Mario Bootlegs for the Genesis - But does it work on Real Hardware?

[@Ecusu]

You know it's running on actual hardware when those Mega Drive jailbars are showing.

[@GlitchTheG4mer]

At so you mean?

[@GlitchTheG4mer]

What do you mean?

[@redhotsonic]

Don't look up Genesis Jail Bars. Once you notice them, you'll never unnotice them.

[@RWL2012]

​​@@GlitchTheG4merthe RGB video output of some Mega Drive / Genesis consoles has vertical "stripes", mostly in the blue / blue-ish colours, which I believe are caused by interference from the composite video output. These are known as "jailbars".

[@RWL2012]

​@@redhotsonic😂

[@FWMG]

8:44 Okie doki, off to hell I go! - Mayro , 2024

[@HogeezHoagies]

I think I did a good job with that voice clip lol

[@dawierdkid]

Wait what​@@HogeezHoagies

[@HogeezHoagies]

@@dawierdkid It was-a me! I'mma Mario!

[@FWMG]

@@HogeezHoagies He's right!

[@Iron8127]

Quickest way to world 8 if you think about it.

[@Garrulous64]

Super Mario 64 looks pretty different than I remember

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

Ok

[@SHADOWTH3H3DG3H0G3]

Hey, Gary!

[@the2323guy]

Perhaps "Around the World" was expected to be played on a certain bootleg of a Mega Drive that behaved in different ways that the game accounted for, instead of a genuine one? Just a guess.

[@Bro-cx2jc]

Or maybe it was only intended to ever be run on emulators and through those cheap SOAC consoles

[@zacharypierce2970]

BMB, the Russian developer, likely only assumed people wpuld be playing it on Russian Sega clones. A few later Chinese Famicom bootlegs have issues running on authentic hardware vs. clones.

[@ExtremeWreck]

Yup, it's a Russian Genesis clone thing here. Same for BMB's other games.

[@GreatFox42]

That would make a lot of sense actually.

[@Bro-cx2jc]

@@zacharypierce2970 That's pretty freaking surreal 🤣 usually it's the other way around lmao So those cheap clones are almost like "original hardware" to some extent, in their own right, as they have their own original compatible games.

[@redstreak9430]

6:40 I see Peach is having the same problem properly identifying Sonic that Amy used to have.

[@deltawooloo]

It looks like Mario 3 Around the World failed to go around the world with different regional consoles. This is an excellent and well-documented video, as well. Bonus points for including Super Mario Galaxy's soundtrack.

[@Gaia_BentosZX5]

It's even funnier when the absolute madlads at the sonic romhacking community were able to do what these bootleggers couldn't: make Super Mario run on Genesis hardware. The anti-piracy features were simply far too effective and thwarted every attempt each bootlegger made.

[@deltawooloo]

@@Gaia_BentosZX5 The Sonic ROM hacking community is not the community that ports Mario to hardware. Unless you mean a community where homebrewers or bootleggers put the character on the Genesis, then it makes sense.

[@TheOneGoofAli]

"Roped in for free"... I'd put it as "freely involved", hah. It was common to "reuse" "engines" between bootlegs from what I could tell as I have encountered these specific ones during the 2000s, even if I originally had a Dendy at the time which was an NES clone. Didn't stop me from looking at other games on other systems via emulators, though, found those and was... puzzled to say the least. Oh, and whilst this isn't mentioned in the video, "Around the World" one has an in-game shop for powerups if you pause and hit "C".

[@Imfernolistico]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYuokn2KYtGqa8U Seems like it's also common for these kinds of bootlegs to have terrifying game over screens. Dunno who could make this up...

[@redhotsonic]

Around the World did NOT have a shop. It's Mario 4 Space Odyseey that did, although I ran out of time to include it in the video as it didn't affect the ratings :) And again, thanks for the translations!

[@TheOneGoofAli]

Not even I am free from misremembering stuff, considering the testing was done a while ago. And it's a pleasure working with you. 🧡

[@drsumo3113]

@@Imfernolistico Uncle Jobel referenced, gobless🙏

[@ADudeWithAChannel]

Everytime RHS uploads, I get a warm fuzzy feeling inside. I should probably get that checked out.

[@redhotsonic]

You need Dr. Mario.

[@jmokiedm]

Let me point some things out: 1. Please DO NOT call these homebrews. Homebrews are original games (most of the time, sometimes they're fan games) made by either one guy or a team usually sold first-hand. Bootlegs, on the other hand, are games made by companies using copyrighted franchises to make a quick buck and are usually sold using third-parties. 2. The first game you tested wasn't a bootleg, but rather a 2010 homebrew. 3. I think the problem with Mario 3 & 4 were they were made and tested on clone Russian "Dendy" hardware (which used very different and more exploitable hardware than the real deal) and therefore why they don't work as well on official consoles. Other than that, great video!

