Marianne Williamson and Dr. Gerald Horne on Protests, Dems' Failures, and 2020 | Useful Idiots

Hosts Matt Taibbi and Katie Halper discuss a few moments from the past week, including Trump's praise of 'dominating' the protests, then Historian Dr. Gerald Horne discusses the history of racism in the US and contextualizes current issues, followed by Marianne Williamson on intersectional issues and the 2020 election
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[@biogenicrebel3507]

Marianne Williamson " In every community, there is work to be done. In every nation, there are wounds to heal. In every heart, there is the power to do it." Tell me what other politician has this real spiritual intelligence.

[@nash984954]

Jimmy Carter

[@shadeshadyshade254]

Just words. Woman is crazy.

[@niveajones6400]

"Evil wears a business suit...and is so charming." True!!

[@alveolate]

it's one of those oversimplified aphorisms that kinda sounds sensible; however the true "evil" is far more nefarious. the inherent weaknesses of free market capitalism are being structurally exploited by the owner class in america. they don't need business suits or charm - they have the country in their grip for decades and are so deeply entrenched that their hegemonic power is almost impossible to dislodge within a generation. greed has been systematically infused into america's soul... and masquerades as the american dream.

[@toddkatz9390]

(I like your contraction of her words - use it!) 👍

[@toddkatz9390]

@@alveolate ...the problem involves prevailing attention spans, friend.

[@terrygivens132]

One of your best shows ever. Marianne Williamsen is amazing.

[@rmmst49]

terry givens except she wants me to vote for a rapist who wrote the crime bill which killed George Floyd and every other name written on George Floyd’s memorial.

[@mhkpt]

@@rmmst49 sadly it's a case of harm reduction at this point. I understand if people find the choice to disgusting to even accept, but I personally agree that being punched by Biden beats being stabbed by Trump. Plus, which of the two can conceivably be reasoned with by the left?

[@rmmst49]

@mhkpt Harm reduction to you is capitulation to people who know what words mean

[@rmmst49]

Frank Sears so your comment frank, you ‘other’ everyone who doesn’t agree with you. Maybe in today’s climate you can see how pretending that others aren’t people doesn’t take society very far in a positive direction

[@mhkpt]

rmmst49 i agree that he’s terrible. But between terrible and downright monstrous, the choice is clear to me. I respect it if you don’t feel the same way.

[@DiceBaseballDigest]

Marianne blew me away. Wow! Intelligent, thoughtful and progressive, she is beyond articulate. They gave her the shaft and labeled her the outcast, pot smoking hippy.

[@emhu2594]

Cards & Dice TV Maybe if we had supported her instead of Bernie, she wouldn’t have caved like Bernie. Bernie is the definition of controlled opposition.

[@celestemi4341]

@@emhu2594 don't depend on any one candidate they will always let you down. They're human Build coalitions of good people and a movement. We need time we already shot everything on Bernie for this election. Realistically. I had some hope for a minute there with Jesse Ventura but that's not happening now.

[@celestemi4341]

@@emhu2594 that said I love Marianne. I would vote for her.

[@neilpinard7545]

All you had to do is watch the interview of her by Dave 'High level ideas' Rubin. She dismantled him with well thought out answers to his sad questions and proclamations. No, she is quite bright.

[@gogochee1122]

Beautiful too

[@jenbrez70]

Marianne, you are like the majority of us. We want to believe the democrats are better than they are, more of us are coming around that they are not.

[@dashx1103]

Susan Rice: "'Racism' doesn't divide us in America, Russians tweeting about racism divides us."

[@9000ck]

it's an awful comment by her, but you can't let it distract you. Americans NEED to keep protesting...if you don't fascism will definitely arrive. trump has shown his hand. His aim is to 'dominate.' That is the only rationale behind fascism; to wield the power of violence for it's own sake.

[@donnieparker1811]

Bernie is showing up powerfully on Instagram and also raising money for protesters.

[@barquerojuancarlos7253]

Rice's comment is insane, paranoid personality disorder: " ... distrustful of others ... tends to hold grudges ...". But she's not alone: "The Most Exceptional Thing About America Is Our Paranoia" by Tom Engelhart, The Nation 9-29-15

[@luannbenitez6232]

No, provocateur agents divide us because they play on our feelings and Trump is probably the biggest most despicable one. We have too many buttons they can push to get us to react. We need to wake up and realize we are being played by both sides. My feelings are my own and I refuse to let others play me.

