M: Why are you so nonchalant?! L: Well thats because im happy now! I felt that...
@nakedpotato98942 жыл бұрын
I didn't felt that... But i would like to
@carso15002 жыл бұрын
Hololive is like a dream come true for this girls
@kukiiro86012 жыл бұрын
I want to feel that too
@himawaricopter2 жыл бұрын
Some things that didn't make it into the clip: * Marine tried to clarify that she doesn't think her company was that shady (chat disagrees), like she wasn't working 100hrs per week. But they did pay bonuses in fruit instead of cash and had semi-monthly "brainwashing meetings" * How she quit: at one point, fortunes changed at the company and people started quitting in droves, so she got worried the company would go under... but it survived. * They were made to feel that they were utterly replaceable by management even though that didn't seem to be true, so she was like "k" and quit. * At Lui's company the normal employee case load was 20 per month, and she was working 60, but eventually got saddled with 100 like she says in this clip. * She was subject to "service overtime" which is basically illegal mandatory overtime without pay * Lui was working at her terrible old job until shortly before she got hired at Cover * Lui quit under similar circumstances, once a lot of other people started quitting she also realized her work would just be done by someone else * They felt kind of bad for the coworkers and lower managers but were satisfied to see their abusive bosses suffer, plus they could just hire new people if they needed * For reference, the first train is 5am and the last train is midnight to 1am. So Lui was working 2 hours from home and only had 3-4 hours to commute and sleep
@noahui51482 жыл бұрын
Damn i cant imagine something like this happen to me. I dont think i can hold it longer.
@qbk002 жыл бұрын
@@noahui5148 I quit right away
@lordofrims2 жыл бұрын
20 work hours and most likely minimum payment and living in a rundown apartment with paper thin walls I can imagine why there are lots of hikkikomori and suicides even if they don't become universitary Ronin trying again and again to pass entrance tests year through year these kind of company policies and the don't stand out and be one with the cog mindset will probably grind your soul to dregs and ashes.
@richter19342 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the extra details. It really adds more context to the clip.
@Lugia212 жыл бұрын
I kinda was going through the same, I was working 89 hours a week at minimum wadge but at least I got paid overtime for it but no paid vacations, only 1 day a week free and no actual exit time, we could be leaving at 10 PM or at 2 AM and that's in the US, not many complain but yeah even in the US happens.
@axlzx97012 жыл бұрын
That's so sad and horrible, glad these 2 got away from that toxic environment. But can you imagine others that suffer this.... It sucks
@raka19962 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, this kind of thing is all common there, they'll hit you with 'your coworker still in the office, you sure you wanna go home?' kind of tactic to make the employees to overwork without additional payments
@Blazuchan2 жыл бұрын
@@raka1996 true and real.
@BRBingeDrinker2 жыл бұрын
yep. I think JP work culture is one of the worst, if not THE worst. Need a shift. Old people in charge teaching the younger gens about their fucked up ideals. Thankfully I think the younger gen is wising up to the bullshit. It'll be a long time before we see change tho.
@LeonardoTheMomo2 жыл бұрын
Its really sad that even to this day it's being encouraged. As Lui said, her parents tought her "one company for a lifetime" which is super normal. Society and employers dont like it if you worked in many companies or changed jobs more than 3 o 4 times you are seen as unreliable.
@BRBingeDrinker2 жыл бұрын
@@LeonardoTheMomo I'm thankful that at least in the USA it isn't like that. It is for some places but not to the extent like JP. If I get a job offer for better pay, better hours, and better conditions, you bet your ass im moving over.
@TimewithRen2 жыл бұрын
Having survived a similar work condition with Lui's and Marine's for 3 years, I can honestly say, leaving is the best decision I've made so far in my life. Then again, those 3 years tempered my mentality in both good and bad ways. The hardships make me stronger and able to work more efficiently due to the workload, yes. But I'm still feeling a tinge of guilt and shame if I'm not working on something or doing something useful or productive. Even taking the time to cook and eat properly feels a bit like a waste of time in the back of my mind, since I should be able to work on stuffs within the time spent on cooking and eating. Started working freelance since last year, and it's indeed a slow start, but it feels amazing to have your own life back in your hands. Will slowly compose and nurture myself back to actually enjoy life again.
