mostest. I think saying that his organization was only good at guerilla tactics not only undervalues the importance of guerilla tactics in modern war, but does a disservice to the variant of deep battle style force concentration employed against ROC and UN forces. Leaving the ROC to do most of the fighting against the Japanese among other things was a major dick move, and I'll certainly not defend his political program, but comparing the PLA of the 40s and 50s to contemporary Chinese and east Asian militaries, the competition looks like crap.

[@stynkanator]

A great example of why an authoritarian dictator who can do whatever they want is detrimental to the people.

[@0witw047]

The PRC was, and still is extremely authoritarian, which tends to lead to bad outcomes, but Mao was definitely not a dictator.

[@WatcherMovie008]

@@0witw047 "Mao was definitely not a dictator." That real rich considering Mao worship and idolized Stalin. The Great Leap Forward was heavily inspired and base on Stalin's 1930s modernization plans.

[@cortster12]

Xi Jingping is the second Mao, and I fear history is repeating itself.

[@andrewmckenzie292]

@@cortster12 Xi came to power with a country far stronger though, he may not have the need to do massive projects to keep people on side.

[@mikerueffer579]

@@andrewmckenzie292 Unfortunately for Xi he's facing down several massive problems that have been caused by decades of communist rule. that will cause their economy to come to a screeching halt.

[@Jazzavi12]

Excellent, lucid presentation of one of the Worst calamities in human history arising from the relentless pursuit of one Man. How much incredible suffering the Chinese people endured...

[@mahouaniki4043]

My grandma and my father barely survived the great famine, "thanks" to live in a coastal town. My grandma have to beg the young PLA soldiers to let her cross the fence, so she can go collect some seaweed. The in‐land provinces had the worse and cannibalism was common.

[@ketsuekikumori9145]

The sparrows thing is a classic example of "Correlation does not equal causation!"

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

These footage are very heartbreaking. Wars, wars then famine china really suffered man😢😭😭

[@nationradical]

Same with Russia. Both went from imperial rule straight under the communist jackboot.

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

@@nationradical and russia suffered from both ww and civil war

[@verden2323]

Well with CCP cockiness here in asia I think these poor people are gonna suffer again

[@pierregutierrez9372]

@@verden2323 Yeah, damn those communists. Also, screw the ol’ “South China Sea” name, it should instead be called the “West Philippine Sea”.

[@fahadmohammad9179]

sadly by their own hands

[@MeanMachine1992]

"Let's kill the birds that hunt insects which destroy crops to increase crop yield!" Who's the genius that came up with that idea, I wonder.

[@Martijn_Steinpatz]

This is what happens when policy is guided by fantasy.

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

Communism when fantasy

[@patrickblanchette4337]

You could say that it’s..... a final fantasy😏.

[@elhistoriero1227]

And by a psychopathic leader.

[@csil2863]

Like the policy being advanced to run a modern industrial society on the fantasy of 100% renewable and unreliable wind and solar power.

[@Jupiter__001_]

@@csil2863 Yup, can't wait for immense rolling blackouts and brownouts after all the gas, oil and coal plants are gone, since the greens don't seem too keen on fission.

[@xHomu]

The backyard furnaces didn't just destroy scrap metal. In the heavily underdeveloped countryside, the poor peasants were forced to throw in ALL their metal tools and pots, further reducing what material wealth they have and exacerbating the famine. source: my grandma

[@popebryanii7224]

A friend of mines parents survived it. They said that it would be small rations of rice per day, along with around 1 gallon of water for a small family.

[@admiraltrung-ankancollepla2201]

*[This comment was been deleted by KZbin, with the supervised of the People's Republic of China. - 3000 credit point]*

[@arya31ful]

"Enjoy yourself as a meal, citizen!"

[@morisco56]

Dengist

[@underfire987]

Spot on the modren left Admires Mao

[@Marinealver]

Prepare for The Great Reset thanks to the Plandemic.

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

@@underfire987 Even some "anti-Stalinist" types admire him, or at least defend him on every possible opportunity

[@Vin-sv9fm]

*So do you leap forward?* China : Yeah *At what cost?* China : tens of millions of people, anyway check out my new factory! Also my people make too many kids anyway so I'll limit them to one per couple, it's not going to bit my ass in the future so everything's set! *Yeah about that* 😂

[@cv4809]

"Sir, your policies would cause thousands of deaths..." Mao: Millions...