[@eileenmc4746]

susan rice was thinking of trying to be maine dem vs susan collins. rice is evil war monger.

[@torval10]

I was a Sanders supporter starting in 2016. Marianne Williamson should have been our nominee.

[@austintrousdale2397]

Marianne’s intentions are too pure, her thoughts too deep, and her pockets too shallow. 🇺🇸✌️

[@compassioncampaigner3297]

@@austintrousdale2397 Undeniably insightful

[@toddkatz9390]

@@compassioncampaigner3297 ...agreed.

[@trovermichelle]

Marianne Williamson is seriously awesome.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

She's a space cadet. The Woke people are a cult. Read Cynical Theories by James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose. The CRT people are a goddamn menace.

[@aprila3203]

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Yeah.... feeding people with life threatening diseases really sounds menacing. What’s wrong with you?

[@MostlyLoveOfMusic]

Marianne has a very good heart - a strong progressive voice

[@tigerstyle4505]

Depends on which day ya catch her on.

[@luannbenitez6232]

And wisdom.

[@stevewarwick2103]

Indeed. Sometimes I feel like this country doesn't deserve her.

[@raykirkham5357]

You can count on Susan Rice to give you material right out of the Fossil Fuel Keystone playbook.

[@luannbenitez6232]

She is part of the establishment and a mouthpiece for them, just like Obama.

[@lutherblissett9070]

@Lilith And it's very hard to get to high places without being corrupt.

[@icemeoutlikeelsa]

Marianne Williamson should have been propped up rather than Bernie, she would have actually taken on the establishment

[@mlhussivxi]

hnljojoilbvtgfyvgub if I’d read this a year ago I’d say you were insane...it’s truly shocking how terribly he let down the majority of his base. I always knew Orb Gang was a cooler team name anyway 🔮💁🏼‍♂️

[@icemeoutlikeelsa]

@@mlhussivxi SAME but looking back I don't know why we didn't learn from Bernie in 2016 and continued to turn a blind eye to his flaws ini 2020.

[@icemeoutlikeelsa]

@@mlhussivxi And she's even a better speaker than Bernie, she's more skillful! We saw that now and when she schooled Dave Rubin. She's able to lay out all these different problems/ solutions in ways even a conservative could understand, all in a calm tone. It's an amazing talent of hers and really worth gold in politics.

[@elizabethsmusicandarts1590]

@@icemeoutlikeelsa I'll grant you that. Bernie will totally capitulate to a BS narrative on the fly. I saw that interview with Dave Rubin. She ruined him in a way that Tulsi didn't even try.

[@aundraeblackwell2949]

Marianne is very cool she would be a way better President Biden, Klobachur, Booker etc

[@rd264]

she should be Pope. very spiritual.

[@CaliforniaGirl-qk5kq]

Well, I voted for Bloomberg. I think by the time primaries came to California, she was not anymore on the ticket (I believe).

[@scottwill6498]

Y do u think they got her off the stage so quickly? How dare someone with brains and money push togetherness n love. To some it sounded corny but she’s right this country’s leadership is seriously lacking in it.

[@MrToontuber]

Most people would be

[@mrduckman225]

I know and after I found out about here early career I loved her even more

[@AWildBard]

Equal funding for all schools. Not equally bad. Equally excellent.

[@Harry-nn4px]

You can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink. You can provide an army of academic tutors for each retard but..

[@puffthemagicdragon9534]

AWildBard - it’s damn hard to teach kids who can beat up the teacher and fellow students with no punishment. Out of control. We are seeing the fruit of this disaster.

[@kathysizemore9934]

Exactly, school taxes should be collected for schools BUT EVENLY DISTRIBUTED.

[@markpostgate2551]

The first few times I heard that Biden quote I was so fixated on the "shoot them in the leg" part I didn't even notice the oxymoron of "an unarmed person coming at them with a knife or something". How could they be unarmed AND have a knife?!? And he has notes, which means he isn't making this speech up as he goes along, he's taken time to write that out in advance and hasn't at any point read it back to himself and thought "wait, I can't say that; that would make me sound stupid."

