My DISTURBING DeviantArt Stories

[@jvts8916]

2010 back when we didn't quite understand internet etiquette. Nowadays more people understand that if you want a fetish art commission, you go to the artists that already draw it for free.

[@ArbitraryOutcome]

Or better yet, not ask it from minors especially cause that's fucked up.

[@wolfieolfie]

nope! people still try to sneakily ask for fetish art through various methods orz will say it’s much less frequent tho

[@iconica9516]

who tf is drawing fetish art for free LOL people just understand that if they want fetish art they better rack up some money, not that they have to find someone who's doing it free fetish artist make BANK

[@RippahRooJizah]

@@iconica9516 Hey, sometimes you have people who will just take requests. Even I've had this happen to me.

[@MonkieBoots]

Uhhhhh nooo, i got a fetish request within like..., a day of posting an mlp drawing on tumblr this year. The blog didnt state my age so this person clearly didnt care about the age of the person they were send fetish requests to. They probably thought i was an innocent child who wouldnt see through their bs. I wasnt really on the internet in the 2010s but i doubt its gotten much better since then tbh

[@stxriaa]

$2 for a piece of artwork that 20 hours was spent on is insane 😭😭

[@Maliktevin1643]

Yep cause.. wow 😅

[@cesarosakanu9428]

I'm the 100th like

[@Maliktevin1643]

@@cesarosakanu9428 Great 👍🏾

[@UmbreonEevee]

10 cents an hour, the deviantart classic 👌👌👌

[@subekyuuke]

​@@UmbreonEeveeNYO BC THIS REMINDED ME I WAS ORIGINALLY CONSIDERING TAKING COMMS FOR 25P PER DRAWING (drawings usually take me like 2 hrs) BECAUSE PPL BOTH ONLINE AND IRL INCLUDING MY _PARENTS_ SAID THAT WAS A FAIR PRICE FIR MY ART... then i realised i dont have any way of getting the money syo i didnt start taking them

[@FoxBlocksHere]

Bless your art teacher for being aware of this phenomenon (especially something as specific as the "gas pedal") and warning you about it!

[@kayisconfused_]

WHY DO CHILDREN KEEP EXPOSING THEIR AGE IN THIS COMMENT SECTION IT'S SO WEIRD 😭😭 "Oh I was born in 2010!" "I wasn't even in the womb in 2010" idk how to tell you guys this but it's really unsafe, and literally no person who isn't a creepy old guy cares

[@Digital_is_silly]

i was born in 1728

[@irjectjade]

@@Digital_is_silly 296 years old.. you're a grand person elderly

[@teeth_of_a_rat]

"I was born in 2010" "I wasn't even in the womb in 2010" mf i died in 2010 😭

[@satiosnewaccount4606]

I was born in 1898, where were you during the 2010s???//??

[@Digital_is_silly]

@@irjectjade no im not i look 2 years old wdym

[@BubblegumPatty]

I'm kind of glad I was so small that no one tried to request fetish art from me. Tumblr Roleplay scene however... Barely dodged a Giantess fetish Magic Anon trying to suggest my Elise Fire Emblem like crushing and destroying things and I just went "She would not do that, she's nice. That would be ooc of her :("

[@StarkMaximum]

Marikyuun referencing Coney with the opening "FELLAS" really made me smile, I love the way he does that.

[@WohaoG]

ToadWave

[@conuspdogus2535]

Whos this Coney because on the interwebs when im always called conus or coney (after my dead dog rip coney)

[@MahouShoujoMadeline]

Kinda glad I left DeviantArt back in 2023. The amount of weirdos I met on there was crazy. I met one person who had some kind of weird feet fetish and they stole my art and reposted it on FanPOP or something.

[@bradolfpittler2875]

The bad news is that weirdos are EVERYWHERE on the internet. So even if DeviantArt kicks the bucket, you'll still encounter those nasty people on other platforms.

[@NanoscopicSize]

As someone who has a foot fetish, I rather just hang out with my own group who are also into that. Never liked the idea of sharing it with a total stranger.

[@StarWarriorRobby]

I've been doing commissions and other content on DeviantArt for 15 years. I know about the amount of weirdos still hanging around there,... among other messed up things that happened recently that caused many people to leave. I want to leave and make Pixiv and Newgrounds my main home for my artwork, but I couldn't because of all the connections with people I still have on DeviantArt that don't have Pixiv, Newgrounds, nor even Discords.