[@Monatio79]

More like Mao's Great Leap Backwards. btw, I believe it was Deng Xiaoping who introduced the one-child policy in 1979.

[@canman5060]

I am one of the very few babies in China who survive by having my grandmother sending baby milk powder from Hong Kong !

[@canman5060]

@@Monatio79 One child policy happened at Hau Kok Feng time shortly after the death of Mao.

[@canman5060]

Yeah all these end products (suppose to be great quanity of iron and steel surpass the production from Britain and USA) all ended up in 450,000 tons of totally useless good for nothing pig iron.

[@MajorTomFisher]

This was a good documentary but I feel like the editors' could've chosen better music mid-way through Narrator: Children were separated from their parents and people were forced to live in communes, being told to farm and make iron with no prior skill Music: :)

[@krystalcz9251]

Ah yes the great purge you mean!

[@aadpiraat7126]

No that will come later

[@DannyMahes]

It was something like 30 million dead from famine at the end. The Corpse Walker by Liao Yiwu is a great way to understand the experiences of the people who lived through it. And yes there's cannibalism.

[@bluestrife28]

Thank you for these please do a million more .

[@katiempojer]

I just love this channel! Great Leap Forward was one of the biggest mistakes ever.

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

Are you polish

[@JavierCR25]

Outstanding video David!

[@team3am149]

Ironically, China today produces over half of the world's steel.

[@vectorialforce3173]

**Happy Mao noises**

[@TexasNationalist1836]

And it’s still shitty steel

[@POCLEE]

And yet they're still No.1 in steel importing since they still lack in ability of producing higher-ends steel for specific uses.....

[@thriftjunkgaming1670]

That's because china today is a state run corporation

[@HWDragonborn]

And that's only after they abandon communism and adopt capitalism

[@user-ov5zm5rz3v]

Chairman Mao:THAT SPARROW IS HARMFUL BIRD!!! Captain Jack: Yeeeeeeeeeeee~ Savvy~

[@repoilify]

These are some good ass videos. It hits my history fix so well

[@ianeons9278]

My cat is a huge Mao apologist

[@eugene7145]

lMAO

[@snowflakemelter1172]

Is it called Meow Zedong ?

[@MagSnapShots]

Thanks for these videos. Very educational.

[@Taistelukalkkuna]

Great Leap Forward. Like Wile E. Coyote running over canyon.

[@kristoforperkola6923]

I really like these videos. I'd love to have some context for the old films playing under the narration though. Some of those in this video seemed like some kind of collective punishment of dissident farm workers by their comrades. Be nice to know what was going on there.

[@pauljohnson271]

Great work. Keep it up.

[@PYRESATVARANASI]

Great video!

[@SpecterCat_]

Mao's Great Leap Forward? More like Lmao's Great Leap Forward.

[@ultimatevictory6522]

More like the Great leap backward

[@Andrescxli]

Great leap foward- into the abyss.

[@eetutorri8767]

Kinda surprised of the mention of backyard furnaces as that is one the more interesting things in this whole mess. Although I should point out that these backyard furnaces would only smelt iron as these primarily used wood to burn (24/7) they would not be hot enough to process it into steel. Even if iron was somehow good enough quality. Rusty nails don't make good material for smelting (or shovels, hairclips, scissors etc). Although I should add that after the furnaces were put out comission, chinese would still focus on quantity over quality when it came steel production and so during various wars in 1960-1990s chinese armored vehicles would gain reputation being build from "pig iron" (not that it was actually build from it).

[@rajghosh217]

19:32 isn't that the same excuse that thanos gave when he made half the universe disappear?

[@DailyDoseDocumentary]

From a 90% agricultural economy to overtaking the United Kingdom in Steel production in 15 years... Today, China produces more than 50% of the world's steel. Crazy.

[@1funnygame]

Amazing what capitalism can do for a country

[@shatterquartz]

If supporters of capitalism admit that modern China is applying capitalism, then it speaks volumes about what they think capitalism really is.