@butterkukki2 жыл бұрын
After Lui-nee left that black company i can’t even imagine the worker that fill in for Lui-nee’s position..this is so sad. Thankfully Lui-nee left & she’s happy now.
@shinodamasaru79452 жыл бұрын
"Job Changing Pirates" for all employees who change their job for better condition. Wish all people good luck and stay healthy
@Mordecrox2 жыл бұрын
Why they are being called pirates for something that's common, accepted and even enforced? Being told since 2004 that no one is irreplaceable and it workers are especially replaceable, so no skin on my back when I learn I'm taking the position of someone who literally walked out, and might walk out too. I wish the best performance (not luck, because this is planned) to these managers.
@Yuu-Na2 жыл бұрын
I wish i can watch the whole stream with full translation A wholesome stream indeed
@namvo30132 жыл бұрын
Shabby sub is a channel which translate a lot of Marin video
@Bulletmoaf2 жыл бұрын
@@namvo3013 they used to translate a lot of clips similar to this, yeah, but they had IRL stuff happen and have only posted once in the last few months, while the archive is very nice we might not see any more from them, sad but true.
@CaptainToastedC2 жыл бұрын
It really feels like Tanigo finds talented people who have problems, like he seems to want to help people as much as possible in his own way
@circularangle43242 жыл бұрын
Holy heck it hit me hard when she said "that's because I'm happy now"
@chenxingjie89922 жыл бұрын
1 life 1 work it still in my parent mind set as well, they think it's a blessing to get hired, so you should be grateful for that and be 100% faithful to that company, in which i totally disagree and sometime i have heated argument with them.
@InnocentC02 жыл бұрын
I used to have that mindset until the reality hit me hard with it. Even you work hard, but, if nobody care about your mentality, it's fruitless. You will feel like you are just replaceable gear at that point.
@LeonardoTheMomo2 жыл бұрын
@@InnocentC0 companies only care about the money. They make hundreds of time the amount they pay you with your work. Your feelings, loyalty and years on the company doesn't matter to them.
@raikou202 жыл бұрын
True, nowadays (atleast in my country) you can get up to a 5x increase in your salary by jumping between companies.
@Fishman4652 жыл бұрын
The issue is the time where that was true in Japan had long since passed, a likely causality o the lost decade. in many jobs over there, an employee is just a cog that will be replaced when it breaks. But it's a terrible common problem of parents being stuck in the past. I remember my mother acting like it was possible to apply and get a job right then and there
@Haiyami2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a bad attitude to have. It's good to be thankful to that company for hiring you in the first place, at that time. But the thing I don't believe in, is those feelings should guilt trip you into staying with a company if something better comes along. It's always good to be thankful that we can work and provide for ourselves but it also doesn't mean we need to become mindless sheeps to a corporate overlord that may make our life miserable. Loyalty is earned, not a requirement. And even if a company treats you well, there may be just something better that comes along. I will never forget my roots and where I started out from. For instance I won't forget my first crappy job that got me started in te work force. Each bit of experience we gain is necessary and makes us who we are. So being thankful to that past is a good thing. But I'm just repeating myself. So yeah. Don't let those feelings become chains! Guilt tripping is bad!
@AverageBear-ly2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I was hoping someone was going to clip this part. I couldn't understand all of it with my zako japanese. Lui-nee T_T, very glad she's in a better place.
@tomatojuices53402 жыл бұрын
You sounds like she is dead lmao.. But yeah, glad she is in a better place now
@ekapaulus59152 жыл бұрын
@@tomatojuices5340 for real tho her body should be broken nvm her mind and mental. The feelings of just floating around while being in pain is just like dying man. So yeah glad she in better place.
@zircunious2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you two got away from toxic environments like that. 😔 😥
@SilverScizor7532 жыл бұрын
I love her description of HoloX is just "they're all a bunch of fools but I love them" Glad Lui got out of that mess, bc man I would've quit the first day if I had to do even half of that. Thanks for the subs!