[@Fang_Tooth]

yeah, i think in that case you just have to move along and put most of your art hustle efforts into NG and pixiv these days and just stick to DA being the social site where you talk to those people every now and then (while still posting there) if it gets really bad man there's just no great art posting sites at the moment so i've been jumping from place to place myself it's so tiring

[@datboi8357]

Ah, deviantart. The seventh circle of dead end artists

[@romeokukita277]

What are the other ones?

[@itz_Hunter_Lumine]

I still use it wdym?!

[@xTlsBob4]

@@romeokukita277 *R 34* nothing more to say

[@Xilas-Artworks]

@@xTlsBob4 yes like Hell, now I want to leave that place shut and leaves the trauma

[@xTlsBob4]

@@Xilas-Artworks same

[@ofcatsandcrepes2080]

I am so sorry this happened to you. That's called fetish mining. That happened to me there and on tumblr MULTIPLE TIMES. Did nothing for my trust issues.

[@JensterG]

Weirdest deviantart commission I can remember(that I declined): Someone asked for MY sona, a purple cat Sonic fan character at the time, swallowing a watermelon. Besides the prompt, I don't know why they wanted MY mascot doing. I wouldn't have accepted it anyway, I personally don't do fetish art, but I declined it even faster because it was my own OC

[@cryohera]

A somewhat very relatable video for artists who were still young drawing on DeviantArt! It's a dead site. But for real, the remaining creepy guys can still take advantage the brand new artists from what I've seen and experienced a bit. They will always be there, somehow. And now that AI shit is easily found on this site and that it's a really bad app on mobile (buggy, laggy,...) and more. I suggest not posting art here. Watch out, DeviantArt artists! :(

[@bradolfpittler2875]

The site has seen better days for sure but it's far from dead. It's still a large community that falls within the top 300 websites according to siterank data.

[@aitumtaring7630]

On the point of adults paying children on dA cents to draw their ocs. I still remember back then in 2018 where I would put up the price of like 35 pts (0.35 cents) for a shaded fullbody pixel art and not ONE adult on the site told me it was underpriced. Btw a Closed Species guy bought like +4 of these (+140 pts/$1.4) for his HIGH RARITY C.S. characters. What a time...

[@sakurabiskuit]

At least you got points for that. I used to do free art just for fun. One time, someone made a very specific request: A mini comic where Po kisses Tigress, then she turns fat and rolls over him. And my innocent little kid self did it. Though I don't think the person ended up liking it 'cause they didn't fave it or anything. Probably because I didn't actually draw Po being crushed, just Tigress rolling after him.

[@catfishonland]

i remember deviantart. it sure was a place. as a teen, i didn't draw fetish art for a few cents by some luck, but i got it as a gift. of my fursona (this is important. not just my character, my SONA) being pregnant. the description said she (my sona was actually a he then, the person just didn't clearly care) was pregnant by their sona. thankful for the fanart, i just thanked them 💀 i still remember that pic way too well, too actually now when i think about it, two request arts i got to draw of a very large woman and a very giant chested woman might not have been that innocent 💀💀💀

[@daydreaming99]

I had a similar experience. When I was a teen, I had a friend who tried commissioning me to draw pregnancy fetish art for them, but I refused due to lacking the artistic skills. But since we were friends, this person ended up drawing fetish art of my self-insert fancharacter pregnant, and at that time I felt like I had to be thankful they took their time to draw it. I didn't understand the concept of sona/self-insert at the time, so I remember starting to hate my self-insert at the time, but couldn't pinpoint why. I'm still hesitant to create a sona after that experience. ^^;;

[@glitterboxx19]

​@@daydreaming99 don't let that experience stop you from drawing your character I've had a similar experience with my animal characters ( they're inspired by Sanrio characters so I draw their eyes the same way their's look ) my friends used to draw over my characters and change the way their eyes looked and I felt like I couldn't tell them my honest opinion about it and was scared I'd hurt their feelings.