[@redhotsonic]

So, after some research, all of these games are bootlegs. Except the very first showcase as you said is a homebrew. I did say in the video "some are ports/homebrews" which I was referring to SMB1 on the Genesis. Then according to this site below, the homebrew was pirated and then sold on. So, yes, you're correct, SMB1 itself isn't technically a bootleg, but it was pirated and sold on. Maybe "bootleg" was the wrong thing to say, but meh, it's done now :) bootleggames.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros._(Sega_Mega_Drive)

[@polocatfan]

all bootlegs are technically homebrew my man. EDIT: nevermind, thought you were complaining about him calling bootlegs homebrew, not the other way around.

[@frog9304]

No, you knew damn well what you were doing, clickbaiter. ​@@redhotsonic

[@frog9304]

​@@redhotsonicAlso, don't make videos on things you have no knowledge of. Makes you look like a right twat.

[@S0meb0dy728]

@@frog9304wow you're so cool for that. harassing people in comments for no reason because you have a sad life and nothing better to do 👏👏 give this man an award.

[@flashthemonkey6032]

THE OLD INTRO IS BACK! YESSSSS!

[@SonicTheFantastic]

We're not going for a big trip "Around the World" with this one. I can only imagine what it would be like to play these on an Atgames Genesis...

[@FWMG]

It would be renamed to the "End of the World"!

[@Bro-cx2jc]

Around the world, and you can't play it on almost any Mega Drive from any part of the world Also, I'm playing an Atgames Portable on my TV right now XD

[@ExtremeWreck]

I'm gonna imagine that the music would be so garbled that you couldn't even make it out.

[@dalcomaroni9837]

@@FWMG jojo reference?

[@FWMG]

@@dalcomaroni9837 no!

[@Imfernolistico]

0:46 I'll politely decline, but what I won't is the amazing quality of this video. Bang-up job, mate, absolutely love the little details that I noticed alongside the brilliant editing.

[@AbnormalAbnorman]

2:05 "Good riddance!" Totally agree, Mario. Gosh, I hate those guys.

[@blueyoshi25]

I also agree.

[@gabrielstar777]

15:53 I need a 10-hour extended of this

[@DryPaperHammerBro]

Gimme like an hour, and you'll get it

[@jaredjoe133]

@@DryPaperHammerBrolies

[@DryPaperHammerBro]

@@jaredjoe133It's been a while since I edited shit

[@jaredjoe133]

@@DryPaperHammerBro it’s you who said one hour not me

[@Nbrother1234]

6:39 _THANK YOU _*_SONIC_* _THE KINGDOM IS SAVED_ _NOW TRY AGAIN_

Theory: Is Mario SONIC?!?

[@kaosoyuncular3954]

NO sonic is too good to be mario

[@Nbrother1234]

Maybe "Super Mario Bros. 2" is a sprite hack of "Sonic Jam 6" and they forgot to change the text

[@kaosoyuncular3954]

@@Nbrother1234 could be

[@HonorJanas]

New Rating System: Yes - Game works with little to no issues Partially - Game works with a few problems that are by passable No - Game barely or doesn’t work at all Potentially - Not enough of the game was finished for any of the above to be verified

[@redhotsonic]

Pretty much! I'll admit I've changed the criteria a tad as the series has evolved but you've pretty much nailed them on the head.

[@Imfernolistico]

Poor "Undetermined" got shafted lul

[@redhotsonic]

@@Imfernolistico It still exists 😛

[@Da_Bud]

I think it would be better to make the yes text green and then potentially text is yellow and it would say maybe and partially would have a split from green to red

[@lore-g5h]

Rip "Well..." rating You were one of the coolest

[@GroupNebula563]

So, I’ve got a theory. When the NES/FC was first cloned, it was not a perfect clone and had some quirks. Because of the fact that most bootleg games developed for the hardware were created specifically to run under these limitations and hardware quirks, many behave differently or even break when played on official systems. Future clones were made with these games in mind and purposefully kept these issues, even modern NES-on-a-chip systems have them. My guess is Mario 3: Around the World is much of a similar case. It was developed in China but made to be sold in Russia, hence the game being in Russian. Chances are, it was tested and developed on a Genesis clone. And clone manufacturers needed to base it off something, so what did they do? Buy a random Genesis they found, not knowing it was a specific revision. The clone manufacturers imported a specific Genesis and cloned that, accidentally making it so the sound doesn’t work entirely the same. Then, the game was developed on that unit and never tested on official hardware until the last minute, which would explain why the issues all seem to be linked to playing sound (block breaking sfx, pipe sfx, death sound, music, etc.) When they did test it, they found it didn’t work on specific models, and quickly implemented a fix. (Though they likely didn’t test that fully either and so yet more problems resulted)

