11.1 Changes to M+? Well… New Dungeon IS BRUTAL

[@daethmer7834]

Why they are designing this for 1% of the playerbase I will never understand

[@SNSTR]

You mean 0.001%

[@philmehrart]

I totally agree and I said this in another vid. It's great to have some difficulty and I get the people on the side of "Don't be a crybaby, git gud", but the whole point of an MMO (at least for me) is to try have players of varying skill levels be able to participate. I don't mean to dumb things down and make it brain dead, but people are quick to roll their eyes if you suggest M+ is even remotely too difficult. There's a reason a lot of people have said it doesn't feel good.

[@Thrall966]

The issue is, there is little % of the player base that does m+ and we casual m+ers are a majority of that % and they are tuning it for the top players . But this is why we feel unheard because in reality most of the people clear normal and do heroic dungeons and m0s at best while collecting stuff and doing world content , now they added delves which fragments the m+ casual playerbase even more . This is why it feels like it’s tuned for top 0.0001%

[@Thrall966]

We are basically the loud minority . Or in sense the loud majority of a minority

[@UltimateGamerCC]

they're trying to accommodate for everyone, but seriously the 1% should be ignored, as they are the most toxic of all players.

[@seth7862]

The "swirly" replacement is reminiscent of Wildstar - I'm glad they made this change. Make the mechanics VISIBLE. This is such an amazing improvement.

[@MarcelianOnline]

yep, very good change!

[@D2Mephisto]

45 mins ago there was a blue post with major changes / nerfs to dungeons like priory of the sacred flame. no more mortal strike from arathi footmen! cast times on mobs have been increased. tank busters were reduced or removed. W changes! not saying all is perfect, but I love to see blizz listening to concerns. have to thank ppl like you Marcelian for all your videos and coverage on the unfortunate state of dungeon gameplay and M+ in wow. thank you so much man, you're helping make our game better. appreciate ya man

[@philmehrart]

I'd be less surprised if Jesus himself came down to earth and offered to boost all my keys to +15..... Blizz actually listening? Never thought I'd live to see the day

[@michaelschmidt4401]

As a casual player myself, these videos remind me why I never play M+. Overtuned or not, my brain just can‘t keep up with all the stuff going on at the same time. 😂😂

[@UndercoverCracker]

Yes I want to enjoy my time and not have the game be a job.

[@MarcelianOnline]

damn, maybe they need to listen to players like you more

[@americanmambi]

You need to start slowly and allow time to pass. You will be amazed how much you can improve!! The top players are not there because they are "special"... Mainly, the only thing they do that most of us can't do is spending 8-12hrs of practice on many days of the week!!!

[@kingkmtso5107]

I just pay for boosts lol

[@späsitel2]

@@kingkmtso5107 thats kinda sadge, m+ is literally easy shit, i never played pve much last time s1 in SL, i was full time pvp player, this season i hit 3k rating as it was nothing, why would you ever pay for boost, is that enjoyable be there and be carried in easy part of wow?

[@Kaynos]

When you are forced to play WOW from a top point of view to be able to see everything.... Wow is now diablo ?

[@eternallegacy89]

Diablocraft

[@Zandalorian]

"We've heard your feedback, and we will improve for s3. For now, we don't plan any changes for m+" :D I'm just writing this like a bingo card cuz u know its coming :D

[@stevox1904]

lets see how much the ptr builds will change or if ion was just yapping again

[@hameed]

Probably just yappin

[@michaelmoran2125]

I'm hopeful just hit 2600 rating and loving m+ as a lightsmith AC hpal.

[@MarcelianOnline]

fingers crossed here!

[@stefanstanculescu1133]

we traded off immersion long time ago:)) the circles are the smallest part from the lost immersion

[@MarcelianOnline]

trueeeee :DD

[@That_kind_of_orc]

Blizz doesn't only want m+ to feel like a nightmare they also want it to look like it with those saws straight out of horror movie

[@teej143]

Ion never learns. Fire him.

[@jigsaw6954]

Been saying since BFA haha like yelling into the void 😂

[@nucleartickz]

nah that shredation is a spell that everyone has to run ahead of time before cast finishes, it shreds ... quickly! xD looks amazing, cant wait !

