Marcus Miller w/ Miles Davis "Fat Time" Live 1982

[@travel_and_explore_with_BIP]

This is what got me into music back then, I happened to hear Fat Time played on radio, Stern and Marcus influenced me! Miles “Out” playing! I studied sax at the time, but because of This knew I wanted to be a bass player, so 4 years later I switched to bass!

[@unclerho8388]

Marcus was 23. And already REALLY killing it!!!!!

[@scra2et6]

ikr!

[@bjornnordstrom]

Yes really! And influenced by Jaco Pastorius!?

[@billneath3273]

Mike Stern is a wonderful Guitarist, he's top drawer and has been around a long time.

[@rillloudmother]

Al Foster is pounding like a metal drummer on this one. More evidence that he can play anything and sound great.

[@MichelGERVAIS-fu4mu]

Évidemment c'est un des plus grands...

[@catboyzee]

I think Bill Evans presence in the group is very symbolic. To me Bill Evans playing style is indicative of the stoic, statuesque, resistant-to-change nature of traditional jazz. To counter that Miles brought in high-energy young players who knew how to play rock, funk, all with an understanding of jazz. It was Miles plan of the breaking down of the barrier that the traditionalists had built. Miles Davis is a poster child for non-conformists everywhere.

[@rafaelsg7964]

except it's a different Bill Evans in this group (not the piano player you were thinking about)

[@OldRunt]

Symbolic

[@luke125]

I really loved this particular band. Al Foster is deadly 💀

[@tipsylibrarians7764]

I just went to see Mike Stern and Bill Evans last week. Spoiler - they were smokin’. Rhythm section was Dennis Chambers and Gary Grainger

[@jsilence418]

Mike " Fat time" Stern with a Strat hmmm . thanks for posting .

[@holygroove2]

This is unusually fun for Miles Davis. I like the main theme groove, and the way he's playing here. Good to see and hear.

[@KnowKnot]

Beautiful Stern solo. Love the in and out of the walking groove with Marcus at 8:28 (etc.).

[@22fret]

I always thought MM was born with his hat...

[@mixxwire4758]

He was. Took it of out of respect for Miles on this one. LOL

[@silverdroid]

@@mixxwire4758 Like most, he only started wearing it after going bald. Started with a baseball cap in the early 90s and then transitioned to the hat.

[@ernestcircus6101]

@@silverdroid Very interesting comments here ! All my life, I was looking for such musical comments ! Marcus Miller didn't wear a hat when he played with Miles. It is absolutely fundamuntal to know that !

[@silverdroid]

@@ernestcircus6101 At "Under The Sky" in Japan 1990, he wore a baseball cap, but that was for his "Marcus Miller Project". Miles died the following year.

[@ernestcircus6101]

@@silverdroid Thank you very much for this valuable information. And did Marcus also wear a mustache in 1990 ?

[@hahabass]

I'd really like to hear Marcus 'play bass' again. I love his 'lead' stuff, but a work with him as the back bone again would be great.

[@tonewall1]

he did what he was told.

[@brothermanv]

He still plays as the backbone to this day. He does tons of studio stuff that most people don't know about. He was Luther Vandross' bassist for a while.

[@reff9289]

Freakin juicy audio re-touch up... Marcus especially! Hands down one of the greatest fusion ensembles EVER.

[@williamflinchum-qo6ch]

It,s ashame Jaco and Miles never recorded together??

[@francescoiadicicco1266]

Miller playing a la Jaco, Stern playing a la Scofield. There's something odd going on here.

[@catboyzee]

I agree with you that Evans is pissed at Marcus for getting out of pocket. I'm sure it was that in-your-face 'Jaco' tone Marcus was using along with the lick that miffed him. It used to be the dull thud of the upright allowed horn players to just run amok. By introducing the more aggressive sounding electric bass, Miles forced a lot of cats to rethink their playing and step out of the comfort zones of 'traditional' jazz. Way to go Miles! Innovation and Evolution is a good thing for all music.