@イシモチ-c7n2 жыл бұрын
It's the reason why otherworldly reincarnation is so popular in our country.
@Delheoblanc2 жыл бұрын
one time i got a job offer to work in japan for a year or so, then i anonymously asked some of the native employee about how the company operated, to my suprises it was very inefficient, not to mention mismanagement and dysfunctional HR, compared to other companies abroad. I wonder if its because the higher ups are those of long ended era?
@BRBingeDrinker2 жыл бұрын
@@Delheoblanc Not a jp native, but that would be my guess. Older folks with a lot of ancient ideals about work culture. JP work culture is the fuckin worst. It's the reason I would only visit, but never live there.
@LeonardoTheMomo2 жыл бұрын
Japanese people need to start protesting and asking for change more. The way things are in the working environment of Japan is so toxic it will be bad not only for you but for all future generations. You have the most inneficient working hours in the world. And when someone complains they are asked to suffer in silent and not disrespect tradition and the senpais/elderly.
@makotoyuki97602 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's why some isekai using business man or woman as their main characters. This is kinda sad, imagine you want to raise the birth rate in Japan but some people didn't have a free time for finding a couple because they worked in a black company
@Delheoblanc2 жыл бұрын
@@BRBingeDrinker indeed, what really shows the old ideas is that all of them warn me about the "alcoholism" where you are forced to drink and serve your higherups after work hours even if you puke out, they still going to force you to drink. i grew up with low alcohol tolerance, hence why i rejected the offers.
@deeb85692 жыл бұрын
Lol when Lui said chloe is "like that"
@Haiyami2 жыл бұрын
Kowa! Lui-nee's experience in working for the office is scary. It makes me feel blessed on how strictly enforced the labor laws are in America when I was working in an office 8 to 5 office job. Though 2020 did a lot of bad things do to disease and all, I ended up having to leave that company. But Lui-nee's experience just sounds like it was awful. Again I feel blessed and I am glad Lui-nee is in a better company.
@iJakku2 жыл бұрын
I can relate even as someone from the USA, my health decline from working those 6 years in my old job, I don't think i would live very long being there.
@Togno942 жыл бұрын
She's a friccking saint...
@Filcayra722 жыл бұрын
A reminder that Hololive has made the lives of many of the girls SOOOOOO much better. Fight for to protect those smiles. And treat everyone with respect ✊
@cyechan502 жыл бұрын
I've told people about some of the girl rl backstorirs and they don't believe me!
@Filcayra722 жыл бұрын
@@cyechan50 Subaru’s is easily one of the most life changing stories. Kanaka and Marine are up there. Haachama is on a recovery after the Australia arc, but uhh…. Wow the Haatons are a powerful crowd considering the mental training arc she’s giving them. But I’m side tracking. Hololive is a leg up for many of these girls and those “little miss company hire” haters don’t understand the struggle it takes to stand out in this field.
@kaiogiovanni2 жыл бұрын
You guys might not consider this one, but I think one of the most extreme case is Aqua. Not to offend her or anything, but can you imagine how her life would be without Hololive? She's basically an antisocial hikikomori and I can't even imagine her working as a 'salaryman'.
@Ms666slayer2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure if Aqua was never hired by Cover she would be a Hikikimori still living with her mom probably without a job.
@Maycelee2 жыл бұрын
On a serious note though, i am so glad that all of that is in the past. T^T Must protect lui-nee
@mingyenwu96212 жыл бұрын
Oh poor Lui :( I'm glad she said she's happy now!
@peeradettanawiwat71932 жыл бұрын
That explains why she slept just only 2-3 hours like what Chloe said.
@victorjun24212 жыл бұрын
And to think she was one of the few lucky ones who managed to escape that environment, while god knows how many others are still stuck there...
@KandiKid872 жыл бұрын
Oof. One of those sad "I can relate" moments. But she's okay these days it seems. ❤️
@nyperold75302 жыл бұрын
Good for her, that she's where she is now. From all accounts, the only way you can say she's in a black company now is in her lore, and that's not even that much.