[@ard1805]

Mark Postgate Apparently some people think knives are like sticks, and you can just like grab it out of their hand or something. It’s really confusing.

[@franksvatek1873]

Mark Postgate, If he ever took the time to think about whatever he says he wouldn't say anything. Say, maybe that would be a good idea . . . ?

[@robertgeraldwalker4987]

Marianne Williamson is really interesting, thoughtful, sharp. I wish I had taken her seriously earlier.

[@teresaaljayyousi8447]

Truth is the media made sure you didn’t take her seriously.

[@sherryburrows2252]

I've followed Marianne for years when she was just a "new-agey feel-good, author." She's always had great ideas and frankly, I wanted to see what would happen when she came up against the corruption that is policy in American today.

[@SuperJoey1950]

Gotta live Marianne Williamson. My kind of human being.

[@seancushman]

Tim Countis I'm an hour and a half in I think I'm getting stupid listening. I don't always agree we these guys but I like to hear what they have to say. I may have to watch the second half again. I'm just glad this is not the first time I have ever watched these guys or it would have been the only time.

[@alveolate]

she's a nice lady with some authentically good aims. but the part about spirituality and philosophy... not exactly something that meshes naturally with politics. who knows, maybe if she and her supporters can keep a movement going, they'll get better at representing their views in a more palatable manner - especially for the spiritually agnostic and sceptical secularists.

[@comingviking]

I think she's great. Really great. It is a shame that she was not more like this in the debates. She is knowledgeable, outspoken and above all well spoken.

[@GregoryWonderwheel]

@@alveolate Yes, she needs an interpreter to translate her ideas into common sense political language.

[@SuperJoey1950]

@@alveolate perhaps the facet of spirituality and philosophy is what is missing in politics. Empathy needs to replace apathy. Root causes, which Ms. Williamson was the only person who addressed them in the debates instead of merely platitudes and political talking points, are never dealt with in social issues or much else. This is never more evident than in racial issues where perception is tied to poverty which is a result of systematic economic suppression.

[@ariw9405]

Out of all the Democratic candidates this year Marianne has proven that she did not just use the progressive title for political purposes she has the convictions. She is light years more principled than Warren,Yang,Pete etc. I really respect her

[@paulakaartinen9911]

Thank you for having Marianne Williamson and, as usual, asking good questions.

[@for-knees5986]

Matt and Katie, you need to get Jesse Ventura on for an indepth interview.

[@dhibba52]

Blitzer and Rice are ridiculous in their "interview".

[@terrygivens132]

Susan Rice should stop talking she sounds like an idiot

[@Chicken_Little_Syndrome]

These people treat their audience like imbecile children. Wolf Blitzer is not a smart man. And Rice is equally devoid of real intellect. The bar is so low, all they have to do is use a few big words, here and there, and most people go along with what these thought leaders say. It's propaganda. Mainstream television news is propaganda and not much else. Rice could blame little green men from Mars, and Blitzer would nod his head in agreement. We need to talk about solutions. We need to end the War of Drugs, dismantle the for-profit prison system, demilitarize the police as we change police culture, and we have to demolish the military-industrial complex, among many other things. We need to not only reform government, but we also need to revolutionize it.

[@theinternet1424]

You can learn more from watching Blitzen the reindeer interview a bowl of actual rice.

[@billyboy6028]

@@genuz I wouldn't kill his parents, but I also wouldn't hire him to be the main mouthpiece at CNN, one of the most influencial news outlets in the world.

[@dashriprock8596]

Black faces in high places doing nothing for the poor. Blitzkrieg = nothing but an AIPAC shill.

[@mikemccag]

Susan Rice sounds like Rachel Maddow Russia Russia Russia

[@smartphoto59]

Putin Putin Putin, there is no Russia, Russia Russia. Ignoring this reality is the obvious bad poker tell by the useful idiots.

[@juliannececil4610]

or Marsha Marsha Marsha, Brady bunch in 70s,Lol

[@jonnygames122]

fun fact: NYPD would be the 7th largest army in the world.

[@chris.hartliss]

*is lol

[@emhu2594]

Disband them.

[@laserprawn]

Not a fan of the NYPD but South Korea has the 7th largest army in the world at 599,000. The NYPD would be at #60, just above Australia and just below Lebanon and Canada. Still very big, but 7th is hilarious. NYPD = Police officers: 38,421/Non-officers: 19,000 worldpopulationreview.com/countries/military-size-by-country/

[@celestemi4341]

You learn something new every day...