[@damainmang6362]

Marcus did no wrong!!! very inventive

[@mananaadamia1657]

I love Marcus Miller ❤️😍

[@ahmedsahnoun7042]

Everythime when Im listening to Miles it's like the 1st time...Unique Genius

[@cm0220ster]

If you listen to Mike Stern tell the story Fat Time was the nickname Miles gave to Stern when he was a member of the band, because he liked his sense of time. Also, Pat Metheny, who was Stern's teacher at one time, also loved Stern's feel and time. It's one of the things that makes Mike stand out and a HUGE part of his talent. I was hoping this was a Davis/Stern video. Still good though.

[@gameover313]

for me mike stern is a bit underrated. i saw him many times now and i think he dont get the attention he deserves.

[@daleford9606]

@ Daniel Roth, Mike Stern is a legend! I do think this was his coming out party and this tour/recording was his best playing...

[@mrcooper7027]

I've seen him live 3 times and he is on of the most original an innovative guitarists I have seen and heard.

[@klapsigaarenbasgitaar1931]

Hmm, always thought he was out of place in that band. Never fit in if you ask me. I think particularly with Marcus Miller there was no click at all.

[@gameover313]

@@klapsigaarenbasgitaar1931 might be true. I prefer his work with Blood Sweat and Tears and his solo records.

[@martyosterer6350]

Barry Finnerty is my Fav guitarist Miles used

[@donaldmattia1491]

the "We Want Miles" band.Lovely!

[@MrPartidoalto]

Al Foster is dealin'! Everything starts with him at the bottom

[@webjoyz]

I was one of the luckiest man to see them live in Paris... Mike Stern was impressive, so do they all of them, Miles so great as usual...

[@Mr99wonder]

Great Artist from the USA Midwest Detroit and ST Louis CHI Town

[@UnitedElectric]

Wow. Totally different from the evil shuffle Fat Time on the record (my favorite Mike Stern solo of all time btw). Not sure I like this version as much. Although thank you for the rare footage of this band.

[@satishrobertson8771]

Yeah, the Man With The Horn version has the perfect groove and perfect tempo, there was no need to speed it up so much. Also same as you, my all time favorite Mike Stern solo is on that version. I will say Bill Evans sounds better on this live rendition tho.

[@summertyme5748]

@@satishrobertson8771 The thing that makes Miles so much more interesting than 99.9999 musicians on earth is that he does a masterpiece like So What, or Fat Time - and then shrugs it off and refuses to even think of playing the same thing the same way. I can listen to Miles over Mozart, Luis Armstrong, or Beatles.

[@cali22boi]

Miles' mouthpiece from the 1970's. It was used for the wah-wah pedal. The only reason he used that mouthpiece during his "comeback" is because story has it that he lost his "straight" one. This one was molded from the Gustav mouthpiece one he used from the late 50's on. So as time progressed from he eventually got a new mouthpiece made around 1983-4.

[@piovragb]

Miles, marcus, mike's...wonderful

[@bdschannel4733]

Amazing performance! Great music!

[@CptChaos88]

@Zeemanuk i wasn't even alive, when this here was recorded... i was born like 10 years later...

[@cdy4ddy]

I had the good fortune to see this band a couple of times, including their first gig; the warm up date in Boston prior to their "debut" at JVC NYin '81. Walking up to the the club (Kix, which one of the tunes on "We Want Miles" was named for) and seeing Miles' yellow Ferrari parked outside gave me chills, although they were much better in '82. Evans is at the absolute bottom of the list of Miles' great horn players that came before and after him, but the rest of the band was outstanding.

[@davidkorneliussen5577]

Bill have a unique and melodic way of playing. Don't agree with you

[@holygroove2]

...and he said that he heard music moving in short phrases in that Quincy Troupe autobiography. The main returning melody here is so simple but so juicy - especially because of the way that the rhythm section and Bill Evans are playing with Miles when they come back to it...super cool, super Miles.