[@gordonwong3125]

The high contrast will help those 1am M+ runs half asleep

[@Snuzzled]

Wait, wait, THIS is how I am now learning how to say Nymue? We always called her Nigh-moo.

[@shoresd1]

So basically exciting new dungeon= do other dungeons as high as possible so you can do this one as low as possible to reach you M+ rating goal.

[@Lorkinette]

The shred is surprising at first but in fact it's a cast, pops under everyone and ticks after half a second, it's not that hard to dodge once you're used to the mechanic.

[@EmmaJimmys]

Your channel is not just a place to watch videos, it's a platform for learning and personal development. Keep up your important work!🙏🐢🏆

[@murrloc1859]

i just hope they decide to work on dungeons and not nerf prot pally , instead focus on the less popular tanks and healers

[@MattG5050]

instead of buffing the underperformers they always nerf the classes that feel good to play.

[@ZK-sz8vs]

the mechanic of "spawn the thing directly under the players feet" has always felt so cheap to me. weather its endless swirlies or knock ups or now these buzz saws. it says to me it doesnt matter how well you position or know the fight, you're going to need to constantly interrupt your casts. this is not something i experienced pretty much at all running every dungeon 1-80 when i was playing FF14. i cant remember any other than the occasional spread out or stack up markers, which were more of a team mechanic, and their occurrence in the monster or bosses rotation was usually fairly predictable. also now that we've taken FF14s ground markers, can we take their tank buster visual too? i shouldnt need an addon or stopping to read a whole ass dungeon journal just to remember for every single boss in the entire game which obscure, randomly named grey move is going to 100-0 me as a tank. give busters a generic visual warning

[@pikus4392]

Flame, where is da sweater? New dungeon by Ian - he makes this less brutal for players, oh wait.... We got new visualization of swirles - this is major change he was yaping all the time - we should be thankful for him, it is so easy now!

[@hellothere8812]

This patch is looking like a complete banger so far. Only thing left to see is the raid need it to be good, especially in my opinion the last couple of raids have been very meh.

[@canihasname]

Shreddation has a cast showing its coming.. plus an audio and 2 visual clues... its the exact same as bramble burst in mists. This isn't hard at all.

[@SillyOne90]

And....Going to see those sub numbers tank because the Devs think they are smarter then the players.

[@leaverpool8059]

So much of a disconnect, whatever they can say in interview. They received month of data and feedback, month of decrease in population, month of complains and blocked meta. What do they do? Keep going head on into the same wall... How do they expect us to be happy and thrilled about this? Everything around 11.1 is a sh!tshow, how can you not give any classes updates in a PTR full with blunders and useless changes. I mean the only thing they have right now is the artwork team that is doing a good job, everybody else is failing miserably, time to wake up and maybe replace some of these heads that lead nowhere!

[@tuomopietikainen4506]

Seems like perfect dungeon for holy priest. Need to move all the time while healing which can be done while standing still. Oh and sarcasm...

[@markuslc1888]

any idea when the patch will go live? end of feb? middle?

[@thunder9236]

Blizz, wants to get rid of addons, then makes so much shit you have to track. I honestly might step away this xpac. The last time I took a break was shadowlands.

[@PainterP]

Favorite WOW channel all of 2024 Good stuff flame and marcelian!

[@Phalaenopsislol]

I'd rather have overtuned dungeons in a testing enviroment and just KNOW they'll get nerfed later on than playing undertuned dungeons where tanks do MDI pulls and eveything just dies and you KNOW these will be buffed later on

[@tymeixsell1241]

Timer will be replaced in favor of a death counter eventually anyway. Might as well sit out S2.

[@lightningx_X]

1:34 ... lol this is the part where u say that its a bit cartoony ... the rest of the game isn't ... just this .... have you even played the other mmos out there. Wow is by far the most cartoony :))))

[@AngryZealot]

Hopefully season 3 will be like Dragonflight's and where people can come back to just chill and push content. Definitely gonna skip out healing this time and wait for the next cycle.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

the cartoony swirlies are definitely a necessary change. may not match WoW's aesthetic, but we need to be able to see the swirlies somehow, and i'd rather have functionality over Graphics. i mean hell, i'm playing a 20 year old game here, Graphics are obviously not high on my list of priorities.

