Without raiders, sailors wouldn't have an excuse to get drunk at paddle parties.
@wombat393411 ай бұрын
Man you Americans have fighters for everything. Coolest thing we have (which is badass) is our SAS, kinda jealous. Much love you legends, from down under ❤
@killionalexander3011 ай бұрын
Well America isnt a country. It's 50 war tribes with the defense budget to take on god
@depter816511 ай бұрын
You got more than SAS thats just the most known
@jamiephillips593011 ай бұрын
I'm sure they train to do everything.
@RabidPrimeape11 ай бұрын
SAS and SBS are absolute badasses. Americans have great respect for the British armed forces.
@batalorian799711 ай бұрын
You have more than SAS. You also have people like the Royal Marine Commandoes
@Kezoman111 ай бұрын
U.S. Marines NEVER referred to themselves as “soldiers”. They will accept “Marine” or “Warrior” or even “jar head” but NEVER “soldier’
@djangomarine665811 ай бұрын
Will also accept leatherneck, devil dog, devil, killer, and cocky M F er. 😂
@elevenb69678 ай бұрын
Soldiers, and marines are literally one and the same. The word marine simply means of, or relating to the sea. When you get to the land to fight the enemy, as a NATION, you're no longer on the sea. Therefore, you're just like soldiers. Nobody really cares what you call yourselves.
@elgusaniiiodeljuego68237 ай бұрын
Why? 🤔
@zackaryhunt58516 ай бұрын
@@elgusaniiiodeljuego6823 because people in the army are soldiers, marines are marines
@crazestyle836 ай бұрын
@@elgusaniiiodeljuego6823ego mostly and a touch of brainwashing necessary to face combat which a byproduct is massive ego and over confidence. They don't like being compared to someone with a brain. 😂
@rltw11 ай бұрын
Special Forces is not a "Catch-All" phrase of all the military elite units. Special Forces are Army Green Berets that specialize in Unconventional Warfare. The "Catch-All" phrase is Special Operations or Operators.
@dionthomas541811 ай бұрын
As a American Patriot, Marine Raiders and Navy SEALs are both badass unconventional Warfare specialists Amphibious Shadow Warriors defending America against all enemies everywhere by any means necessary at all times and all costs through out the history American Special ops. Fearless Special operators always stay ready for victory in times of War, train smarter, stronger and more importantly more deadlier than the enemies of freedom and America. Both of them are never out of the fight.
@egret165711 ай бұрын
Neither SEALs nor Marine Raider conduct unconventional warfare. That mission/expertise is limited to the Green Berets i.e., Army Special Forces.
@MA-sm7kl7 ай бұрын
@@egret1657 ur wrong seals and GB"s do unconventional warfare raiders, rangers, recon, are direct action force
@williamsmith879011 ай бұрын
MARSOC has a completely different profile to the SEAL teams. A better comparison would be between Force Recon and SEALs.
@dallasyap306411 ай бұрын
The re-establishment of Marine Corps SOF in 2006 was more of a political or bureaucratic move, as Marine Corps leaders saw how their marines were left out from all the fighting in the early stages of the Afghanistan invasion 2001, as most fighting were done by SOFs, which the Marine Corps lacked. This led them to initiate Det 1, a pilot program to determine the suitability of a USMC element operating under SOCOM, which led to the creation of MSOB in 2006. However, they don't bring anything new on the table that SOCOM doesn't already have. But of course, Marine Raiders are still an effective unit with accomplishments of its own; not taking that away. 1 big difference is that Marine Raiders only recruit marines that have been in service for several years, in contrast to Navy SEALs, that takes civies directly off the street.
@BlossomField918 ай бұрын
I don't get why the USMC doesn't offer Raider enlistment contracts. The direct civilian pipelines for the Navy SEALs and the Army's 18X and Option 40 programs are very successful and a recruiting win-win. The guy makes it through selection and joins the Raiders? Congratulations, you've recruited a stud who may have never otherwise enlisted in the Marine Corps. He fails? Oh well, he can be sent where the service has difficulty with recruiting/retention.