[@mister2628]

That is nowhere near true.

[@creshiell]

Marianne Williamson was ALWAYS the REAL second choice candidate

[@CanadianPrepper]

"shooting you in the leg not the heart" I actually LOL'd, thats poetry right there

[@vphiameradisogaarwa]

My respect is accelerated - you brought on the Master Teacher Gerald Horne to speak some harsh truth to an audience more use to internationally distancing their truth, awesome.

[@pookah9938]

Glad to hear Dr. Horne. Without being aware of these beginnings we will never go forward because we will perpetuate building on a flawed foundation.

[@sanford943]

You can read his book counter revolution on line. Really explains a lot as to where we are today.

[@brandinshaeffer8970]

I understood about 40% of everything Dr. Home said. So much of it just went straight over my head...

[@oldhollywoodbriar]

Nobody understands this guy, he’s like the left wing version of the crazy right wing uncle.

[@ksuny]

"Democrats: Shooting you in the leg, not the heart." PERFECT! Upside: This has jarred people out of apathy. And yes, we want to hear from Bernie!!

[@thewettee9499]

Marianne has really impressed me

[@netcowboy]

The media loved to make fun of her but she is a multiple NYT bestselling author. An inspiration to millions.

[@rdpatterson2682]

Gosh, wonder why people hate CNN?

[@weisemari]

No wonder.

[@17addidas]

Thank YOU ..Marianne Williamson .. Keep spreading the Light and Love !! regarding your closing statement .. on the personal level ... and equally valid for a Community.. " Adversity is not sent to SINK us .. BUT to strengthen the SPIRIT "

[@juligrlee556]

Correction: This is a massive police riot in 99% of our cities

[@jamesbird5540]

Oh my god it’s not foreign actors that are screwballing the American worker it actually the Corp Democrats. 🤯🤬😷🥴

[@alexandersohm7501]

We need a lot more people like Marianne Williamson's in the world

[@uytdeman]

With my only knowledge of Marianne Williamson being that of MSM and social media slander, she is an inspiration. It’s obvious now why establishment Dems wanted to axe her from contention. Really really like the show, it’s honestly changing the way I hear, see and think about things.

[@karlhaynes3090]

First step: end the War on Drug User/Addicts.

[@seancushman]

Karl Haynes Long past due. Legalize all drugs like Portugal, go look at their crime rates since doing it. Remove immunity from police and demilitarize them. End no knock raids. End for profit prisons and a lot of them would no longer be needed. Toss all victimless crimes, after all how can you have a damn crime without a victim? I just once would like someone to explain that to me!

[@dramtoet1809]

OMG not the Russians again. LOL.

[@Andzen]

What do you mean? What Russian agents have you been talking to??

[@TCt83067695]

@@Andzen VLad himself 😁

[@AUK168]

oof, we just can't stop em... build another dozen bases around em lol

[@davemason7046]

Marianne Williamson is so charming.

[@luannbenitez6232]

and wise and talented. Maybe I should take a second look at her.

[@luannbenitez6232]

But I can not support her if she does not endorse M4A.

[@robertchristie5672]

This was a really boring pod cast. Expected more. Took 45 minutes just to get started on the issues.

[@mlhussivxi]

robert christie you clearly don’t watch this show 😅

[@kermittheefrog5762]

Lu Ann Benitez she does support m4a now.

[@pookah9938]

At some point we are going to have to reduce the influence of the police. Irony, three blocks north of the 3rd Precinct in Minneapolis is the Flour City Ironworks building, where the violent attempt to crush unionizing by hired Pinkerton's resulted in deaths. That was in the 30's. Across Lake Street from the 3rd Precinct is the first Target looted. It sits on the site of Minneapolis Moline, a company that shut down and moved out of the city to defy the union in the 50's. ..and today part of the problem is the strength of the police unions.

[@michaelzonta]

Wonderful interview with Marianne Williamson. Is she still available???!!!

[@S-R-H]

Why would anyone choose a vacation (camping) where you need to go to the bathroom outside? I’m with Ms. Halper on this one!