[@mauriceshanesr.1726]

Hello Rick, This is a great video post!! A big Miles Davis and Marcus Miller fan!! I have the Man with a Horn CD [ Album back in the day] I highly recommend reading TWO good books, The autobiography on Miles Davis and The Last Miles!! They will provide great insight to Miles and his mind and the music!! Today, Marcus Miller has a current CD titled AFRODEEZIA, and the same Mino Cinelu is playing percussion on the CD!! Lastly, I want to say to those silly people with childlike post-respect the music.. That's why U sit in UR small apartment leaving Neil Young/ Kyra comments.. I bet U Mike Stern don't work a 8-5 gig and sit in brick and mortar building hating their job[s]!! Peace

[@trobson9952]

I will give it a six I loved the melody . " I feel like a thief"

[@boomfield]

timeless

[@Mr99wonder]

Mr MILLER A REAL Down to earth Genteman.Kool and the gangI

[@jazzuffe]

This is soo incredible! Great upstart band when the Miles returned.

[@amilcarvalenca3381]

Thanks...

[@marcovortexbohler]

this song is fuckin fantastic holy shit how heavy can it get

[@rodolfoperalta5180]

Delightful

[@모두까기인형-t8e]

mike stern !... groove!

[@stretch54]

It's nice to see Marcus playing with his fingers. Nowadays it's always slapping.

[@blairjones8231]

He has evolved!

[@inuyashaspet]

Why'd they focus on the guitardist's face when Marcus was playing the fat chops? I'll never, EVER understand the camerawork of most concert videos....

[@SamyDaussat]

AL FOSTER AL FOSTER AL FOSTER

[@lubass66]

che musica ragazzi pelle d'oca!!!!!

[@seand67]

BRAVO

[@XanAxDdu]

ma chi è bravo

[@basslobster]

Miller was really exciting back then.

[@partidoalto1]

Al Foster is laying it down. Everybody follows suit. Stern looked different then.

[@vargaso]

Man, this version is fast, doesn't have that slow stanky groove of the album version. Still, the playing from everyone is incredible.

[@danyelle8856]

che band ragazzi !!!!!

[@Vittorione62]

Che bellezza!

[@aliensporebomb]

Amazing that this take seems twice as fast as the album take but is within two seconds of the album version in terms of time.

[@damainmang6362]

Cocaine was really good back then, not as stepped on

[@rillloudmother]

@@damainmang6362 Miles always played stuff way faster live than on record.

[@annickcanival5909]

Merveilleux Miles

[@shadowknight132]

@impala327 Coltrane was during the Bebop area where it was important to play a lot of notes. I think Miles Davis got that idea from that famous critic who said that the main problem of guitarist are they play too much notes.

[@sonofnok2153]

The blessed ones.

[@awadaawada6738]

I mean if you're going to become a jazz musician and you share your name with one of the most famous and influential jazz musicians you might as well use a different name because that jazz legend's name will overshadow your name

[@FatsCaton]

jammin!

[@darreywell4110]

Al Foster is killing it!!!!

[@tomwilkins3865]

All of Miles' drummers up to that point were legendary. Al Foster was the last in that class.

[@jk22820]

Just came across this. All I want to say is, yes I was at this gig, the point is 'how loud they played', you had to shout to speak with the person next to you. Ain't joking!

[@annickcanival5909]

BELLES PENSEES MILES DAVIS ..... KIFFF !!!

[@kenoopyofficial533]

whaaaat a look Miles!!!!

[@aetio2]

A Question pls: this video is taken from the dvd "Live at the Hammersmith Odeon, London 1982"? It's very good!! there is also a superbe solo by Mike Stern...Thks vm...

[@A__Love]

You go boys!

[@yitzchallevi8208]

God bless you Marcus...

[@mananaadamia1657]

Yes

[@misterfunnybones]

Some people can't stand listening to this type of jazz because they don't understand how fun it is to play it, or maybe they prefer a tr808, or Kenny G string.

[@Zeemanuk]

Sounding Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet here in 2011 ------ i was born in the wrong time -------- i was -5 was this was recorded

[@cdy4ddy]

He was not well physically at this point, but was moving around much better than he was in '81.

[@geddylifeson5136]

All stars

[@nickfanzo]

On fire

[@bobvanluijt]

@bassje01 Well, actually it was my "very evolved dutch sense of humor" :-P Ik zal ze doorgeven! Vette clips trouwens (pentatonic rulezzzz)

[@studid55]

4:45 the drop is beyond funky! NICE

[@KitchenBuddha]

Is Miles using a 90degree mouthpiece? WTH is that? A valve or spare mouthpiece on the right?