@RETOKSQUIDАй бұрын
Scuttlebutt the last few weeks is that the USMC Raiders days are numberd once again, current leadership in the USMC wants them reabsorbed into the regular Corps.🤬
@PolitiCasts11 ай бұрын
Dear infographics show, PLEASE release the next installment of I survived 100 days of an alien invasion. It's such a great show, but it's been almost a year since you released part 3... Please let us know if you'll be releasing part 4.
@darkjesuit111 ай бұрын
Oh you just had to do this video. Now every veteran is going to come out of the woodwork to give their opinion on this lol
@risitiaina296511 ай бұрын
could you guys do one seabees vs army core of engineers
@rynesromeo111 ай бұрын
love the skyrim reference at 3:30 lol
@NANA-mr6pq5 ай бұрын
Ikr
@TheOrihuela711 ай бұрын
Im a combat marine, both are very skilled spcial teams , the seals are known for there excellence in amphibious assaults. They are used in many different ways.
@mexicanguy42011 ай бұрын
ur def lying bro, "combat marine" is so goofy
@PROLIFIC_TRAVELS11 ай бұрын
Duh
@Tenebris_Sint11 ай бұрын
Neither are Special Forces. Special Forces is specifically 18 series MOS US Army (I was 18A, 18D) SEALs and MARSOC are part of the larger umbrella that is “Special Operations.”
@Uhohohno31911 ай бұрын
They are/were special operations forces.
@Tenebris_Sint11 ай бұрын
@@Uhohohno319 Keep arguing with a Green Beret 🤡🤣
@Jakuboooooooooo11 ай бұрын
@@Tenebris_Sint quit yapping
@theshadowofsiege755911 ай бұрын
@@Jakuboooooooooo^ good one.
@Daniel7386511 ай бұрын
@@Tenebris_Sintfor some reason I’m having a hard time believing that you were a green Beret😂
@Anandroid11 ай бұрын
No spec ops unit is better than one another. It’s all about specialty, mission set, and funding which collectively dictates the type of focused training. There’s a lot of overlap in most of the general training and operators move and try out for other units. For instance, SEALs or Marine Force Recon are like fish in the water and can conduct VBSS operations to perfection - whereas SF is focused on more unconventional tactics and warfare that require more long-term planning and execution. All of them, however have direct action capabilities. There are plenty more examples like thi
@stevenkidd676111 ай бұрын
You're really off base: The 5 Tier 1 Units In The US Military #1. DEVGRU: DEVGRU is also known as SEAL Team 6. They are the US Navy’s elite SMU that specializes in counter-terrorism and hostage rescue. #2. Delta Force: Delta Force is a Combat Applications Group of the US Army. The main mission of the Delta Force is counter-terrorism. #3. 24th Special Tactics Squadron: The US Air Force’s 24th Special Tactics Squadron provides air support and control for the other Tier 1 units. #4. Intelligence Support Activity: The US Army Intelligence Support Activity provides mission essential information for other JSOC units. #5. Army Ranger Regimental Recon Company: A part of the 75th Ranger Regiment Special Troops Battalion provides special reconnaissance to support JSOC missions.
@brianhays179711 ай бұрын
Frogmen in WW2 used to leave signs that said “Hi Marines!” Marsoc’s mission is very similar to Special Forces
@justingammon116310 ай бұрын
MARSOC draws from a pool of riflemen. SEALS draw from a pool of Navy workers.
@BlossomField918 ай бұрын
Not all CSOs are former 03 Marines. Selection is open to all Marines who meet the requirements. There are plenty of ex POGs in the Raiders.
@jonathanbell88878 ай бұрын
“Every marine is a rifleman.”
@CodLegend-ut5vb7 ай бұрын
Wrong
@ssvd917 ай бұрын
The worst SEAL candidate would smoke the average Marine rifleman in PT.
@justingammon11637 ай бұрын
@@ssvd91 But the average marine would smoke the average sailor in pt. Marines draw from a better pool.
@coldsteel942011 ай бұрын
I heard that one of the toughest classes in BUDS is the book writing class lol
@chrisc268311 ай бұрын
Hehehehe
@jhonrojas93115 ай бұрын
What should the books be about?