[@mountaindweller777]

Shylah Bell It’s the other stuff you get with campingthat makes it worth it. Also car camping siteson the Blue Ridge Parkway have bathrooms and some have showers.

[@nagashime]

The country is in a state which could be Bernies' moment …. but he sits in silence

[@oldhollywoodbriar]

That’s on purpose, Bernie is only trying to get us to vote for The Biden’s and Hillary’s of the world.

[@lyricaldon9045]

Have you looked at his sites? He is doing something..though the media black out still does not make room for his contributions....

[@wills242]

My last political disappointment as it was the last times my hopes were up in any capacity

[@nagashime]

@@lyricaldon9045 He should calling out Biden as a war mongering, senile misogynistic pervert but he won't go there. You can bet the farm that Trump will.

[@purpletopturnip4113]

Imagine hiking the AT just bleary eyed drunk the whole time. 😎

[@jesusshuttlesworth3551]

In response to marianne, the gov didn't just give people a $1200 payment. They also gave payments through unemployment insurance, $600 payments for unemployed on top of the unemployment insurance, and payments through the paycheck protection program.

[@moter2179]

Wow didn't realize that Marianne Williamson has some thoughtful takes

[@creshiell]

If you watch her interview with Dave Rubin, she had the BEST interview of the campaign season Unlike Tulsi's interview where she constantly agrees with him and throws Democrats and Progressives under the bus, Williamson has a clear strong progressive vision that cannot be twisted to serve a conservative agenda It's so hard to critique the Democratic party and not just be a Useful Idiot (ie Jimmy Dore) but Williamson does it skillfully

[@clydelouis5956]

@@creshiell Like the Democrats did Bernie? At least Tulsi fought back. F'ck towing the Democrat line.

[@heidimelcarek3677]

@@creshiell - I think that's a bit unfair. I'm extremely curious what she's not saying and it's distracting me from her message entirely. At least Jimmy Dore says exactly what he believes the truth to be, and lets the chips fall where they may. I like Williamson but she's playing a manipulative game here. I don't like that...at all. We should have all the information. How else are we going to make an informed decision?

[@creshiell]

@@heidimelcarek3677 I agree that Dore says things irresponsibly and gives sound clips for republicans to weaponize and pump up their supporters despite them being just as bad if not worse than the Dems Let me rephrase, I agree that Dore "let's the chips fall where they may". That's why I called him a useful idiot

[@clydelouis5956]

Yea I agree that the Democrats threw the progressives under the bus. The progressives need to start their own party and completely separate themselves from the Democrats. The Democrats fight just as hard against them as the Republicans fight against the Democrats. If they would form their own they could then pull from both Republicans and Democrats. But them allying with the Democrats makes this impossible.

[@carmenjones5528]

This is why I wanted Andrew Yang & Marianne Williams for President didn't care which was president or Vice. When Yang suspended I was hopeful Bernie would have her lead the department of peace Anyway I'm so Thankful you've had her on,She is a voice that is so needed today.

[@stevemartin4249]

Pot hiking's good. I used to be a mountain fire fighter in Arizona (TTO) and was heli-dropped on a fire with a Blue-Ridge hotshot ... and yeah, they had their heads shaved except for a blue-tinged mohawk. After the helicopter left, we both looked at the treetop that was torched by a lightning strike, and he turns to me and asked, 'Hey man, you like to party on fires?' - and promptly lit up a doobie and passed it to me. That was a beautiful little moment, communing with nature. 🤣 I've seen Dr. Horne on a few KZbins recently, but was really impressed with Marianne Williamson.

[@alterglobo]

"EVIL WEARS A BUSINESS SUIT" I love you Marianne, I really do.

[@audiodramatist]

Dr. Gerald Horne, the best, and so many books published.

[@michaelberry6443]

He's great, he might have essential tremor

[@simonaguilar3646]

I disagree. A rambling word salad, I'm not sure what his point was in any of that.

[@michaelberry6443]

@@simonaguilar3646 his main point is the problem is multi faceted (not just race) and basically is highly tied into century old class conflict, drawing on a lot of maybe esoteric examples

[@dstyles8913]

Maybe that’s the problem. The guy was all over the place. I got the basic message but it was a bad interview.

[@oldhollywoodbriar]

Simon Aguilar he’s like the left wing version of the crazy right wing uncle. It was hard for me to watch people do birtherism and it’s also hard for me to watch people like this do Birtherism but from the left about Trump.

