How to play "out" like Scofield and Scott Henderson

A lesson about how to develop an outside sound like John Scofield and Scott Henderson on the guitars.
The concept has to do with using 4 arpeggios that come from the H/W diminished scale over a dominant chord.
On an A7 chord the 4 arpeggios are:
A with a #2 (A C C# E)
C With a #2 (C D# E G)
Eb with a #2 (Eb Gb G Bb)
F# with a #2 (F# G Bb C#)
Remember that those starting points spell an A Dim7 chord
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[@MrAcollett]

I have been chasing that sound for thirty years, bless you.

[@Fitzliputzli23]

Seriously, guys, with this video we finally enter "real deal territory". It is like the recipe of a magic potion that may only be passed from one druid to another. Thanks for sharing it with us regular Joes!

[@omko73]

This makes scofield the Obelix of guitar?

[@user-ec6ix9ck2k]

This lesson is GOLD!

[@winstonsmith8240]

Cracking. I know the diminished scale pretty well, but it often sounds like, well, the diminished scale. This takes it to a new level. Quite frankly...brilliant. Well done, and THANK YOU! ❤

[@boogjii]

this is the best lesson i’ve ever had. exactly what ive been looking for thank you !

[@MauriceBierhuizen]

How on earth could it be that I've been listening to Henderson and Scofield for 30 years, and never figured this out.... Hahahaa. This must be some secret jewel only shared between the greatest players on earth 🤣Thanks Dani, I know what to practice next couple of weeks

[@marbinmusic]

Hehe you’re welcome man. Check out more vids on the channel

[@winstonsmith8240]

Me too! Same. Hope it's going well. It's now at the top of my 'to do' lists. Unbelievable.

[@basgerritsen9669]

Another thing to consider is when Scofield is playing "outside" sounds, it's very often in order to "suggest" a different chord than the one that's being played, he's basically substituting another chord over the changes. It's not random most of the time, he can really outline some different chords. E.g. let's imagine he's playing a b-flat blues, when he plays a lick using a derivative of the b-flat diminished scale over the 4 chord or a associated chord, he's outlining the d# dim chord that's often subbed in after the second 4-1 change in a jazz blues. This is a really interesting thing to experiment with: try and outline a chord that's related to, but different from the one that's actually being played and you'll get some really cool outside tones that will still sound "right" to most people's ears.

[@marbinmusic]

Yup basically what this is about. Just finding those subs in the diminished scale

[@omarpervaiz]

Awesome! I've been asking jazz friends for something like this for rock players for years now. You nailed it! Tabs to go with it would make this a great go transition to jazz fusion lesson.

[@johnhahn1877]

Great stuff Dani! Ive not seen this vibe explained like this before. Brilliant. Jazz cats are going to put out a hit on you for letting their mystery mojo out of the bag😅.

[@PhillFest]

Fantastic and well explained. Been toying with diminished triads in my playing for years, but this was SO obvious! Love it! Thx!

[@marbinmusic]

Glad it was helpful!

[@williamboris8014]

Excellent, practical, guitar friendly explanation of the diminished sound and application!

[@MalcaratMartinez]

THANK YOU !!!!...... first guy I see speaking english to us illiterate blues / rock players :). This is GOLD !!

[@marianovico4933]

Your lessons are very good, so is your playing and sound,no speed for speed and meaningless notes but excellent choice of notes in the best instrument and best style ever...(guitar and jazz-rock fusion, all the best buddy and greetings from Havana Cuba.

[@gabrielkeam6106]

don't forget you can play whole tone and outline augmented arpeggios off the fifth which can move in whole steps for a cool effect

[@winstonsmith8240]

I'm just going to write that down. Thanks. 👍

[@bitcoinman9202]

Oh ya? I will redo test it

[@LeviClay]

killing it as always man

[@MrMjp58]

A superb explanation. The tone of the guitar is exquisite.

[@deaconfuse3850]

Awesome lesson, Jimmy Herring seems to do that a lot too. It is one of the most badass sounds to me for some reason.

[@randyhetlage9202]

all git guys do it

[@jakollee]

Yeah, I love the sound of the "outside" playing too and I'm a big Jimmy Herring fan! Another great one to check out is Shawn Tubbs - the licks he plays are crazy sounding but somehow they work!!!

[@kevinmunoz2004]

Subscribed! Love the vibe and explanation of your lesson

[@TheBluebirdsBigBand]

Good work thank you.