@vercinpratz807311 ай бұрын
Here in belgium they're called 'paracommando's'
@brucepeckham60434 ай бұрын
MARSOC is more like Army SF in that they take top athletes from their respective pipelines on a 2nd enlistment tour and train them professionally to keep them in for careers. They prefer E-5s and E-6s. Marine Recon/Force Recon are more comparable to Navy SEALS, but still their missions are quite a bit different. As a former Reconassannce Marine, at the end of the day, all of these units have different missions and are the best at what they do - to preserve the USA when call on.
@brycesandy540311 ай бұрын
MARSOC can do everything the seals do and more, there’s a reason there 100 movies made about the seals and 0 made about MARSOC/raiders. (Yes I’m a little bit biased because mahween core) and yes ODA drops more than ODB but still the marines have always completed their mission
@lordsozehcp536213 күн бұрын
@@brycesandy5403 that's not at all why there's no movie about the Raiders lol that doesn't mean anything. SEALS are the popular thing that gets more people interested. That's all Hollywood cares about
@lordsozehcp536213 күн бұрын
@@brycesandy5403 also with ur logic, there WOULD be more movies about the Raiders if they were so much more capable, right? You'd be able to make a more interesting movie with the unit that can do more right? So ur point fails to make sense
@lordsozehcp536213 күн бұрын
@@brycesandy5403 no
@abc-ey4ld6 ай бұрын
technically, usmc bootcamp is the hardest in the world, and he who masters the basics the best is the best soldier
@dylanbester101311 ай бұрын
Your such a great youtuber
@hEXordo11 ай бұрын
Oh great here comes all the arm chair commandos
@aaronaxel476011 ай бұрын
A point of clarification for everyone concerned about the term Special Forces being used in this video. U.S. Army Special Forces, a.k.a The Green Berets, are the only Special Forces in the U.S. military. All other branches Special Operations teams are called just that, Special Operations. Special Operations is the umbrella term that ALL the organizations that are in SOCOM fall under. U.S. Army Special Forces is a specific title for a specific organization, not an umbrella term.
@M4A1_DELTA611 ай бұрын
I 100 agree with what said, but its funny not big difference in words, SF(Special Forces) aka green berets, 75 RN BN, I dont associate SF with Delta Force because there SMUs[Special Mission Unit ]Tier 1 SOF[Special Operation Force] usually NSW, EOD,SWCC,SARC,SEALS, MARSOC,TACP, PJ, DEVGRU Would be SMU As in Tier 1, FORCE RECON Wouldn't be Considered SOF, but as SOC [Special Operations Capable] literally are SOF but dont get the title they help the normal Conventional Marines. so either you Conventional, SOC, SF,/SOF, SMU
@M4A1_DELTA611 ай бұрын
RANGERS 75 Are SF , 75 Rangers RRC SMUs
@drmanhattan521911 ай бұрын
@@M4A1_DELTA6 Rangers are not SF. Rangers are SOF. Only Green Berets are SF.
@heavensfugitive644711 ай бұрын
SEAL Teams are made up of Sailors. Raiders are made up of Marines. There is a difference. SFMF!
@djangomarine665811 ай бұрын
Yut.
@BattleGn0me11 ай бұрын
I was an 8541. Snipers are considered part of the conventional battle order organic to conventional operations. Not special forces. We were recruited from and trained in the fleet division in which we arrived from ITS. Raiders are a repraisal of a WW2 concept from which Amphib recon was developed. They are the first Marine component to ever be considered "Special Forces", or anything like it. We also have Marine security forces (FAST) anti terror started in the 80's, but I haven't heard much about that.
@BattleGn0me8 ай бұрын
@binladen-xp4obMore specifically I've heard SOC as far back as the 80's referring to specific Marine and Navy specialized assets. To my knowledge there are no Marine 'Special Warfare'. Marine Recon and snipers are fleet assets. Recon belong to recon units but snipers with the MOS(was 8541 but now it's still 03 series) designation change are organic to conventional rifle Bn's. I don't know if recon 'snipers', Force or company, have their MOS changed.
@CaleNaidoo114 ай бұрын
I don't think the Marines raiders were dismantled ,I believe they existed the whole time but the government kept it a secret.
@sammysam261511 ай бұрын
Neither one is special forces. Special Forces part of the Army. Both MARSOC and SEALs are highly capable teams that can and will make you wish you didn't do what you did. Yet both have similar capabilities but for different purposes. The whole which team wins is absolute nonsense
@robertsmith468111 ай бұрын
GB, SEALs and MARSOC all fall under the common umbrella of of US-SOCOM and therefore in modern parlance are considered "Special Forces" but I do know what you're referring to.