[@richarthur3069]

Thanks for your show!

[@tr78478]

Wait! Monkeys rising up against their captors and escaping with vials of coronavirus is "terrible"? I couldn't stop laughing when Matt described this story......then the thought of a 'mutated simian strain of COVID-19'.....isn't this whole thing "awesome"!? Okay, yes, in a terrible way, but awesome nonetheless.

[@mhkpt]

This level of insight and thoughtfulness from both hosts and guests is sorely missing from mainstream media. I hope Marianne continues to be involved in politics - a voice of clarity and eloquence.

[@tedmaloof234]

I'm sure Susan meant the Killery playbook

[@dirtycxer]

I would love to hike; inebriated or not with Katie!

[@alittlelee6163]

Love you guys! Always look forward to your videos I am 30 year old from PA who unfortunately never cared to get into “politics” Since this whole pandemic it has really opened my eyes and got me caring alot more. I was always who cares to vote no one helps/benefits me which I do understand is the total opposite of what I should do. But anyway found you guys a while back and love your show have taught me so much! I appreciate it also a Rising fan and a Jimmy Dore as well since seeing him on your show. Keep up the great work you really are helping people and have really opened my eyes to a lot! ❤️❤️

[@gogochee1122]

Dr Horn is a brilliant speaker and a thoughtful intellect. Bring him on the show again.

[@AwesometownUSA]

nah ur wrong - he’s a bozo, and also you’re a bozo

[@mattpfarr5992]

Katie, you forgot to mention Biden said unarmed holding a knife

[@austintrousdale2397]

Kind of like being the nominee but not really

[@stevewarwick2103]

The orb energy is strong in this episode.

[@tmsjones4004]

You are so funny Katie! Camping and beer are my favorite things. It prepares you for the future. lol.

[@2Brian]

I first met Marianne in 1992 at a mutual friend's home. She is brilliantly perceptive, insightful, and empowering. Every time I hear her speak, I feel like I've taken a college course.

[@charlenek11]

Where's Bernie? Completely subordinated.

[@oldhollywoodbriar]

He’ll be back soon to tell you to vote for Joe or you ain’t black.

[@fehlrock]

Jesus Christ, Dr Horne is ultra intelligent, with encyclopedic knowledge !

[@fehlrock]

Ive seen him on RT....

[@fehlrock]

Hate to say it, he's smarter than Cornell West :/

[@danquattro6662]

I disagree with his world politics and historical theories. Many historians have disagreements about whats contained in some of his books. But i have to give him credit for being critical of mainstream lefty hypocrites on policy.

[@fehlrock]

@@danquattro6662 yah man, hez too Left for me. I sure admire his brain. Noam Chomsky knows everything, but his conclusions are Often wrong :(

[@laureldevine]

Actually he's a really, really good bullshit artist and fairy tale writer.

[@deneengrant2086]

Like Cornell West said, “We tried black faces in high places”. Didn’t help us AT ALL!

[@ard1805]

Deneen Grant Green is bigger than brown.

[@mohlodingmabapa2485]

"Bunker boy" Greatest Trump nickname I'm sticking with it. Hoping it will catch on.

[@jonnygames122]

ruling class always wins, whoever the nominees are

[@sherylF5610]

That is right and why the system has to be dumped upside down. So yeah, what's the plan.

[@meenki347]

Bernie has said something. He's calling for a wage increase for cops. Facepalm.

[@chrisburden4127]

Thank you so much. So many pearls to gather here and yes clarity and knowledge kick into high gear when one suffers deep pain.

[@melsemmling4275]

Hiking and camping are amazing. They are stress relievers, a way to unplug, enjoy the beauty of nature/wildlife and improve your health.

[@kevincarter7633]

When you get a chance get richard Wolff on. The only marxists economist I know

[@sanford943]

Michael Hudson as well. I first heard of him when Wolff interviewed him on Economic Update. At least one person I have read considers him the best economist in the world.

[@chrisburden4127]

All police should be governed by the local citizens whom the police are there to protect. No government at any level should have control.

[@laureldevine]

100%

[@kkpaine]

100%2

[@Hippiekinkster]

The police should BE local citizens, trained in conflict resolution, based on restorative justice.