[@nakoshoko1]

Thanks for that lesson! Your playing is great!

[@electromatic2014]

I'm out of words, just amazing, thanks for sharing!

[@jcmd2473]

Great lesson!!!! you open my mind!

[@hervemerliet]

KZbin needs more vidéos like this one. Thanks a lot.

[@marbinmusic]

More to come!

[@user-ph8ur4mv1n]

Daaaaaummmmm that is most killer lesson its gorgeous mamma mi a!!!!!!

[@mikekohary1075]

Damn, that's genius. I'm gonna practice that right away - thank you!

[@Guitarmfig]

Excellent lesson, thank you

[@bnpapp]

I will be sending a contribution to your site... Enough for a fine meal and a craft beer or wine. Thanks again.. Carve on maestro

[@bnpapp]

Thanks amigao! Your lesson has created great pivotal point in my playing.... My taste and view for the guitars future is this.. Sco (red shirt Miles) meets ZzTop meets Pat Metheny meets Hendrix. (throw in the Dan too) and Danny you have made me a better Sco and Metheny inspired player thanks to those brilliant lessons of your

[@JOVO1971]

Very cool idea, thank you!

[@stevengrinold3203]

Awesome Dani! Thanks for this

[@markjacksonmusic21]

Amazing man! Thank you for this. So simple!

[@chrisbrennan9173]

this will be added to my repa trau. thank you!

[@jazznerd3823]

Great lesson, man.

[@RonaldoAguiar]

Great lesson! Thanks a lot!

[@jbowerman50]

I watched Scott Henderson explain this, and he made it Very complicated. But I get it now , a triad on each note of the dim with a #9 added

[@triclone123]

So good! Thank you!

[@MrYevis]

Thank you Dani this is wonderfull. Love your tips !

[@zziemka]

best guitar solo lesson ever seen ;)

[@7wheels]

Thank you so much. 🎸🎶

[@stevengrinold7631]

Awesome as always Dani! Thanks!

[@joelgueller2979]

hi Dave great information toda rabba

[@kevinmunoz2004]

I kind of understand , will definitely be studying music theory to be able to fully understand the concept . Would love to be able to add this to my playing

[@jamesfarrington9030]

You have a very distinct sound coming out of that Strat. Nice phrasing, too.

[@victoza9232]

0:28, 0:32 Stank face is a must to master outside playing. I think that, for those not entirely familiar with outside playing (but who have mastered stank face), it would have been more helpful to have provided a chordal accompaniment to illustrate how particular note choices against certain chords create the outside sound.

[@Bigmouthstrikes82]

THANK YOU

[@user-qi2zt8nr9u]

Cool! Thanks!

[@superflysoulbrother]

Can't wait to take this to the woodshed!

[@danqodusk8140]

Pretty cool. I've never heard anyone refer to a flat3/ minor third as a sharp 2nd.

[@14369164]

nor I in this context but valid all the same,great lesson!

[@miguecast]

Thanks, man!

[@gregchambers6100]

That's so freaking cool.

[@garthirving1056]

Excellent lesson...

[@guitarleejonshon4025]

Very thx for the tips!!, I love that Mr Henderson's way. \m/

[@dominicdemercurio7933]

Brother THANK YOU!

[@stringtheoryx]

Really nice concept and presentation! You get a very good 'transparent overdrive' sound that's appropriate for what you're playing. Can I ask how you recorded that?

[@leifkeane]

I want me some of that!!!

[@aurimasgalvelis]

This is cheat code! AMAZING!

[@benjasep66]

muy buena explicación, necesitaba ver este video, :), y además muy genial la Marbin, saludos desde Chilee

[@agent_o_range]

That’s a sweet looking guitar!

[@PedroSilvaMusic]

Great job!!!!

[@cutronixxx]

?!?!?!? 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮 You made it so much simpler to approach. This and your gypsy jazz arpeggio lesson. THANK YOU. Thank you for all the other stuff too. Yikes

[@marbinmusic]

You are welcome. Tell your friends

[@cutronixxx]

@@marbinmusicDamn right, I did.

[@cutronixxx]

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[@marbinmusic]

@@cutronixxx sure email me at [e-mail]

[@felipeeyer4481]

Thank you!

[@scallopedshredify]

Too damn good thanks for another great lesson! Love Marbin

[@praxitelisnikolaou9764]

Awsome stuff!