@ezurg0111 ай бұрын
Ok universal soldier
@badmanskill111211 ай бұрын
Calm down Sammy. Don't send the Gravy Seals after us.
@peter-radiantpipes280011 ай бұрын
1:17 “knock the semantics off” - that said, comparing them is old and done a million times but it gets views so they’ll make 1000 more. I’m waiting for the next Air Force one or Beast video among a million more they do every week over and over and over.
@AlexRising_11 ай бұрын
MARSOC is MARine forces Special Operations Command. MARSOC is special forces, just like Green Berets and SEALs. It’s a catch-all term. This video is all in good fun, like Marines saying Army means “Ain’t Real Men Yet” and the Army replying that Marine means “Muscles Are Requires, Intelligence Not Essential”. We all pick on each other. It’s not that deep and I promise you’ll live.❤
@pjmotorsports72811 ай бұрын
If a unit isn't named Raynors Raiders I'll be very disappointed
@okGomez11 ай бұрын
“In the rear with the gear”
@HAMMERTIMEBB11 ай бұрын
If only marines got power armor and space force billets too
@fakereality9611 ай бұрын
Who wins between Marines vs. Navy SEALS? The US Army, Air Force, Coast Guard, and Space Force.
@ricb1233 ай бұрын
Space Force .. we have light speed, light sabres and time travel....
@mr.sandman7deuce11 ай бұрын
The Marine Raider arguably the first Special Forces of the United States.
@Soldierx2311 ай бұрын
Absolutely not. The minutemen were indeed the first and precursor of special ops
@egret165711 ай бұрын
@@Soldierx23 Marine Raiders have never been nor ever will be Special Forces. Special Forces is a US Army operational unit. Marine Raiders are Marines.
@zachariah8511 ай бұрын
Nah. SF is only one unit, but as far as being one the of first SOF units, I’d disagree. That’d have to go to the Rangers. They draw their lineage back to the French and Indian Wars.
@Tyrannosaurus_STFU_III11 ай бұрын
Wrong, they are the first stood up "special forces" unit in the U.S. military. They only were active a few years, but they came first @@egret1657
@dttmtae11 ай бұрын
learn your history dude
@StateofKait11 ай бұрын
Neither of those are Special Forces, that's a pretty huge mistake. I'm surprised you haven't changed your title yet.
@tysonmckinster386811 ай бұрын
Yoooo, what about 1/9 and Raiders in Vietnam. you're missing a lot here.
@GlobalGems6611 ай бұрын
Peace Always Wins ❤
@FaciolaBoni11 ай бұрын
❤
@toccareilmondo461011 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤
@joshbise814111 ай бұрын
Tell that to russia
@Radio_Active_Sapien11 ай бұрын
yeah but not always 🙂👍🏻
@KillMonger59211 ай бұрын
Not really..
@brianhays179711 ай бұрын
You should do one on the ISA or the “activity”.
@GeorgeTyrrell-qm2ep11 ай бұрын
I want to see lightning commandos vs navy seals
@philliesblunt2479 ай бұрын
None of these units are as destructive as politicians.
@mr6johnclark11 ай бұрын
Wait didnt this kind of happen in "The Rock"
@__CameronLawrence8 ай бұрын
Doesn’t matter who has the harder job, they’re both heroes
@illusion-x851811 ай бұрын
You are from usa,you can see sun. Now in india time is night 1:46😂😂😂😂
@Charles-z1l2 ай бұрын
The big difference between Navy seals and the old marine force recon. Is the lack of rigidity among the seals. Marines are a little more structured and a little more in your face. But navy seals have also suffered because of their publicity. They’d be much better off if they kept a lower profile.
@ganktuh3 ай бұрын
marine raiders sound way harder than seals
@TopperPenquin11 ай бұрын
A bullet does not discriminate, and it only takes one.
@REB444410 ай бұрын
Which is better? How many disastrous missions has each been known for? Yeah, that should tell you right there.
@dliu11511 ай бұрын
As a marine, id say SEALS.