[@katemcshane]

That was great. Like many people, I never thought about her until she ran for office and I was surprised and extremely impressed and I want to thank you SO MUCH for this interview.

[@peggymalloy2882]

Sounds like Marianne is building her own movement. Great to have her voice out there.

[@JOHNNYHAULAWAY]

Marianne came out against M4A.. Which automatically disqualified her.

[@dcrown7068]

She is for it. Even back then she wasn’t against it. She wanted the treAtments options to go further

[@ja3482]

Marianne was for Medicare for All in principle, she just wanted to make sure there was a guaranteed budget for enchanted poultices and examinations by witches before she could support it in good conscious.

[@rrpearsall]

"Shoot the Leg, Not the Heart.. Poor People's Hearts Can Be Just as Good and Lives Matter Just as Much as White Peoples" Vote Joe 2020 Or You Ain't Black Jack!

[@jennjenn8540]

We the people fund these police departments, by paying taxes. We have every right to demand that they protect and serve. Instead they have become another arm of the military, treating the citizens like the enemy.

[@dhibba52]

Go to your city council and start a movement to defund them. Our town got rid of the police--who were dirty in drugs--heroine, meth etc. We rely on our Sheriff Department now. Don't vote to fund them when they want to raise taxes to fund them.

[@word2RG]

Lets eliminate "donors" from politics and all civil service.

[@AwesometownUSA]

And also: literally slaughter all the lobbyists! :D

[@tylerzipay9536]

I like the term "uprising"

[@highneedforcognition9660]

Katie's lipstick is incredible

[@tinydancer8536]

When I was a Jewish kid growing up in a middle class neighborhood, it was mostly catholics and Protestants as the main religion.Basically mostly Christian and boy how I didn't want to stand out and say that we didn't celebrate Xmas. When kids would talk about their relatives and ask what their heritage was they would answer, "mine were Irish" and "mine were Italian" and mine were Swedish". And I would say "mine were Russian and Polish" And they would answer me..."I thought you were Jewish" Do you think it's any different now? The reformed temple in my neighborhood closed and the land was purchased by a medical conglomerate. I'm sure there are Jewish doctors, but wouldn't it be more comfortable if the Christians didn't have to sound uneducated about Judaism if it just didn't exist?

[@jonnygames122]

The protesters do not need to vandalize, that is not our only power. We can withhold our labor.

[@Les537]

Bernie is MIA. He remains as useless as he ever was. Time to move on, Katie.

[@PleaseSayYesTV]

Matt you seem stressed hope youre doing okay big man

[@cynthiajohnson9412]

Judging by a lot comments I see, part of the compassion side of this issue about the police for the Left is recognizing that a awful lot of people were taught 'respect' as children by getting the crap beaten out of them by authority figures. They then grow up broken to the understanding that genuine respect is taught by being given respect not demanding respect. There's a awful big number of people who really think that 'might makes right' because some brutal adult beat it into them when they were too small to question that validity. In other words, I guarantee you that the people supporting the police were sorely beaten as children by parents who told them it was in the name of love and respect. I think those people deserve as much understanding and compassion as we can muster.

[@DucksDeLucks]

"I can't understand why anyone would hike or camp." That is sooooooo typical.

[@cornholiothefirst2018]

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[@aliciaarredondo622]

No.....

[@aliciaarredondo622]

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[@greeneyedlurker683]

Outstanding chats! Thank you for your work on this much needed and excellent show. ✌🏽❤️

[@lsny617]

That Marianne Williamson interview was amazing!!! Such wisdom, clarity, compassion, and love! -- '...looks of hostility from Democratic presidential candidates on the debate stage.' 'YOU WILL NOT BE ON THIS STAGE FOR THE THRID DEBATE!!!!' hmmmmmm. The revolution they all laughed off is HERE!!

[@maddie9185]

I will watch anything when Marianne Williamson is the guest.