[@ACatwithNoHat]

What can i say? As person with giantess fetish, I'm glad i never commissioned any drawing, cause I never cared to check the age of the artist assuming they were all adults!!! I didn't even know DA showed your age!! "Sure if this person uploads stuff, it's surely an adult!". I'm happy i haven't caused second-hand traumas to anyone. ahahahah P.S. I wish i could make background as you already were able to back then. How dare they care "only about THIS"? They're freaking cool. Love the tree expecially. I will sommission you trees! TREES EVERYWHERE. I really like how deatiled they are.

[@Marikyuun]

The internet was a very different place back then, and like someone already mentioned, people weren't like "educated" on how to be responsible with minors on websites I feel

[@laineydoodles9297]

I'll be honest, Mari, the pieces you made, traditional and digital are lovely, fetish implications aside. Please dont take that the wrong way. >>;

[@komiuziya]

You drew so well when you were 12, I just had my awakening in art

[@CrazyGreenFluff]

i still use deviantart! joined around 2013 or 2014 and it's been my main site for years. but there have been several purges, including the deviantart eclipse mass leaving and the "dream up" ai apocalypse. now, it seems like the only people left are the handful of casual artists, the professionals that get thousands of favorites a day, the fetish artists, and the ai artists. the casual artists are few and far between, the professionals wont commission the casuals, the fetish artists want free art thats extra creepy and the ai artists dont care about art. so, when i open commissions, i mostly see fetishists ignoring the big bold *no fetish art* on my journals :(

[@clowfai]

When you mentioned CLAMP I actually screamed because literally no one I know recognises them or their art ❤

[@thecriticalknight8646]

I was chronically on DeviantArt back in the early 2010s looking at the most random drawings. No wonder I recognise some of the drawings, the Madoka one is quite familiar.

[@ARRIANH]

Oh yeah, DeviantArt was a thing I nearly forgot that site exist So i have some weird interactions here and there but it was fun. The fun part is i met a lot of people (and sadly, most of them arent online anymore. Ah, i miss them sm), my art improved so much, uhhh, llama points The bad part is when people who request art from me (knowing im a minor that time. The requests are uh, weird), met a legit 60 year old s*x offender from Tennessee, an ex friend who despise oc x canon and gets angry when i draw one (cuz i was a hetalian back then im not even surpris), people trying to harrass me just because i vented that me and my friends got gr00med, people wanna rp me with my ocs because they think they're hot (even though they were minors and thought I am the OCs, LMFAO) Lmao, it was wild af

[@ragmamale4783]

thats a ride ya got back then alright

[@ARRIANH]

@@ragmamale4783 yeah, it sure is

[@carolinecheney]

One of my commissions(it was technically a request and it was the latest one)(that I didn’t do) was one that resulted in me blocking the deviant. The request was to draw my sona kissing his. I have NO idea how old he was, but I'm 17, so this one made me uncomfortable. I've been requested to draw characters kissing before, but this one made me uncomfortable cause it involved his and my sonas.

[@Marikyuun]

Nasty!!! I'm sorry that happened :(

[@carolinecheney]

@@Marikyuun it's okay. I'm over it now, but I'll never forget so I hopefully don't find someone like that again.

[@lafolleauxmostisma]

Yep fetish farm commissions happen to me when I was younger. I still do commission with fetish art but I say no to giantesses now XD

[@Seal_pupz]

Your acc is 18+ right...?

[@lafolleauxmostisma]

@@Seal_pupz not my main if that’s your question

[@anitacrumbly]

I vaguely remember when deviantart started i wanna say there was a lot emo kids making art and putting lyrics with their "i'm 14 and deep" artwork it was so funny and cute.

[@kopykit8871]

The two feet on two individual pedals is outrageous

[@Marikyuun]

You've never driven manual?

[@kopykit8871]

@@Marikyuun no because I'm under 16 and only learned from my father telling me what to not do

[@BaconNuke]

I wouldn't be surprised if people were purposely commissioning this kind art from younger teens *because* they wouldn't have an idea it could be fetish-y like.. if you look at art from someone who does and doesn't know about a thing.. the effort put in places is different.. wonder if they purposely wanted less effortful versions of a fetish since it wouldn't be as obvious It still boggles my mind that there was a "wonder bread guy" and I have no idea *what* his actually deal was.. like.. i only know the "nickname"

[@Juuniiee]

I saw the art you made when you were 12 and immediately said “I’ve gotta start working oh my gosh..” 😭😭

[@Melonjam_]

I used to do the exact same thing 😭😭 deviantart was so wild fr but the community was great tbh I have never been as motivated or inspired as I was back in those days 🙌

[@mintstarmari]

2010? I was a naive 10 year old with absolutely no idea on what to do in life (My passion for art and video games started in 2012-2014). I mostly remember going to a classmate's house for a school project/barbecue during the World Cup but that's all I can remember from that year.