@TheCerebralDude11 ай бұрын
Give the Raiders time. They are still relatively brand new
@BMG_B00F11 ай бұрын
I would say the question is who is more versatile which I’d definitely seals but raiders are equally as lethal when you guys are face to face
@thechrisandphaedrusshow11 ай бұрын
How do you beat a SEAL? Put a podcast in front of them!
@zpetnabkackghost11 ай бұрын
Que paso con la version de espeñol
@rolandteters316611 ай бұрын
How come you didn't mention Force Marine Corp
@erozion821111 ай бұрын
Firstly, they not a part of the comparison this video is discussing. Secondly, Force Recon are not part of US-SOCOM like SEALs and Raiders are. Force Recon only operates as a recon unit specifically for Marine Corps missions.
@slamdancer172011 ай бұрын
where is the nearest Meu
@ianp198611 ай бұрын
“In the opening days of the war, the US found itself on the back foot in the Pacific” You mean halfway through the war?
@nuguns9211 ай бұрын
I think they meant at the beginning of the war for the US.
@crazestyle836 ай бұрын
Give me raiders on land and seals at sea. Apples and oranges. But mad respect, though even as much as i like to tease marines, they're legit.
@Chisszaru11 ай бұрын
Special forces are still soldiers, and they do fight wars, even if that's with special assignments. I wouldn't want to become a special forces soldier, i wouldn't want to become a soldier at all. I'm not saying i'm a pacifist, but i'm not a fighter either. I know how to fight, so don't get me wrong, and i'm not good with words, so i wouldn't be a good diplomat, i'm simply the dude who thinks with his brain, and sometimes i do act out, but that's not my fault, as someone often made me act out. Not that it matters. If i have to fight, then i'll fight
@brianorndorff360611 ай бұрын
Different tools different jobs
@princeofpokemon293411 ай бұрын
So are all Marines elite soldiers? I always assumed they were just another branch of the US military.
@davidbriggs608611 ай бұрын
If you ask the Marines they will tell you that they don't need elite units, they are all an elite unit. But perhaps some are more elite than others.
@badmanskill111211 ай бұрын
The best of the best, and ones they know will keep quiet, get siphoned off for black budget stuff. That's all I'll say.
@kmartins560411 ай бұрын
No, they are specifically speaking about the marine special operations command “raiders” who are not a part of conventional USMC structure. They fall under socom with specialized training and equipment your typical marine either infantry or non combat arms can only dream of
@Rasdawg91511 ай бұрын
No, Marines are a basic US branch. Now I would put a basically trained Marine above most basically trained Sailors, Soldiers, or Airman. However they are NOT in any way comparable to SF or SOCOM.
@oaktaylor740011 ай бұрын
Marines aren't soldiers their Marines
@jakewilson9108 ай бұрын
They both can be good at fighting for our country!!!
@matthewsecord764111 ай бұрын
Tell me how we used to have such things like good medicare, a diverse millitary that was deeply feared (not a shot of our service people at all), and we can't manage our coastlines? The cost of gas should ensure our roads are pristine, and yet the infrastructure money goes somewhere else. We have legal gambling across the nation and that tax money dissappears in ways that don't make sense. Time for Canada to live up to our reputation as firece and absolutely deadly warriors again. We have gotten soft in reliance of our southern brothers, and shamefuly assume that if something bad were to happen twice, we will be okay.
@GK-_4 ай бұрын
Who's the badasses above all... That is Delta enough said boom drop mic!!!
@Duececoupe11 ай бұрын
Can't beat the SAS or SBS! 😉😎✊🏻
@UnstableYT-u7k11 ай бұрын
Can’t beat the South Korean military
@brycedarnell739511 ай бұрын
The thermonuclear warhead in question
@davidbriggs608611 ай бұрын
Our Army SF Delta Force was fashioned on the model of the British SAS, and even the SAS has a high opinion of Delta.
@azules978011 ай бұрын
@@davidbriggs6086EVERYONE has a high opinion of Delta.
@CaliPlays565111 ай бұрын
Oh yeah... thats why the SAS and SBS are used a lot in these videos, right?... oh wait... they're not because US Special Forces set the standard... "Were at our best when we operate in the style of Delta."
@GTfromAG11 ай бұрын
100 vs 100... I'm going with S.E.A.L.