@concern58102 жыл бұрын
"One company for a lifetime" this is like the most Asian thing ever, especially if your family has track record of being all doctors, lawyers, engineers and public servant. the head of the clan which is usually the grandparents would insist their kids(your parents) that their kids should also be in the same field or such.
@Sam.N2 жыл бұрын
I am very fortunate that I'm born in Germany (with Chinese background). My parents don't understand why I'm always quitting my job for almost every two years. And they don't have any high degree. They think that I'm not doing great at my job. But the truth is: I'm getting more salary each time I'm changing the company (except the times when I get a decent increase)
@tarouyamada93512 жыл бұрын
Luiが言うようなsuper hard workに加えて、「サービス残業(service overtime work)=overtime work without pay」というbad habitもある。 ただ、for the last about 10 years でillegalになってきている。At least, no one I know is like that these days.
@the1darknight2 жыл бұрын
The whole, "Oh! So you're a job-hopper, eh?" is still a huge stigma supposedly in Japan. Many prospective employers in Japan are so blind they can care less if you were tortured every day in your last job or not, in their eyes they believed Lui's parents' philosophy of "1 company for life", but I think her parents incorrectly adapted, or failed to adapt, such an old idea from 100+ years ago in Japan when a person DID work their entire life in a certain trade, back when companies were less common and the independent-lone-tradesman was very common, in addition to those who worked in a company (working a trade) stayed around at that company....but there were so few companies back then! This is how a Japanese tradition that has failed to adapt to modern work in a modern Japanese has failed so many of them, causing overwork and mental health issues, and suicides, while so many are afraid of not conforming until it breaks *them* personally. The Diet passed laws to stop this overwork BS, but like so many things they pass, unless there's stricter enforcement at last, nothing will change---and that's a very sad outcome for modern Japan. 😢
@badwulff2 жыл бұрын
Karoshi, right?
@thejamesonthestreet2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Senchou, Lui must have been highly competent on her field. Sadly, her superiors abused it and overworked her. I bet they also took credits for all Lui's work. This type of shit done by those people is what making a lot of competent people become disillusioned with their job and life.
@ashle90342 жыл бұрын
I imagine there are many in the chat going through the same workplace abuse right now.
@BRBingeDrinker2 жыл бұрын
"One company for a lifetime" sounds like the same garbage my grandparents used to parrot. "Company loyalty". God damn I really hope for a shift in work culture for USA, and especially in JP.
@lucasriley8742 жыл бұрын
It was different time for your Grandparents, people who stayed at one place got promoted. They could potentially work their way up from sweeping floors to running half the company with a little luck, hard work and time invested. That doesn't happen anymore, a company hires you to sweep the floor you'll still be sweeping the same floor 40 years later. There just isn't ANY reason for workers to have 'loyalty' anymore in the modern working world. Things have changed and many 'Grandparents' don't understand those changes.
@BRBingeDrinker2 жыл бұрын
@@lucasriley874 Exactly what I'm saying. They don't move on with the times. Companies in the USA still bank on exploiting that kind of mindset too. The problem is people like that are heads of companies in JP.
@danielleasewala22252 жыл бұрын
@@BRBingeDrinker Japanesse companies are also still big on hiring within. Specifically in the gaming sector, the majority of big name CEOs and executives for say nintendo currently where promoted internally, either directly from within the company or from affilated ones like hall or game freak. It's why the quality of pokemon dropped like a rock their for abit, the dev team and leadership during the GBA-DS era was all hired into nintendo and promoted to executive posts. The difference is Black Companies are designed to exploit the fuck out of that, but they infact are not the norm for JP companies and thats why their so predator as it preys on how he society functions and acts like a parasite within an otherwise largely functional structure.
@Haiyami2 жыл бұрын
I'm mixed because I hate the interview process. I hate changing my resume for every single company submission I do. That's why when I do get hired I feel grateful to being hired. But I wouldn't remain grateful if I was exploited. But for me it's hard getting jobs in the first place. So when I do get a job I'm thankful for it and if it is a hard job to do that's tough on mental and physical, I'll stick it out as long as possible because I dread the application process. If I had more confidence in my ability to sell myself I would be hopping jobs a lot more often until i could settle into one I won't end up hating in the long run.