[@1funnygame]

@@shatterquartz Of course it isn't "Real" Capitalism just like china doesn't practice "Real" Communism. It's obvious how I mean that the state gave individuals more freedom to decide their own future. And through that freedom came prosperity. It's hilarious how your trying to slant advocates for Capitalism/Freedom

[@shizachan8421]

@@1funnygame I mean, China is capable of producing this wealth on its own through its unique models, western capitalist nations are fully reliant on extorting the global south to generate wealth.

[@1funnygame]

@@shizachan8421 The CCP is incompetent. Before the US started moving its industry to China the CCP were barely capable of feeding the people still alive after the "great leap forward" mass starvation. While their propaganda says they have a "unique model" it's their coping mechanism to overcome the fact that they only started prospering once the CCP had less control over society, and allowed foreigners to work with the Chinese people to claw their way into prosperity in their free economic zones. So that some of them could enjoy the prosperity which other Chinese people were already enjoying in Hong Kong and Taiwan outside the CCP control. The Chinese people are capable of many great things, but China has no future since the CCP murdered millions of children and left their country with an inverted population pyramid. Your other communist nonsense about exploiting the global south while every metric shows greater prosperity barely deserves a response.

[@zszs100]

Hey Cold War, if you are reading this, PLEASE do a video about Deng Xiao Ping and how he transformed China away from Maoism and arguably away from communism. I really enjoy watching all your videos and I really look forward to it, since you can't find much info about Deng Xiao Ping and economic reform. Thanks!

[@JonatasAdoM]

Remember to touch the bell icon, so you'll scare all sparrows away.

[@Yuhon100]

Good information about the Chinese Mao's Great Leap Forward. Thanks for sharing.

[@Crabby303]

What a complete shitshow, like pretty much every initiative introduced by Mao. How he managed to cling to power until his death I'll never understand; the guy was a block-headed blunderer and a total rotter. He made Khrushchev seem like a skillful political operator.

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

He nearly was kicked out of power, then he announced a "cultural revolution"...

[@andred7684]

It'd be way better if Deng Xiao Ping were the first Chairman

[@sbevexlr848]

I mean Khrushchev is way miles ahead better than the other Socialist/communist leaders in the western world

[@everything1023]

That’s because Nikita was a good leader.

[@87olvi]

That's because people like Mao, who lacks in intelligence but have a enormous ego, are pretty good on taking power and keeping it.

[@c.w.johnsonjr6374]

Mao: You can never defeat me. Sparrows: I know, but he can. *Enter Insects*

[@Pipipman2]

" Collectivism " is just a fancy way of saying enslavement to the state

[@TexasNationalist1836]

Yes

[@deadby15]

Anarchism is the answer

[@hortehighwind8651]

My grandparents from mom's side had to flee the country in order to survive because of this disastrous 'leap forward'.

[@coolwhip455]

Hitler: I killed 17 million people. Stalin: Oh yea well I killed 23 million people. Mao: Hold my beer

[@deadby15]

Churchill: 3 million deaths in only ONE year, in a SINGLE Province of Bengal, India, is not that bad, eh? Also, don't forget we created the first concentration camp.

[@shivanshna7618]

@@deadby15 few hundred thousand if not a million more in all other States so in total 4-4.5 million deaths by Churchill

[@HaiceeUSMC]

British Raj: hold my tea

[@Maperator]

Basically most deaths in ww2 could be traced indirectly to hitler, if not directly

[@1nsaniel]

They are not comparable as absolute numbers. Their deaths were in different circumstances

[@BountyFlamor]

3:24 "But Mao wasn't interested in safety. Mao was interested in proceeding."

[@tobiasglendenning7966]

This is why you can't just have politicians making all the decisions, at least listen to your economists.

[@ItsGroundhogDay]

You'd think we'd learn from history. We still demonstrate everyday we don't.

[@Oi....]

And our Scientists..

[@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc]

The problem is economists can be wrong as well. Not this time but definitely in others.

[@ItsGroundhogDay]

Depends what you mean by scientists. In the US, the first name that comes to mind is Fauci. He is first and foremost a politician. Nobody should listen to a word this hack says. Ever. And not just because it will change in a week.

[@GoTfan-eb8tk]

@@ItsGroundhogDay I'll trust him before anything Trump says.

[@CaptainAndreas]

Well Done!