@Revan-df7qh11 ай бұрын
Nice Skyrim reference
@raeltarantino11 ай бұрын
Lieutenant Colonel "Red Mike" Edson was White, and so was Evans Fordyce Carlson.
@GeorgeTyrrell-qm2ep11 ай бұрын
also when is 400 day alien invasion tell me infographic show
@TheOrihuela711 ай бұрын
Whos heard of the German GS9?
@gta8awsomeness8 ай бұрын
Not the skyrim reference 😂
@auro198611 ай бұрын
vital question is which department has more pay with less work or you can say training because that's what they are paid for most of times
@VGHCX11 ай бұрын
Marine raiders win every time. Because they don't breath air, sleep, or need to eat. They are super humans. Conventional forces are not even needed because the special ops units are so amazing........lol
@NobodyKnows-m2f9 ай бұрын
You guys might cover the difference(s) that have developed over the Marine Corps Force Recon, Fleet Recon, and Raiders.
@dirtypms11 ай бұрын
I thought modern Marine Raiders were MARSOC?
@Nuhuh13011 ай бұрын
None are as good as the 75th Ranger Regiment and Delta Force.
@REDRex40811 ай бұрын
** Somalians would Laugh at this comment. Order was in place when the Marines were present in Somalia *🎤 drop
@deathfire0963 ай бұрын
Pat Tillman doesn't agree.
@PorkChopSammie11 ай бұрын
Know the difference between SF and SOF.
@Voxstukas11 ай бұрын
Seals are Vietnam demolition experts. Demolition teams.
@yutyeetskeetmcgeet303911 ай бұрын
Recon marines are better, question answered.
@HerrKurt11 ай бұрын
It's Navy Seals
@aquaticlives294811 ай бұрын
Now talk about all the defeats.
@kirdythebulldog11 ай бұрын
Great channel! Except sooooo many commercials! 2 within the first 5 minutes. I understand that advertisements are necessary to make money but it’s so excessive… maybe I just like the stories to much!
@Insideoutie11 ай бұрын
Who could win a fight between a crocodile and a shark?
@kirkvj833011 ай бұрын
If same weight..Whoever landed the first strike is the winner imo
@Deltathegoldenretriever11 ай бұрын
Just like the teams crocodile in its territory and shark in its territory
@Insideoutie11 ай бұрын
Good point! If it was called on the beach the croc has the advantage until it drags the shark into the water to try to drown it. But in deep water croc is gonna need to surface to breath. Yeah thanks lots to think about.@@Deltathegoldenretriever
@Scawn8811 ай бұрын
Royal Marines and Gurkhas beat anything and anyone.
@nickpatterson49210 ай бұрын
Nice to know i always wondered the difference
@danielhouser884511 ай бұрын
Did you already make videos on this or is this like an updated version please don't start putting out the same old things The Infographic Show 💯 Thank you 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
@goofyoperatorr11 ай бұрын
oorah marines
@wongjefx98011 ай бұрын
...who are Marine Recon then? not the Marine Raiders?
@djangomarine665811 ай бұрын
Recon and force recon are "spec ops" within the Marine Corps. The Raiders work for SOCOM.
@FusionRoleplayX11 ай бұрын
Army Rangers.. they are the ones they send to rescue seals when needed.
@muyobarobinson493511 ай бұрын
When they formed Marine Raiders they have to pull from the Green berets thats why Marine Raiders mission is almost if not same as for green berets apart from them doing Marine time operations and green berets are more focused in Guerrilla tactics or are masters of unconventional war fair
@Epic-so3ek11 ай бұрын
🦭 *seal noises*
@deathfire0963 ай бұрын
OBL says otherwise. .LOL
@Doomslayer3202011 ай бұрын
the usa could still have kept the raiders afrer ww2 if the need for them arose again
@JeffJeff-fw1fo11 ай бұрын
Marines ain't special forces much less spec ops they regular joe branch 😂😂😂 Navy seals on the other hand are special ops and so is marine marsoc raiders but they aint special forces only the army has special forces
@nickverburg82558 ай бұрын
They’re talking about Marine Raiders. Who are spec ops. As are Marine Force recon.