[@Swizzenator]

SICK

[@VintageBassArchive]

ive been noodling cuz i forget to bend!!! yikes. now i wont screw up my second note when i try and do gypsy jazz.. thanks to seeing you bend just now EDIT: i play bass only, have you heard Scott Henderson 1995 THE BIG WAVE? live in israel (1440p version on my channel)

[@davidsmithweck2412]

Can I do this with a capo? ha ha just kidding!! This is solid gold!! Thank you for this!

[@wolfgangcordsen3430]

Hey very nice lesson mate!

[@Local-Bus]

Thank you for this easy to understand lesson. Question: this concept is for a minor chord thats also the root of the key but not if it's the II chord of a II-V-I for instance?

[@falschnehmung]

triple gold ... ! Tnx !!! 5 THUMPS UP !

[@marcusgandier3913]

nice

[@NotYourTypicalNegro]

Listen to Scofield with Pat Metheny on the album "I Can See Your House From Here".

[@waynegram8907]

Make more Scott Henderson Out of key notes lessons

[@mattf9076]

I just ran 3 red lights to get home and apply this to my..........keyboard.

[@FreakyBr0]

be safe :)

[@PJohn-gc8xv]

Police may be watching this.

[@jimbob6th]

Iconic comment

[@jaroneaton8023]

Yes, yes and yes!!

[@pablouuuu]

Killer sounds!!!

[@tboyz1]

#2 🥰

[@fernandoflores4907]

Daaaaamn!! 🔥❤️

[@brianj4090]

This sounds great. So, would you say this is a strategy for dominant chords? Would you do the same for minor since the A dim arpeggio has a flat 3rd?

[@marbinmusic]

Yes ! You belong on our Patreon! Lots of tabs and examples of this stuff!

[@antonioberuff5033]

Nice

[@BrianKlobyGuitar]

Most awesome

[@nondeblah]

yeah. that's my vocabulary

[@Cordmichael]

How do you associate the sound and the interval?Any practice suggestion to master that? Thank You.

[@emadnejati7620]

When I want to play outside I usually go to the nature

[@wantfnjones]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯

[@sylwestersosniak220]

♥♥♥

[@agamhamzah2924]

Very inspire, is your style not Henderson or Scofield 🤟🔥

[@ucciosoro2169]

Fa# con un #2 (Fa# Sol Sib Do#) i'm wrong or should it be (Fa# La Sib Do#)? Thanks

[@creator2986]

Fucking incredible

[@LydianLunch]

Whoa. The secret.

[@alessandrograsso8570]

Another way,i think the First way to consider Is " 12 chromatic approachs by Charlie Banacos for all the family chords/Arpeggios.He plays(like Sco) enclousure arround the root notes and he Is a Great Explorer about different Arpeggios voicing to other kind of chords.This Is usual from Who comes Berklee school,DiIorio school but It Is not new approach....Bill Evans was a Great master! Other think Is the altered scale(superlocrian)...This scale had "2 spin",First part like e semi diminished scale and. Second part whole tone scale! But anyway he think about chords and not scale,he doesn't play in position....and This is a Great problem about rock Guitar players that want ti start play jazz/fusion. Same approachs Is from Frank Gambale

[@bnpapp]

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[@marbinmusic]

yup PayPal.me/marbinmusic or Venmo to danirabin

[@bnpapp]

Transfer just completed...cheers mate

[@paulmurin8398]

There's no possible way not to make stankface when you play this stuff...it's literally inevitable.

[@hansmeissner734]

Another typo: G is not #2 of F# (recte: A)

[@nmmn939]

not bad😀

[@travelerworld4212]

That sounds obvious now thanks

[@eiiiotrodger6279]

Good tips but I'm confused why you say "triad". Shouldn't the A minor pentatonic get a minor triad, and doing what you're saying adding the 3rd for the Blues, instead of the other way around? Or I guess it;s the same idea just different way of looking at things. Either way thanks for this good tip I will subscribe so you can get some money.

[@justinpaquette224]

Would you still use half whole dim on a minor key, like Dorian? Or would you use whole half dim?

[@billwilkie6211]

Whole half

[@Tocesz]

It works, if You wanna go outside.

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

my method is to play notes that aren't in tune

[@ShpookyMetal]

Vai entered the chat

[@johnpick8336]

Like Victor Wooten says "You are only a half step from the right note".