[@agent_joseph_cat]

4:54 never seen a literal joke done so well I’m dying

[@Xenon_XTH]

1:59 "toad" "daisy" "croc" and "dr. Wily" are my favorite lines that you've made

[@landygarcia920]

Dr wlay

[@trulyinfamous]

As a long time Vinesauce and Varhskelethor fan, awful bootlegs like this are familiar to me. I'm surprised any of these worked at all.

[@Oysterblade84]

In my personal opinion i'd say that they're all broken except for the first one the NES original, at least when that one doesn't show the full graphics you can just reload the game and the graphics come back. This was a great video. Glad to have you back again RHS.

[@redhotsonic]

I nearly agree. With all the EverDrives, this is the case. But as explained, if you put the ROM only on a cart (no EverDrive menus), the level graphics are shifted. And no amount of rebooting/reloading will fix it. Unless you have a TMSS consoles. It's a bizarre one for sure 🤔

[@imdaglitchygamer]

"RedHotSonic?" More Like "BlueColdMario"

[@bluecoldsonic]

WHERE THE FUCK IS THIS TWAT-

[@SuperSonic4KOfficial]

1:58 bro really called toad a Goomba 💀

[@tiberiusthehedgehog92]

“It’s-A-Me! Mario On The Genesis!” Also Haven’t Seen U In A While, Redhotsonic! ❤🎉

[@tiberiusthehedgehog92]

Also redhotsonic, I very much loved your channel when I was younger, and i’ll come back to your discord server in september

[@FWMG]

We suffered from the last time you played Sonic Bootlegs. Now time for us to suffer again!

[@lillianjazed]

Gotta love how this was posted on Mar10

[@sonicagain_official]

RHS, my man! This video is sow awesome!

[@javianwilliams7463]

4:42 (Record scratch) “Time for good old Google Translate.”

[@Gloryzuki]

_"Vehicle auxiliary memory access failed."_

[@ItzMeSon1c]

⁠’plugs into car’ no still doesn’t work

[@GeneralHewett13]

It’s almost as if SEGA wanted to beat Nintendo so much they stopped Mario games from running properly on the Genesis / MegaDrive

[@stuff31]

I've been missing the BDIWORH in my life these past few months, glad to be blessed with another! hope you're doing great. :D

[@craftyawesome6830]

16:06 "The gameplay engine should feel comfortable for the average Mario player out there." No. This game does not control well.

[@redhotsonic]

lol, fair enough!

[@_kodgos_]

15:33 rhs learned russian just for this episode 👍

[@VideoGameJNPoop]

14:47 - Space Odyssey, definitely unrelated to the games Super Mario Galaxy (2007), Super Mario Odyssey (2017) and even the film 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968).

[@CasterOfDreams]

The editing is so good, a big step up, well done mate!

[@linkthehero8431]

6:38 Has Peach been playing too much Mortal Kombat as Johnny Cage? Yeah, that's where my mind went 🤣

[@Gaius_Giscombe]

RHS doesn’t even know that he got Princess Peach, Yoshi, Bowser, and the Hammer Bro’s names. LOL.

[@redhotsonic]

Who are they?

[@xtrapikachu1741]

Bruh

[@Knuxfan24]

If they're not Luigi they don't matter.

[@Nostalgic80s-nd3qb]

Mario should definitely keep off old SEGA consoles, at least for now. Who knows, Nintendo and SEGA could collaborate to have a Mario game on their console, if they do make a new one. Thank you @RedHotSonic for entertaining us over the years.

[@BZProjectMaskSharkHat]

5:46 thats what i call a good quality beat, ending with hitting yourself, Haha

[@BluCoolKnux]

There *ARE* actually physical cartridges of Super Mario World 64, New Super Mario World, and Mario 4: Space Odyssey, and it has been confirmed that all 3 completely work on a Genesis Model 1 (courtesy of SpaceHamster). Meaning, potentially, Mario 3: Around the World and Mario 4: Space Odyssey ALSO have some form of copyright protection?