[@Klomberrymen]

Heee Finalmente um artista português,gosto do teu conteúdo,continua amiga

[@mc.gemstone]

Beaides your weird typical art on there and even some amazing artwork too, I do really miss DA and the community they had on there. There wasn't just art but flash animations, games and even tons of dress up and OC creators too. It was definitely one of those you just had to be there to experience it all and I don't think we will ever get a site like that again and it sucks that it's become a shell of its formal self.

[@skye-silver]

Yay I’m happy to see you again, Mari.

[@Snuyybagel]

They're all weird asf lol (Also ur old art is still better than anything i can ever draw 💀)

[@Marikyuun]

My art from when I was 12 was the art of someone with 9 years of experience drawing several hours every day 💪 don't give up!

[@mila6589]

I'm pretty sure I also drew these "type" of art on DA without knowing.. like this dude that had this same scene from the cartoon The Rescuers drawn a bunch of times from different artists and I made the same piece for him.... the scene was when Miss bianca aka the mouse, was inside that huge piano and air was blowing on her face and her hair was all up. That is a very weird feti...

[@ConnerAnimationsOfficial]

I miss that 2010s.... Such better times. Mainly because of nostalgia

[@PixelByteSquad]

As someone who used to do commissions and YCHs for cents, gosh I kinda miss those old days on deviant art. I think once someone tried to say I was overcharging for and YCH (which was 35 points, mind you) and they paid less. I think I also didn't receive payments for an YCH but decided to stay shut. At least I'm glad I decided when I did do point commissions, to say that I won't do fetish art (I was already mentally scarred by fetish art)

[@SkydreamsArts]

Oh god, pedal pumping. I was having some car issues a few years back and posted a video on youtube demonstrating what my car was doing so I could post the link to a car subreddit. I forgot about it for a while and then suddenly the video had like 5k views. I tracked down where they were coming from and apparently it got posted in a pedal pumping fetish group. I was wearing jeans and skate shoes and all you saw of me in the video was my legs but people still used it as fetish content. People are weird, man. Also - where do people post art now? I've been on DeviantArt since the early 2000s, and my art has never really gotten many views, but for most of that time it was because it sucked. Now I've improved a lot, but I still don't get many views. Where should I be posting to increase my visibility?

[@Marikyuun]

No fucking shot that's SO CRAZY 💀💀💀 people are so weird! I think people have been using insta, Twitter and the likes for art nowadays, so the communities aren't fully art centric

[@epicriko]

I used to do comms for robux (roblox currency) and keep in mind 1 robux is like idk 1 cent or less, and i sold comms for 5 robux, 15-20 and sometimes even gave them for free 😭 and the worst part is that when you donate 5 robux 30% goes to the official Roblox account

[@sonicexe66613]

If i commissioned art (if i was a good artist), I would've put strict limitations on the art I'd draw. (Like no NSFW, no f3tish art, no gore, etc)

[@Marikyuun]

Yes, most artists do that nowadays! Also, these commissions weren't explained to me as f3tish art. These were adults taking advantage of clueless children who didn't know the implications of a foot on a pedal or a giant woman with a tiny guy...

[@sonicexe66613]

@@Marikyuun the giantess and tiny guy thing could be normal if there's no vore or anything like that

[@jacobharley8401]

Ahh, the weird side of DA. I've definitely been aware of it even before joining the site, but I have done my best to keep myself away. I don't do commissions and keep requests/trades/collabs to either close friends or people I trust. If any younger artists here decide to join DA, only do requests and stuff like that with people you've built trust with, and don't do anything you'll regret later.

[@فلسطين-ط5ت]

I literally know a game that it's art is all from DeviantArt, it's called Sanic Ball if you're wondering ^_^ fav game

[@enanshiinonome]

WAKE UP NEW MARIKYUUN VID POSTED

[@minthedeaddm]

Repressed memories about deviant art unlocked

[@Marikyuun]

You're welcome :3 /j

[@brunocalixto7449]

I love your Portuguese accent, Mari... Beijos do Brasil!!!