@BRBingeDrinker2 жыл бұрын
@@Haiyami I have a much different outlook. If I'm being treated like shit, i'll quit. I've left a lot of jobs because of just shitty management and I don't regret it at all. I keep a template of my resume, it's easy to edit and print. Although cover letters have to be written out for each place I apply to, but it's not a big deal to me. The interview process is always pretty hard for me though. My mental and physical health over a job any damn day tbh. I'm glad I'm able to make that choice still.
@yamiRic2 жыл бұрын
that is horrible... uuhh.. I can't imagine going through something like that in my life. I'll always make sure to check on every contracts and NDA that I signed so that companies won't be able to bind me for years.
@ouroboros18092 жыл бұрын
Oh man. Im glad shes doing better now tho
@schokoladereee2 жыл бұрын
I need to hug Lui right now
@hayateayasaki72712 жыл бұрын
0:25 Marine's face: ok 0:27 Also Marine's face: o.o .
@animapch11982 жыл бұрын
I just hope they both always happy from now on
@eugenefindit2 жыл бұрын
Lui: - Talks about black company: *Manual Sad* - Someone mentions chicken: *Auto Sad* 😁
@konoskubos16412 жыл бұрын
Its experiances you have like these that when they tell you "youll have to work a 10 hour shift" youre like im vacationing
@Fishman4652 жыл бұрын
This turned out to be quite a collab (Two older sisters meeting up)
@daodolong2 жыл бұрын
Lui has nerves of steel , there are people working in regular companies contemplating suicide because work is hard for them .
@hexmech18932 жыл бұрын
I was one of those people. The job wasn't glamorous nor was it what I wanted/expected.
@CsRacks2 жыл бұрын
I love lui and I'm glad marine has her now
@cookieeaturface2 жыл бұрын
Don't know how it is in Japan, but in the US you're holding yourself back if you don't switch employers every few years. Only way to reliably increase your pay.
@janarcangel492 жыл бұрын
Villain origin story tier. Makes sense that she joined HoloX in lore now. lol
@yd_2 жыл бұрын
I’ve only had fairly extreme experiences with Japanese companies. One had management which was mostly incompetent. Perhaps they tried to emulate ‘Western’ management practices. They couldn’t get much done well, things were often disorganized, and there was often insufficient critical thought applied to ideas before implementation Another was family owned I believe, or at least had strong roots. Management wasn’t optimal either, but things were better thought out and I thought meetings were productive and tasks were clear and assigned to the appropriate people. For perspective, some of the best management I’ve experienced was from 20 some year old college students.
@f1r3hunt3rz52 жыл бұрын
That's one of the big reasons I don't wanna live in Japan. Visiting as a tourist, yes, but I doubt I'd click in with the work culture there.
@moonmun2 жыл бұрын
God, I can't imagine living like that for more than a week. These ladies are strong ; w ;
@ブヒヒヒ2 жыл бұрын
Literally work for 20 hours holy sheesh
@lqfr88132 жыл бұрын
no wonder some ppl choose death over living there, they have been taught that it is normal
@Gorbz2 жыл бұрын
I've worked for a companyblike that, only it was just me and the boss. And the boss did not want to do anything except drive around in his car.
@InnocentC02 жыл бұрын
I feel that. You tried your best on the first company you enter and it's black company. It's like you play game on the public server. But, opposite team are pros and teammates blame you for the cause.
@juanma98682 жыл бұрын
Man i would never ever complain about my shitty work enviroment...
@ButtonHasher2 жыл бұрын
Damn, how'd Lui even find time and energy to work towards Hololive.
@datemasamune29042 жыл бұрын
Someone Marine can properly relate with. XD
@Panjangl2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a friend who dedicated her life to work, made her customers happy at the cost of her happiness,her time, her health both physically and mentally. In the end she grew old alone and was abandoned by said company because she fell sick from over work. Meanwhile kaigainikis have such concept of work life balance its kinda….
@starryairpool18012 жыл бұрын
Now we know that both of them old than other member ... 😆
@adminPAO12 жыл бұрын
the canine hologirls are still the oldest I think.