[@Gloryzuki]

Potentially as AtW and SP, along with the others were played in flashcarts and none of them worked properly as explained, and the dumps that were used to play the game online do not have the lockout unlocked and thus couldn't run for most models (either only through option settings and/or being required to work on specific revision-locked (for most regions) or possibly by a console that may bypass the lockout.)

[@Justsomeguy284]

8:44 thats actually a really good Mario impression!

[@AidGum]

Glad to see more of ColdBlueMario.

[@thesaveofethopia]

Just in time for Mario day !! Amazing video

[@gala493tv]

Genesis Does redhotsonic a job.

[@cristibratu5616]

This Redhotsonic a-a-a-h scream should get a 10-hour version!

[@supremesonicbrazil]

14:58 If you thought that was grim, wait until you see the one with Felix the Cat... let's just say the word "HET" becomes something else in your psyche 😬

[@frog9304]

It's not "HET", you dunce. It says "Niet" in Cyrillic script.

[@jordanl5444]

My favorite example of wild bootlegs still has to be the russian translation of a ps1 bugs bunny game where bugs yells cyka blyat when he gets hit lmfao

[@Gloryzuki]

Do NOT press "No" at the Game Over screen on FtC for the Genesis/Mega Drive. Nuff said.

[@t0biascze644]

5:41 in old games, the game on collision with enemy just checked if your vertical speed is falling, and if its not it kills you

[@CalamityJames.]

Editing is sublime in this video, absolutely love it. Glad I could help out with testing, even if it failed on every single obscure console I own 😂

[@AbnormalAbnorman]

Forget Schrödinger's cat, it's about RedHotSonic's Russian Mario games now. He doesn't know if they want to work or not until he hits the bricks.

[@xtrapikachu1741]

6:18 *Activates Sr Pelo table slamming*

[@JaxCoolKartunes]

Your slowly becoming "bluecoldmario"

[@gamingfan3926]

That makes 5 ratings now. Yes Partially No Undetermined (from the 32X video) Potentially (from this video)

[@PuppyFromTheAlt]

The idea that a bootlegger would implement copy protection on their "game" is ridiculous. I'd be bewildered at their greed if such was true.

[@SoyLuciano]

14:29 Well, technically, it would be partially, since it did work on Model 2 systems after all. But the fact that you chose "NO" makes sense, especially for most systems. 15:32 Ditto.

[@newutopia8]

8:02 For anyone who couldnt see it: Yes, I'm aware this is the Super Famicom cartridge. I don't have the American cartridge. Let me have this. Pretty please with a cherry on top.

[@SonicDoesThingsRebooted]

0:10 Sing with me, sing for the year Sing for the laughter, sing for the tear Sing with me if it's just for today Maybe tomorrow the good lord will take you away

[@ToniaGlitched]

it's weird how I've seen quite a few of these bootlegs being talked about from people here in Brazil, or more specifically, from Kane, from Kane TV, with him even having a cartridge for one of the ROMs... and tbh I wouldn't doubt some of these bootlegs would have some different chipset on their cartridge, that would make them work on the local modified hardwares of the country they were made at, maybe even on some other Mega Drive models

[@FWMG]

15:35 You could hear the crying tone from his voice!

[@AvenueBrawl]

1:55 THATS MY NOTEBOOK!

[@HammMann]

EVERY Retro gaming youtuber will ALWAYS end up encountering *_Mario 3: Around The World_* and *_Mario 4: A Space Odyssey_* at some point....

[@gengar-1997]

Just so everyone who can't read Cyrillic script (I can read it, despite being Polish), Mario 3's subtitle is "Vokrug Svyeta", and Mario 4's subtitle is "Kosmicheskaya Odisseya".

[@GreatFox42]

The absolute irony of bootleg carts having copy protection.

[@malliixx]

I’m so incredibly happy to see you upload again. Missed you loads buddy 👍

[@FinalHopeTrio]

I find it funny how you actually hooked the system up to an ACTUAL vehicle as a joke of taking words literally! But seriously, how do you do that?

[@redhotsonic]

I didn't. The Genesis was plugged in, but the SCART wasn't plugged in at all. The Chinese text I edited onto the screen :)

[@supercamborg4218]

Good pick for the ending music

[@jimbo2revengeance]

It's funny seeing an audio driver option for 16 bit proprietary consoles. The bootleg market really did come with so many bizarre and unique hardware combinations, but coding compatibility for several different audio chips sounds like a nightmare honestly, especially since the difference in samples between the consoles.

[@segymun1720]

You should try Mario's Mystery Meat on the SNES, it's quite an amazing accomplishment for how much stuff is in it for a rom hack made on Super Mario World

[@wadereis3070]

5:47 Mske a full version, this slaps

[@WhatsDown]

Once again another banger video, and I enjoyed all the twists and turns with this one!