[@Real_SkyRipper]

i laughed way to hard at that, kill bird, bird is gone, import bird from Russia? haha Genius!! this is the kind of thing i expect from a comedy movie not from relaity

[@Numba003]

Did they seriously think that backyard furnaces with melted down scrap iron would seriously contribute to steel exports? That's ridiculous. Thank you for another interesting dive into history! Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)

[@HWDragonborn]

With fervour revolutionary spirit, any crappy steel from backyard furnaces will have Krupp-like quality

[@hanzup4117]

I'm genuinely surprised that KZbin allows a video so critical of China like this.

[@Marinealver]

It will require Age Verification.

[@theoutlook55]

Why are you surprised?

[@davidw.2791]

theoutlook55 Because anything left of Reagan and Trump must mean it’s communist, duh.

[@stefanodadamo6809]

I didn't know KZbin was hosted in the Chinese Communist Party offices... /s

[@helloc5093]

Which universe you live in? In see all around people hate China and are racist against Chinese

[@solisrouge1899]

Great video, now can you do one about the Chollima Movement in the DPRK next?

[@ste6826]

向后飞跃！Great leap backwards!

[@teriteri1126]

大跃退

[@prastagus3]

Mao's realization of the Chinese Industrialization would succeed, not by his unscientific model, but via a hybrid capitalistic socialist model created by Deng instead.

[@WatcherMovie008]

Because unlike the Soviet Union, Deng saw how capitalism turned the US into the power factory machine that won the Allies WWII. Say what you want about capitalism and its flaws, but Deng knew without a doubt that China would not be able to survive economically if it stuck with Mao's communist economic ideas, which were base on Stalin's economic views.

[@mso2013]

@@WatcherMovie008 capitalism won WW2? Everyone was capitalist apart from the CCCP

[@WatcherMovie008]

@@mso2013 By the end of the war, all of the Allies except for the US and Russia were bankrupted. Britain was on the verge of collapsing, France was just economically broken, and so on. The US was the only Allied nation that manage to stay afloat despite the amounts of loans it booked in order to be the "Arsenal of Democracy". Russia didn't have to worry its economy because communism doesn't believe in economy in terms of monetary value (of course later on this will eventually bite Russia in the ass).

[@mso2013]

@@WatcherMovie008 maybe you misunderstood what i said, every nation apart from the CCCP was capitalist in ww2. the CCCP was still partly capitalist until the colapse. Edit: and why do you keep talkin about a nation that died with the monarch and came back as a fedration in the colapse?

[@edoardodalpra4742]

@@WatcherMovie008 in a way, Deng was very dialectical and very Marxist in his policies. You can't build socialism without going through capitalism before. Still, I'm happy to live in the "free" world, I'm happy to be allowed to say how wrong capitalism can be. The main mistake of every communist regime was being a regime.

[@JamesEvans-ow1wc]

... They wanted to increase agricultural production ... And got rid of the most intelligent farm owners ... Makes perfect sense XD

[@danielhunter6059]

It’s commie sense

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thanks

[@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122]

wait, you are here too??

[@janetleeadams7287]

I studied Chinese history off and on for many years. This period in the history is so incredibly sad.

[@user-df1ek5rc1h]

"Revolutionize the Chinese culture" huh?

[@joebidenisapedophile]

Does "The Great Leap Forward" really sound any different than "The Great Reset"?

[@KeithWhittingham]

I rarely give a thumbs up but you deserve one for that observation.

[@petermeter9890]

I can only shake my head, there's nothing to be said

[@neub4321]

There were incongruous scenes of childcare/nursing here. I noticed unsuitable background footage in another one of your videos yesterday.

[@cnordegren]

The title us misleading. It should be "The Great Leap Backwards"

[@Kratoz-ut2gq]

You should do a video on the cultural revolution

[@newworld276]

11:35 That some straight Thanos shit right there.

[@danielhunter6059]

What instrumental is the outro i always come back just to hear it

[@rdyplyr2141]

Thank you for these videos, I took 2 years of elective world history in high school and yet no one ever discussed communism in depth. Years later as an adult, I started learning about these regimes and was sickened to my stomach about some of the things I saw on the few documentaries I saw. I am not surprised at how Americans have been hypnotized by the allure of an authoritarian style of government that meets all of your needs: our schools suck.

[@ChuckChickenLegs]

I thought the same thing. The death till was nearly all of WWII combined and the destruction of property was worse, but there's barely a mention in history books. It's arguably the worst event in human history. Why not teach it?