[@cronkthink]

Horne alluded to the extreme controversy surrounding Nicole Hannah-Jones and the New York Times' 1619 Project but he did not discuss it at any length. He just referred to an allegedly over-determined liberalism that has interpreted U.S. history without the necessary racial information or insight required to understand, among other things, that the American Revolution was fought primarily to defend slavery. This claim about the revolution is astounding. It simply is not sufficient to endorse it without reckoning with the other side of the story that has chiefly been told by the World Socialist Website and the historians it interviewed, including Adolph Reed, Jr., a black political science professor at the University of Pennsylvania, all of whom have something serious to say by way of rebutting the extraordinary thesis propounded by the 1619 Project. I think it would be gravely intellectually irresponsible for Useful Idiots to allow this central claim of Horne's (and Jones', and the NYT's) to stand without airing at least a piece of how the claim has been very articulately challenged, instead of writing such challenges off.

[@oldhollywoodbriar]

Honestly I don’t think you have to worry about anyone taking Horne seriously. He’s like the left wing version of the crazy right wing uncle.

[@cronkthink]

@@oldhollywoodbriar I wouldn't be so sure. Katy and Matt take him seriously. The NYT takes him seriously, and depending how far it gets with its "1619 Project" . . . But your point is well taken.

[@kathyputnam84]

I learn so much from Katie & Matt & their guests. You’re my oasis in a sea of neoliberals & neoconservatives. Y’all are the vaccine against ignorance & cynicism. Like Katie, I am/was a Bernie supporter & like Marianne, I believe in ACIM and that there should be a Department of Peace. I’m going to order Matt’s book, Hate, Inc. because I’m done with MSM. We need to get y’all to #1 spot!

[@andreaeno4546]

I loved the looks on y’alls faces when either of your guests said something absolutely brilliant. I’m so glad, and also moved to have heard their perspectives.

[@DiceBaseballDigest]

First she says she doesn’t want to name names and then let’s them have it.

[@sanford943]

It is something people say a lot. Wish she had named names. Who ever it was can't hurt her.

[@WillCountyCARE]

You are great. One of my top 5 youtube choices. Look forward to Fridays when you are on

[@tomchristoffel8728]

I learned of Dr. Horne in a Aug 20, 2014 interview by Paul Jay of The Real News Network. In video 3 of 6 he discussed "The Counter Revolution of 1776 and the Construction of Whiteness." I looked for other content from him. C-SPAN did an in-depth interview October 2, 2016. Book-TV has not covered many of his books. While Amazon has digital and hard copy, there is only one audio book. His new book can be ordered, but there is no audio book option. His unpopular, but logical analysis is hard to take. It does put the roots of our problems quite deep. Great to see him here. It would be good for him to do Joe Rogan. Marianne Williamson was equally insightful - really a person of depth and humanity. A repeat of this line-up with Horne and Williamson in the dialogue could move some needles. I listen for the content, not the comedy. The comedians are given a lot of material, but late night hasn't changed too many minds. Jimmy Dore wouldn't last two minutes as an elected official. Joe Bageant was a friend of mine. His 2007 book: "Deer Hunting with Jesus: Dispatches from America's Class War" explained how the right played the game. Probably too much cursing for the Dems to take it seriously. The biggest problem from my POV - a 1946 Boomer, was emergence of the notion of: "doing well, while doing good". That was a Devil's bargain, so their souls went missing. Policy? Lots of talk, no implementation.

[@astuart101]

Brilliant...thoroughly enjoyed listening to you both and to your guests......also it’s probably the first time I actually felt I could ‘connect’ with a political speaker, while listening to Marianne Williamson, completely refreshing. I’m not even in your country, but thank you 😊

[@norankpost2]

Thanks you two for another entertaining and informative show. Appreciate the introduction to historian Gerald Horne. Will check out his writing.

[@residentgrey]

I wish Marianne won. She is still the most aware of the candidates to have been on the debate stage. She could have joined forces with Bernie and Tulsi too, but we are beginning to know why that did not happen...if only...

[@d.c.8828]

Your first guest, Dr. Gerald Horne, is one of the most interesting guests y'all have had on! Looking forward to reading his new book!

[@darrenkennedy7401]

This episode is absolutely essential information. I'm planning on watching it in full again. I really appreciate Katie and Matt giving a platform to older historians and analysts as well, especially those that lived through the 60s. Most of the crucial internet voices right now seem to be those that had their political awakening after 911 or the Bernie/Occupy movement. The historical context and spiritual aspect of all that's going on seems so important now. It's also interesting to see current protests in Israel and Iran.

[@frankjames4743]

Marianne Williamson sounds better and better the more I listen to her. Another fantastic interview Dan, Katie and Matt. Thank you