@Zylosio2 жыл бұрын
@@adminPAO1 the oldest is feline tho
@ivanbluecool2 жыл бұрын
Two oba San I mean Nee sans talking about their experiences working. Nice.
@MugendramonX22 жыл бұрын
Lui nee 😭
@boros44102 жыл бұрын
3:38 Iroha is zoro's descendant? 👀
@daaawwwaaa2 жыл бұрын
You must get burnt out real fast working like that…
@Sedkitgar2 жыл бұрын
Must protect.
@ラウスハロルド Жыл бұрын
There is a Japanese proverb that says that a capable hawk hides its claws. In the end, people who are young and talented beyond their age are forced to do all sorts of tasks no matter what department they join. He's too talented, and there aren't enough people, so he's relied on, but conveniently, he's used like a jack-of-all-trades. Therefore, in the Japanese workplace, it is wise to hide your true abilities.
@fredreno12392 жыл бұрын
Certain swordsmaster lack sense of direction? Job changing Pirates? Blackcomp? Hawk that take care of swordmaster ? Hmm doesn't ring a bell . Gomen
@arcaixsaberhand2 жыл бұрын
**hugs Lui-Lui**
@teguhharyadi77412 жыл бұрын
maybe one madlad hololive fans can actually track down that black company who abuse Lui chan that bad it's a sad situation. but believe me. I'm not sad at all. I'm furious. how the hell a company runs like that
@MainGoldDragon2 жыл бұрын
so they weren't in the same company
@konodioda69692 жыл бұрын
Kazama has no sense of direction? Wears mostly green? Samurai? Wait... ...if my memory is right, Zoro didn't have any siblings right? Or a child even?
@hikun28372 жыл бұрын
Lui describing her genmates is so specific 😂 dmn marine use sad bgm right in kokoro
@Syncopia2 жыл бұрын
"ah yeah, I had to a month's worth of work in a day but it wasn't THAT black of a company" guys I think Lui is broken.
@dewaputra92512 жыл бұрын
2hours? so if many worker retire at same time Im sure the company will done
@TheDarkizer2 жыл бұрын
my brother also work in black company too once. but instead giving ton of workload, his job is to scam other company (partner) . they prolong their project to make a provider tower but make it delayed as much as possible . my brother name really getting bad (although he only work there for 1 month +) idk why he accept a job that in manager position without any experience + different with his degree. i already told him its a scam.
@ULAER2 жыл бұрын
Wow it sure is nice that she doesnt work for one anym- oh wait.
@BintangAz2 жыл бұрын
No body : At Chat : "Hay Kak Aku orang indo" bngst ngakak we 😂
@tokugeeky29312 жыл бұрын
Man this sound rough. Black company really is no joke people can die from overworking like this.
@named62712 жыл бұрын
🥀
@pineapplelord24222 жыл бұрын
anyone knows how long she worked for that black company? also what does the company do in terms of service etc
@syaasy992 жыл бұрын
Black company or not, trash client is always there. Sometimes, I had to do 3 times the work amount for the same operation but for different clients, they like to add some stupid requirement sometimes
@motif_32532 жыл бұрын
*HoloX is a black company* Ah yes, Towa-sama’s journey to conquer HoloX makes sense now
@Peetwenty2 жыл бұрын
Lui is such a sweetheart..
@anotter3212 жыл бұрын
What is a "black company".
@yuripiske54652 жыл бұрын
is a type of company in Japan where you work long hours and normally dont get paid well.
@vaniavampy2 жыл бұрын
Can google it...but in general its a company that exploits the employees by usually overworking them
@BlackOnyx7772 жыл бұрын
a bad company who exploits their employee excessively (binding them via contracts etc) they can somehow operate within legal law
@anotter3212 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. I can't reply to all who awnser so this public one will do!
@AthosJosue2 жыл бұрын
It's not that different from your average non-unionized american company, where they can fire you without a reason or overwork you without extra payment, except that the labor laws on America are much more lenient in favor of the employee.
@trelos74312 жыл бұрын
Why good sword man have no sense of direction.
