Mao's rise to power in China | Vejas Liulevicius and Lex Fridman

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[@GnomesRox]

Yes! This is something that almost no one ever understands when people talk about Marx and communism. It's supposed to be born out of an already industrialized nation that has an abundance of resources and advanced systems of production. Creating communism from poverty was never in his analysis.

[@croweater1]

Like Venezuela?

[@p1xelshooter287]

so then it doesnt work lmaaooooooo most countries arent abundant in all its necessities

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

you can't create communism from post-industrial societies yet... but you can use it as a cult to rally a pre-industrial classic peasant rebellion lol...

[@GnomesRox]

@@croweater1 Like basically every country that hijacked Marxism for their own political purposes. Venezuela was wealthy yes, but that was from its resources in oil not from being an industrialized nation. What's even more sad is that they were even terrible at production in spite of that resource.

[@ethanfrye31]

@@p1xelshooter287Russia is probably the most resource abundant nation on the planet. China is no slouch in resources. When does the excuses end?

[@mikestewart4752]

“Cull ALL the Birds!”-Mao Zedong “Egg Fried Rice anyone?-Mao Anying “Me like left nostril most!”-Mao Xinyu “I’LL plan the economy!”-Mao Jinpork “China is safest county in world!”-Xu Ganlu “Corruption is rampant in China!”-Victor Gao “This is an isolated incident.” - Various CCP officials

[@voiceofchina1788]

misconception, a hundred flowers campaign was before the great leap which was resulted by crushing down the different voices or the hundred flowers.

[@jasonjean2901]

This guest doesn't know enough about Chinese history to comment on how Chinese view ideologies. Confucianism was never introduced into the Chinese culture widely in its "pure form" as described by Confucius. It was almost immediately heavily modified by Menacus and then by Emperor Wudi himself before ever being introduced to mainstream Chinese culture. It has also been regularly modified, such as during the Song Dynasty. No one ever really cared about what Confucius actually originally taught. As such, why would the Chinese care about "pure Marxism"?

[@MrSky10101]

Thank you for sharing this

[@hadenheldermon8971]

I’m here in the middle

[@mikehanson9497]

Something interesting I hear many people say (Chinese and non Chinese alike) is China has this ancient culture, 5000 years of continuity. Chinese culture was destroyed, erased, and reforged into something else under Mao’s reign and whatever China was before the CCP came to power does not even bear a superficial resemblance to what they were before it. The campaign against the Four Olds (old customs, old habits, old culture, and old ideas) effectively severed the link between what China was and what it turned into. It wasn’t just destruction of vases, paintings, manuscripts .. it was the wholesale reprogramming of an entire generation and those would couldn’t be reprogramed were killed. To use a more modern marxist phrase China is now “unburdened by what has been”. Ironically, for the CCP at any rate, the only link to traditional Chinese culture can be found in Taiwan.

[@Jin-o9u]

Bullshit. Taiwan lost it with their form of democracy. Mainland banish the serfdom system, the foot binding., and many more stupid old idees. Mainland more chinese than Taiwan will ever be. Taiwan can't even recognise what a women is. Lol. Some idee are stupid and therefor should be abolish. Taiwan has yet to abolish the feudal system. Mainland did 😂

[@Jin-o9u]

So Feudal system and foot binding is something to admire? Also you tell me how Taiwan has preserved the culture better than mainland?

[@dad_jokes_4ever226]

I'm here last

[@joshuabatterton6025]

Not 69 😂

[@jmcw9632]

i'm here at the top

[@paulhurst4445]

The single common denominator shared by Marx, Lenin, Stalin and Mao: galaxy-sized egos. Communism is the last refuge of the malignant narcissist. No surprise that dictatorships always appear in communism.

[@Jin-o9u]

I bet you even don't understand Marx!!

[@Jin-o9u]

. And dont forget Adolf, George Bush, and your founding father

[@jaripekkajekunen2713]

@Jin-o9u

[@Jin-o9u]

@@jaripekkajekunen2713 sorry my bad

[@GuyDownTheSt]

Communism fuels egotism

[@dylanappenfeldt2442]

This guy is Brilliant and 💯 percent correct! Thank You Lex

[@sophia8405]

Beautifully said

[@TrueDreeamss]

he is totally wrong

[@voiceofchina1788]

Mastery over Nature by sheer acts of will, disasterous attempt

[@OreoKing529]

Lysencoism is making a comeback in the West

[@leobatard]

Maoism is kind of a deviation of Leninist. Marxist revolutionaries like Fidel Castro, Che Guevara and Ho Chi Minh using Mao playbook. Stalin is a staunch Marxist Leninist and not too much like competition at all. He singlehandedly purge all the old Bolsheviks including Bukharin, Kamenev and Trotsky.

[@akxn2162]

so what do you think is the difference between mao and stalin

[@leobatard]

Mao is a hard-core Stalinist. As far as ideology. Their tactics is different. Stalin using the Party apparatus and bureaucratic framework to get power Mao the peasantry is the Vanguard of the revolution.Mao is more grassroots.

[@mikestewart4752]

Anyone else seeing the parallels with today’s leadership in China? 🫵Looking at you XJ.

[@dingus6317]

This guy seems like a sympathizer by his descriptions and word choice

[@gepvpr]

Elaborate

[@gilbertocamacho6769]

Don't forget Fauci science.

[@LucasBustamante1]

It baffles me how Lex can listen quietly to such bullshit without calling this guy out. Typical western arrogance.

[@sittibuathong8060]

I m here first

[@HeilwoodBeagles]

Good for you

[@serfandterf]

​@@HeilwoodBeagleshistory requires pioneers to trailblaze the way for the rest of us.

[@HeilwoodBeagles]

@@serfandterf 😆