[@saraalshalabi842]

Mariana is from Portugal though 😭

[@brunocalixto7449]

@@saraalshalabi842 Eu sei q ela é de Portugal

[@Ally-Oozy]

MARI THE QUEEN HAS UPLOADED Also warikyuun has a crush on wario change my mind

[@Marikyuun]

Wha-- Where is this coming from?? LMAO people on my stream keep saying this as well

[@obz1357]

That's crazy 💀 that's actually crazy 💀 that's messed up 💀

[@BatMane95]

DeviantArt is pretty hit or miss since it has both the best and worst/most erm, interesting art I've ever seen

[@staroflight2982]

Dam I remember taking requests on deviantart and I remember someone was asking me to draw fetish fart and I rejected that now.

[@whoisthisguy362]

“What were you guys doing in 2010?” Me: Chilling in the darkness for 9 months

[@TinyGuy97]

At least they made you drew "tame" stuff instead of weird giantess art.

[@PaxTheCat]

I remember someone asking me if I am a foot fetishist, just because I posed a character(sitting afraid). The model had big feet, yet it is a stylistic choice(based on a game animal character). I can imagine, how many of the feet guys would "Enjoy" the innocent looking image.

[@PlushroomyGaming]

That's why i quit deviantart This one person kept requesting to draw one of my OCs but more fat 😭

[@RobloxKitchenReviews]

Literally yeah, around the same age, I did request for free and someone wanted me to draw miku and gumi(the vocaloids) standing on each other or something like that. Later down I think I use to to amino commissions for coins, girl I was rich 😭😭😭 I has that amino + I was that cool person you’d ask for coins

[@GAHAHAHH]

Doesn't matter what you charge whether or not someone buys it is all about statistics, charge $100.00 for a glass of lemonade and you may only sell one glass but you will only need to sell one glass to make just as much as if you sold 400 glasses for $0.25 not taking into account the cost of production. My advice is start your prices absurdly high and lower your price until you feel you are getting the right amount of work.

[@katieee_llyn]

Oh god the days of this cursed Art website 😭😭

[@The_Aesthetic_BunBun]

2010's i was ✨invisible ✨ "ooh i was invisible:0" -Bingo from Bluey

[@LucyKOTP]

Grass is green

[@saraalshalabi842]

Not Bluey 💀

[@The_Aesthetic_BunBun]

​@@LucyKOTP what if it's blue?

[@kingnightmarevin]

In 2010, I was starting Grade 1 or 2. Probably learning cursive

[@cosmicdib4823]

Ahh man. I hopped on DA new year's eve 2019 when i was 13 and a week later someone asked me to draw KO from Ok KO as a giant and after I did the commission I had to act as a fucking therapist and I had to ask this guy to get help for his fetish. Also looking back at my notes, he asked me multiple times and then I turned him down and he replied "sorry" and went back home to his crusty basement with his tail in between his legs. I basically never took requests again and every time I open them thinking I'll do one, I'll receive a request and then not do it LOL Edit: he called me his "good friend" YUCK

[@Stopstalkingme862]

0:12 I was sticking my fingers into outlets and crying…I was two-

[@LucyKOTP]

Back in 2010 i was playing with my toy tractors and trucks *anime ahhh* good old day 😊

[@Transmasc_Link]

New marikyuun video dropped!!

[@GoldenBunny669]

0:09 I wasn’t even born yet

[@Wilcza_]

Deviantart is nice place but also wild place 💀

[@murlocmaster6192]

i have watched way too many videos that play Miror B's theme, dammit i want Genius Sonority back

[@pnintetr]

I love Princess Peach Showtime :)

[@VanniStillDraw]

Absolutely devastated that I “Library of Alexandria’d” my DeviantArt page cause I will never get relive those insane comments 😭😭

[@Marikyuun]

NOOOOO that's actually depressing :( especially losing the old art

[@pokeminion64]

Goddamn, 2010 I wasn’t even in school yet, maybe pre-k but don’t really know or care too much lol. Either way that’s wild to think about bc now I’m graduating and have an internship as a lead artist for a game studio :)

[@strangehobbyist]

I’m looking to delete my dA accounts soon as possible. Most of the time viewers claim to support your content, when in reality they only want to see body parts inflate and for reasons I’d much rather not find out…😵

[@CatastrophicKitsune]

You have my condolences.