@RobouteGuilliman-M4111 ай бұрын
The Marine mentality is just purely ego driven. No, not all Marines are anything special, and their only 'elite' status came from being an amphibious assault trained group (though the Army did it first, and better). Marines are not on par with SeALs, Rangers, Special Forces, etc. Marine Raiders are vastly superior to rank and file Marines; same for Recon and Force Recon. Marine leadership just has a hard time facing reality, that's why the idiots almost missed out on joining groups like USSOCOM, and almost didn't create MARSOC.
@Jawbeezie11 ай бұрын
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
@azules978011 ай бұрын
@@Jawbeezie At least part of what he is saying is correct. The Marines believe every Marine is elite and special. They are not but the Marines do have a very high espirit de corps and they are very proud of their service as they should be. The big Marine corps didn't want any Marine to be considered special and they didn't want any Marine to be controlled by someone else other than themselves. They used to have recon Marines and Force reconnaissance Marines both of which were special operations capable but not special operations forces. They did roughly the same stuff but for different structures within the Marine corps. MARSOC had to be created and given new capabilities and skills and they are a part of SOCOM and JSOC. One of the reasons the Marines did it was for funding etc. Fun fact: US Army Special Forces helped them stand up and qualify the new unit and their pipeline is modeled after the SF pipeline. Oh, and there is only one Special Forces and that is the US Army Special Forces AKA Green Berets. Everyone else is SOF, special operations forces or SOC, special operations capable.
@RobouteGuilliman-M4111 ай бұрын
@@Jawbeezie OK, sure.
@jakenopes180311 ай бұрын
Hello
@stevenkidd676111 ай бұрын
ffs: Stop the opinions and misinformation already The 5 Tier 1 Units In The US Military #1. DEVGRU: DEVGRU is also known as SEAL Team 6. They are the US Navy’s elite SMU that specializes in counter-terrorism and hostage rescue. #2. Delta Force: Delta Force is a Combat Applications Group of the US Army. The main mission of the Delta Force is counter-terrorism. #3. 24th Special Tactics Squadron: The US Air Force’s 24th Special Tactics Squadron provides air support and control for the other Tier 1 units. #4. Intelligence Support Activity: The US Army Intelligence Support Activity provides mission essential information for other JSOC units. #5. Army Ranger Regimental Recon Company: A part of the 75th Ranger Regiment Special Troops Battalion provides special reconnaissance to support JSOC missions. Tier 2 Tier 2 units are made up of elite special operators that possess a higher level of skills, expertise, training, and experience than conventional service members in the U.S. military. However, Tier 2 special operations forces are not considered to have the prestige and skill of Tier 1 units. Here are just some examples of Tier 2 military units: Navy SEALs Marine Raiders Marine Force Recon Combat Controllers (Air Force) Rangers (Army) Special Forces (Army) Asymmetric Warfare Group (Army)
@REDRex40811 ай бұрын
Ok Blue Falcon😂😂😂😂😂
@IngeTanis11 ай бұрын
Onmenselijke tactics, die als ze niet te bewijzen zijn, een on strafbaar feit worden, fool me once, fool me twice
@dieseluk2k11 ай бұрын
Marine raiders Vs Navy seals, who wins? The Royal Marines obviously
@REDRex40811 ай бұрын
Oh look! It's Argentina!😂😂😂😂
@shangrilaladeda11 ай бұрын
The Green Berets are the best in the USA armed forces
@DonnieDin11 ай бұрын
Ranger bat smokes them
@drmanhattan521911 ай бұрын
@@DonnieDinis that why guys from ranger batt try to become green berets but you never see a green beret try to go to ranger batt? 🤡
@derekm42411 ай бұрын
Your absolutely right. My father was a Green Beret, also an intelligence officer all throughout the Vietnam war.... I've never met a seal and I've met many, whose struck fear into my soul quite like my father lol. That being said, regardless of how many people he killed, he was an amazing person.... The ptsd was horrible on him though. He couldnt even watch the movies full metal jacket or platoon... I hope he found the peace in death which eluded him in life.
@stevenkidd676111 ай бұрын
🧢🧢🧢
@trumpone444311 ай бұрын
Neither because both can't finish a job or save themselves until the Rangers do it. Check my math.