[@paulrutkovskis]

Explain to me as a non-expert in Jazz: Why does the song sound so different from the studio recording? They have significantly altered the core groove of the song.

[@Spooky.Boogie.xj0461]

jazz players do a lot of improv. so lots of things get changed and are not always the same live

[@ДимитрарРезников]

Wow! M & MM.

[@yanivgheber4566]

bill evans on saxophone??

[@XanAxDdu]

?

[@bennybillings]

A different Bill Evans lol.

[@jemmanmen3284]

잘보고감니다 ~~

[@bassje01]

@bobvanluijt Do you mean he LOOKS like 14? Because he is born in 1959. Groeten aan Job ;-)

[@jiyujizai]

復帰間もない頃だぜ！✨😍ナイス👊😃💕

[@summertyme5748]

Miller was a musician who sounded great with and without Miles. Unlike some others - who are pure genius with Miles, but just sound like pointless pyrotechnics without him.

[@bobvanluijt]

Nice, nice, also cool that Marcus Miller is about 14 years old in this clip :-p

[@ricanlaker9174]

Marcus "The Groove Setter" Miller.

[@alessandrodesouza6003]

Alessandro de Souza

[@KnowKnot]

@jokeob Depends. Do you feel like that about all Miles' work? If so, it's something in his style that's throwing you - and anyone who says there's nothing to work through in "getting it," whatever that means, is arrogant. If not, then maybe it's the condition he was in emotionally/musically at the time. Listen to the studio version and see what happens. In the end, all the "why" of "liking" something is crap. It just speaks. Everything else is just trying to find a way to be comfy with it.

[@piccinini02]

i'm sorry, i'm not a expert in jazz, but I didnt get whats so terrible about this version. Please somebody tell me, cause it sounds fine to my lay ears. piccinini,Brazil.

[@bassistdc]

Too fast, no groove.

[@daleford9606]

@ piccinini02, nothing terrible about it! It’s just faster than the album version

[@daleford9606]

@ bassistdc, it grooves just fine...

[@tipsylibrarians7764]

If you like it, it’s good.

[@Spike-w5o]

Fat Time Miles wrote about Mike Stern

[@cm0220ster]

Woops my bad. I posted elsewhere that I was disappointed Stern wasn't in the video. But there he is......

[@danieledeangelis8406]

Marcus Miller nel 82 aveva già il suo Fender signature?

[@costachristoo]

ok , the title says ,,,Marcus Miller w/ Miles Davis,,, MARCUS appears only for a few seconds,,,ehhhhmm

[@awadaawada6738]

So miles Davis had two bill Evans in his bands at two different points in time

[@XanAxDdu]

shit ..... and you have 2 hands, what' their name? asshole

[@tiluriso]

Stern looks like a cross between David Gilmour and Dim (from the movie 'A Clockwork Orange)

[@USfutbol]

Why??? Did it have to end so soon.

[@MrJadePinwheel]

time travel my boy drake on congs 3:15

[@andreasb2131]

Marcus is about 23 years old and already playing his Fender Jazz Bass??? 😮😮😮😮

[@shawnmaloneypro]

I believe he's had that bass since he was 13.

[@kjwilkguitar]

It's his famous 1977 Fender Jazz Bass modded with a preamp. I believe he had it when he was 18 or 19 and got it modded a couple of years later. One thing he's known to do ever since he was a teenager was detune his E string down to "D" or "C". Sometimes lower. This particular song it's detuned to "C".

[@KABRIS1]

@piccinini02 What is terrible is that there are a lot of critics out there that don't know shit about music.

[@alessandrodesouza6003]

Alessandro de Souza sujeira

[@bassje01]

@bobvanluijt Shame one me that I as a real Dutchman didn't got that :-) Zie je denk ik wel op de bruiloft, ik mag in de dienst spelen...

[@vadimislearningguitar4977]

from - the man with the horn - album??

[@deanmccall9379]

would have been nice to actually hear the guitar solo...

[@brantc]

Some people just dont know good groove when they hear it!!!!

[@Spike-w5o]

Rick Beato sent me here😊

[@reff9289]

I still don't get why Bill Evans never really broke out like Stern or Marcus?

[@flacobass]

Broke out?