[@SChuyitoyJoseC]

In The 2010's i was playing Super Mario Flash Games

[@justMisty4never]

I LOVE. UR VIDS SMMMMM❤❤❤❤❤

[@FNFortuneAlt]

back in 2010 i was totally like alive

[@-BubblyArt-]

2$ for a piece that took 20hours is the most deviant art thing I have ever heard of

[@impancak]

OH LORD LMAO LOVE YOUR VIDEOS

[@monikasalt]

The coney beginning i love coney

[@SLAVKINGRED]

i found an oil prince

[@britishmushroom]

Ahh yes 2010, I was 13 years old and on Deviantart and Latale daily being an anime nerd 🤓

[@JutaLovelace]

Oh that reminds me of that one art commission, that at the time I had no idea was fetish art. Dude asked me to draw a furry shaped beach ball floating in the pool and years later I realized it was inflation fetish... 🥲

[@Marikyuun]

RIP 😭

[@SincereSneakyy]

AYO THE MONSTER HUNTER VICTORY FLARE 💯

[@Gendgi]

My art is not good enough so I am still on DA lol, thanks for the video :D

[@ChisaBero]

I was just turning 18 in 2010, 4 years in the furry fandom at that point, when I say it was hell on that site 😊

[@Marikyuun]

Goodness, was Furaffinity any better for you? I've heard good things about that site from the furry community

[@kurokie3691]

Ahh, (Not) Good ol days in Deviantart

[@stolkeyna]

Did the smol Mari get her goal though?

[@Marikyuun]

Oh yeah I got like 4 years of premium cause sometimes they held "buy one get two" discounts 💪

[@TechnologyTransmission7476]

@@MarikyuunI Share Is😎

[@korycolors346]

not me focusing on the bayonetta music

[@takarin64]

Culture.

[@jimjimson6208]

bro I remember going on deviantart and seeing pictures like this and thinking "who on god's earth is drawing these?'. I guess now I know 💀💀💀

[@Marikyuun]

Clueless children that's who!!!

[@Smail_isma.8l]

I was just casually chilling in m'y mom's belly,no school no problems,ah good all times

[@adrians.avenue]

$2?? HUH? WHAT?

[@RetroNekoArt]

2010...i was raising my kid he was 1 year old x,D and i was 22

[@LucyKOTP]

Don't the grass is green today 👍

[@Ihartraccoons]

@@LucyKOTPwh

[@kokoakoo]

PROJECT SEKAI FAN SPOTTED AT THE END🗣🔥‼️ btw, where do i upload the fanarts??

[@Marikyuun]

Peep the video description ☺️

[@clampfan101]

Do you take commissions elsewhere now? Your art style is SO cute!

[@MaakaSakuranbo]

"is this you?" Yeah, you found it, out, the artist is secretly a bunny girl

[@TheHitsubasa]

HNNNHH NOT ME REMEMBERING BEING 12 OR 13 AND ALSO BEING TRICKED INTO DRAWING FETISH ART HNGH it was vore and I didn’t realize until I was way way older ooooof

[@Marikyuun]

We're all in this together 😭

[@GachaNews-Luni]

Ah, 2010, the year I didn’t exist.

[@ilikecatsandwonderhoy]

i thought i wouldnt rlly be able to do commission bc im very young but after i found out about this im prob gonna try!!! but mari? what website/app do u recommend for art commissions?:0

[@Marikyuun]

After watching my awful experiences with perverted adults you were INSPIRED to do the same???

[@sailingthemwebslmao]

2010 was that long ago? I feel like a fossil fr fr

[@PFX.]

Uh you know Coney?!? Noice 😊

[@Marikyuun]

I have a photo with him! On my "drawing art for my fav video game" video

[@4lexa_washere]

2010 was when I was born lmfao

[@subekyuuke]

wait hold on YOU WERE DOING COMMS FOR IRL MONEY AT 16-17??? i'm 16 and i'm too scared of my mum's reaction to even do GIFT CARD COMMS wtf O_o

[@Marikyuun]

I spoke to my parents about it and we went to the bank and stuff to get me a Paypal account at the time and see how it could be done. I never hid it from my parents lmao they helped

[@karotconcarne3325]

From 0.60 to 40, look what inflation did to this world ;D