@DragonSamurai1822 жыл бұрын
So HoloX isn’t a BLACK company just dark gray.
@mysteriousguy252 жыл бұрын
The only black thing about HoloX is the company logo 😆
@opphiucus2 жыл бұрын
I think the managerial in HoloX is too PON to be a black company as seen how four out of five of the elite members got bullied by an angelic devil in board games.
@duster44410012 жыл бұрын
when you trying to rebuild black company inside hololive but the light too strong like there sora, subaru, TMT and even yagoo
@opphiucus2 жыл бұрын
@@Suzushiirou at this point KFP is more like a black hole company where none of the employee can't escape.
@Pkfn7202 жыл бұрын
so does marine ever told his blackcomp story?
@hello-im2 жыл бұрын
Sexual harrasment and thus most of the girl that fall victim ended up in porn industry.
@khestal2 жыл бұрын
Man this is probably out of the blue but goddamn if I love Senchou
@dho54112 жыл бұрын
When you survie some of the worst company atmosphere in the role, it is understandable that she lost the ability to complain about anything, tbh.
@ilikehiking2 жыл бұрын
Can someone elaborate what exactly it is that stops Japanese people from saying no? I know there are significant cultural differences, but I still fail to comprehend why people do not stand up for themselves when things get this bad. Do they not have unions in Japan? I have had to stand up for myself several times in my career and it has always worked out in my favour. Being assertive in a calm rational way really helps your career.
@bobbobber48102 жыл бұрын
I don't know Japan really well if I can imagine... If I was growing up with everyone telling me to work insanely hard without complaining... and I was watching around me and see everyone do exactly that... Maybe I would have done the same. If you don't know better, you think this is normal.
@Ms666slayer2 жыл бұрын
Is mostly culture that anything, there’s this stuff about being loyal to the company and do everything you can for them etc. is so ingrained that even if those practices are illegal most workers are never going to say anything because that’s “lack of loyalty”, the good thing is that black companies have been declining and people mostly young people are getting aware that that style of company culture is just bullshit, so probably in a few more generations black companies would be something super rare.
@anzero57622 жыл бұрын
Wow japan sure scary
@ASOTFAN162 жыл бұрын
wait what does black company mean here?
@CosplayjapaneseGirl22 жыл бұрын
Basically a company that exploit workers like make them work over time and without extra pay or free time.
@namvo30132 жыл бұрын
Lui worked as much as 3 people, and received salary for 1. Just because she can quit and find another job do not mean she doesn't needed to be protected
@ramadhanizzulhaq2 жыл бұрын
3 people + higher-ups + receiving complaints + L + ratio
@5ucccccc2 жыл бұрын
Bruh Japan gotta change
@xcjsmith5310 Жыл бұрын
The fact that there is still these black companies in Japan is the reason why no foreigners like to work there. I wanted to go Japan to work but hearing all these thing make me so scared that I joined a black company and they hold me hostage. So scary. Also the mum say one company whole life is so bullshit. Don’t do that unless the company is very very good to you in term of welfare and remuneration. Please Japan change your ways
@kukuc96 Жыл бұрын
BTW, I think "black company" leaves a translation gap. I don't think that term is used in english, at least I have never heard it before. Not sure there is a good translation for the concept. I guess we would call them "shitty companies". In the IT world specifically, there is a term "WITCH" which is an acronym of the 5 largest and most known consulting agencies known for bad working conditions, and sub-par pay, but that's now universal to all industries.
@Berstich2 жыл бұрын
Black companies only work because of the culture in Japan. They bow to peer pressure and feel bad if they are doing things different from co-workers. I would go home after 8 hours. Peer pressure or your bosses giving you more work, or even shit work? Thats fine, whatever you want me to do in 8 hours. But im gone after that.
@Adiarby132 жыл бұрын
When People talk about black companies they always associate it with Japan, but what crazy is in term of workers right and abusive work environment, which is also translated to "black companies" environment, USA is the worst aka at the bottom rank with Japan came as 2nd worse only slightly better. Unpaid leave, unpaid vacation, "almost" fulltime positions, underpaid staffs, relying on tipping etc etc etc