[@tomatowave_0]

Copyright protection on a bootleg Mario game? I think I hear the nintendo ninjas screaming already! 😬

[@NotReuben12]

Calling Toad A Goomba Is Wild

[@dandastardly2792]

Thanks for the great video. I really enjoyed this one. Had a lot of drama and soooo many genesis consoles 🙌

[@IGAnimations-gn4eg]

funniest, interesting and most entertaining BDIWORH video so far. we need more of this excellent work RHS

[@nickgamer2693]

1:57 "Mario, Luigi," Goomba, Princess Peach, Yoshi, and Bowser.

[@PreRenderedSheep95]

2:01 ou yes My favorite character from Mario series....Dr.Wawi

[@SuperSonic4KOfficial]

2:07 let’s start off with the game that started all 😊 Donkey Kong and Mario Bros left chat

[@deppo436]

I remember when SpaceHamster covered these bootlegs, though I'm quite surprised you had frequent crashes because he never encountered them in his video. And despite their unfair difficulty spikes, he was able to complete them to the end.

[@Bro-cx2jc]

Imagine completely fake bootleg games having the nerve to include copy protection 🤣 like what are they even trying to do there lmao

[@AlinaAnton-ie4ku]

7:56 Redhotsonic torturing Mario

[@AlinaAnton-ie4ku]

7:26 Should we call Sonic Yours Truly from now on? Just kidding!

[@starrystreams3642]

I love seeing my friends in series I enjoy.

[@MrLucas-vw1zk]

I am the only one that the game "Super Mario Bros" works for me without errors, and that my SEGA console is a Chinese one that imitates the Genesis 3, and an Everdrive-MD 2x v38 cartridge, And the games Mario 3: Around the World & Mario 4: Space Odyssey also work well for me, the only difference is that the music will stop when it makes contact with a block, enters a pipe or when it dies, so I have to disable the sound to listen to these songs without them stopping.

[@Thefloppaguy]

8:57 I guess nintendos not a kids game maker now 😂

[@rmod8]

If i remember from joel's bootleg mario video, mario 3 plays raw audio when you die which might be related to the lockup of the audio system.

[@Idklol18292]

its nice to see this series going again

[@GUNUFofficial]

There is a bootleg felix the cat made by the same guys as 3 and 4 which has a horrifying image where felix has his head skinned, its almost like these russian bootleggers liked traumatizing children.

[@landygarcia920]

I was the unfortunate one who played it

[@AlexanTheMan]

That has got to be the most hilarious epilepsy warning segment in the channel.

[@Arandomspongebobguy]

If you dont know, Super Mario World 64 had a black Pacman looking boss at the end and you have to hit it 10 times to defeat it, and Mario 4 Space Odyssey also had a similar boss, but it only works on emulators

[@SlendytubbiesII]

U mean a chain chomp lol

[@niktokof935]

It's actually pronounced "Mario 3: Vokrug sveta", something like that

[@niktokof935]

Let's goooo, 2 likes after... *five... months..?* Thank you anyway

[@NinjaCacodemon_IsSus]

You forgot the rating: undetermined ( for ur region lock out )

[@ZeroWind2014]

I bet Mario had a heart attack when entering the genesis/mega drive world

[@matthewrobinson1699]

15:54 good thing you got a 1-up.

[@cristibratu5616]

Redhotsonic comes back.

[@Geneo-en5km]

Bro your content is so good and well scripted that it blows my mind you only have 83000 subs! Keep it up been following a long time.

[@RareSun]

I actually really like the SMB1 Genesis music. It gives me a weird nostalgic feeling and i'm not sure why. Also i really appreciate the reverse engineering going on there also

[@thedarkdragon89]

I love these video's, keep up the great work man!

[@darksonic5theochedgehog218]

I honestly hope to see Somari for when you do the Nintendo consoles

[@kitterbug]

I'm glad we immediately thought it was weird that SMB port used the OPN2 for the music and not the SN7

[@Arcad3n]

LETS GOOOOOOO NEW RHS!!!!

[@VAdaPEGA]

Just tried Mario 3 on my European Megadrive Model 1 and I can break blocks but it crashes when falling down a pit or entering a pipe After messing with the sound menu I got the pit death to work correctly but the pipe still gave issues Why is it like this!?

[@mxggo9046]

SMW on GenesisMD blew my mind. Wish it would have played the way it's supposed to.

[@RobertTank-dell]

HES BACKKKKKKKK