[@donatskorday1222]

I played only healer since WOW coming out. This is the first time when i not enjoyed the heal gameplay. Not fun to me. All mistake is punishing, too many things one time and constans high aoe damage.....so, i leve this game, because this is not fun to me as healer, and i want play for fun.

[@L0rks]

Hello there, General Kenobi. Thank you :)

[@synthbrain3173]

hope story with Tinker will go forward and not only dungeon Boss

[@soxxy5837]

is there colorblindness option so i can change it

[@syxqid3818]

The dungeon looks great, makes fun and have something new. And the scaling is normal. They do this 1 or 2 weeks before release like every patch 😅 the new animations are good, was time to make them better 😂 and if i look at undermine as zone its absolute perfection. So it would be the perfect place for tinker class and some more updates to customazing youre gnomes, mechagnomes & goblins 😅

[@stankweezul5715]

I play Ret so melee to medium range but....how is a caster supposed to enjoy moving every second to avoid some 1 shot mechanic? When do you cast? And this new dungeon was not designed with fun in mind, it was designed with making M+ as miserable as possible. All these crap mechanics plus seasonal affixes is gonna make this a chore and causing even more people to leave M+.

[@briancamp4302]

You think this new dungeon is bad. What til people hit Theatre of Pain in M+.

[@riddert4966]

Somehow SL s1 was more enjoyable than TWW s1

[@philmehrart]

I feel like one of the very few who like ToP xD

[@misskill33]

those blades for healers and casters will bee ... ULALAAA :)) i love to play M+ , but i think at this moment are all stuff going on the SAME TIME .. in the past was like " in 3 sec all need to jump " , now is " in 3 sec jump , no go right , fuck left , aoe is coming" .. bro :)) sometimes is funny but most of the time , nope :)) especialy if u have a team who dont use theirs KICKS and CC ..

[@atreusduvelll600]

Yes the dungeon is hard, but it's still early days. People need to calm down about the state of the PTR lol

[@SimonCoulton]

People repeat that line every patch (it’s just alpha, it’s just beta, it’s just the PTR), and every patch we see evidence of Blizz not addressing the feedback.

[@atreusduvelll600]

@ I would have agreed with you a while back but they have shown a big change in the way the receive and act on feedback in the past year or so. It’s also important to note that PTR isn’t on a nightly build. They have already said the PTR is way out of date from their development environments. Here’s to hoping there are some good changes on the way

[@cosmicz3ro]

​@@atreusduvelll600meanwhile they've been ACTIVELY ignoring brewmasters for YEARS! Only now they're openly ignoring the spec it's shameless.

[@gymlife408]

Hmmm …. I’ll just wait for a patch that seems fun . Which is what games are supposed to be .

[@christophercampbell3946]

Wows problem is they are to far gone and NOW! THEY ARE trying to make to many people happy .

[@davidw.5984]

hey look thats soooo warlock crippyly-low-mobility friendly

[@Archangel_MA]

I feel bad for the healers man.....this is just to much

[@christmasham4312]

wtf are those saws!!! Nope ill wait tell season 3 😂

[@Cynicfennec]

The mechanic is going to change, obviously

[@lightningx_X]

9:28 ... yes yes, dificulty ... i bet this will be nerfed by the time it hits live :(

[@megaplymega6678]

Blizzard hates healers

[@stefanossepsas7985]

Plsss everyone unite and cry to blizzard about prot war pls

[@drpeppaerdrpeppaer5434]

You don't have to do keys higher than 10 or 11. Just because no life try hards push 17s doesn't mean you have to. Also try hard no lifers who can only do keys on broken op specs

[@upperdecker9992]

The whole game is cartoony lol

[@TheBlessedone37]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭☠️☠️☠️

[@mr.fetching2267]

L Take on the swirlies, when there is are color blind modes.

[@OliverKearney-gc8nz]

First again??

[@smethupload]

First

[@bananagoose1224]

first to comment, last to get laid.

[@LindaTristas]

Your channel is a place where quality always comes first. Keep making us happy with your masterpieces!⛸🚖💋