[@misterpinkandyellow74]

You are lying

[@s1mplem4gic58]

3:13 Mao: *"that's one way of viewing it"*

[@jimmyrh247]

Good video. However, a couple of times the footage being shown didn't really fit with the narration, which distracted me from what was being said, so I had to go back and listen to it again. I'd prefer just see the narrator if there's any shortage of relevant old film.

[@pgr3290]

You know Mao is revered and fiercely defended by a majority of native Chinese peoples from my experience. Not from several dozen million families of those he knocked off mind.

[@pgr3290]

And you know, Russians voted Stalin as the greatest person of all nations in all history in a national poll conducted just a couple years ago. I'm serious. Is there some sort of blind spot? Surely due to the quiet, insidious whitewashing of history inside the relevant countries to try and salvage some sort of national pride or hide historical embarrassment. The majority of the planet sees them as despotic murderous dictators plowing aside anything and anyone in their path. Heroes in their own nations. Two sides to a coin I suppose.

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

@@pgr3290 No blindspot, just results. Mao and Stalin's "greatness" are results of insidious propaganda, cults of personality, and damn luck. For Stalin, the success of the 3rd Five-Year Plan, victory over Germany in WW2, the (near) restoration of Russian Empire borders and superpower status heralded a "golden age" for Russia that contrasts harshly with the reality of today. Also Putin styles himself after Stalin so there is a political bent to his popularity. For Mao, the Cultural Revolution defined his posthumous legacy. For most of the people, he is a god and the CCP find it difficult to discredit Mao without discrediting itself in the process. Hence the birth of the "30% bad" narrative. Even Mao's popularity is political with Xi removing Deng era criticisms of him from textbooks...

[@hominideoconsciente5523]

this is all about capitalist propaganda, you have a lot of books debunking what this video says, and other myths that are famous in the western hemisphere. People will say that they (Chinese and Russian) suffer from propaganda, but who say that is the one that is brainwashed by Western propaganda. Both Khrushchev and Deng campaigned severely against the image of Stalin and Mao, consecutively. Both maximized the estimates of "deaths caused by the leaders" and harassed their loyal followers. Khrushchev punished the Stalinists of the Party and Deng Xiaoping pursued and killed Maoists in China. Chineses today don't see Mao as a "god" (some 10% of the Chinese does), they surely condemn Mao for some actions, like the Great Leap Forward, the personality cult and the Cultural Revolution. Only 12% of the Chinese doesn't like Mao.

[@pgr3290]

@@hominideoconsciente5523 'A lot of books'. History might be written in many books by many people with many biases, but the damning truth of the barbarity is frequently revealed by successors in the states themselves. Privy to wider information. Stalin for example was attacked by Khrushchev and then when the USSR fell, ENORMOUS quantities of records and files were released and sifted through by 'capitalist' and nationalist historians that very much matched the expectation of witness and survivor accounts. We cannot be revisionists and deniers in the light of such hard evidence.

[@hominideoconsciente5523]

@@pgr3290 well, these documents that were revealed in 1991 demonstrate, for example, that Stalin "killed" fewer than 4 million people, in contrast to what Western historians say, about up to 50 million deaths.

[@chethanshajan9047]

The great leap forward is once again like all times proves that central planning and control of all means of production by the state without any consideration to individual liberty is bound to fall again, again and again.. People don't learn ig

[@greenkoopa]

Great Leap Forward, 2 steps back

[@Marinealver]

more like off a cliff

[@SaDclann]

Could you list your sources in the description please. Idk if you guys forgot to.

[@Eastmarch2]

Iron foundries is the backyard seems similar to building cities no one lives in and falls apart in scant years

[@xiphoid2011]

My grandfathers were a professor a businessman. They tried to tell the communist government what's wrong with their policies, but it landed them in a political prison for well over ten years, where they saw tens of millions starved to death, and then the cultural revolution destroyed even more lives. In comparison, the hunger and labor camp that my parents endured are nothing special. It is said Mao is the only person in China who grew fat while everyone else were starving.

[@FuzzyDunlots]

At the end of it all so many more Chinese had food in their belly then before the revolution. Before the revolution, China was hell on earth.