@91ATLbraves11 ай бұрын
“The Deep” has entered the chat
@davidsmith191311 ай бұрын
Rangers lead the way
@deathfire0963 ай бұрын
they are not even 2nd best in the Army
@lanaesworld697611 ай бұрын
Husband is a marine raider scout swimmer instructor
@REDRex40811 ай бұрын
TMI
@haroldz12311 ай бұрын
Which team was beaten by Dictator Idi Amin?
@egret165711 ай бұрын
Special Forces = Army; Marine Raiders = USMC; SEALS = Navy
@whyswon11 ай бұрын
Think of it this way: both units are Tier 1 and are highly capable. SEALs are just able to operate in marine environments whereas other SF groups cannot.
@chrisc268311 ай бұрын
The Marines do not have any Tier 1 units. Navy Seals fall under two categories. Regular "vanilla" Seals are also Tier 2. The Seals that are part of Team Six are Tier 1. The only other Tier 1 Unit in the US Military belongs to the Army and that is Delta boys.
@stevenkidd676111 ай бұрын
The 5 Tier 1 Units In The US Military #1. DEVGRU: DEVGRU is also known as SEAL Team 6. They are the US Navy’s elite SMU that specializes in counter-terrorism and hostage rescue. #2. Delta Force: Delta Force is a Combat Applications Group of the US Army. The main mission of the Delta Force is counter-terrorism. #3. 24th Special Tactics Squadron: The US Air Force’s 24th Special Tactics Squadron provides air support and control for the other Tier 1 units. #4. Intelligence Support Activity: The US Army Intelligence Support Activity provides mission essential information for other JSOC units. #5. Army Ranger Regimental Recon Company: A part of the 75th Ranger Regiment Special Troops Battalion provides special reconnaissance to support JSOC missions.
@stevenkidd676111 ай бұрын
Not sure if you know exactly what the SEALS do and where they operate. But, yes they do get down in the aquatic environment.
@chrisc268311 ай бұрын
@@stevenkidd6761 so I stand corrected. You are right. The US has more than 2 Tier 1 SMUs. Thank you for taking the time to explain this.
@stevenkidd676111 ай бұрын
@chrisc2683 Glad to help🙂
@madmaxc34311 ай бұрын
LOL, honestly this is horseshit. Not to take anything away from the SEALs, but the idea that they are the most elite of American special operations units is huge fallacy and misconception perpetuated by popular culture nonsense and the Navy PR machine. The level of eliteness that the public ascribes to Navy SEALs in general really only applies to their Tier-1 team, Naval Special Warfare Development Group (aka, SEAL team Six). In fact, the unfortunate truth is that in the earlier yrs of the 'Global War on Terror' Navy SEALs were responsible for way beyond their fair share of catastrophic mission failures. SEALs have a very specific skillset and were utilized in roles that did not really suit their expertise. So they were forced to learn a lot of lessons the hard way. SEALs are recruited from the Navy. They lack the foundation of infantry and larger ground warfare doctrine that special units from the Army and Marine Corps have. To what I can tell, Marine Raiders seem to have a much more diverse and adaptable range of skills than your basic SEAL team. And we have to remember that the Raiders were largely formed from the Marine Recon/Force Recon community, who are trained to do pretty much everything that main line "white side" SEAL teams are trained to do. Arguably, they're probably more capable than a lot of SEAL teams because their rank and file consist largely of older, more mature guys who bring experience and knowledge from the Marine infantry or other combat specialties. Whereas the main line SEAL teams take Navy recruits and sailors who mostly have zero prior background in any kind of warfighting, put them thru the grinder of BUDS etc, and make them SEALs. The idea that whenever any kind of disaster happens overseas, the president simply asks for 'the nearest SEAL team' is laughably and comically untrue. I am neither Marine nor Navy, so it's not that I have any favorites to play on this topic. I'm just speaking facts. Or at least speaking much more accurately than this video did.
@dallasyap306411 ай бұрын
You're spot on about that. The original Marine Raiders came mostly from Force Recons, who already have quite some time under their belt in the fleet. Even since Raiders were established, they only take someone who has been in the fleet for some years, in contrast to Navy SEALs taking people directly off the street and putting them through harsh BUDS and claiming a high dropout rate.
@20alphabet11 ай бұрын
Infographics doesn't know what they're talking about.