[@xiphoid2011]

@@FuzzyDunlots The 1920s were as period of rapid growth for China. Until Japan invaded. The first 30 years of communist rule were really really diastertrous for China. It only ended when Mao died.

[@FuzzyDunlots]

@@xiphoid2011your society and country for the last 70 have been the most genocidal and evil human history. The United States has destroyed hundreds of countries and killed tens of millions of people for capitalism. China had to convert from being a colonized victim of the United States into the beautiful project of success it is today. You people are crying about agricultural famine while speaking a language that destroyed 10,000 cultures and continues to destroy hundreds of cultures every year killing millions of people every year. On purpose because it wants to. Your meter for what is evil and what is not is broken and that is why I scream death to America every morning.

[@xiphoid2011]

@Good Baleada what are you smoking. I'm Chinese. My parents and grandparents lived thorough those horrible Mao era. You are so brainwashed.

[@FuzzyDunlots]

@@xiphoid2011 and then what? You fled to the heartland of white supremacy so you could live off exploited African children on stolen native land and scream across the ocean? If you're stupid landlord grandparents were so enamored with capitalism. Why didn't they move to Honduras? Why didn't they move to Africa? Why do you get to sit here speaking English on stolen land using a currency that cannot survive without African children living in poverty and chaos pretending you are living some sort of higher moral life? Have you ever made a land acknowledgment?

[@elaishh3533]

Mao: All erroneous ideas, all poisonous weeds, all ghosts and monsters must be subject to criticism; in no circumstances should they be allowed to spread unchecked. March 12 1957

[@ICEman_0204]

Madness... Absolute madness...

[@MyBoomStick1]

I can’t wait for the next video on the cultural revolution

[@daniclau10]

mix result at the best? it was a total fubar

[@brokenbridge6316]

The Great Leap Forward would've benefited more from more modest goals and quotas. Perhaps the tragedies would've been greatly lessened as a result. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

Blame Stalinist policies for that because it "worked" for them (and not admitting their success was a product of two failed drives and considerable American industrial and technological contributions)...

[@brokenbridge6316]

@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228----Those same policies also caused tragedy. I think that should've been more modest too.

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

@@brokenbridge6316 That is my point. Mao and friends were fed with the BS that are the Soviet Five-Year Plans, and all the lies that came with it...

[@brokenbridge6316]

@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228---And they swallowed them hook line and sinker. They should've seen through all of that and saw the tragedies these would cause.

[@ramennnoodle]

@@brokenbridge6316 I think those problems were already realized by the CCP in 1961. A lot of the Liu-Deng reforms in following years were mostly just dialing back the policies of the Great Leap Forward, things like reducing the size of communes, allowing more peasants to work on plots, less aggressive support for Lysenko, and decreased grain export and increased grain imports. By and large, the pressure on rural China decreased in this time and was given time to recover, while still industrializing.

[@freakyfriv]

Hey! I know that its irrelevant to the video, but can someone recommend some books and articles about the greco-yugoslav relations 1951-1961?

[@moonshadow7057]

And even worse: all this recent history has been completely forgotten by most Chinese people

[@BHuang92]

Not forgotten outside of China. It is wiped out of the history books in China, brainwashed the population into compliance.

[@CoolMan-ig1ol]

@Nikita Khrushchev Никита Хрущев Not exactly, he is controversial only for some of his economic policies. Else, he is still elevated as the great founder of prc and the Unifier of China and so on

[@ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e]

That happens everywhere. Here in America we have an ascendant nationalist, clown fascist movement consisting of people whose grandfathers were proud to combat the same thing back in the day 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️. What a world.

[@arandomchinese6706]

Nikita Khrushchev Никита Хрущев nah it’s not like that. Mao is still a god in China.

[@zszs100]

Its very funny for you to make such a claim so far fetched from reality as I am Chinese, and I can confirm you are totally wrong. You know very little about the country other than from the lens of sensational news. :)

[@rezak2]

The sad thing about this is that even to this say there are people who deny the failures and millions of deaths of the great leap forward

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

Enabled by Machiavelli: the end justifies the means...

[@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886]

Remember to Look before you "Great Leap" comrades.

[@johnbailey3351]

"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics." General Barrow, USMC. If Mao wanted to use his people to increase steel production, he should have realized that he had to feed them.

[@joshrogers7347]

"The culutural De-evolution" and "The great leap backwards"